All things CoronaVirus

[runrussellrun]

cheap shot, TLD. (fake)


can't stand tRump......and you know it. (maybe your sauced and can't remember things .. )

Could it be that Trudeau and the Canuck government is LYING about v19? Is the University of Toronato closed?


we know, we know, you don't care.

[Typical Lax Dad]

cheap shot, TLD. (fake)


can't stand tRump......and you know it. (maybe your sauced and can't remember things .. )

Could it be that Trudeau and the Canuck government is LYING about v19? Is the University of Toronato closed?


we know, we know, you don't care.

Yeah. And Trump is telling the truth.... closing in on 1,000,000 deaths.

[a fan]

So, when our "leaders" Dr. Fauci, the Event 201 folks, Bill Gates, World health organization, etc..........said masks were not needed, this is our elected officials responsibility?

Like you would have listened to them? No matter what they did or said? You and your fellow Americans would ignore them.

If Dr. Fauci told Americans that wearing a seat belt was a good idea?....millions of Americans would walk to their cars, douse their seatbelts in gasoline, and light them on fire.

It's how we're wired. For good & bad.

[runrussellrun]

cheap shot, TLD. (fake)


can't stand tRump......and you know it. (maybe your sauced and can't remember things .. )

Could it be that Trudeau and the Canuck government is LYING about v19? Is the University of Toronato closed?


we know, we know, you don't care.

Yeah. And Trump is telling the truth.... closing in on 1,000,000 deaths.

Isn't that good news? (the deaths)

on my A. T. travels.....ran into an old school guy in New Hampshire. he was pushing the truth about hemp. plastics, health, paper....all the benefits of hemp. he also hated tRump. I asked for SPECIFICS on the hate (always a crowd pleaser )...he came up with nothing. I mentioned the Dec. 2019 bill that tRump endorsed and signed. You know, the one that does something about HEMP not being illegal anymore. A step in the RIGHT direction. He didn't know about it. F in idiot. Fake .
He also railed about climate change, and I turned him on to a few website to show him the correct path. Pulled the Al Gore (have YOU, tld, watched his inCONvienant truth "movie" yet ) stuff out about over population.

How can you, on one hand, complain about over population, and on the other, cry about people dying? F the old. When they showed up at Gettysburg college, they weren't locked in their rooms.

Honestly, if you over the age of 60, we don't care if your parents die. They had their time...they had their fun.

Our 20 year olds? Most know this is all about tRump and not health. Biden HATES pot. It's a gateway drug. To crack. He knows. Just ask his son.

If only tRump declared martial law.......

[Typical Lax Dad]

cheap shot, TLD. (fake)


can't stand tRump......and you know it. (maybe your sauced and can't remember things .. )

Could it be that Trudeau and the Canuck government is LYING about v19? Is the University of Toronato closed?


we know, we know, you don't care.

Yeah. And Trump is telling the truth.... closing in on 1,000,000 deaths.

Isn't that good news? (the deaths)

on my A. T. travels.....ran into an old school guy in New Hampshire. he was pushing the truth about hemp. plastics, health, paper....all the benefits of hemp. he also hated tRump. I asked for SPECIFICS on the hate (always a crowd pleaser )...he came up with nothing. I mentioned the Dec. 2019 bill that tRump endorsed and signed. You know, the one that does something about HEMP not being illegal anymore. A step in the RIGHT direction. He didn't know about it. F in idiot. Fake .
He also railed about climate change, and I turned him on to a few website to show him the correct path. Pulled the Al Gore (have YOU, tld, watched his inCONvienant truth "movie" yet ) stuff out about over population.

How can you, on one hand, complain about over population, and on the other, cry about people dying? F the old. When they showed up at Gettysburg college, they weren't locked in their rooms.

Honestly, if you over the age of 60, we don't care if your parents die. They had their time...they had their fun.

Our 20 year olds? Most know this is all about tRump and not health. Biden HATES pot. It's a gateway drug. To crack. He knows. Just ask his son.

