Orange Duce

[njbill]

That wasn’t Trump’s voice on the tape. It was John Barron’s.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Someone just texted me and asked if I thought the Woodward tapes would be the thing that finally does Trump in.

I said, nope, Trump could say today is Monday and his base would believe him. They would claim the calendar is fake news. A product of the deep state.

Sad.

No. You bozos are just being played every day.

Trump said on March 30, 2020, that he was purposely not trying to panic the country, instead encouraging optimism.

Woodward’s book is simply more dumb Dem hysteria. Everyone is selling their book before the election as a hedge.

194,000 dead Americans later....hey Peter you probably believes Trump when he tells you he won’t ____ in _____ ______

[Peter Brown]

Someone just texted me and asked if I thought the Woodward tapes would be the thing that finally does Trump in.

I said, nope, Trump could say today is Monday and his base would believe him. They would claim the calendar is fake news. A product of the deep state.

Sad.

No. You bozos are just being played every day.

Trump said on March 30, 2020, that he was purposely not trying to panic the country, instead encouraging optimism.

Woodward’s book is simply more dumb Dem hysteria. Everyone is selling their book before the election as a hedge.

194,000 dead Americans later....hey Peter you probably believes Trump when he tells you he won’t ____ in _____ ______

Have you thought this out, how you’ll be emotionally November 4 if Trump wins in a landslide? Who do you blame then?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Someone just texted me and asked if I thought the Woodward tapes would be the thing that finally does Trump in.

I said, nope, Trump could say today is Monday and his base would believe him. They would claim the calendar is fake news. A product of the deep state.

Sad.

No. You bozos are just being played every day.

Trump said on March 30, 2020, that he was purposely not trying to panic the country, instead encouraging optimism.

Woodward’s book is simply more dumb Dem hysteria. Everyone is selling their book before the election as a hedge.

194,000 dead Americans later....hey Peter you probably believes Trump when he tells you he won’t ____ in _____ ______

Have you thought this out, how you’ll be emotionally November 4 if Trump wins in a landslide? Who do you blame then?

It won’t matter to me. My life will basically be unchanged.

[CU77]

I'll just have to keep working on my drones …

[seacoaster]

Bending the entire edifice of government to serve Duce:

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/ ... 5/full.pdf

Republicans in this administration and in Congress are a disgrace.

[seacoaster]

To everyone save Pete, YA, and 6ft, she's got a point:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1303807126238683136

[MDlaxfan76]

Bending the entire edifice of government to serve Duce:

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/ ... 5/full.pdf

Republicans in this administration and in Congress are a disgrace.

Now this is truly serious.

[Unknown Participant]

Always love the lefts ‘there’s nothing he can do or say to chase his voters away’, when for the same people there’s nothing Trump can do or say to cause them to vote for him.

Trump is responsible for a couple of hundred thousand deaths due to COVID-19, due to his inaction and active negligence in seeking to ignore the problem.

Kind of hard to overcome that.

And that is not the only thing to keep people from not voting for him. There is a LONG list.

As far as his own locked in supporters - they choose to either believe his many lies, or choose to ignore them. Can't fix stupid...

Every country has been affected by this virus, which is new (in case you haven't noticed). The US has about 190,000 deaths (I think), some due to the virus and some where an otherwise unwell person died with the virus. The US is larger than most countries population wise (ex India, China, Russia (I think), maybe Indonesia/Brazil), so it would be natural for the US to have more cases than other countries (if you are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So in actuality, the response has been decent based on comparative per capita data. And, of course, this is a Republic made up of multiples states, with a constitution that limits federal power and provides many/most powers to the states (If are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So back to your point, if the Cuomo, the NY media darling, and the Govs of NJ, CT, MA had done a better job with their responses (or done nothing (which may have been better)), we would have about 50,000 or so fewer deaths and would be a world leader.

I wish I could help you be smarter, informed and objective, but I can't. You have to help yourself.

