2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[seacoaster]

Why isn’t it enough to know the Russians favor Trump, to vote for Biden?

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/09/17 ... ticleShare

“Christopher Wray, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, said during a House Homeland Security committee hearing on Thursday that Joseph R. Biden Jr. was the primary target of Russia’s ongoing online disinformation campaigns.

Mr. Wray said that while Russia has not successfully hacked any election systems, the influence campaign on social media has sought to raise skepticism of the Democratic candidate.

“We certainly have seen very active, very active efforts by the Russians to influence our election in 2020,” Mr. Wray said on Thursday. “An effort to both sow divisiveness and discord, and I think the intelligence community has assessed this publicly, to primarily to denigrate Vice President Biden in what the Russians see as a kind of an anti-Russian establishment.”

Mr. Wray’s comments echoed a statement made by last month by William R. Evanina, the director of the National Counterintelligence and Security Center, who said Russia has used a range of techniques to target Mr. Biden. China has also sought to influence American politics, intelligence officials have said, although Russia presents a much more immediate threat.

While Mr. Wray and Mr. Evanina issued blunt warnings of the Russian disinformation campaign, Attorney General William P. Barr has been less forceful. Asked on CNN earlier this month if he accepted that Russia was attempting to interfere in the election, Mr. Barr said, “I accept that there is some preliminary activity that suggests that they might try again.”

The Department of Homeland Security was also scrutinized earlier this month after it emerged that the agency declined to publish a July 9 intelligence document warning of Russian attempts to denigrate Mr. Biden’s mental health. That bulletin also warned of China and Iran’s efforts to target Mr. Trump. At the time, the acting secretary of Homeland Security, Chad F. Wolf, said he questioned the quality of the report and sent it back for revision.

An updated version of the bulletin dated Sept. 4 obtained by The Times still includes warnings of Russia’s efforts to target Mr. Biden with additional details on how the nation’s tactics compare to China and Iran.

“Iranian and Chinese overt influence actors have promoted unsubstantiated narratives that question the mental health of President Trump,” analysts said in the bulletin. “These efforts probably fall short of Russia’s more sustained, coordinated malign influence operations across multiple overt and covert platforms to undermine other U.S. politicians.”

[MDlaxfan76]

well, we do of course know the answers to that one.

It's just that they're very ugly answers.

[seacoaster]

This happens a lot:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... g-news-bar

"President Trump’s response to the coronavirus pandemic showed a “flat out disregard for human life” because his “main concern was the economy and his reelection,” according to a senior adviser on the White House coronavirus task force who left the White House in August.

Olivia Troye, who worked as homeland security, counterterrorism and coronavirus adviser to Vice President Pence for two years, said that the administration’s response cost lives and that she will vote for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden this fall because of her experience in the Trump White House.

“The president’s rhetoric and his own attacks against people in his administration trying to do the work, as well as the promulgation of false narratives and incorrect information of the virus have made this ongoing response a failure,” she said in an interview.

The latest on the coronavirus pandemic and the Trump administration’s response

Troye is the first Trump administration official who worked extensively on the coronavirus response to forcefully speak out against Trump and his handling of the pandemic. But she joins a growing number of former officials, including former national security adviser John Bolton and former defense secretary Jim Mattis, who have detailed their worries about what happened during their time in the administration while declaring that Trump is unfit to be president.

The amount of criticism Trump has faced from former aides is unprecedented in the modern presidency, and it could pose a political risk to his reelection campaign as some of the aides who have spoken out are pressuring other former colleagues to join them.

The White House dismissed Troye as a disgruntled former employee and downplayed her role on the task force, while disputing her characterization that the pandemic response has not gone well.

“Ms. Troye is a former detailee and a career Department of Homeland Security staff member, who is disgruntled that her detail was cut short because she was no longer capable of keeping up with her day-to-day duties,” Lt. General Keith Kellogg, Pence’s national security adviser, said in a statement. “Ms. Troye directly reported to me, and never once during her detail did she every express any concern regarding the Administration’s response to the Coronavirus to anyone in her chain of command. By not expressing her concerns, she demonstrated an incredible lack of moral courage.”

White House spokesman Judd Deere said that Troye’s “assertions have no basis in reality and are flat out inaccurate” and that “the truth is President Trump always put the well-being of the American people first,” citing the president’s efforts to produce medical equipment, his early social distancing recommendations and the plan to produce a vaccine quickly.

Troye had an inside view of the White House’s pandemic response, which polls show is hurting the president with voters, and her review of the effort is scathing. She said in an interview that she would be skeptical of any vaccine produced ahead of the election because of worries its release was due to political pressure.

“I would not tell anyone I care about to take a vaccine that launches prior to the election,” she said. “I would listen to the experts and the unity in pharma. And I would wait to make sure that this vaccine is safe and not a prop tied to an election.”

Though Troye played a behind-the-scenes role during her time in the White House, she was a major participant in the task force’s work, attending and helping to organize “every single meeting” it held from February until July, she said. She worked closely with Pence on the administration’s response, including establishing an agenda for each meeting, preparing the vice president and arranging briefings for him, writing and editing his comments and dealing with the vice president’s political aides.

She was often pictured sitting against the back wall of the Situation Room near Pence in photos posted to social media. Her assistant would send the seating chart to officials across the administration, who in turn would consult with her about the workings of the group and Pence.

