2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[njbill]

What I do wish is that the Democratic governor had the balls to prohibit the rally and enforce that prohibition.

Trump is going around the country blithely violating the law with all these rallies.

I hope someone shuts him down, and soon.

How many Herman Cains are you willing to tolerate?

[ToastDunk]

Republican Gov. Baker
https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/sta ... 95584?s=20

I’m convinced now that politicians simply feel that voters are irretrievably dumb.

Does anyone truly believe Trump would not leave office if he lost in a fair election? If you do, you are indeed too dumb to vote. Trump has a transition team which is already deep in the weeds with that scenario, as required by law. They are by all accounts further along at this stage than any previous President.

Trump plays everyone like a fiddle because he can. And media eats it up, regurgitates it, and birdbrains think it’s real. Then politicians play along, getting their voters to think they’re outraged when they most definitely are not.

Jfc. We are screwed as a country. Everything and everyone is so dumb.

But Trump won't find any scenario where he loses the election, "a fair election." So yes, if he loses the election I don't expect to see a smooth transfer of power.

By what accounts specifically is the Trump transition team further along at this stage than any previous President?

Any luck with that 80/20 data on the military's support for Trump?

Took me one second to get an article on the transition team, notwithstanding the obligatory dumb headline. Try reading the whole article before replying.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/2 ... ion-421465

Every politician thinks you’re dumb. And you do nothing to convince them otherwise by thinking Trump won’t leave if he loses. It’s why Baker says something he knows is demonstrably stupid; he’s playing you just like the media played you just like Trump played you.

Elections historically have assumed an acceptable margin of Democratic fraud. We always have. Democrats cheat because they breathe politics and lean on government for support, hence their hysteria around elections.

The problems arise when elections are within that tight band of Democratic fraud. Historically we’ve avoided chaos, but in cases like Norm Coleman of Minnesota, in order to avoid Democratic riots, the Republican generally caves. In a case like Bush v Gore, SCOTUS simply had to put a timeline on things or otherwise we’d still be litigating.

Good to see that Liddell and the transition team “have maintained regular order...” The article makes the point that at least that’s the case for now, no telling if Trump would interfere if his prospects of losing grow. I did miss the part of this transition being further ahead of any previous administration. Only in a Trump administration do we praise standard operating procedure.

[Peter Brown]

What I do wish is that the Democratic governor had the balls to prohibit the rally and enforce that prohibition.

Trump is going around the country blithely violating the law with all these rallies.

I hope someone shuts him down, and soon.

How many Herman Cains are you willing to tolerate?

When are you going to halt Black Lives Matter and Antifa riots?

[njbill]

You mean the ones funded and populated by Trump/Stone operatives and Russia?

You do remember the architect of the Brooks Brothers riot in 2000, right? Maybe you were a participant.

[6ftstick]

What I do wish is that the Democratic governor had the balls to prohibit the rally and enforce that prohibition.

Trump is going around the country blithely violating the law with all these rallies.

I hope someone shuts him down, and soon.

How many Herman Cains are you willing to tolerate?

What law?

[njbill]

The laws prohibiting public gatherings over a certain number in size. Not sure if Virginia has a mask law, but if it does, that was violated as well.

Virginia requested that Trump not hold the rally, or reduce its size to the legal limit. He refused.

Trump has been violating the rules in Pennsylvania with all or most of his rallies.

[MDlaxfan76]

It IS interesting that MDLAXFAN does not seek out new comforts for the soul, when it comes to the arts. This mite help:

Performance of one of you named musicians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQjCQ9IIa0k

He has played multiple times. You can find each episode and the artist. How I learned about Grimes, she appeared on this show. Well before she met Elon, while attending McGill in hip Montreal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_L ... d_episodes

This was the line up that got me hooked all those years ago..

18 June 1993 The Kinks / Belly / The Auteurs / Neneh Cherry / La Polla Records / Aimee Mann / Maldita Vecindad Y Los Hijos Del Quinto Patio

all one show. Enjoy watching fear porn all nite

As I said, you clearly are more knowledgeable (and interested in) music (and controlled substances) than I am, but I do like the expression the "music knowing you".

I'll check it out, and will try not to see you as being ALWAYS antagonistic.

[MDlaxfan76]

The laws prohibiting public gatherings over a certain number in size. Not sure if Virginia has a mask law, but if it does, that was violated as well.

Virginia requested that Trump not hold the rally, or reduce its size to the legal limit. He refused.

Trump has been violating the rules in Pennsylvania with all or most of his rallies.

Reporting says the rally violated Virginia mandates.

[MDlaxfan76]

Most poll workers are Democrats and will discard military ballots since they go about 80-20 R to D.

Depends where you are. In my town, most are Republicans. In New Jersey at least, each party gets a certain number of poll watchers (same number per side) per voting district.