Best,

[MDlaxfan76]

Always love the lefts ‘there’s nothing he can do or say to chase his voters away’, when for the same people there’s nothing Trump can do or say to cause them to vote for him.

Trump is responsible for a couple of hundred thousand deaths due to COVID-19, due to his inaction and active negligence in seeking to ignore the problem.

Kind of hard to overcome that.

And that is not the only thing to keep people from not voting for him. There is a LONG list.

As far as his own locked in supporters - they choose to either believe his many lies, or choose to ignore them. Can't fix stupid...

Every country has been affected by this virus, which is new (in case you haven't noticed). The US has about 190,000 deaths (I think), some due to the virus and some where an otherwise unwell person died with the virus. The US is larger than most countries population wise (ex India, China, Russia (I think), maybe Indonesia/Brazil), so it would be natural for the US to have more cases than other countries (if you are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So in actuality, the response has been decent based on comparative per capita data. And, of course, this is a Republic made up of multiples states, with a constitution that limits federal power and provides many/most powers to the states (If are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So back to your point, if the Cuomo, the NY media darling, and the Govs of NJ, CT, MA had done a better job with their responses (or done nothing (which may have been better)), we would have about 50,000 or so fewer deaths and would be a world leader.

I wish I could help you be smarter, informed and objective, but I can't. You have to help yourself.

Best,

Yikes, so much that's uninformed or flat wrong in this post.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Always love the lefts ‘there’s nothing he can do or say to chase his voters away’, when for the same people there’s nothing Trump can do or say to cause them to vote for him.

Trump is responsible for a couple of hundred thousand deaths due to COVID-19, due to his inaction and active negligence in seeking to ignore the problem.

Kind of hard to overcome that.

And that is not the only thing to keep people from not voting for him. There is a LONG list.

As far as his own locked in supporters - they choose to either believe his many lies, or choose to ignore them. Can't fix stupid...

Every country has been affected by this virus, which is new (in case you haven't noticed). The US has about 190,000 deaths (I think), some due to the virus and some where an otherwise unwell person died with the virus. The US is larger than most countries population wise (ex India, China, Russia (I think), maybe Indonesia/Brazil), so it would be natural for the US to have more cases than other countries (if you are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So in actuality, the response has been decent based on comparative per capita data. And, of course, this is a Republic made up of multiples states, with a constitution that limits federal power and provides many/most powers to the states (If are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So back to your point, if the Cuomo, the NY media darling, and the Govs of NJ, CT, MA had done a better job with their responses (or done nothing (which may have been better)), we would have about 50,000 or so fewer deaths and would be a world leader.

I wish I could help you be smarter, informed and objective, but I can't. You have to help yourself.

Best,

We are punching way above our weight with deaths.

[Brooklyn]

Every country has been affected by this virus, which is new (in case you haven't noticed). The US has about 190,000 deaths (I think), some due to the virus and some where an otherwise unwell person died with the virus. The US is larger than most countries population wise (ex India, China, Russia (I think), maybe Indonesia/Brazil), so it would be natural for the US to have more cases than other countries (if you are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So in actuality, the response has been decent based on comparative per capita data. And, of course, this is a Republic made up of multiples states, with a constitution that limits federal power and provides many/most powers to the states (If are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So back to your point, if the Cuomo, the NY media darling, and the Govs of NJ, CT, MA had done a better job with their responses (or done nothing (which may have been better)), we would have about 50,000 or so fewer deaths and would be a world leader.

I wish I could help you be smarter, informed and objective, but I can't. You have to help yourself.

Best,

the response has been decent based on comparative per capita data.


As shown below, Canada's proportional effective response has been far better. While the USA population is less than 10 times Canada's population, the amount of covid deaths are 20 times more than there:









if the Cuomo, the NY media darling, and the Govs of NJ, CT, MA had done a better job with their responses (or done nothing (which may have been better)), we would have about 50,000 or so fewer deaths and would be a world leader.



