Sheesh, I knew about it because my son was in Shanghai. We knew about the virus.runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:00 amThe handful of people I know, working for Partners Health system, knew about V19 by the end of January. JANUARY. Didn't realize the POTUSA tv reality show guy was YOUR doctor.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:52 pmI've bolded and enlarged your dumb statement that "their numbers have come down because their vulnerable were killed off..."old salt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:35 pm.. They were killed off by the virus. You blame everything on Trump. When you do so, you ignore the actions of state & local leaders.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:14 pmIs that supposed to be a response to your dumb statement about killing off vulnerable people...???old salt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:38 pmhttps://www.dailysignal.com/2020/03/30/ ... -examples/MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:17 pmWhoa, did you really say that the vulnerable in NY and NJ have been killed off and that's why the numbers are down???old salt wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:06 pmUnlike Germany, S Korea, Taiwan & Japan, we did not have adequate lab capacity & contact tracing personnel or procedures in the states you name.ggait wrote: ↑Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:56 amBut there's really no excuse for AZ/TX/FL-stan. If you saw what was happening in NY/NJ-stan, your reaction shouldn't be "Re-open!" and "Where's my apology?" Instead, you should be Germany -- they saw what was happening to their neighbors, took it seriously from the beginning, and never got hit badly. Douglas MacArthur -- all failures can be summed up by two words -- Too late.It has to do with our size, dispersal, decentralized govt structure & travel patterns. We were too big, too dispersed & lacked the adequate public health infrastructure, test kits, lab capacity & ppe to do adequate contact tracing & isolation. We were playing catch up from the start.
NY/NJ-stan numbers have come down because their vulnerable were killed off, not because of superior leadership, planning or execution.
What is the case/fatality rate in AZ/TX/FL-stan compared to NY/NJ-stan ?
That may be the dumbest thing, outside of Petey's and 6ft's trolling, we've heard today.
...& the mostly peaceful protests are not super spreader events. Okie Dokie.
You can't really argue the protest=super spreader point with me Salty. I expressed concern about protestors without masks from the outset. I was pleased that the protests that were well organized appeared to have very strong mask compliance, though not total, but when things got violent there appeared to also be lower mask compliance. Definitely an issue.
But sure, there's a difference between gatherings in which most people are wearing masks and events where most people aren't, indeed in which not wearing a mask is part of giving the finger to the rest of us.
As I don't think you, yourself, are dumb, nor ignorant for that matter, I expressed surprise at that dumb statement...
If you want to argue that, oops, yes it was poor political leadership and want to include DeBlasio, I'm ok with that up to a point...did DiBlasio have the same briefings on it that Trump did???
I'm the opposite of a DiBlasio fan, btw, but let's not kid ourselves about who was briefed at what level and who was not. Previously the argument was made that Trump simply didn't know how wrong he was...now we have it in his own words, on tape, that he purposely misled the American people.
Since when is a virus "secret" ?
Please answer this question (s) :
Did POTUSA try to invoke the war powers act to make PPE stuff here, in the USA? yes or no
WHO.....stopped that process? Congress, or tRump?
The question was whether it was serious or not...I was yelling each time Trump 'downplayed' it that he was going to cost lives because his followers would actually believe him.
Trump did invoke powers, he then didn't use them. He just made noise, no action.
Congress had nothing to do with his decision to not use those powers. What did Congress do?
They dramatically increased the funding to combat the virus multiples more than Trump's request!