Orange Duce

[foreverlax]

Nothing Trump said to Woodward is newsworthy.

What is newsworthy is how any Republican would ever consider saying anything to this guy. If you’re a Republican and Woodward asks you the time of day, you’d be smart to simply smile and walk on by.

Trumps Achilles heel is his ego. He thinks he’s smarter than Woodward but Woodward knows he controls the edit button. Never agree to talks with journalists who have proven their bias. Not too difficult.

Poor Cohen. Dude releases his book and is immediately eclipsed by Woodward. The DNC’s rollout of ginned up non stories continues apace. Look how excitable the monkeys are every morning over spent peanut shells.

Trump talked to him because he considered him the gold standard of people to talk to. And Trump always thinks he can control the narrative.

But I would strenuously disagree that it was not newsworthy. Since there are tapes - there is no question what Trump was asked and how he answered. So while anyone can put their own "spin" on their interpretation, there are several statements that clearly indicate that Trump was lying to the American public about the nature of the coronavirus threat, that he divulged the existence of a nuclear weapon system no one knew about, and that he still disparaged military brass in quite crude terms.

There is plenty more. So saying that it was not newsworthy is just to put your own spin on the effort.

I'm not COMPLETELY disagreeing with you Red, but here's where you lose me: on one hand, you and other Fanlax Dems (and NeverTrumpers, and Deep State, and media...and) always say Trump is 'the dumbest guy in the universe', but here, you claim that whatever he tells Woodward he knows what he's saying.

I don't think Trump is some master chess player...on many matters he's nothing more than a bluffer.

On issues like the 'Rona (where you guys think Woodward outed him), Trump just verbal-vomited whatever came to his mind and he hoped Woodward would simply move along to the next subject. You can hear it in Trump's voice; he's scrambling for ideas as he's talking. It's how he often talks. I doubt he knew anything about the 'Rona; I doubt he knows much more today to be frank. This is why you can never pin this guy on anything...his entire schtick has been evasion and non-ownership. You guys keep trying to hammer jello into a wall and it never makes him look bad; it only makes his accusers look foolish.

And yet you are fine with him winning a second term....

...because of who dislikes him. This is easy for me and millions more. So to be clear, you support Trump because of the people who don't support him.

Also, in no universe could I possibly reward the Democratic Party for their leftward lurch into anti-American nihilism, anarchy, and abject socialism. Trump isn't a peach, that's for sure, but he's not burning down small business buildings across America. So you support Trump's policys, beyond judges and his f'ing wall.

Trump's enemies are normal Americans' enemies. What does this mean? Try to be specific. His are the worst we have. I can run down the list if you;d like, but let's start with Bill Kristol and David Frum.

I support America, no particular politician or all of his/her policies Same, and I'd say no party has me completely covered.(maybe excepting Kirsti Noem, because she would be the best looking POTUS of any country in all history, and unlike some here, I am thoroughly red-blooded)

[CU88]

DEPLORABLE

"I saved his ass," Trump had said amid the US outcry following Khashoggi's murder, the book says. "I was able to get Congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop."

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-w ... age-2020-9

[old salt]

Rittenhouse illegally carried a gun to a protest and used it to kill two people and injure a third.

...acting in self defense.

https://abc7chicago.com/kenosha-shootin ... e/6406156/

His attorneys in the double murder case maintain that Rittenhouse did not bring the assault-style rifle from Illinois to Wisconsin prior to last month's killings. They say the rifle was owned legally by a Wisconsin friend and handed over to Rittenhouse the afternoon of the killings as he and a friend tried to help police defend Kenosha businesses that came under siege by looters and vandals. They maintain under Wisconsin law it is legal for the friend, not a minor, to have provided the rifle to Rittenhouse.

Rittenhouse is charged with possession of a dangerous weapon, not with transport across state lines or possession of a stolen or illegal weapon.

Further, Rittenhouse's attorneys contend that he never crossed the Illinois border at all that day because he had slept at a friend's place the previous evening so he could go to work as a Kenosha pool lifeguard.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/kyle- ... -of-worms/

...what about the misdemeanor charge of possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18?

Rittenhouse’s attorney has been saying that he possessed the rifle he used that night in Kenosha lawfully, even as a seventeen year-old, despite a law seemingly forbidding it.

Was Kyle Rittenhouse’s possession of a gun protected by the Second Amendment?

