... in the US there are currently 5 deaths per 95 recoveries, approx. 5% of resolved cases.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:15 am What's the fatality rate at these days?
What about serious case rate?
Is it waning?
Local MD colleges are not shutting anything down with sysmptoms- or requiring a test right now. They just make the student/faculty stay home for 2 weeks and return after your quarantine.
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Yes.jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:40 amI don't think it is the Internet per se. Some segments of the American populous have always been ignorant and proud of it. I think personal computers and modern communication technology just highlights the inherent ignorance.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:10 amI told a friend of mine about 14 years ago how the internet was going to dumb down America. He thought I was crazy. He told me a couple of years ago that I may have been right. It’s basic common sense. Some of the smartest people ever to walk the plant didn’t have a computer.....other than their brain.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:04 amexactly. like i said, i give her a pass. it's 2020, everything's political, so the bar is set really low. or it's not a bar, but a new normal? i love the freedom that gives us.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:43 amIt’s only a falsehood. Who cares.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:42 amhey, it's 2020. anything goes.RedFromMI wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:39 amThey read the wrong column. Number should be 92wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:34 amthe numbers i saw were about 100. not 19,295. wherein lies the difference?RedFromMI wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:22 amhttps://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trum ... death-tollTrump Falsely Claims COVID Affects ‘Virtually Nobody’ Who’s Young Despite Near 20K Death Toll
Trump painted the virus as something that only really impacts elderly people “with heart problems and other problems” but “nobody young.”
“Below the age of 18, like nobody. They have a strong immune system,” the President said. “Who knows? Take your hat off to the young, because they have a hell of an immune system.”
“But it affects virtually nobody,” he added. “It’s an amazing thing.”
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), COVID-19 had caused the death of 19,295 Americans between the ages of 0 to 17 by September 12.
wherever this person gets their info, it's not the cdc.
she probably had to source and edit and publish off her cellphone. and has crappy wifi.
talking points is oh for 3 in the articles i've been directed to, i think i could get a side hustle there. always wanted to be part of the 4th estate.
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Was this you?runrussellrun wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:19 amI do ride back up the mountain........my bike cost $800 bucks 15 years ago. Still works fine.youthathletics wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:17 amWhy are you so lazy and not riding back up the mountain..#gearsmatter.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:12 amlearn to TURN.......and you won't hit a tree. Learn to tune your own equipment too........when living in ski country, tuned skis EVERY nite. Especially in the icy east.holmes435 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:11 pmI grew up skiing the icy "mountains" south of Syracuse. No one wore helmets and we all were in neon. When I go out now anywhere around the country people without helmets are a vast minority. Lots of people back in neon for some reason...Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:21 pmI hate the activity. A dead person can do it. May not do it well but a dead body can go from top of a mountain to the bottom.
In high school, our starting LSM's father died running into a tree. A couple of deaths a year up there was normal. Putting a helmet on now is like wearing a seat-belt.
I don't wear a helmet while bike riding, either....it's as if lacrosse players nevah get concussions while wearing a helmet. I had to rent a helmet when going down the rabbit hole at Killington a few weeks back........what fun. Not much exercise, except for your lower arms. Don't know why those expensive FULL suspension bikes need all those gears......you rarely pedal uphill, if at all.
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after fumbling a legitimate test for about a month in its most crucial stage (and all manner of other subsequent machinations bt the admin and the agency), an erroneously posted guidance is what's going to ding the cdc's credibility. or maybe ruin it! you couldn't make this stuff up.
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nope, just more credibility lost as the Trump political folks have their hands into it. Again and again...which actually does matter.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:22 pm after fumbling a legitimate test for about a month in its most crucial stage (and all manner of other subsequent machinations bt the admin and the agency), an erroneously posted guidance is what's going to ding the cdc's credibility. or maybe ruin it! you couldn't make this stuff up.
https://www.cnbc.com/id/106712048?view= ... idappshare
I think it's fair to critique the CDC's early decision to go with a single test, instead of adopting the WHO standard right away, then evolving to better if we could. I'd like to know exactly how that decision was made, who was pushing etc, was it the scientists or the political appointees? Did the WH weigh in?
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In nys just yesterday there were 754 new cases. That means using your data approx, there should be 37 deaths out of this and 716 resolved recoveries. NYS has not had a death total, that I can remember from Andy's tweets, above 10 for quite some time. Do you think they might be underestimating/reporting the number of resolved cases? Yes I know there is a lag but the number of new cases has been fairly consistent for quite some time. Right around 1% of testing.jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am... in the US there are currently 5 deaths per 95 recoveries, approx. 5% of resolved cases.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:15 am What's the fatality rate at these days?
What about serious case rate?
