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a fan wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:27 pm a fan always says others take 'his money', which is a hoot because he conveniently neglects to add that alcohol companies cost society significant multiples of despair, health problems, and suicide than any other industry
:lol: Out comes uberliberal Pete----he wants to tax companies for the effects he thinks they have on society.

Antifa would LOVE it if you did that, Pete. They'd make that jet fuel of yours cost ten times what it does now.

I'm sure you wouldn't complain, right, Comrade?

Fast foods? They'd make a Big Mac $20. A can of soda? $10.

Great plan, comrade Pete! When can we start?

(Psst, you already tax my business because of what I make. Federal, State, and in some case, local taxes....all levied on my company.)


I don't want to tax anyone...where did you get that? I am pointing out your easily-debunked claim that others take your money; we all support you, and happy to do so. We support you probably at multiples of 1000x your actual cost. You should come here every day and thank us.
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:35 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:27 pm a fan always says others take 'his money', which is a hoot because he conveniently neglects to add that alcohol companies cost society significant multiples of despair, health problems, and suicide than any other industry
:lol: Out comes uberliberal Pete----he wants to tax companies for the effects he thinks they have on society.

Antifa would LOVE it if you did that, Pete. They'd make that jet fuel of yours cost ten times what it does now.

I'm sure you wouldn't complain, right, Comrade?

Fast foods? They'd make a Big Mac $20. A can of soda? $10.

Great plan, comrade Pete! When can we start?

(Psst, you already tax my business because of what I make. Federal, State, and in some case, local taxes....all levied on my company.)


I don't want to tax anyone...where did you get that?
Because I'm already taxed for the reason you cited: you and your fellow voters think that alcohol takes a toll on society. So you tax us. Same goes for cigarettes. They're called "sin" taxes, even though neither are actual sins.

I'm simply telling you where this line of thinking goes. So don't stop with me----tax every company that "harms" society. That's my point.

And since you keep forgetting, I'll remind you yet again: I was both happy and proud to help pay for your education at UFlorida, Pete. I'm not the one who's against handouts and socialism....that's you, my man.

I'm mocking your hypocrisy, is all. ;)
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wgdsr wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:59 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:47 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:31 pm make college free and the upper middle and higher win.
If that's REALLY the gripe? Means test it. Problem solved.

Remember that I have to compete in the international market.....competing with distillers, brewers and maltsters who's training, education, and health care are paid for by their EU/UK government.

So it's not just college. It's vocational training as well. Offer free computer programming training. Free welding and construction training. Get them marketable jobs.

What we're doing now isn't working for the median working class and below, imho.
i don't disagree with your new points here. if we're going to be throwing money around like drunken sailors? it might as well be targeted properly.

next problem would be getting them in the door in substantial numbers, but you have to start somewhere. public/private partnerships that would have tight oversight would be a hope, not sure if in my lifetime or my kids' i could expect that to be efficient, maybe just more efficient?

given that "free college" may not come with a real emphasis on the above... and one that would have an opposite real outcome.... i don't consider that a great start.

awesome platform talking point, tho.
There are plenty of colleges people can afford. I don’t believe college should be free but rather affordable should be the goal and this includes trade schools.

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a fan wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:42 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:35 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:27 pm a fan always says others take 'his money', which is a hoot because he conveniently neglects to add that alcohol companies cost society significant multiples of despair, health problems, and suicide than any other industry
:lol: Out comes uberliberal Pete----he wants to tax companies for the effects he thinks they have on society.

Antifa would LOVE it if you did that, Pete. They'd make that jet fuel of yours cost ten times what it does now.

I'm sure you wouldn't complain, right, Comrade?

Fast foods? They'd make a Big Mac $20. A can of soda? $10.

Great plan, comrade Pete! When can we start?

(Psst, you already tax my business because of what I make. Federal, State, and in some case, local taxes....all levied on my company.)


I don't want to tax anyone...where did you get that?
Because I'm already taxed for the reason you cited: you and your fellow voters think that alcohol takes a toll on society. So you tax us. Same goes for cigarettes. They're called "sin" taxes, even though neither are actual sins.

I'm simply telling you where this line of thinking goes. So don't stop with me----tax every company that "harms" society. That's my point.

And since you keep forgetting, I'll remind you yet again: I was both happy and proud to help pay for your education at UFlorida, Pete. I'm not the one who's against handouts and socialism....that's you, my man.

I'm mocking your hypocrisy, is all. ;)


Oh, we don't "think" alcohol takes a toll on society. You already gave us 4 generations of Kennedy's who have never paid one dime in inheritance taxes nor have worked in the private sector. That's bad enough!

