2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[jhu72]

Here’s the proper response:

https://mobile.twitter.com/briantylerco ... 3187395584

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[njbill]

Most poll workers are Democrats and will discard military ballots since they go about 80-20 R to D.

Depends where you are. In my town, most are Republicans. In New Jersey at least, each party gets a certain number of poll watchers (same number per side) per voting district.

That may have been how military voters split in the past, but I suspect it’s going to be a lot more equal this election due to Trump’s “suckers” and “losers” comment. Disgraceful.

[wgdsr]

Most poll workers are Democrats and will discard military ballots since they go about 80-20 R to D.

Depends where you are. In my town, most are Republicans. In New Jersey at least, each party gets a certain number of poll watchers (same number per side) per voting district.

That may have been how military voters split in the past, but I suspect it’s going to be a lot more equal this election due to Trump’s “suckers” and “losers” comment. Disgraceful.

so i've been pretty interested in this. who has gone on record for those comments/words? many have gone on record to say he wouldn't/couldn't say the attributions, and they were there, etc... but no one is there 24/7.
who said he said those things?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Ok, that crossed a line, RRR.

TLD's son had a tremendous college lacrosse experience, top player, and a great education.

You're out of line.

I don't think he meant it that way. I assumed that he knows that I know how folks exaggerate.

This little exchange kind of sums up exactly what I am talking about. Arrogant , contextless baffoons chiming in when they think little.

I am talking about people embellisioning their athletic status, saying they are being recruited by this, or that, "top" college. Back when we played, it happened. It happens today. And TLD, thru his son's experience, knows exactly of what I am talking about. Think, before you spew your arrogance.

You did so in the context of saying "possibly" to TLD's asking, politely, whether you thought he was lying? "possibly"???

But, ok, you were simply suggesting that TLD would know, through watching his son's recruiting experience (and thus others?), that some people, not TLD or his son, exaggerate the level of recruitment they received...but, hey, you weren't suggesting anything more than that, nothing about his son in specific. TLD apparently understood you that way, so all good.

Except for questioning his veracity.

"back when we played". When was that, RRR?

I don't recall any of my HS buddies (1976) exaggerating the recruiting they received, which, frankly, was minimal compared to the onslaught of attention comparable players receive today. 5 of my classmates and I were D1 AA in college, most multiple years, with a whole bunch of the younger players on the team eventually doing the same, including two first teamers. 12 of my classmates started on their college teams, most D1, a few DIII. Most of the 'recruiting' was actually the athletes expressing an interest in the school, maybe an alum suggesting to a coach that he pay attention, a few college trips, and a decision made in due course. None of the showcase tournament stuff of today, none of the social media stuff. And we rarely talked about it at all. Coaches may have seen us play, but we were largely oblivious to it. Summer ball was a weeknight or two, for fun and to improve, not to "show". In season we were focused on winning games as a team.

My son went through this more recently and was lightly recruited as he didn't start on his high school team until his senior year, just as I had done, but different recruiting era. All the intensity of showcases, all-star tournaments, club, etc. Nuts, but he enjoyed the playing and was self-driven to improve. And he paid for his own extra training, etc by working. His team had 6 D1 in his class who started in college, two of whom were college AA's, three of whom, like my son made all-conference teams in college. Some others who started in DIII. Lots of team captains in the bunch. His HS junior year's team had a bunch more, including a first team AA. The top 3 players in his class, who started as sophomores, received lots of attention, well deserved, but I never heard anyone exaggerating such, not the boys, not their parents. Same for the boys in the class above him. One of those three started at Denver as a freshman, but concussions ended his career, the other two were AA's, on the Big 10 Defenseman of the Year, the other a co-captain of a national championship team. None of these families exaggerated.

That said, I do know what you may be referring to of those who do exaggerate (confusing letters of outreach with actual recruitment or just insecure braggarts), but I'm not so sure that's the case for any, or sure not many, of those who are actually seriously recruited.

and that's what you were negatively dismissing with TLD's team mate.

Yes. As if I don’t know what being recruited meant, particularly back then. I still have a media guide from the state tournament in which he was profiled and it mentions him being name top Sophomore in the State and who was recruiting him. I also used to go to the school office with him as he picked up his recruiting mail. Back then, then letters went to the coaches C/O.

off the rails. I asked because YOU knew what it meant. (recruiting) Your failure to understand the obvious in on you. I asked what proof you had that he was a top recruit. I have zero idea what that means in basketball world. 50 years ago, or today. All I know of basketball is that we lost in the Maryland U's intrammural championship game........won't go into details, but it included the way its' pronounced, band that sang, We're only making plans for nigel. Or, of course, my all time favorite, "dear god".