That may have been how military voters split in the past, but I suspect it’s going to be a lot more equal this election due to Trump’s “suckers” and “losers” comment. Disgraceful.

My mother-in law in Massachusetts, on the Cape, was a registered Dem so that she could be an poll watcher as a Dem, though she never voted, ever, for a Dem herself. I found that quite strange, but she was proud of herself...she felt it was important to be sure there were plenty of R's at the poll...but of course, she was just one of many poll workers from both sides.

I guess it's at least possible that such instances occur more than we think, but seems VERY implausible that it's widespread, much less 100% the way the wing nuts seem to think. Much less that the poll workers actually do anything illegal. Just too may ways to get caught.

[njbill]

Yeah, it could be passed off as silly talk if Trump wasn't so seriously trying to foment a revolution.

In any endeavor as large as an election (120 million+ ballots cast) there will be mistakes made.

But mistakes don't equate to fraud.

The situation this week in Pa. is a perfect example. A temp mistook some envelopes with mail-in ballots for applications. Applications obviously need to be opened so he or she opened them. I suspect this temp then threw the papers away to avoid getting in trouble for opening a ballot too early under Pa. law (which still says "do not open until Xmas").

To repeat: MISTAKES DON'T EQUAL FRAUD.

[MDlaxfan76]

Ok, that crossed a line, RRR.

TLD's son had a tremendous college lacrosse experience, top player, and a great education.

You're out of line.

I don't think he meant it that way. I assumed that he knows that I know how folks exaggerate.

This little exchange kind of sums up exactly what I am talking about. Arrogant , contextless baffoons chiming in when they think little.

I am talking about people embellisioning their athletic status, saying they are being recruited by this, or that, "top" college. Back when we played, it happened. It happens today. And TLD, thru his son's experience, knows exactly of what I am talking about. Think, before you spew your arrogance.

You did so in the context of saying "possibly" to TLD's asking, politely, whether you thought he was lying? "possibly"???

But, ok, you were simply suggesting that TLD would know, through watching his son's recruiting experience (and thus others?), that some people, not TLD or his son, exaggerate the level of recruitment they received...but, hey, you weren't suggesting anything more than that, nothing about his son in specific. TLD apparently understood you that way, so all good.

Except for questioning his veracity.

"back when we played". When was that, RRR?

I don't recall any of my HS buddies (1976) exaggerating the recruiting they received, which, frankly, was minimal compared to the onslaught of attention comparable players receive today. 5 of my classmates and I were D1 AA in college, most multiple years, with a whole bunch of the younger players on the team eventually doing the same, including two first teamers. 12 of my classmates started on their college teams, most D1, a few DIII. Most of the 'recruiting' was actually the athletes expressing an interest in the school, maybe an alum suggesting to a coach that he pay attention, a few college trips, and a decision made in due course. None of the showcase tournament stuff of today, none of the social media stuff. And we rarely talked about it at all. Coaches may have seen us play, but we were largely oblivious to it. Summer ball was a weeknight or two, for fun and to improve, not to "show". In season we were focused on winning games as a team.

My son went through this more recently and was lightly recruited as he didn't start on his high school team until his senior year, just as I had done, but different recruiting era. All the intensity of showcases, all-star tournaments, club, etc. Nuts, but he enjoyed the playing and was self-driven to improve. And he paid for his own extra training, etc by working. His team had 6 D1 in his class who started in college, two of whom were college AA's, three of whom, like my son made all-conference teams in college. Some others who started in DIII. Lots of team captains in the bunch. His HS junior year's team had a bunch more, including a first team AA. The top 3 players in his class, who started as sophomores, received lots of attention, well deserved, but I never heard anyone exaggerating such, not the boys, not their parents. Same for the boys in the class above him. One of those three started at Denver as a freshman, but concussions ended his career, the other two were AA's, one the Big 10 Defenseman of the Year, the other a co-captain of a national championship team. None of these families exaggerated.

That said, I do know what you may be referring to of those who do exaggerate (confusing letters of outreach with actual recruitment or just insecure braggarts), but I'm not so sure that's the case for any, or sure not many, of those who are actually seriously recruited.

and that's what you were negatively dismissing with TLD's team mate.

do you have files where you cutNpaste this stuff, or do you free hand the exact same stories, several times a week, telliing us all about you.

geezbus....and than, at the end, you conclude that you might understand my point....that PARENTS, mostly, and many, many players...exerrate. That you agree with my statement.

I live in Eastern Mass. TLD Fairfield Cty/CONN. You live somewhere near the Beltway of Baltimore. You know what you know, we all know that about you. You have declared as much. You refuse new ideas, reading material and input. From anyone. Even wgsdr. Guessing your musical taste remains with multiple plays of "brandy, ur a fine girl", Paul Anka's "having my baby" and think the Talking Heads are Anderson Cooper and Chris Matthews.