Alcohol abuse and dependence claim an estimated 100,000 lives each year in the United States, but the cost to society doesn't stop there. Heavy drinking takes its toll on society as a whole, costing industry, the government, and the U.S. taxpayer an estimated at $249 billion each year, according to a report from the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC report, published in 2016, concluded that two of every five dollars of these costs (or an estimated $100.7 billion) were picked up federal and state governments.

Not much to 'think' about. Like I say, come here every day and beg for forgiveness, and we are happy to carry your company at no net cost to you; yours is highway robbery.

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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:55 pm Heavy drinking takes its toll on society as a whole, costing industry, the government, and the U.S. taxpayer an estimated at $249 billion each year, according to a report from the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
:lol: Heavy drinking-----having several drinks a day, rather than a pint of beer with dinner---costs the equivalent of 1% of total US GDP?

Riiiiiight.

You really don't get it. You think alcohol is the only think in America that takes a toll on life when abused? How about all the brain damage and health issues you get from playing football? You gonna start taxing Pop Warner?

Or how about ice cream and candy bars, and all the obesity that you get from it? Or, or, or......

Your team is supposed to let people choose to do with their lives. Caveat Emptor. Try and act like the conservative that you think you are for ten minutes in a row, Pete. You keep showing your far left colors....... ;)
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Interesting thing I have noticed, at least in my neighborhood on my daily dog walks. There are no political signs up in front of peoples homes. Normally by this time they have sprouted up all over the place. The only one I have seen is Biden/Harris and they have a bunch of them in their yard. I know it may be way too early. I actually like not having to look at them.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:43 pm Interesting thing I have noticed, at least in my neighborhood on my daily dog walks. There are no political signs up in front of peoples homes. Normally by this time they have sprouted up all over the place. The only one I have seen is Biden/Harris and they have a bunch of them in their yard. I know it may be way too early. I actually like not having to look at them.


Come to Florida (this is a parade...the yard signs are even more ubiquitous...I give Biden Florida Dems credit when you see the rare one; it's like an act of defiance in a red state)

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cradleandshoot wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:43 pm Interesting thing I have noticed, at least in my neighborhood on my daily dog walks. There are no political signs up in front of peoples homes. Normally by this time they have sprouted up all over the place. The only one I have seen is Biden/Harris and they have a bunch of them in their yard. I know it may be way too early. I actually like not having to look at them.
I'd say maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of our neighborhood in Virginia Beach has signs up. It seems to be a fairly even split. People on the neighborhood apps complain about signs getting stolen about once a week. Both D and R signs stolen, most of the camera footage seems to show teenagers doing it for giggles.
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Ranked choice voting in Maine a go for presidential election

CONGRATS TO MAINE!!!!!!!! First in the nation. I know I'm a broken record on here suggesting this and a few other changes, but I truly believe it's for the best for our country. It promotes voting for third parties while at the same time eliminates the spoiler effect third party candidates can create, and keeps extremists from winning elections with like 30% support from the electorate.

It's been available down-ballot for a while now, but nice to see it's a go for everything. Hopefully in this case, "As Maine goes, so goes the nation"
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Cindy McCain just endorsed Joe Biden for president: "We are Republicans, yes, but Americans Foremost"
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njbill wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:41 pm No worries, Pete. Part of the Bloomberg operation is that after he pays the fine, he fills out the mail in ballot for them and drops it off. It’s the no touch system.


I don’t doubt it!

Hey new twist on Bloomie’s deal: he’s only paying the fines of Black and Hispanic felons!

Now a skeptical sort might say he’s encouraging voter fraud if not outright racism, but not me.
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:01 pm
njbill wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:41 pm No worries, Pete. Part of the Bloomberg operation is that after he pays the fine, he fills out the mail in ballot for them and drops it off. It’s the no touch system.


I don’t doubt it!

Hey new twist on Bloomie’s deal: he’s only paying the fines of Black and Hispanic felons!

Now a skeptical sort might say he’s encouraging voter fraud if not outright racism, but not me.
Well of course he's only paying the fines of Blacks & Hispanics. After getting slighted by the Dem machine, Bloomberg is getting the vote out for Trump! We all know that Trump has done more for Blacks than any other president since Lincoln, and you yourself say Latinos are tired of the socialists in Cuba and Latin America, so they're all voting for Trump instead of radical leftist socialist Joe Biden.

It's the liberals who are attacking Bloomberg, saying he's a racist and encouraging voter fraud.
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:01 pm
njbill wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:41 pm No worries, Pete. Part of the Bloomberg operation is that after he pays the fine, he fills out the mail in ballot for them and drops it off. It’s the no touch system.


I don’t doubt it!

Hey new twist on Bloomie’s deal: he’s only paying the fines of Black and Hispanic felons!