As discussed before, your hero tRUMP controls the granting of visas and the CDC's power to quarantine those suspected of carrying illness into our shores. Had he not granted visas to certain infected people and had he authorized the CDC to quarantine those who carried the virus, those same 50,000 would have been saved. The governors did not grant those visas and did not hamper the CDC from doing its job. Your hero traitor tRUMP did. He is the one exclusively responsible for the deaths of our fellow Americans.

You may want to take back the remark about anyone here being "stupid".

[Typical Lax Dad]

Every country has been affected by this virus, which is new (in case you haven't noticed). The US has about 190,000 deaths (I think), some due to the virus and some where an otherwise unwell person died with the virus. The US is larger than most countries population wise (ex India, China, Russia (I think), maybe Indonesia/Brazil), so it would be natural for the US to have more cases than other countries (if you are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So in actuality, the response has been decent based on comparative per capita data. And, of course, this is a Republic made up of multiples states, with a constitution that limits federal power and provides many/most powers to the states (If are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So back to your point, if the Cuomo, the NY media darling, and the Govs of NJ, CT, MA had done a better job with their responses (or done nothing (which may have been better)), we would have about 50,000 or so fewer deaths and would be a world leader.

I wish I could help you be smarter, informed and objective, but I can't. You have to help yourself.

Best,

the response has been decent based on comparative per capita data.


As shown below, Canada's proportional effective response has been far better. While the USA population is less than 10 times Canada's population, the amount of covid deaths are 20 times more than there:









if the Cuomo, the NY media darling, and the Govs of NJ, CT, MA had done a better job with their responses (or done nothing (which may have been better)), we would have about 50,000 or so fewer deaths and would be a world leader.



As discussed before, your hero tRUMP controls the granting of visas and the CDC's power to quarantine those suspected of carrying illness into our shores. Had he not granted visas to certain infected people and had he authorized the CDC to quarantine those who carried the virus, those same 50,000 would have been saved. The governors did not grant those visas and did not hamper the CDC from doing its job. Your hero traitor tRUMP did. He is the one exclusively responsible for the deaths of our fellow Americans.

You may want to take back the remark about anyone here being "stupid".

It’s like the Flu and Trump lied.

[Unknown Participant]

Every country has been affected by this virus, which is new (in case you haven't noticed). The US has about 190,000 deaths (I think), some due to the virus and some where an otherwise unwell person died with the virus. The US is larger than most countries population wise (ex India, China, Russia (I think), maybe Indonesia/Brazil), so it would be natural for the US to have more cases than other countries (if you are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So in actuality, the response has been decent based on comparative per capita data. And, of course, this is a Republic made up of multiples states, with a constitution that limits federal power and provides many/most powers to the states (If are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So back to your point, if the Cuomo, the NY media darling, and the Govs of NJ, CT, MA had done a better job with their responses (or done nothing (which may have been better)), we would have about 50,000 or so fewer deaths and would be a world leader.

I wish I could help you be smarter, informed and objective, but I can't. You have to help yourself.

Best,

the response has been decent based on comparative per capita data.


As shown below, Canada's proportional effective response has been far better. While the USA population is less than 10 times Canada's population, the amount of covid deaths are 20 times more than there:









if the Cuomo, the NY media darling, and the Govs of NJ, CT, MA had done a better job with their responses (or done nothing (which may have been better)), we would have about 50,000 or so fewer deaths and would be a world leader.



As discussed before, your hero tRUMP controls the granting of visas and the CDC's power to quarantine those suspected of carrying illness into our shores. Had he not granted visas to certain infected people and had he authorized the CDC to quarantine those who carried the virus, those same 50,000 would have been saved. The governors did not grant those visas and did not hamper the CDC from doing its job. Your hero traitor tRUMP did. He is the one exclusively responsible for the deaths of our fellow Americans.

You may want to take back the remark about anyone here being "stupid".