My Spotify set-up answers were Nina Simone, Marvin Gaye, and Van Morrison but I'm not any music expert. I'd bet that you know a ton more than me in that arena. About various controlled substances too, for that matter, we can't all be experts...

But no, if you'd bothered to read what I wrote, you'd know that I said the opposite.

Seriously recruited players don't exaggerate and TLD certainly would know the difference.

Maybe you can't tell the difference? I don't know why being from Eastern Mass would handicap you into thinking that TLD would exaggerate or lie about his HS team mate's recruitment, but that's what you were suggesting.

But sure, there are undoubtedly some very naive or insecure folks out there...on that we can agree.

what are you talking about. go away. When, did I evah say that TLD was "exaggerating"....or even implied as much? If I asked a question regarding golf, and how you go about getting recruited ,would you know the answer? the process in 2020? Versus the 1970's. I certainly don't. Same for college hoops. than and now. just like TLD, that IS on you, if you think everything I write is antagonistic. ON YOU.

and, thank you for understanding the "possible" differences in our regions. catching on that a backyard bbq, with Boys Latin freshman lacrosse parents only, no one is going to grab another drink while saying "...yes, UNC just verballed Richard....so excited" Why is no one going to say that at an MIAA back yard bbq? Because the likelyhood of someone knowing......blah blah, you know the rest. It's reality.

Fairfield county? You can pick your spots. But, again, for top athletes, and people for that matter, there never a need to embellish. To tell accolades.

Emass? Even at ISL and "top" club team backyard bbq's, the embellishment tree is ripe. After all, can't tell you how many times.........

So, I could be like you, and disparrage that you caught on. Instead, hats off to finally reading and understand. And look, no insults about it, aimed at you. I like who I am. I think you like who you were.

And, it's not about you, knowing a lot about music; it's about the music knowing a lot about you.

As TLD also interpreted your post to suggest he was lying, or more nicely "exaggerating", I think I'm on solid ground that that was your repeated implication.

Despite TLD's own self deprecation, I have no doubt that he himself was a very fine athlete and very much understood the varying levels of recruiting in his era, in his sport, which is what he was referring to and you challenged. He didn't need to have observed his son's experiences in soccer and lacrosse, though certainly that would be a more recent experience...but that wasn't what he was referring to, it was his own assessment of an athlete's experience years ago.

I agree, as would TLD I'm sure, that there are always going to be some knuckleheads who do exaggerate such, perhaps particularly wound too tight parents. But very, very rarely would such come from an actual top athlete. Then or now.

I doubt that would occur in any sport, or any region, differently than another, but it's certainly possible that there are more such in your backyard or personal experience than mine. Not sure why, though, even your explanation that there are too many well-informed others who would see through the braggadocio in some 'backyards' than others. My hunch would be that braggarts are evenly distributed in the regions and 'backyards' but I have not done a 'study' of such. Don't really care either.

But your hypothesis is certainly possible.

Have a good Saturday.

[Peter Brown]

Most poll workers are Democrats and will discard military ballots since they go about 80-20 R to D.

Depends where you are. In my town, most are Republicans. In New Jersey at least, each party gets a certain number of poll watchers (same number per side) per voting district.

That may have been how military voters split in the past, but I suspect it’s going to be a lot more equal this election due to Trump’s “suckers” and “losers” comment. Disgraceful.

My mother-in law in Massachusetts, on the Cape, was a registered Dem so that she could be an poll watcher as a Dem, though she never voted, ever, for a Dem herself. I found that quite strange, but she was proud of herself...she felt it was important to be sure there were plenty of R's at the poll...but of course, she was just one of many poll workers from both sides.

I guess it's at least possible that such instances occur more than we think, but seems VERY implausible that it's widespread, much less 100% the way the wing nuts seem to think. Much less that the poll workers actually do anything illegal. Just too may ways to get caught.

Very naive, MD. Or purposely obtuse. Which one?

There are actually hundreds of ways to avoid being caught if you feel like doing what the person in Pennsylania did. That person got caught because they got ratted out...otherwise he'd have gotten off scot free as they all do.

[Peter Brown]

Yeah, it could be passed off as silly talk if Trump wasn't so seriously trying to foment a revolution.

In any endeavor as large as an election (120 million+ ballots cast) there will be mistakes made.

But mistakes don't equate to fraud.

The situation this week in Pa. is a perfect example. A temp mistook some envelopes with mail-in ballots for applications. Applications obviously need to be opened so he or she opened them. I suspect this temp then threw the papers away to avoid getting in trouble for opening a ballot too early under Pa. law (which still says "do not open until Xmas").

To repeat: MISTAKES DON'T EQUAL FRAUD.

Yes, it is a revolution, which you fail to see because you are a Democrat.