Rittenhouse’s attorney, John Pierce of Pierce Bainbridge, plans to fight the underage weapons possession charge, arguing that at 17, his client could be part of the “well regulated Militia” mentioned in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Put another way, Pierce will likely argue that Wisconsin’s ban on firearms possession by 17-year-olds is unconstitutional because a 17-year-old minor is on the same Second Amendment footing as an adult.

In fact, the reason Mr. Pierce claims that a seventeen year-old could be in the militia is that current federal law says so.

10 U.S. Code § 246 – Militia: composition and class

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

[MDlaxfan76]

repeat, illegally.

And took it to a protest and bragged about it...

What could go wrong...

But go ahead and defend it, we need more 'heroes' like this stupid kid.

[MDlaxfan76]

DEPLORABLE

"I saved his ass," Trump had said amid the US outcry following Khashoggi's murder, the book says. "I was able to get Congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop."

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-w ... age-2020-9

won't even raise an eyebrow with our Trumpist apologists and trolls...

[Peter Brown]

repeat, illegally.

And took it to a protest and bragged about it...

What could go wrong...

But go ahead and defend it, we need more 'heroes' like this stupid kid.

Kyle Rittenhouse is an American hero

[old salt]

repeat, illegally.

And took it to a protest and bragged about it...

What could go wrong...

But go ahead and defend it, we need more 'heroes' like this stupid kid.

So convict him of misdemeanor possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.

What could go wrong ? While protecting a friend's business & rendering medical aid to protesters, having harmed no one, he could be pursued by 3 violent felon ex-cons intent of inflicting great bodily harm or worse.

Have you noticed the high powered lawyers rallying to his pro bono defense. He has a strong defense.

[Peter Brown]

repeat, illegally.

And took it to a protest and bragged about it...

What could go wrong...

But go ahead and defend it, we need more 'heroes' like this stupid kid.

So convict him of misdemeanor possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.

What could go wrong ? While protecting a friend's business & rendering medical aid to protesters, having harmed no one, he could be pursued by 3 violent felon ex-cons intent of inflicting great bodily harm or worse.

Have you noticed the high powered lawyers rallying to his pro bono defense. He has a strong defense.

TDS will cause even half-sane humans like MD to claim Kyle is a murderer.

Your take, OS, is exactly correct, full stop. Self defense, there is zero doubt when you see the videos. And they would have killed him.

[ToastDunk]

repeat, illegally.

And took it to a protest and bragged about it...

What could go wrong...

But go ahead and defend it, we need more 'heroes' like this stupid kid.

So convict him of misdemeanor possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.

What could go wrong ? While protecting a friend's business & rendering medical aid to protesters, having harmed no one, he could be pursued by 3 violent felon ex-cons intent of inflicting great bodily harm or worse.

Have you noticed the high powered lawyers rallying to his pro bono defense. He has a strong defense.

A 17 year old running around our streets legally brandishing a firearm... We are not the greatest country in the world.

[a fan]

Have you noticed the high powered lawyers rallying to his pro bono defense. He has a strong defense.

Yes, he has a strong legal defense. Which will encourage more of this stupidity. As will the asinine hero worship.

[seacoaster]

Rittenhouse illegally carried a gun to a protest and used it to kill two people and injure a third.

...acting in self defense.

https://abc7chicago.com/kenosha-shootin ... e/6406156/

His attorneys in the double murder case maintain that Rittenhouse did not bring the assault-style rifle from Illinois to Wisconsin prior to last month's killings. They say the rifle was owned legally by a Wisconsin friend and handed over to Rittenhouse the afternoon of the killings as he and a friend tried to help police defend Kenosha businesses that came under siege by looters and vandals. They maintain under Wisconsin law it is legal for the friend, not a minor, to have provided the rifle to Rittenhouse.

Rittenhouse is charged with possession of a dangerous weapon, not with transport across state lines or possession of a stolen or illegal weapon.

Further, Rittenhouse's attorneys contend that he never crossed the Illinois border at all that day because he had slept at a friend's place the previous evening so he could go to work as a Kenosha pool lifeguard.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/kyle- ... -of-worms/

...what about the misdemeanor charge of possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18?

Rittenhouse’s attorney has been saying that he possessed the rifle he used that night in Kenosha lawfully, even as a seventeen year-old, despite a law seemingly forbidding it.

Was Kyle Rittenhouse’s possession of a gun protected by the Second Amendment?