Lacrosse? I know what recruiting was like than, and now. More accutely, what the parents know about recruiting. Than, and now. TLD, you stated that you didn't play lacrosse in HIGH school, correct? If you look at someone looking for a fight , all the time, that is on you. I was just curious what being a "top" recruit meant, in the 1970's, in Ohio. Publications certainly existed, ranking hoops players. I do not know. Again ,why I asked. mcdonalds AA didn't happen, yet, right? Were blacks even allowed to be recruited at some top schools. again, don't know. But, I will always watch the latest movie/show about the most corrupt sport in all of college sports. It's past, fascinates me. Blame it on "goodfellas"

. I bet most posters, that played lacrosse, at a top level, can tell similar stories about HS friends being top recruits, only throwing it to the drug prowling wolf. I actually know one. Being totally serious. He was a sex addict, along with beer. ...but it was the nympho that got him. He would say "trump like " things in bars. had the most beautiful girlfriends. Several marriages. etc. Crazy good lacrosse player.

In short, not my problem if you feel confronted when asked to provide further details of your life experience. Willing to bet the vast majority of posters, D1 Players included, could give details as to what really constituted serious recruiting efforts in the basketball world of the 1970's, turtle boy excluded.

and the " I know an athlete when I see one" comment IS good for a chuckle. That IS coming from your basketball, perspective, so I will cut you some slack. You can succeed in lacrosse without being a superior "athlete". Hoops, almost to the point were it IS impossible. And than there are the dads that only look at size......you're not one of those, are you?

I listed the schools recruiting my teammate. The point was he went to the suburbs and picked up bad habits drinking and smoking and instead of playing for say Bobby Knight at Indiana, he played at a mid major. I know an athlete when I see one is because I have been around guys that have went on to be professional athletes. Many of which you know by name. John and Jim Paxson being two of them. Jim Lachey wasn’t a friend but I saw him in high school. He ran the 110 high hurdles. He was an offensive tackle. A freak.

I don’t mind you asking for more clarification. But your implication was that I was lying. You have bought tickets to see friends play. I wasn’t good enough but a number of my friends were. Don’t let kids drink in your barn, you could cost them a future.

EDIT: I had completely forgotten that a teammate for one semester of college played and Rindge and Latin with Patrick and Rumeal....he was a good player. Wouldn’t go to class so he didn’t last long. He made 2 plays in one of the few games he played in that the opposing coach said where the two most athletic plays he had seen in 20 years of coaching in that league. His player, had 50 against us. It was a nice and tidy 50 but the Boston kid left him slack jawed. I remember your Skeets story so you too know what an athlete looks like.

[njbill]

I’m not aware that anyone has gone on record regarding the comments. But a number of reputable journalists from different news organizations have confirmed the report. I assume that either means the source has confirmed it to a number of different journalists or these journalists have found other sources.

In either event, it is the judgment of these journalists and their news organizations that the source or sources are sufficiently reliable or trustworthy to report this is news.

I really don’t think anybody seriously disputes that this is something Trump said. It is consistent with other, somewhat similar things he has said on tape. E.g., McCain.

[old salt]

Most poll workers are Democrats and will discard military ballots since they go about 80-20 R to D.

Depends where you are. In my town, most are Republicans. In New Jersey at least, each party gets a certain number of poll watchers (same number per side) per voting district.

That may have been how military voters split in the past, but I suspect it’s going to be a lot more equal this election due to Trump’s “suckers” and “losers” comment. Disgraceful.

so i've been pretty interested in this. who has gone on record for those comments/words? many have gone on record to say he wouldn't/couldn't say the attributions, and they were there, etc... but no one is there 24/7.
who said he said those things?

Unnamed source. Maybe it was that Russian spy who worked for Fiona Hill & Strobe Talbott at Brookings. The MSM eats his stuff up.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Most poll workers are Democrats and will discard military ballots since they go about 80-20 R to D.

Depends where you are. In my town, most are Republicans. In New Jersey at least, each party gets a certain number of poll watchers (same number per side) per voting district.