No. I'm pretty comfortable with the "stupid" classification. But thanks. Perhaps I should have emphasized "objective," but what do I know? Facts are facts. Ignore them at your peril.

Best,

[RedFromMI]

Always love the lefts ‘there’s nothing he can do or say to chase his voters away’, when for the same people there’s nothing Trump can do or say to cause them to vote for him.

Trump is responsible for a couple of hundred thousand deaths due to COVID-19, due to his inaction and active negligence in seeking to ignore the problem.

Kind of hard to overcome that.

And that is not the only thing to keep people from not voting for him. There is a LONG list.

As far as his own locked in supporters - they choose to either believe his many lies, or choose to ignore them. Can't fix stupid...

Every country has been affected by this virus, which is new (in case you haven't noticed). The US has about 190,000 deaths (I think), some due to the virus and some where an otherwise unwell person died with the virus. The US is larger than most countries population wise (ex India, China, Russia (I think), maybe Indonesia/Brazil), so it would be natural for the US to have more cases than other countries (if you are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So in actuality, the response has been decent based on comparative per capita data. And, of course, this is a Republic made up of multiples states, with a constitution that limits federal power and provides many/most powers to the states (If are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So back to your point, if the Cuomo, the NY media darling, and the Govs of NJ, CT, MA had done a better job with their responses (or done nothing (which may have been better)), we would have about 50,000 or so fewer deaths and would be a world leader.

I wish I could help you be smarter, informed and objective, but I can't. You have to help yourself.

Best,

First - 195K officially on worldometer, and 30% higher likely due to undercounting.

Per capita deaths (per M):
(in order of largest raw case numbers)

US: 589 (6.5M cases, 19.3K cases/M)
India: 54 (4.5M cases, 3.2K cases/M)
Brazil: 604 (4.2M cases, 19.7K cases/M)
Russia: 124 (1.0M cases, 7.1K cases/M)
Peru: 915 (703K cases, 21.3K cases/M)
Columbia: 433 (687K cases, 13.5K cases/M)
Mexico: 525 (648K cases, 5.0K cases/M)
South Africa: 255 (642K cases, 10.8K cases/M)
Spain: 634 (543K cases, 11.6K cases/M)

These have all been hit hard at some point, and with the exception of India, have comparable numbers to the US.

But some other comparables - similar economic well being, for example:

(cases/M, deaths/M)
France: 5.3K, 472
UK: 5.3K, 612
Germany: 3.1K, 112
Israel: 15.3K, 115
Canada: 3.6K, 242
Belgium: 7.7K, 855
Sweden: 8.5K, 578
China: 59, 3
Netherlands: 4.5L, 364
Japan: 575, 11
Singapore: 9.7K, 5
Switzerland: 5.2K, 233
Australia: 1.0K, 31
South Korea: 424, 7
Denmark: 3.2K, 108
Norway: 2.2K, 49
Luxembourg: 11.2K, 197
Hong Kong: 653, 13
Iceland: 6.3K, 29
New Zealand: 358, 5

Yes you can find comparable numbers within some of the Western European countries (UK, Belgium, Sweden), some at half (Netherlands, Canada) but a lot of them under 100 (less than roughly 20% of the US numbers)...

So an effective total response might have the US at instead of roughly a quarter million deaths (~200K officially) to an official number of 32K deaths (and likely more like 40-50K) instead...

[holmes435]

I'll just have to keep working on my drones …

We've been trying to improve them for a few decades now with little to show

[Unknown Participant]

Always love the lefts ‘there’s nothing he can do or say to chase his voters away’, when for the same people there’s nothing Trump can do or say to cause them to vote for him.

Trump is responsible for a couple of hundred thousand deaths due to COVID-19, due to his inaction and active negligence in seeking to ignore the problem.

Kind of hard to overcome that.

And that is not the only thing to keep people from not voting for him. There is a LONG list.