If only tRump declared martial law.......

I don’t know why you don’t have a national platform. You should look into it.

[runrussellrun]

So, when our "leaders" Dr. Fauci, the Event 201 folks, Bill Gates, World health organization, etc..........said masks were not needed, this is our elected officials responsibility?

Like you would have listened to them? No matter what they did or said? You and your fellow Americans would ignore them.

If Dr. Fauci told Americans that wearing a seat belt was a good idea?....millions of Americans would walk to their cars, douse their seatbelts in gasoline, and light them on fire.

It's how we're wired. For good & bad.

More ASSumptions on your part.

Define "robust" to us , AFAN. please, I beg you. DEFINE ROBUST, event 201's awesome recommendation. (which also included NOT shutting the economy down) Sad, really, that you can't grasp this.

[runrussellrun]

cheap shot, TLD. (fake)


can't stand tRump......and you know it. (maybe your sauced and can't remember things .. )

Could it be that Trudeau and the Canuck government is LYING about v19? Is the University of Toronato closed?


we know, we know, you don't care.

Yeah. And Trump is telling the truth.... closing in on 1,000,000 deaths.

Isn't that good news? (the deaths)

on my A. T. travels.....ran into an old school guy in New Hampshire. he was pushing the truth about hemp. plastics, health, paper....all the benefits of hemp. he also hated tRump. I asked for SPECIFICS on the hate (always a crowd pleaser )...he came up with nothing. I mentioned the Dec. 2019 bill that tRump endorsed and signed. You know, the one that does something about HEMP not being illegal anymore. A step in the RIGHT direction. He didn't know about it. F in idiot. Fake .
He also railed about climate change, and I turned him on to a few website to show him the correct path. Pulled the Al Gore (have YOU, tld, watched his inCONvienant truth "movie" yet ) stuff out about over population.

How can you, on one hand, complain about over population, and on the other, cry about people dying? F the old. When they showed up at Gettysburg college, they weren't locked in their rooms.

Honestly, if you over the age of 60, we don't care if your parents die. They had their time...they had their fun.

Our 20 year olds? Most know this is all about tRump and not health. Biden HATES pot. It's a gateway drug. To crack. He knows. Just ask his son.

If only tRump declared martial law.......

I don’t know why you don’t have a national platform. You should look into it.

national platform for what? Are you listening to heroin addicts right now?

20 years ago, I would have entered the octagon with Miles blaring...........

[Typical Lax Dad]

cheap shot, TLD. (fake)


can't stand tRump......and you know it. (maybe your sauced and can't remember things .. )

Could it be that Trudeau and the Canuck government is LYING about v19? Is the University of Toronato closed?


we know, we know, you don't care.

Yeah. And Trump is telling the truth.... closing in on 1,000,000 deaths.

Isn't that good news? (the deaths)

on my A. T. travels.....ran into an old school guy in New Hampshire. he was pushing the truth about hemp. plastics, health, paper....all the benefits of hemp. he also hated tRump. I asked for SPECIFICS on the hate (always a crowd pleaser )...he came up with nothing. I mentioned the Dec. 2019 bill that tRump endorsed and signed. You know, the one that does something about HEMP not being illegal anymore. A step in the RIGHT direction. He didn't know about it. F in idiot. Fake .
He also railed about climate change, and I turned him on to a few website to show him the correct path. Pulled the Al Gore (have YOU, tld, watched his inCONvienant truth "movie" yet ) stuff out about over population.

How can you, on one hand, complain about over population, and on the other, cry about people dying? F the old. When they showed up at Gettysburg college, they weren't locked in their rooms.

Honestly, if you over the age of 60, we don't care if your parents die. They had their time...they had their fun.

Our 20 year olds? Most know this is all about tRump and not health. Biden HATES pot. It's a gateway drug. To crack. He knows. Just ask his son.

If only tRump declared martial law.......

I don’t know why you don’t have a national platform. You should look into it.

national platform for what? Are you listening to heroin addicts right now?