Inside your party is a wing (large) which we euphemistically call the Far Left Progressives. I realize that our fearless media doesn't do much to let you in on what this FLP wing is up to (actually they do far worse than not covering it, they mislead you and other Democrats to thinking that we have a right wing violence issue, which naturally you swallow; of course you would note that no right wineg groups are running around looting stores, rioting, intimidating diners, etc..., but that story is for another day).

If you open your eyes to independent journalists, you will note that across America in many large and even medium sixed cities, this wing of the Democratic Party is engaging in nothing less than homegrown terrorism.

Trump needs to do nothing to 'foment a revolution'...the Democratic Party is already causing one. Here's the irony: Biden might be your last sane and normal senior stateman left. Ed Markey (a senator!) has thrown his hat down with the anarchists. Obviously congresspeople such as Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib literally beg for a revolution. Mayors like Jenny Dirkan and Ted Wheeler are too scared to fight the anarchists. The rest of the party will be drawn over the line shortly.

If you want to fly an American flag on your property, prepare to have it torn down. If you dare to sing the national anthem, prepare to be shamed out of doing it.

Trump is here as your antagonist, for now. And if Biden wins, the FLP wing will turn their fire on him too, just as they will turn their fire on you. Very few progressives, Democrats, and leftists understand just how cancerous their core philosophy of leftism is...in the end, it's a mob philosophy, and it will eat you just as it is trying to eat America today.

YOU THINK A PERSON WHO WOULD SWING AN ALUMINUM BAT A COP'S HEAD WOULD HAVE ANY FEAR OF COMMITTING VOTER FRAUD?

[cradleandshoot]

The laws prohibiting public gatherings over a certain number in size. Not sure if Virginia has a mask law, but if it does, that was violated as well.

Virginia requested that Trump not hold the rally, or reduce its size to the legal limit. He refused.

Trump has been violating the rules in Pennsylvania with all or most of his rallies.

Reporting says the rally violated Virginia mandates.

They might have been pretending they were college kids.

[6ftstick]

The laws prohibiting public gatherings over a certain number in size. Not sure if Virginia has a mask law, but if it does, that was violated as well.

Virginia requested that Trump not hold the rally, or reduce its size to the legal limit. He refused.

Trump has been violating the rules in Pennsylvania with all or most of his rallies.

what Law. Have legislatures VOTED on and Passed any laws. Or are they gubernatorial BS edicts

[njbill]

Executive orders are law.

Or do you only consider them to be “law” when Trump issues them?

[MDlaxfan76]

Executive orders are law.

Or do you only consider them to be “law” when Trump issues them?

Let's be clear, the executive orders being questioned are public health orders, explicitly legal, powers granted by legislatures.

There's a very real legal question as to Presidential EO's, powers that are not explicitly granted.

You can explain this better than me, I'm sure.

Meanwhile, let's ignore the troll.

[njbill]

I was just pulling his chain in my second paragraph.

The issue of which presidential executive orders are legal and which are not is very complicated, as I am sure you know. Also, the subject of much litigation. Sometimes the courts uphold them, sometimes they don’t.

[ggait]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/26/politics ... index.html

Interesting analysis. Joe is in better shape as compared to Hillary because Joe is eating into Trump's base -- whites with no college. You'd never think that listening to Petey or watching Faux News.

That's why Joe is running ahead of Hillary in PA, Mich, WI, IA and OH. Joe also doing better among whites with college/suburbs, which explains AZ.

So Joe's two easiest winning hands:

PA/Mich/WI equals 278.

Mich/WI/AZ/NE2 equals 270 on the nose.

538 gives Trump a 23% chance of winning. 23% happens all the time -- drawing to a flush. But Joe's chance of a landslide is bigger at 30%.

Joe is prepping for the debate. Trump is watching cable news. Fingers crossed.

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/26/politics ... index.html

Interesting analysis. Joe is in better shape as compared to Hillary because Joe is eating into Trump's base -- whites with no college. You'd never think that listening to Petey or watching Faux News.

That's why Joe is running ahead of Hillary in PA, Mich, WI, IA and OH. Joe also doing better among whites with college/suburbs, which explains AZ.

So Joe's two easiest winning hands:

PA/Mich/WI equals 278.

Mich/WI/AZ/NE2 equals 270 on the nose.

538 gives Trump a 23% chance of winning. 23% happens all the time -- drawing to a flush. But Joe's chance of a landslide is bigger at 30%.

Joe is prepping for the debate. Trump is watching cable news. Fingers crossed.

Here is my amateur analysis of the trump strategy. He wants to get Joe ticked off so Joe goes on a rampage while on camera. trump is not a debater, he is an agitator and a pretty damn good one. If anybody expects this to be about policy think again. I think this will get down in the gutter nasty and personal.