As far as his own locked in supporters - they choose to either believe his many lies, or choose to ignore them. Can't fix stupid...

Every country has been affected by this virus, which is new (in case you haven't noticed). The US has about 190,000 deaths (I think), some due to the virus and some where an otherwise unwell person died with the virus. The US is larger than most countries population wise (ex India, China, Russia (I think), maybe Indonesia/Brazil), so it would be natural for the US to have more cases than other countries (if you are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So in actuality, the response has been decent based on comparative per capita data. And, of course, this is a Republic made up of multiples states, with a constitution that limits federal power and provides many/most powers to the states (If are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So back to your point, if the Cuomo, the NY media darling, and the Govs of NJ, CT, MA had done a better job with their responses (or done nothing (which may have been better)), we would have about 50,000 or so fewer deaths and would be a world leader.

I wish I could help you be smarter, informed and objective, but I can't. You have to help yourself.

Best,

First - 195K officially on worldometer, and 30% higher likely due to undercounting.

Per capita deaths (per M):
(in order of largest raw case numbers)

US: 589 (6.5M cases, 19.3K cases/M)
India: 54 (4.5M cases, 3.2K cases/M)
Brazil: 604 (4.2M cases, 19.7K cases/M)
Russia: 124 (1.0M cases, 7.1K cases/M)
Peru: 915 (703K cases, 21.3K cases/M)
Columbia: 433 (687K cases, 13.5K cases/M)
Mexico: 525 (648K cases, 5.0K cases/M)
South Africa: 255 (642K cases, 10.8K cases/M)
Spain: 634 (543K cases, 11.6K cases/M)

These have all been hit hard at some point, and with the exception of India, have comparable numbers to the US.

But some other comparables - similar economic well being, for example:

(cases/M, deaths/M)
France: 5.3K, 472
UK: 5.3K, 612
Germany: 3.1K, 112
Israel: 15.3K, 115
Canada: 3.6K, 242
Belgium: 7.7K, 855
Sweden: 8.5K, 578
China: 59, 3
Netherlands: 4.5L, 364
Japan: 575, 11
Singapore: 9.7K, 5
Switzerland: 5.2K, 233
Australia: 1.0K, 31
South Korea: 424, 7
Denmark: 3.2K, 108
Norway: 2.2K, 49
Luxembourg: 11.2K, 197
Hong Kong: 653, 13
Iceland: 6.3K, 29
New Zealand: 358, 5

Yes you can find comparable numbers within some of the Western European countries (UK, Belgium, Sweden), some at half (Netherlands, Canada) but a lot of them under 100 (less than roughly 20% of the US numbers)...

So an effective total response might have the US at instead of roughly a quarter million deaths (~200K officially) to an official number of 32K deaths (and likely more like 40-50K) instead...

Roughly a quarter million? Clown, not over 193k (today, including real non-Covid issues), Blame it on Cuomo and the NJ, MA, CT Governors. If they had not f'd it up so badly, the US would be leading the way.

[ggait]

Yes you can find comparable numbers within some of the Western European countries (UK, Belgium, Sweden), some at half (Netherlands, Canada) but a lot of them under 100 (less than roughly 20% of the US numbers)...

Plenty of countries got hit very hard in the first wave -- Italy, Spain, France, UK, Sweden -- similar to how NY/NJ got hit.

What is most telling imo is how countries are doing now. After having had 5-6 months to learn, adapt handle. 7 day death average currently:

USA 753
Spain 62
France 15
UK 12
Italy 12
Germany 3
Canada 3
Sweden 1

And on a cumulative basis (deaths per million pop), the USA has now caught up and passed France Sweden and Italy. In a couple weeks, we will be passing Spain and UK.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Always love the lefts ‘there’s nothing he can do or say to chase his voters away’, when for the same people there’s nothing Trump can do or say to cause them to vote for him.

Trump is responsible for a couple of hundred thousand deaths due to COVID-19, due to his inaction and active negligence in seeking to ignore the problem.