20 years ago, I would have entered the octagon with Miles blaring...........

Which Miles? I am not an MMA guy. Not enough skill in it for me.

[runrussellrun]

Is University of Toronto open now? Are they locking their students in the Dorms, or not?

amazing that Ontario has such a low infection rate, considering that colleges will be open . right?

Are Ontario schools open for younger kids?

The Atlantic article didn't mention it

FEAR PORN

no one is dying that hasnt already lived there life (mostly)......

but, you people are correct, no ones kids are getting bummed out with all this bullness.

[a fan]

More ASSumptions on your part.

And this is different from what you're doing......how?

Define "robust" to us , AFAN. please, I beg you. DEFINE ROBUST, event 201's awesome recommendation. (which also included NOT shutting the economy down) Sad, really, that you can't grasp this.

Don't care about event 201, RRR. Neither does anyone else here.

You can plan until you're blue in the face....the American people don't want to follow orders. Other cultures have no problem following orders, and don't think that wearing a mask is the hardest thing they've ever done in their adult lives.

So here we are. Doesn't matter who is President. Doesn't matter what the plans are.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Is University of Toronto open now? Are they locking their students in the Dorms, or not?

amazing that Ontario has such a low infection rate, considering that colleges will be open . right?

Are Ontario schools open for younger kids?

The Atlantic article didn't mention it

FEAR PORN

no one is dying that hasnt already lived there life (mostly)......

but, you people are correct, no ones kids are getting bummed out with all this bullness.

There are plenty of schools in this county where kids are not locked in dorms.FEAR PORN. My daughter’s school isn’t on lockdown (not yet) and neither is my wife’s school (not yet). I heard Bentley has 6 cases and sent the kids home.

Kids are going to school in London and Paris.

[runrussellrun]

Which Miles? I am not an MMA guy. Not enough skill in it for me.

Now THAT is funny.

So you know how to effectlvely box (punch), and do an arm bar, komora, rear naked choke, etc.

it's comical, how us old folks thinK MMA is lacking skills. These take YEARS to learn and use in action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uqgP2E9oUg


boxing is a joke...........if Conner McGreggor fought Mayweather in a MMA match, you think Floyds "skills" would prevent him from getting choked out.

Name one "boxer" that would be able to handle a Khabib Nurmagomedov? you are clueless. Not alone though. Lots our age that don't get it.

but....of course....your are kidding

[runrussellrun]

More ASSumptions on your part.

And this is different from what you're doing......how?

Define "robust" to us , AFAN. please, I beg you. DEFINE ROBUST, event 201's awesome recommendation. (which also included NOT shutting the economy down) Sad, really, that you can't grasp this.

Don't care about event 201, RRR. Neither does anyone else here. WHY?

You can plan until you're blue in the face....the American people don't want to follow orders. Other cultures have no problem following orders, and don't think that wearing a mask is the hardest thing they've ever done in their adult lives.

So here we are. Doesn't matter who is President. Doesn't matter what the plans are.

glad you speak for everyone else here, AFAN.

s

[Typical Lax Dad]

Which Miles? I am not an MMA guy. Not enough skill in it for me.

Now THAT is funny.

So you know how to effectlvely box (punch), and do an arm bar, komora, rear naked choke, etc.

it's comical, how us old folks thinK MMA is lacking skills. These take YEARS to learn and use in action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uqgP2E9oUg


boxing is a joke...........if Conner McGreggor fought Mayweather in a MMA match, you think Floyds "skills" would prevent him from getting choked out.

Name one "boxer" that would be able to handle a Khabib Nurmagomedov? you are clueless. Not alone though. Lots our age that don't get it.

but....of course....your are kidding

Lomachenko...it’s s stupid sport. Anyone can do it. That’s why it popular. Get your ass in a boxing gym.....edit: it’s like real estate investing..... a lot of people dabble in it. It’s not that hard.

[a fan]

More ASSumptions on your part.