Is it waning?
Local MD colleges are not shutting anything down with sysmptoms- or requiring a test right now. They just make the student/faculty stay home for 2 weeks and return after your quarantine.
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that was one issue. but from what i recall, it wouldn't have mattered. the labs they were creating them in were contaminated. by what, i don't know.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:29 pmnope, just more credibility lost as the Trump political folks have their hands into it. Again and again...which actually does matter.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:22 pm after fumbling a legitimate test for about a month in its most crucial stage (and all manner of other subsequent machinations bt the admin and the agency), an erroneously posted guidance is what's going to ding the cdc's credibility. or maybe ruin it! you couldn't make this stuff up.
https://www.cnbc.com/id/106712048?view= ... idappshare
I think it's fair to critique the CDC's early decision to go with a single test, instead of adopting the WHO standard right away, then evolving to better if we could. I'd like to know exactly how that decision was made, who was pushing etc, was it the scientists or the political appointees? Did the WH weigh in?
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Coronavirus Cases:Bart wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:33 pmIn nys just yesterday there were 754 new cases. That means using your data approx, there should be 37 deaths out of this and 716 resolved recoveries. NYS has not had a death total, that I can remember from Andy's tweets, above 10 for quite some time. Do you think they might be underestimating/reporting the number of resolved cases? Yes I know there is a lag but the number of new cases has been fairly consistent for quite some time. Right around 1% of testing.jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am... in the US there are currently 5 deaths per 95 recoveries, approx. 5% of resolved cases.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:15 am What's the fatality rate at these days?
What about serious case rate?
Is it waning?
Local MD colleges are not shutting anything down with sysmptoms- or requiring a test right now. They just make the student/faculty stay home for 2 weeks and return after your quarantine.
31,629,960
Deaths:
971,800
Recovered:
23,225,357
My guess is that the 5% will continue to trend down but with a second onset, it remains to be seen by how much if at all. Closing in on 1,000,000 dead people.
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You are a sage! It already has............total resolved cases (971800 + 23225257 = 24,197,157) Total dead as a percentage of resolved cases (971800/24197157 = 0.04)!!! Just funnin ya here.....I get the original approx.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:03 pmCoronavirus Cases:Bart wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:33 pmIn nys just yesterday there were 754 new cases. That means using your data approx, there should be 37 deaths out of this and 716 resolved recoveries. NYS has not had a death total, that I can remember from Andy's tweets, above 10 for quite some time. Do you think they might be underestimating/reporting the number of resolved cases? Yes I know there is a lag but the number of new cases has been fairly consistent for quite some time. Right around 1% of testing.jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am... in the US there are currently 5 deaths per 95 recoveries, approx. 5% of resolved cases.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:15 am What's the fatality rate at these days?
What about serious case rate?
Is it waning?
Local MD colleges are not shutting anything down with sysmptoms- or requiring a test right now. They just make the student/faculty stay home for 2 weeks and return after your quarantine.
31,629,960
Deaths:
971,800
Recovered:
23,225,357
My guess is that the 5% will continue to trend down but with a second onset, it remains to be seen by how much if at all. Closing in on 1,000,000 dead people.
The point I believe the original question was getting at is how did these numbers changed over time with improvement of treatment?
I also wonder how many resolved cases were never reported? Or not even diagnosed? Again, from NYS data it would appear that the number as a percentage of resolved has decreased tremendously.
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as your earlier science article alluded to in other aspects, the numbers we throw around nowadays are complete trash. they probably hurt in many cases.Bart wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:19 pmYou are a sage! It already has............total resolved cases (971800 + 23225257 = 24,197,157) Total dead as a percentage of resolved cases (971800/24197157 = 0.04)!!! Just funnin ya here.....I get the original approx.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:03 pmCoronavirus Cases:Bart wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:33 pmIn nys just yesterday there were 754 new cases. That means using your data approx, there should be 37 deaths out of this and 716 resolved recoveries. NYS has not had a death total, that I can remember from Andy's tweets, above 10 for quite some time. Do you think they might be underestimating/reporting the number of resolved cases? Yes I know there is a lag but the number of new cases has been fairly consistent for quite some time. Right around 1% of testing.jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am... in the US there are currently 5 deaths per 95 recoveries, approx. 5% of resolved cases.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:15 am What's the fatality rate at these days?
What about serious case rate?
Is it waning?
Local MD colleges are not shutting anything down with sysmptoms- or requiring a test right now. They just make the student/faculty stay home for 2 weeks and return after your quarantine.
31,629,960
Deaths:
971,800
Recovered:
23,225,357
My guess is that the 5% will continue to trend down but with a second onset, it remains to be seen by how much if at all. Closing in on 1,000,000 dead people.