She described herself as a lifelong Republican who voted for every one of the party’s nominees before 2016. Troye did not vote for Trump because she didn’t like his rhetoric. She declined to say whom she voted for in the last election.

“But I got past it and accepted he was our president,” Troye, 43, said of the election result.

Troye said that she worked in the administration because she hoped Trump would morph into a stronger leader after a divisive campaign and that she had respect for other Trump officials, such as Pence.

“I still have a lot of respect for the vice president,” she said. “I worked very loyally for him to do everything I could for him. I don’t want this to become a speaking-out-against-him thing.”

[DocBarrister]

The former Pence advisor discussed in the article posted by seacoaster above reports many shocking things.

Most shocking? Trump called his own supporters “disgusting people.”

At one coronavirus task force meeting, Troye claimed that Trump suggested "maybe this Covid thing is a good thing."

"I don't like shaking hands with people. I don't have to shake hands with these disgusting people," Troye claimed Trump said at the meeting.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/politics ... index.html

DocBarrister

[cradleandshoot]

It looks like for this election for POTUS the American people will have to go by which candidate the rooskies and the chicoms endorse.

[Peter Brown]

It looks like for this election for POTUS the American people will have to go by which candidate the rooskies and the chicoms endorse.

Our media is doing everything they can to elect the Dem, mostly because many see themselves in a Democratic administration.

[Typical Lax Dad]

[Peter Brown]

There is an INCREDIBLE gap between Republicans and Democrats in their respective enthusiasm to vote this year.

Watch how this decides the election.

Dems don't want to discuss the obvious.

You boys are going to be hurting 11-4, hoping that some miracle three week old non-stamp dated ballots come in. Your fraud will be defeated by SCOTUS.

[Matnum PI]

Antifa, Russia...

https://flip.it/Zs3PBi

[a fan]

Antifa, Russia...

https://flip.it/Zs3PBi

Pfffft. He's in on it, too. DeepStater.

[a fan]

You boys are going to be hurting 11-4, hoping that some miracle three week old non-stamp dated ballots come in. Your fraud will be defeated by SCOTUS.

And TrumpLand's woes start on 11-5. Wanna laugh at them together, Pete? Because they're F'ed unless Trump passes some serious new laws.

That's the sad, yet hilarious thing about TrumpFans. They can't win.

If Biden wins, they'll think they lost the culture war----which they haven't, of course, but good luck telling them that.

If Trump wins, they'll sink into further economic irrelevance. Which is what actually matters in their lives.

Wanna get away from the libs? Stay off the TV, and social media. You'll never have to deal with them ever again.

[njbill]

There is an INCREDIBLE gap between Republicans and Democrats in their respective enthusiasm to vote this year.

I agree that in the main Trump voters are more enthusiastic about him than Biden voters are about Joe.

But 10 unenthusiastic votes for Biden beat five enthusiastic votes for Trump.

Much more importantly, by far the biggest “enthusiasm” factor in the election is voters’ desire to get rid of Trump. They may not be head over heels in love with Joe, but they will walk across hot coals for 3 miles in the pouring rain to vote Trump out of office.

Dislike, even hatred, of Hillary was a key factor in 2016, but the anti-Clinton sentiment pales in comparison to how much people detest Trump.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Heard that a drive through a conservative Ohio suburb today revealed a number of Biden-Harris and Black Lives Matter signs on lawns and on flags flying. I heard from another Ohioan last week that there are more Biden-Harris signs than there were Hillary signs and Trump support not as visible. This area is more rural. Just anecdotal stories.

Edit: Anti-Trump Republicans in divided Ohio seek votes for Biden

[RedFromMI]

Pence's lead person on the COVID-19 task force until she resigned a couple of months ago:



She will be voting for Biden.

[6ftstick]

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[njbill]

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled today that ballots received by the Friday after election day may be counted as long as they were postmarked by election day or as long as there is no indication they were mailed after that date. Ballots without postmarks will be counted if received by that Friday.

The court also ruled that drop boxes will be permitted.

Lastly, the court ruled the Green party candidate cannot appear on the ballot.

All in all, good news for Biden.

https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronav ... 00917.html

The question of early processing or counting of ballots is still up in the air. Governor Wolf wants that to begin three weeks before the election. The Republican proposal in the State Legislature is that the process may begin three days ahead of time.

[MDlaxfan76]

Pence's lead person on the COVID-19 task force until she resigned a couple of months ago:



She will be voting for Biden.

holy moly...watch and listen.

[ggait]

The question of early processing or counting of ballots is still up in the air. Governor Wolf wants that to begin three weeks before the election. The Republican proposal in the State Legislature is that the process may begin three days ahead of time.

The GOP just always does the same thing -- less democracy is what they always pick. Three days is just stupid. Just more bad faith rat-forking.

FYI, many of this cycle's swing states actually do this right.

AZ, FL, Minn, NC, NV, OH all allow votes to get counted 2-4 weeks before election day.

PA, Mich, WI all wait until election day. IA starts one day ahead. Bad.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Pence's lead person on the COVID-19 task force until she resigned a couple of months ago:



She will be voting for Biden.

holy moly...watch and listen.

Nahhh....she is upset that Hillary lost and can’t get over it.

[DocBarrister]

Anyone who watched Biden’s town hall on CNN could easily tell that Biden was sharper, more knowledgeable, and more intelligent than Donald “herd mentality” Trump.

Not even close.

DocBarrister