And this is different from what you're doing......how?

Define "robust" to us , AFAN. please, I beg you. DEFINE ROBUST, event 201's awesome recommendation. (which also included NOT shutting the economy down) Sad, really, that you can't grasp this.

Don't care about event 201, RRR. Neither does anyone else here. WHY?

You can plan until you're blue in the face....the American people don't want to follow orders. Other cultures have no problem following orders, and don't think that wearing a mask is the hardest thing they've ever done in their adult lives.

So here we are. Doesn't matter who is President. Doesn't matter what the plans are.

glad you speak for everyone else here, AFAN.

s

Meh, just saving you some time.

Look at how you've reacted to this whole virus? What makes you think that "solid planning" is going to keep you from claiming "fear porn" every time an official opens their mouth?

You don't want to hear it. And as I've said before, I kinda like that you and other Americans are like this. DIY, punk rock, stick it to the man, and all that.

It's not doing my business any favors, but.....well, it comes with the car keys of being an American.

[ggait]

Is University of Toronto open now? Are they locking their students in the Dorms, or not?

amazing that Ontario has such a low infection rate, considering that colleges will be open . right?

Are Ontario schools open for younger kids?

UK and Canadian schools have just recently re-opened. Pretty much full time and in person. Very much TBD how that will go for them.

But recognize that the UK and Canada are on a different planet Covid-wise than where the USA is. Which is especially striking given how horrendous the UK was at first. 7 day average daily deaths:

USA 864
UK 7
Canada 4

[Typical Lax Dad]

Is University of Toronto open now? Are they locking their students in the Dorms, or not?

amazing that Ontario has such a low infection rate, considering that colleges will be open . right?

Are Ontario schools open for younger kids?

UK and Canadian schools have just recently re-opened. Pretty much full time and in person. Very much TBD how that will go for them.

But recognize that the UK and Canada are on a different planet Covid-wise than where the USA is. Which is especially striking given how horrendous the UK was at first. 7 day average daily deaths:

USA 864
UK 7
Canada 4

FEAR PORN. 864 is all old people!!

This school is open:

https://www.babson.edu/emergency-prepar ... dashboard/

Let see if it stays that way......it won’t if the kids start partying and community spread picks up and presents a danger.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/06/health/c ... index.html

[old salt]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-failed ... 1599000890

The failed experiment of covid lockdowns

New data suggest that social distancing and reopening haven’t determined the spread.

Six months into the Covid-19 pandemic, the U.S. has now carried out two large-scale experiments in public health—first, in March and April, the lockdown of the economy to arrest the spread of the virus, and second, since mid-April, the reopening of the economy. The results are in. Counterintuitive though it may be, statistical analysis shows that locking down the economy didn’t contain the disease’s spread and reopening it didn’t unleash a second wave of infections.

Considering that lockdowns are economically costly and create well-documented long-term public-health consequences beyond Covid, imposing them appears to have been a large policy error. At the beginning, when little was known, officials acted in ways they thought prudent. But now evidence proves that lockdowns were an expensive treatment with serious side effects and no benefit to society.

TrendMacro, my analytics firm, tallied the cumulative number of reported cases of Covid-19 in each state and the District of Columbia as a percentage of population, based on data from state and local health departments aggregated by the Covid Tracking Project. We then compared that with the timing and intensity of the lockdown in each jurisdiction. That is measured not by the mandates put in place by government officials, but rather by observing what people in each jurisdiction actually did, along with their baseline behavior before the lockdowns. This is captured in highly detailed anonymized cellphone tracking data provided by Google and others and tabulated by the University of Maryland’s Transportation Institute into a “Social Distancing Index.”

Measuring from the start of the year to each state’s point of maximum lockdown—which range from April 5 to April 18—it turns out that lockdowns correlated with a greater spread of the virus. States with longer, stricter lockdowns also had larger Covid outbreaks. The five places with the harshest lockdowns—the District of Columbia, New York, Michigan, New Jersey and Massachusetts—had the heaviest caseloads.