Rittenhouse’s attorney, John Pierce of Pierce Bainbridge, plans to fight the underage weapons possession charge, arguing that at 17, his client could be part of the “well regulated Militia” mentioned in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Put another way, Pierce will likely argue that Wisconsin’s ban on firearms possession by 17-year-olds is unconstitutional because a 17-year-old minor is on the same Second Amendment footing as an adult.

In fact, the reason Mr. Pierce claims that a seventeen year-old could be in the militia is that current federal law says so.

10 U.S. Code § 246 – Militia: composition and class

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

Part of a well-regulated militia? It cannot be that simple.

[ggait]

Trump just now:

"I watched Liz McDonald. She's fantastic. I watched Fox Business. I watched Lou Dobbs last night, Sean Hannity last night, Tucker last night, Laura. I watched Fox & Friends in the morning."

Dayum. How does the guy manage to fit in any time for golf? He is busy busy BUSY!

[youthathletics]

Rittenhouse illegally carried a gun to a protest and used it to kill two people and injure a third.

...acting in self defense.

https://abc7chicago.com/kenosha-shootin ... e/6406156/

His attorneys in the double murder case maintain that Rittenhouse did not bring the assault-style rifle from Illinois to Wisconsin prior to last month's killings. They say the rifle was owned legally by a Wisconsin friend and handed over to Rittenhouse the afternoon of the killings as he and a friend tried to help police defend Kenosha businesses that came under siege by looters and vandals. They maintain under Wisconsin law it is legal for the friend, not a minor, to have provided the rifle to Rittenhouse.

Rittenhouse is charged with possession of a dangerous weapon, not with transport across state lines or possession of a stolen or illegal weapon.

Further, Rittenhouse's attorneys contend that he never crossed the Illinois border at all that day because he had slept at a friend's place the previous evening so he could go to work as a Kenosha pool lifeguard.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/kyle- ... -of-worms/

...what about the misdemeanor charge of possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18?

Rittenhouse’s attorney has been saying that he possessed the rifle he used that night in Kenosha lawfully, even as a seventeen year-old, despite a law seemingly forbidding it.

Was Kyle Rittenhouse’s possession of a gun protected by the Second Amendment?

Rittenhouse’s attorney, John Pierce of Pierce Bainbridge, plans to fight the underage weapons possession charge, arguing that at 17, his client could be part of the “well regulated Militia” mentioned in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Put another way, Pierce will likely argue that Wisconsin’s ban on firearms possession by 17-year-olds is unconstitutional because a 17-year-old minor is on the same Second Amendment footing as an adult.

In fact, the reason Mr. Pierce claims that a seventeen year-old could be in the militia is that current federal law says so.

10 U.S. Code § 246 – Militia: composition and class

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

Part of a well-regulated militia? It cannot be that simple.

I brought that up as a question a week or two ago. I believe that attorney took the case pro bono as well.

[DMac]

A 17 year old running around our streets legally brandishing a firearm....

Which is the crux of the issue, all the rest is legalese, schmegalease, fershnizzlease and frontier gibberease. It's been quoted/said here, if you're going somewhere where you need to take your gun, don't go there (something like that anyway). End of story, same goes for those with knives and other weapons of choice. There's no defending these people's actions, their behavior is completely unacceptable. If this is the hill they choose to die on, well....
As the Reverend of Rock Ridge says, "Order. Order, goddamnit, I said ORDER". We need some order in the streets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNC3OciAF3w

[DocBarrister]

repeat, illegally.

And took it to a protest and bragged about it...

What could go wrong...

But go ahead and defend it, we need more 'heroes' like this stupid kid.

So convict him of misdemeanor possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18.

What could go wrong ? While protecting a friend's business & rendering medical aid to protesters, having harmed no one, he could be pursued by 3 violent felon ex-cons intent of inflicting great bodily harm or worse.

Have you noticed the high powered lawyers rallying to his pro bono defense. He has a strong defense.

TDS will cause even half-sane humans like MD to claim Kyle is a murderer.

Your take, OS, is exactly correct, full stop. Self defense, there is zero doubt when you see the videos. And they would have killed him.

Does everyone see how easily and casually Trump’s supporters justify and excuse the killing of protesters?

If Trump refuses to leave office after losing the election and then orders DHS paramilitary troopers to violently suppress protests, killing thousands of peaceful protesters, does anyone here doubt that Trump supporters would find a way to justify and excuse those killings, too?