The point I believe the original question was getting at is how did these numbers changed over time with improvement of treatment?
I also wonder how many resolved cases were never reported? Or not even diagnosed? Again, from NYS data it would appear that the number as a percentage of resolved has decreased tremendously.
hospitalizations and deaths.
take all others with a very large grain of salt and try to find context and trends and why.
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I believe early on there were a lot more. I am sure, even now, there are plenty of cases that go unreported or better undetected. 1,000,000 dead people is a lot.Bart wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:19 pmYou are a sage! It already has............total resolved cases (971800 + 23225257 = 24,197,157) Total dead as a percentage of resolved cases (971800/24197157 = 0.04)!!! Just funnin ya here.....I get the original approx.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:03 pmCoronavirus Cases:Bart wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:33 pmIn nys just yesterday there were 754 new cases. That means using your data approx, there should be 37 deaths out of this and 716 resolved recoveries. NYS has not had a death total, that I can remember from Andy's tweets, above 10 for quite some time. Do you think they might be underestimating/reporting the number of resolved cases? Yes I know there is a lag but the number of new cases has been fairly consistent for quite some time. Right around 1% of testing.jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am... in the US there are currently 5 deaths per 95 recoveries, approx. 5% of resolved cases.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:15 am What's the fatality rate at these days?
What about serious case rate?
Is it waning?
Local MD colleges are not shutting anything down with sysmptoms- or requiring a test right now. They just make the student/faculty stay home for 2 weeks and return after your quarantine.
31,629,960
Deaths:
971,800
Recovered:
23,225,357
My guess is that the 5% will continue to trend down but with a second onset, it remains to be seen by how much if at all. Closing in on 1,000,000 dead people.
The point I believe the original question was getting at is how did these numbers changed over time with improvement of treatment?
I also wonder how many resolved cases were never reported? Or not even diagnosed? Again, from NYS data it would appear that the number as a percentage of resolved has decreased tremendously.
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about the most honest post evah. (in bold) meaning, nah, proving FEAR Porn isn't good at mathRedFromMI wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:22 amhttps://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trum ... death-tollTrump Falsely Claims COVID Affects ‘Virtually Nobody’ Who’s Young Despite Near 20K Death Toll
Above article is wrong. Number should be 92.Trump painted the virus as something that only really impacts elderly people “with heart problems and other problems” but “nobody young.”
“Below the age of 18, like nobody. They have a strong immune system,” the President said. “Who knows? Take your hat off to the young, because they have a hell of an immune system.”
“But it affects virtually nobody,” he added. “It’s an amazing thing.”
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), COVID-19 had caused the death of 19,295 Americans between the ages of 0 to 17 by September 12.
How many rowers, x-c, and swim team college athletes have DIED? Lacrosse players with NO preexisting conditions?
In other words....don't be obese. Be able to travel a mile in 10 minutes, or obviously, less.
Isn't survival a thing, taught in school. You know, of the fittest. JHU72 LOVES to use the "shallow end of the gene pool" and would literally rejoice in the death of certain people . Myself included. (what is it about Hopkins lack of compassion??) Embrace the shallow end of the gene pools demise. Or, rather, end.
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SOURCE.........otherwize.....it's junkjhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am... in the US there are currently 5 deaths per 95 recoveries, approx. 5% of resolved cases.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:15 am What's the fatality rate at these days?
What about serious case rate?
Is it waning?
Local MD colleges are not shutting anything down with sysmptoms- or requiring a test right now. They just make the student/faculty stay home for 2 weeks and return after your quarantine.
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ihme taking the under on ihme! that was quick. i kid, of course, and they must adapt, but just personally i can't take them seriously.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:06 pm Ask not what your country can do to protect you, but what you can do to keep Trump in office!
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they do stick with the mask input, though, just a very large thumb on the scale @ univ of washington.
here's to them being wrong on the low side, whatever brings that about.
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nothing close to Danny Macaskill, but pretty damn good "technical" bike rider. Helmet ain't gonna save me from all the criminals texting and driving, now is it.foreverlax wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:47 amWhy in the world would you make that your habit?
The risk of falling and getting a concussion would be the best thing that happens. sheesh.
Here is Danny.......his video's are wonderful feasts for the soul and senses. Remarkable what humans can do
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No big deal.wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:40 pmihme taking the under on ihme! that was quick. i kid, of course, and they must adapt, but just personally i can't take them seriously.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:06 pm Ask not what your country can do to protect you, but what you can do to keep Trump in office!
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they do stick with the mask input, though, just a very large thumb on the scale @ univ of washington.
here's to them being wrong on the low side, whatever brings that about.