It could be that strict lockdowns were imposed as a response to already severe outbreaks. But the surprising negative correlation, while statistically weak, persists even when excluding states with the heaviest caseloads. And it makes no difference if the analysis includes other potential explanatory factors such as population density, age, ethnicity, prevalence of nursing homes, general health or temperature. The only factor that seems to make a demonstrable difference is the intensity of mass-transit use.

We ran the experiment a second time to observe the effects on caseloads of the reopening that began in mid-April. We used the same methodology, but started from each state’s peak of lockdown and extended to July 31. Confirming the first experiment, there was a tendency (though fairly weak) for states that opened up the most to have the lightest caseloads. The states that had the big summer flare-ups in the so-called “Sunbelt second wave”—Arizona, California, Florida and Texas—are by no means the most opened up, politicized headlines notwithstanding.

The lesson is not that lockdowns made the spread of Covid-19 worse—although the raw evidence might suggest that—but that lockdowns probably didn’t help, and opening up didn’t hurt. This defies common sense. In theory, the spread of an infectious disease ought to be controllable by quarantine. Evidently not in practice, though we are aware of no researcher who understands why not.

We’re not the only researchers to have discovered this statistical relationship. We first published a version of these findings in April, around the same time similar findings appeared in these pages. In July, a publication of the Lancet published research that found similar results looking across countries rather than U.S. states. “A longer time prior to implementation of any lockdown was associated with a lower number of detected cases,” the study concludes. Those findings have now been enhanced by sophisticated measures of actual social distancing, and data from the reopening phase.

There are experimental controls that all this research lacks. There are no observable instances in which there were either total lockdowns or no lockdowns at all. But there’s no escaping the evidence that, at minimum, heavy lockdowns were no more effective than light ones, and that opening up a lot was no more harmful than opening up a little. So where’s the science that would justify the heavy lockdowns many public-health officials are still demanding?

With the evidence we now possess, even the most risk-averse and single-minded public-health officials should hesitate before demanding the next lockdown and causing the next economic recession.

[runrussellrun]

More ASSumptions on your part.

And this is different from what you're doing......how?

Define "robust" to us , AFAN. please, I beg you. DEFINE ROBUST, event 201's awesome recommendation. (which also included NOT shutting the economy down) Sad, really, that you can't grasp this.

Don't care about event 201, RRR. Neither does anyone else here. WHY?

You can plan until you're blue in the face....the American people don't want to follow orders. Other cultures have no problem following orders, and don't think that wearing a mask is the hardest thing they've ever done in their adult lives.

So here we are. Doesn't matter who is President. Doesn't matter what the plans are.

glad you speak for everyone else here, AFAN.

s

Meh, just saving you some time.

Look at how you've reacted to this whole virus? What makes you think that "solid planning" is going to keep you from claiming "fear porn" every time an official opens their mouth?

You don't want to hear it. And as I've said before, I kinda like that you and other Americans are like this. DIY, punk rock, stick it to the man, and all that.

It's not doing my business any favors, but.....well, it comes with the car keys of being an American.

You are correct, you and your minions would rather bath and lather in the all hate, all day.......gossip porn. Is that better?

You are all over the place, I guess. You MUST think it silly that the DNC headlined a young woman blaming her Governor and the tv reality show host for her dads death. Silly, right?

Solid planning? Isn't that what event 201 was all about? It's sad, really that you and yours don't care about learning all the info you can, but, are satisfied with what you learn. Awesomer. And yet, constantly battle and support useless 69 page pandemic reports. b/c of the TDS

To be clear, the almost 1000 pages on this thread alone, how many comments blaming tRump? Every time he officially opens his mouth.

Actually, I have no idea what your point is regarding being American. What is the US doing differently than, say, our neighbors up north?

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Did I mention TRUMP.

Yes, no one cares about Event 201, put on by Johns Hopkins. Nothing to learn ....got it.