Now a skeptical sort might say he’s encouraging voter fraud if not outright racism, but not me.
Let’s back up a moment here, Pete.

Just who was it that instituted the rule that the ex-felons couldn’t vote unless they paid their fines?

And there is nothing stopping Trump from paying the fines of the Republican crooks.
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njbill wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:16 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:01 pm
njbill wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:41 pm No worries, Pete. Part of the Bloomberg operation is that after he pays the fine, he fills out the mail in ballot for them and drops it off. It’s the no touch system.


I don’t doubt it!

Hey new twist on Bloomie’s deal: he’s only paying the fines of Black and Hispanic felons!

Now a skeptical sort might say he’s encouraging voter fraud if not outright racism, but not me.
Let’s back up a moment here, Pete.

Just who was it that instituted the rule that the ex-felons couldn’t vote unless they paid their fines?

And there is nothing stopping Trump from paying the fines of the Republican crooks.
Actually, there is - Trump doesn't have the money he says he did.
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Maybe Brad can sell one of his Ferraris.
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Shutdown averted according to Pelosi. She got $8 billion for children and safeguards on spending of CCC dollars, by Trump. The $ must go where they are budgeted to go, no moving funds around as Trump is known to do.

I love republicans. Their concern for giving dollars to their base, farmers, out of the pockets of the "maker" states. Isn't socialism for farmers great. :lol: F*ing hypocrites.
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jhu72 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:37 pm I love republicans. Their concern for giving dollars to their base, farmers, out of the pockets of the "maker" states. Isn't socialism for farmers great. :lol: F*ing hypocrites.
It's not a handout or socialism if Pete says it isn't.

Isn't it neat how these things work in their minds? Direct cash to farmers don't count as handouts. That's the "Republican Free Market".
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njbill wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:16 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:01 pm
njbill wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:41 pm No worries, Pete. Part of the Bloomberg operation is that after he pays the fine, he fills out the mail in ballot for them and drops it off. It’s the no touch system.
I don’t doubt it!

Hey new twist on Bloomie’s deal: he’s only paying the fines of Black and Hispanic felons!

Now a skeptical sort might say he’s encouraging voter fraud if not outright racism, but not me.
Let’s back up a moment here, Pete.

Just who was it that instituted the rule that the ex-felons couldn’t vote unless they paid their fines?

And there is nothing stopping Trump from paying the fines of the Republican crooks.
This is getting expensive. A few smokes & a bottle of Thunderbird won't get it done anymore ?
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old salt wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:34 am
njbill wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:16 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:01 pm
njbill wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:41 pm No worries, Pete. Part of the Bloomberg operation is that after he pays the fine, he fills out the mail in ballot for them and drops it off. It’s the no touch system.
I don’t doubt it!

Hey new twist on Bloomie’s deal: he’s only paying the fines of Black and Hispanic felons!

Now a skeptical sort might say he’s encouraging voter fraud if not outright racism, but not me.
Let’s back up a moment here, Pete.

Just who was it that instituted the rule that the ex-felons couldn’t vote unless they paid their fines?

And there is nothing stopping Trump from paying the fines of the Republican crooks.
This is getting expensive. A few smokes & a bottle of Thunderbird won't get it done anymore ?
Racist post.

Wow, you’re not even trying to pretend anymore, are you?

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a fan wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:42 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:35 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:32 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:27 pm a fan always says others take 'his money', which is a hoot because he conveniently neglects to add that alcohol companies cost society significant multiples of despair, health problems, and suicide than any other industry
:lol: Out comes uberliberal Pete----he wants to tax companies for the effects he thinks they have on society.

Antifa would LOVE it if you did that, Pete. They'd make that jet fuel of yours cost ten times what it does now.

I'm sure you wouldn't complain, right, Comrade?

Fast foods? They'd make a Big Mac $20. A can of soda? $10.

Great plan, comrade Pete! When can we start?

(Psst, you already tax my business because of what I make. Federal, State, and in some case, local taxes....all levied on my company.)


I don't want to tax anyone...where did you get that?
Because I'm already taxed for the reason you cited: you and your fellow voters think that alcohol takes a toll on society. So you tax us. Same goes for cigarettes. They're called "sin" taxes, even though neither are actual sins.

I'm simply telling you where this line of thinking goes. So don't stop with me----tax every company that "harms" society. That's my point.

And since you keep forgetting, I'll remind you yet again: I was both happy and proud to help pay for your education at UFlorida, Pete. I'm not the one who's against handouts and socialism....that's you, my man.

I'm mocking your hypocrisy, is all. ;)
Those folks at Ben and Jerry's should really be getting taxed up the wazoo. How dare they make that delicious high fat ice cream. How long have they been clogging arteries? ;)
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