DocBarrister

[DocBarrister]

Rittenhouse illegally carried a gun to a protest and used it to kill two people and injure a third.

...acting in self defense.

https://abc7chicago.com/kenosha-shootin ... e/6406156/

His attorneys in the double murder case maintain that Rittenhouse did not bring the assault-style rifle from Illinois to Wisconsin prior to last month's killings. They say the rifle was owned legally by a Wisconsin friend and handed over to Rittenhouse the afternoon of the killings as he and a friend tried to help police defend Kenosha businesses that came under siege by looters and vandals. They maintain under Wisconsin law it is legal for the friend, not a minor, to have provided the rifle to Rittenhouse.

Rittenhouse is charged with possession of a dangerous weapon, not with transport across state lines or possession of a stolen or illegal weapon.

Further, Rittenhouse's attorneys contend that he never crossed the Illinois border at all that day because he had slept at a friend's place the previous evening so he could go to work as a Kenosha pool lifeguard.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/kyle- ... -of-worms/

...what about the misdemeanor charge of possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18?

Rittenhouse’s attorney has been saying that he possessed the rifle he used that night in Kenosha lawfully, even as a seventeen year-old, despite a law seemingly forbidding it.

Was Kyle Rittenhouse’s possession of a gun protected by the Second Amendment?

Rittenhouse’s attorney, John Pierce of Pierce Bainbridge, plans to fight the underage weapons possession charge, arguing that at 17, his client could be part of the “well regulated Militia” mentioned in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Put another way, Pierce will likely argue that Wisconsin’s ban on firearms possession by 17-year-olds is unconstitutional because a 17-year-old minor is on the same Second Amendment footing as an adult.

In fact, the reason Mr. Pierce claims that a seventeen year-old could be in the militia is that current federal law says so.

10 U.S. Code § 246 – Militia: composition and class

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

Part of a well-regulated militia? It cannot be that simple.

A well-regulated militia in this case would be one assembled, sanctioned, and controlled by the government of the state of Wisconsin or the federal government. Because no national militia has been called up utilizing the reserves defined by the quoted U.S. code section above, the accused murderer, Rittenhouse, was not part of any well-regulated militia when he shot his three victims, killing two of them.

A well-regulated militia is not a private, armed vigilante group that is in no way sanctioned by the state or federal governments.

Seriously, we need more civics lessons in our schools, because too much of the far right is as ignorant as a door stop.

DocBarrister

[old salt]

Rittenhouse illegally carried a gun to a protest and used it to kill two people and injure a third.

...acting in self defense.

https://abc7chicago.com/kenosha-shootin ... e/6406156/

His attorneys in the double murder case maintain that Rittenhouse did not bring the assault-style rifle from Illinois to Wisconsin prior to last month's killings. They say the rifle was owned legally by a Wisconsin friend and handed over to Rittenhouse the afternoon of the killings as he and a friend tried to help police defend Kenosha businesses that came under siege by looters and vandals. They maintain under Wisconsin law it is legal for the friend, not a minor, to have provided the rifle to Rittenhouse.

Rittenhouse is charged with possession of a dangerous weapon, not with transport across state lines or possession of a stolen or illegal weapon.

Further, Rittenhouse's attorneys contend that he never crossed the Illinois border at all that day because he had slept at a friend's place the previous evening so he could go to work as a Kenosha pool lifeguard.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/kyle- ... -of-worms/

...what about the misdemeanor charge of possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18?

Rittenhouse’s attorney has been saying that he possessed the rifle he used that night in Kenosha lawfully, even as a seventeen year-old, despite a law seemingly forbidding it.

Was Kyle Rittenhouse’s possession of a gun protected by the Second Amendment?

Rittenhouse’s attorney, John Pierce of Pierce Bainbridge, plans to fight the underage weapons possession charge, arguing that at 17, his client could be part of the “well regulated Militia” mentioned in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Put another way, Pierce will likely argue that Wisconsin’s ban on firearms possession by 17-year-olds is unconstitutional because a 17-year-old minor is on the same Second Amendment footing as an adult.

In fact, the reason Mr. Pierce claims that a seventeen year-old could be in the militia is that current federal law says so.

10 U.S. Code § 246 – Militia: composition and class

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

Part of a well-regulated militia? It cannot be that simple.

A well-regulated militia in this case would be one assembled, sanctioned, and controlled by the government of the state of Wisconsin or the federal government. Because no national militia has been called up utilizing the reserves defined by the quoted U.S. code section above, the accused murderer, Rittenhouse, was not part of any well-regulated militia when he shot his three victims, killing two of them.