Kind of hard to overcome that.

And that is not the only thing to keep people from not voting for him. There is a LONG list.

As far as his own locked in supporters - they choose to either believe his many lies, or choose to ignore them. Can't fix stupid...

Every country has been affected by this virus, which is new (in case you haven't noticed). The US has about 190,000 deaths (I think), some due to the virus and some where an otherwise unwell person died with the virus. The US is larger than most countries population wise (ex India, China, Russia (I think), maybe Indonesia/Brazil), so it would be natural for the US to have more cases than other countries (if you are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So in actuality, the response has been decent based on comparative per capita data. And, of course, this is a Republic made up of multiples states, with a constitution that limits federal power and provides many/most powers to the states (If are too stupid to understand that, I can't help you). So back to your point, if the Cuomo, the NY media darling, and the Govs of NJ, CT, MA had done a better job with their responses (or done nothing (which may have been better)), we would have about 50,000 or so fewer deaths and would be a world leader.

I wish I could help you be smarter, informed and objective, but I can't. You have to help yourself.

Best,

First - 195K officially on worldometer, and 30% higher likely due to undercounting.

Per capita deaths (per M):
(in order of largest raw case numbers)

US: 589 (6.5M cases, 19.3K cases/M)
India: 54 (4.5M cases, 3.2K cases/M)
Brazil: 604 (4.2M cases, 19.7K cases/M)
Russia: 124 (1.0M cases, 7.1K cases/M)
Peru: 915 (703K cases, 21.3K cases/M)
Columbia: 433 (687K cases, 13.5K cases/M)
Mexico: 525 (648K cases, 5.0K cases/M)
South Africa: 255 (642K cases, 10.8K cases/M)
Spain: 634 (543K cases, 11.6K cases/M)

These have all been hit hard at some point, and with the exception of India, have comparable numbers to the US.

But some other comparables - similar economic well being, for example:

(cases/M, deaths/M)
France: 5.3K, 472
UK: 5.3K, 612
Germany: 3.1K, 112
Israel: 15.3K, 115
Canada: 3.6K, 242
Belgium: 7.7K, 855
Sweden: 8.5K, 578
China: 59, 3
Netherlands: 4.5L, 364
Japan: 575, 11
Singapore: 9.7K, 5
Switzerland: 5.2K, 233
Australia: 1.0K, 31
South Korea: 424, 7
Denmark: 3.2K, 108
Norway: 2.2K, 49
Luxembourg: 11.2K, 197
Hong Kong: 653, 13
Iceland: 6.3K, 29
New Zealand: 358, 5

Yes you can find comparable numbers within some of the Western European countries (UK, Belgium, Sweden), some at half (Netherlands, Canada) but a lot of them under 100 (less than roughly 20% of the US numbers)...

So an effective total response might have the US at instead of roughly a quarter million deaths (~200K officially) to an official number of 32K deaths (and likely more like 40-50K) instead...

Roughly a quarter million? Clown, not over 193k (today, including real non-Covid issues), Blame it on Cuomo and the NJ, MA, CT Governors. If they had not f'd it up so badly, the US would be leading the way.

Tell Ron DeSantis that.

[seacoaster]

Bending the entire edifice of government to serve Duce:

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/ ... 5/full.pdf

Republicans in this administration and in Congress are a disgrace.

Now this is truly serious.

Agreed; and it is remarkable how little play this is getting, overpowered by the revelation that the President lied about the virus from early February and called it a "hoax" that would go away. But this whistleblower complaint -- if sustained -- says that the national security and intelligence apparatus manipulated intelligence for domestic political gain.

And the DOJ intervened in a defamation suit. No SDNY lawyer signed on to the Motion to Substitute; the thing was engineered at the main office in Washington.

Trump uses the props of the White House and AF1 for campaigning, for backdrop.

Why do all Americans not understand how very wrong and different this is?