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In terms of national population, the U.S. has seen more than 60 deaths per 100,000 people – slightly higher than the death rate in Mexico and lower than in Spain, Brazil, Chile, Bolivia and Peru, according to a mortality analysis by Johns Hopkins University's Coronavirus Resource Center.
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Never said it wasn’tTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:31 pmI believe early on there were a lot more. I am sure, even now, there are plenty of cases that go unreported or better undetected. 1,000,000 dead people is a lot.Bart wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:19 pmYou are a sage! It already has............total resolved cases (971800 + 23225257 = 24,197,157) Total dead as a percentage of resolved cases (971800/24197157 = 0.04)!!! Just funnin ya here.....I get the original approx.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:03 pmCoronavirus Cases:Bart wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:33 pmIn nys just yesterday there were 754 new cases. That means using your data approx, there should be 37 deaths out of this and 716 resolved recoveries. NYS has not had a death total, that I can remember from Andy's tweets, above 10 for quite some time. Do you think they might be underestimating/reporting the number of resolved cases? Yes I know there is a lag but the number of new cases has been fairly consistent for quite some time. Right around 1% of testing.jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am... in the US there are currently 5 deaths per 95 recoveries, approx. 5% of resolved cases.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:15 am What's the fatality rate at these days?
What about serious case rate?
Is it waning?
Local MD colleges are not shutting anything down with sysmptoms- or requiring a test right now. They just make the student/faculty stay home for 2 weeks and return after your quarantine.
31,629,960
Deaths:
971,800
Recovered:
23,225,357
My guess is that the 5% will continue to trend down but with a second onset, it remains to be seen by how much if at all. Closing in on 1,000,000 dead people.
The point I believe the original question was getting at is how did these numbers changed over time with improvement of treatment?
I also wonder how many resolved cases were never reported? Or not even diagnosed? Again, from NYS data it would appear that the number as a percentage of resolved has decreased tremendously.
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I was just pointing it out.....Not that you suggested the death count wasn’t meaningful. One of the shortcomings of keyboard communications.Bart wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:49 pmNever said it wasn’tTypical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:31 pmI believe early on there were a lot more. I am sure, even now, there are plenty of cases that go unreported or better undetected. 1,000,000 dead people is a lot.Bart wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:19 pmYou are a sage! It already has............total resolved cases (971800 + 23225257 = 24,197,157) Total dead as a percentage of resolved cases (971800/24197157 = 0.04)!!! Just funnin ya here.....I get the original approx.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:03 pmCoronavirus Cases:Bart wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:33 pmIn nys just yesterday there were 754 new cases. That means using your data approx, there should be 37 deaths out of this and 716 resolved recoveries. NYS has not had a death total, that I can remember from Andy's tweets, above 10 for quite some time. Do you think they might be underestimating/reporting the number of resolved cases? Yes I know there is a lag but the number of new cases has been fairly consistent for quite some time. Right around 1% of testing.jhu72 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am... in the US there are currently 5 deaths per 95 recoveries, approx. 5% of resolved cases.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:15 am What's the fatality rate at these days?
What about serious case rate?
Is it waning?
Local MD colleges are not shutting anything down with sysmptoms- or requiring a test right now. They just make the student/faculty stay home for 2 weeks and return after your quarantine.
31,629,960
Deaths:
971,800
Recovered:
23,225,357
My guess is that the 5% will continue to trend down but with a second onset, it remains to be seen by how much if at all. Closing in on 1,000,000 dead people.
The point I believe the original question was getting at is how did these numbers changed over time with improvement of treatment?
I also wonder how many resolved cases were never reported? Or not even diagnosed? Again, from NYS data it would appear that the number as a percentage of resolved has decreased tremendously.
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It didn’t have to be nearly this bad. There is no way on Earth that a virus should ever be the second leading cause of death in the United States.
Covid-19 is now the second-leading cause of death in the US, just after heart disease, according to the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME).
What happens next with the pandemic largely depends on personal responsibility and how much Americans are willing to fight this battle together.
Already, Covid-19 has killed more people in the US than Americans killed in battle during the five most recent wars combined: the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Iraq War, the War in Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf War.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/22/health/u ... index.html
I know many support Trump because he’s an ignorant, racist, bigoted, misogynistic piece of trash like them. But is one’s ignorance, racism, bigotry, and misogyny worth the deaths of so many people?
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Covid-19 is now the second-leading cause of death in the US, just after heart disease, according to the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME).
What happens next with the pandemic largely depends on personal responsibility and how much Americans are willing to fight this battle together.
Already, Covid-19 has killed more people in the US than Americans killed in battle during the five most recent wars combined: the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Iraq War, the War in Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf War.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/22/health/u ... index.html
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