A well-regulated militia is not a private, armed vigilante group that is in no way sanctioned by the state or federal governments.

Seriously, we need more civics lessons in our schools, because too much of the far right is as ignorant as a door stop.

DocBarrister

It was just a matter of time. If the rioting continues to be tolerated & encouraged, there will be more armed vigilantes, & they won't be minors.
It is inevitable. It's past time for the police to be allowed to restore order, with the help of a well regulated militia when needed.
Rioters, looters & protesters who assault, must be arrested, charged, detained & prosecuted, or they will continue.

[DocBarrister]

Rittenhouse illegally carried a gun to a protest and used it to kill two people and injure a third.

...acting in self defense.

https://abc7chicago.com/kenosha-shootin ... e/6406156/

His attorneys in the double murder case maintain that Rittenhouse did not bring the assault-style rifle from Illinois to Wisconsin prior to last month's killings. They say the rifle was owned legally by a Wisconsin friend and handed over to Rittenhouse the afternoon of the killings as he and a friend tried to help police defend Kenosha businesses that came under siege by looters and vandals. They maintain under Wisconsin law it is legal for the friend, not a minor, to have provided the rifle to Rittenhouse.

Rittenhouse is charged with possession of a dangerous weapon, not with transport across state lines or possession of a stolen or illegal weapon.

Further, Rittenhouse's attorneys contend that he never crossed the Illinois border at all that day because he had slept at a friend's place the previous evening so he could go to work as a Kenosha pool lifeguard.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/kyle- ... -of-worms/

...what about the misdemeanor charge of possession of a dangerous weapon by a person under 18?

Rittenhouse’s attorney has been saying that he possessed the rifle he used that night in Kenosha lawfully, even as a seventeen year-old, despite a law seemingly forbidding it.

Was Kyle Rittenhouse’s possession of a gun protected by the Second Amendment?

Rittenhouse’s attorney, John Pierce of Pierce Bainbridge, plans to fight the underage weapons possession charge, arguing that at 17, his client could be part of the “well regulated Militia” mentioned in the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Put another way, Pierce will likely argue that Wisconsin’s ban on firearms possession by 17-year-olds is unconstitutional because a 17-year-old minor is on the same Second Amendment footing as an adult.

In fact, the reason Mr. Pierce claims that a seventeen year-old could be in the militia is that current federal law says so.

10 U.S. Code § 246 – Militia: composition and class

(a) The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

Part of a well-regulated militia? It cannot be that simple.

A well-regulated militia in this case would be one assembled, sanctioned, and controlled by the government of the state of Wisconsin or the federal government. Because no national militia has been called up utilizing the reserves defined by the quoted U.S. code section above, the accused murderer, Rittenhouse, was not part of any well-regulated militia when he shot his three victims, killing two of them.

A well-regulated militia is not a private, armed vigilante group that is in no way sanctioned by the state or federal governments.

Seriously, we need more civics lessons in our schools, because too much of the far right is as ignorant as a door stop.

DocBarrister

It was just a matter of time. If the rioting continues to be tolerated & encouraged, there will be more armed vigilantes, & they won't be minors.
It is inevitable. It's past time for the police to be allowed to restore order, with the help of a well regulated militia when needed.
Rioters, looters & protesters who assault, must be arrested, charged, detained & prosecuted, or they will continue.

You’re a loon.

DocBarrister

[ardilla secreta]

Trump just now:

"I watched Liz McDonald. She's fantastic. I watched Fox Business. I watched Lou Dobbs last night, Sean Hannity last night, Tucker last night, Laura. I watched Fox & Friends in the morning."

Dayum. How does the guy manage to fit in any time for golf? He is busy busy BUSY!

Hardest working president ever. And he still finds time to polish off a bag of cheese puffs. Incredible.

[seacoaster]

Trump just now:

"I watched Liz McDonald. She's fantastic. I watched Fox Business. I watched Lou Dobbs last night, Sean Hannity last night, Tucker last night, Laura. I watched Fox & Friends in the morning."

Dayum. How does the guy manage to fit in any time for golf? He is busy busy BUSY!

Hardest working president ever. And he still finds time to polish off a bag of cheese puffs. Incredible.

And use Air Force-1 as the backdrop for a remarkable litany of lies on the campaign trail. Hail Dear Leader!