That may have been how military voters split in the past, but I suspect it’s going to be a lot more equal this election due to Trump’s “suckers” and “losers” comment. Disgraceful.

so i've been pretty interested in this. who has gone on record for those comments/words? many have gone on record to say he wouldn't/couldn't say the attributions, and they were there, etc... but no one is there 24/7.
who said he said those things?

Sonny Corleone said it. I heard it myself.

[CU88]

Just when you think the r's can sink no lower. Tax payers dollars to buy votes for IMPOTUS o d.

Trump says he’s sending seniors $200 drug coupons
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/2 ... ors-421511


What To Know About Those $200 Drug Cards President Trump Promised
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... p-promised

"...that's $6.6 billion dollars to a key voting block weeks before Election Day."

[cradleandshoot]

Just when you think the r's can sink no lower. Tax payers dollars to buy votes for IMPOTUS o d.

Trump says he’s sending seniors $200 drug coupons
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/2 ... ors-421511


What To Know About Those $200 Drug Cards President Trump Promised
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... p-promised

"...that's $6.6 billion dollars to a key voting block weeks before Election Day."

An Democrats are saying .... why didn't we think of that?

[ToastDunk]

Republican Gov. Baker
https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/sta ... 95584?s=20

[ToastDunk]

Most poll workers are Democrats and will discard military ballots since they go about 80-20 R to D.

Depends where you are. In my town, most are Republicans. In New Jersey at least, each party gets a certain number of poll watchers (same number per side) per voting district.

That may have been how military voters split in the past, but I suspect it’s going to be a lot more equal this election due to Trump’s “suckers” and “losers” comment. Disgraceful.

so i've been pretty interested in this. who has gone on record for those comments/words? many have gone on record to say he wouldn't/couldn't say the attributions, and they were there, etc... but no one is there 24/7.
who said he said those things?

Sonny Corleone said it. I heard it myself.

From a poll in late August
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pent ... for-biden/

And this more recently from Forbes.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurk ... c9775de6d0

What source is that 80/20 stat coming from PB?

[Peter Brown]

Republican Gov. Baker
https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/sta ... 95584?s=20

I’m convinced now that politicians simply feel that voters are irretrievably dumb.

Does anyone truly believe Trump would not leave office if he lost in a fair election? If you do, you are indeed too dumb to vote. Trump has a transition team which is already deep in the weeds with that scenario, as required by law. They are by all accounts further along at this stage than any previous President.

Trump plays everyone like a fiddle because he can. And media eats it up, regurgitates it, and birdbrains think it’s real. Then politicians play along, getting their voters to think they’re outraged when they most definitely are not.

Jfc. We are screwed as a country. Everything and everyone is so dumb.

[ToastDunk]

Republican Gov. Baker
https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/sta ... 95584?s=20

I’m convinced now that politicians simply feel that voters are irretrievably dumb.

Does anyone truly believe Trump would not leave office if he lost in a fair election? If you do, you are indeed too dumb to vote. Trump has a transition team which is already deep in the weeds with that scenario, as required by law. They are by all accounts further along at this stage than any previous President.

Trump plays everyone like a fiddle because he can. And media eats it up, regurgitates it, and birdbrains think it’s real. Then politicians play along, getting their voters to think they’re outraged when they most definitely are not.

Jfc. We are screwed as a country. Everything and everyone is so dumb.

But Trump won't find any scenario where he loses the election, "a fair election." So yes, if he loses the election I don't expect to see a smooth transfer of power.

By what accounts specifically is the Trump transition team further along at this stage than any previous President?

Any luck with that 80/20 data on the military's support for Trump?

[Peter Brown]

Republican Gov. Baker
https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/sta ... 95584?s=20

I’m convinced now that politicians simply feel that voters are irretrievably dumb.

Does anyone truly believe Trump would not leave office if he lost in a fair election? If you do, you are indeed too dumb to vote. Trump has a transition team which is already deep in the weeds with that scenario, as required by law. They are by all accounts further along at this stage than any previous President.

Trump plays everyone like a fiddle because he can. And media eats it up, regurgitates it, and birdbrains think it’s real. Then politicians play along, getting their voters to think they’re outraged when they most definitely are not.

Jfc. We are screwed as a country. Everything and everyone is so dumb.

But Trump won't find any scenario where he loses the election, "a fair election." So yes, if he loses the election I don't expect to see a smooth transfer of power.

