Cooter wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:15 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:17 am
sorry, that kid simply doesn't face the same system-wide issues for the rest of his life, including from those with the most power..
But don't get us wrong, no one is giving a pass on abuse of that kid. It's not ok.
But it's not close to the same.
That is why a lot of people feel
overburdened
when discussing race with people like you. Liberal-types like you almost have a religious fervor concerning it, and are very self righteous about it. You aren't really into discussing race but are more into coercing people to believe as you do (indoctrination).
One can sort of guess, that with the Bowdoin team meetings on race, that the first meeting was good for discussing the basic do's and don'ts w.r.t. race, but the second got more politicized and caused divisiveness, not really a good thing for a team.
I would have to hear the other side concerning this kid before making any decision. Certainly, the two racial comments were insensitive and incorrect, but one might expect a few such things to be said over the course of 3 years by young adults. If it was a more continual racial harassment, I would feel much differently.
I don't really think that your calling Peter Brown a troll because his political views differ from yours is very exemplary.
nah, he really is a troll, both on the Hopkins thread and on these political threads.
I agree it's not a pleasant thing to say, but "it is what it is".
So, now I'm a "liberal"?... because I acknowledge that my experience as a white man has undoubtedly been different than that of a black man of my generation? yes, on the basis of our race alone. Or perhaps because I acknowledge that these differences in reality exist today? Or is it that I do think there's a long legacy of institutionalized racism throughout our history, into my lifetime, and persisting today?
Well, on this I'll agree as to being in the classical understanding of "liberal", indeed reflecting the founding principles, if not practices, of our country.
Perhaps not what you meant, but I'll agree in that sense.
I certainly also agree with you that it would be interesting to understand more about others' perspectives from the team, but I certainly give huge weight to the perspective of what is like to be black as a Bowdoin lax player from a guy who actually IS black player on that team.
Sure, the reality of our world is that a black player should probably anticipate to hear some racially charged, "insensitive and incorrect" comments when in an a mostly white setting like this one. But that's the whole point. It should not happen at all, period, and his teammates have an opportunity to either embrace that change or they can choose to reject it, ignore it, turn away from it because it's uncomfortable.
My goddaughter's brother is a Bowdoin lax grad during the past 10 years. I'm close with all three of my best man's kids, all of whom played lax in college. I'm darn sure of where his head would be on this topic, he'd be supporting this team member's desire to confront the issues with his teammates thoroughly. Just as I'm sure where his two siblings' and my son's heads would be.
That's the good news, many of these young people are willing to do the uncomfortable work. But not all.
So, look into your own heart a bit, Coot. Why did you assume he was probably on scholarship?
You can't claim you didn't know that there are no DIII athletic scholarships...so why?