By what accounts specifically is the Trump transition team further along at this stage than any previous President?

Any luck with that 80/20 data on the military's support for Trump?

Took me one second to get an article on the transition team, notwithstanding the obligatory dumb headline. Try reading the whole article before replying.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/2 ... ion-421465

Every politician thinks you’re dumb. And you do nothing to convince them otherwise by thinking Trump won’t leave if he loses. It’s why Baker says something he knows is demonstrably stupid; he’s playing you just like the media played you just like Trump played you.

Elections historically have assumed an acceptable margin of Democratic fraud. We always have. Democrats cheat because they breathe politics and lean on government for support, hence their hysteria around elections.

The problems arise when elections are within that tight band of Democratic fraud. Historically we’ve avoided chaos, but in cases like Norm Coleman of Minnesota, in order to avoid Democratic riots, the Republican generally caves. In a case like Bush v Gore, SCOTUS simply had to put a timeline on things or otherwise we’d still be litigating.

[Unknown Participant]

Most poll workers are Democrats and will discard military ballots since they go about 80-20 R to D.

Depends where you are. In my town, most are Republicans. In New Jersey at least, each party gets a certain number of poll watchers (same number per side) per voting district.

That may have been how military voters split in the past, but I suspect it’s going to be a lot more equal this election due to Trump’s “suckers” and “losers” comment. Disgraceful.

Perhaps, an appropriate way to think if anyone is stupid enough to think he actually said that.

The combat arms branches of the military pretty solidly vote republican in strong/overwhelming numbers, don't know so much about the pogues, probs more liberal since a larger % of those service members not white male.

[Peter Brown]

Meanwhile yesterday Trump had four election rallies, capped with a huge one in Newport News VA, which is basically a military town.

I know Democrats hate hearing that American taxpayers feel that your party has abandoned America, but it has and these rallies show that.

You are in for a great surprise 11-3. Americans are waking up.

[njbill]

Perhaps, an appropriate way to think if anyone is stupid enough to think he actually said that.

Oh he said it. No doubt about that.

Are you stupid enough to think he didn’t say it? Sounds like you have been drinking the Kool-Aid so long you are deaf, dumb, and blind.

He does what he always does when he gets caught. He lies. Usually his first “go to” is that he was joking. But that didn’t fit here so we had to go straight to a lie.

[njbill]

Why is Trump wasting his time in Virginia? There is zero chance he will win the state.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

[DMac]

As for the question about any luck with PB finding any kind of confirmation with the 80-20 bullschidt he put out there, as any non brainwashed person who isn't wearing blinders already knows, the answer to that will be no. Anyone who would say that is completely clueless about who makes up our military.
Here's one military guy's answer:

Chris Marthini, MA to GM. Fair amount of management experience at United States Navy (2010-present)
Answered April 9, 2018 · Author has 396 answers and 175.1K answer views
Originally Answered: Are most military people in the US including Veterans republican?
Short answer: no.

Not as short answer: there's more to politics than “Democrat or Republican,” “left or right.” so maybe stop with that nonsense.

Long Answer: people from all walks of life join the military. Geeks, nerds, jocks, loaners, goths. Sheltered suburbanites, country boys that have never seen a skyscraper, poor people, rich people, highly educated and people that are dumber than a box of rocks. All religions, political leanings, even different countries with entirely different cultures. Gang members, drug addicts and people who've never done a single thing wrong in their life. Let alone been yelled at.

Think of a type or background, and I can guarantee you'll find them, simce the military is a microcosm of the country as a whole.

There's every type of person possible in the United States Military, and just like the country itself, is not easily defined by generic terms or groups.

The best thing about it is the fact that with all these different people, backgrounds, cultures, ideas and perspectives, we all work together. And despite the sibling rivalry and turd-talk, each branch will defend the other branchs…even the Coast Guard. Idgf if that Soldier is a Killary voting, backwoods living nerd that plays D&D on the weekends. If he's getting some turd from someone outside the service, (i.e. civilians) you best believe I'll have his back.

Thar's pretty accurate all in all.

[Peter Brown]

Why is Trump wasting his time in Virginia? There is zero chance he will win the state.

Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Take the fight to them. The military hates the pencil-neck skinny-Jean northern-Virginia federal government perma-leeches.

Plus Newport News television broadcasts into North Carolina.

Does it bother you seeing 40,000 patriots standing 8 hours for Trump?