The latest in MD-
Many stat categories are at new lows. Almost 20% of the MD population has been tested.
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/cov ... tions-drop
All things CoronaVirus
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Hell yea. Now let's hope with colleges some local colleges starting back up this week, it stays low.kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:40 pm The latest in MD-
Many stat categories are at new lows. Almost 20% of the MD population has been tested.
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/cov ... tions-drop
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Yup. The wife's college is offering about 40% in person 60% virtual.
Professors who teach labs and classes requiring access to people/facilties/equip etc. were granted face to face.
The classes she teaches were are declared virtual, for now.
Professors who teach labs and classes requiring access to people/facilties/equip etc. were granted face to face.
The classes she teaches were are declared virtual, for now.
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Opinion letter to the Times:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/opin ... onomy.html
"“Humankind cannot bear very much reality.”
So said the poet T.S. Eliot. It’s an apt explanation for the White House’s failure to respond adequately to the pandemic that has swept across America and the rest of the world.
Even as reality continues to intrude, President Trump has either largely dismissed or ignored his science and medical advisers. And the result is that the economy, the one thing he seems to care most about, and which he hoped would escort him to a second term, has been devastated.
As both history and data from today demonstrate, health and the economy are not antagonistic; they are dance partners, with public health taking the lead. The safer people feel, the more they will engage in economic activity.
A recent study of the 1918-1919 influenza pandemic by a member of the Federal Reserve board and economists at the Fed and M.I.T. compared cities that imposed stringent public health measures — including school and church closings, public gathering bans, quarantines and restricted business hours — with cities that opened faster and imposed fewer restrictions. The more stringent cities not only had fewer deaths but experienced “a relative increase in economic activity from 1919 onward.”
Containing the virus has allowed many European economies to recover far better than the U.S. Look at Germany, which has an unemployment rate of 6.4 percent. The rate in the U.S. is 10.2 percent. In March and April, according to OpenTable, the reservation booking company, business in restaurants in Germany and the U.S. were in the identical place, down over 90 percent year over year. Since then they have diverged widely: data for Aug. 16 (the latest data at this writing) shows German restaurants enjoyed 9 percent more business than last year, before the pandemic, while U.S. restaurants were down around 50 percent.
And in a report last week, the National League of Cities said that precipitous declines in tax revenues were forcing cities to “severely cut services at a time when communities need them most, to lay off and furlough employees who make up a large share of America’s middle class, and to pull back on capital projects, further affecting local employment, business contracts and overall investment in the economy.”
In June the World Bank estimated that global G.D.P. this year would decline by at least 5.2 percent and possibly much more. The Congressional Budget Office expects G.D.P in the U.S. to fare worse, down 5.9 percent for the year, even after factoring in projected third quarter growth of more than 20 percent. But that projection assumes the containment of the virus, a huge assumption.
Indeed, a Morgan Stanley model predicts that under current policies the U.S. is currently on track to have 150,000 new cases a day later this year. And that number is not even a worst case. If we do suffer case counts anything like those, dramatic growth in the economy simply won’t happen.
Bad as the virus has been this summer, it actually spreads better in low temperatures, and when temperatures fall, more people will be inside in poorly ventilated areas where transmission is also more likely. If the U.S. goes into the fall with new daily cases in the tens of thousands, as they are now, then the numbers could explode and the Morgan Stanley prediction could come true. Considering our containment efforts to date, there is little reason for optimism.
If that occurs, the economy will not come back. Jerome Powell, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, said as much recently. “The path forward for the economy is extraordinarily uncertain and will depend in large part on our success in keeping the virus in check,” he said at a July 29 news conference. He added: “A full recovery is unlikely until people are confident that it is safe to re-engage in a broad range of activities.”
But containment, and the confidence that goes with it, is not remotely where we are at the moment. Among developed nations, the U.S. ranks first in categories one would prefer to be last in: number of cases and number of deaths. It lags well behind in economic recovery as well. As of this writing, the European Union and Britain combined have a population of about 510 million, and 1,924,569 Covid-19 cases. They have had around 8,000 cases for the latest daily count. The United States, population 328 million, just passed 5.4 million cases, with 42,303 the latest daily case count.
Bringing the economy back requires precisely the same three measures that controlling the virus does: First, better compliance with social distancing, wearing masks, personal hygiene and avoiding crowds; second, finally — finally — getting the supply chain and personnel infrastructure in place to support the necessary testing and contact tracing; and, third, the bitter medicine of regional shutdowns.
The same Morgan Stanley model that predicts that the U.S. is on track to reach 150,000 cases a day also has a “bullish” scenario in which the U.S. case counts decline to European levels. But for that to happen, the modelers assumed “more strict restrictions and broader interventions” such as lockdowns “similar” to those imposed by China and major European Union countries.
Without active, aggressive White House leadership we cannot achieve that and — reality again — there isn’t the slightest hint that will happen. But in 1918 leadership came from cities and states. If governors and mayors act aggressively, especially if they act jointly, we can still make significant progress.
In April, I predicted that summer would not bring relief from the virus, and that we would experience not a second wave but continuous swells, depending on how well we complied with public health measures. Unfortunately too many states eased up too early or did little or nothing to control the virus. On the day that prediction was published, April 30, the seven-day average of new cases was 28,943. On Aug. 16, the seven-day average was 51,523.
I also warned of not simply swells but a viral hurricane-like storm surge if the country does not act aggressively and the public fails to comply. I stand by that prediction. Tens of thousands more will die on top of the more than 170,000 already lost in the U.S., and millions will suffer economic devastation.
And, in reality, all of it will be unnecessary. God help us."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/opin ... onomy.html
"“Humankind cannot bear very much reality.”
So said the poet T.S. Eliot. It’s an apt explanation for the White House’s failure to respond adequately to the pandemic that has swept across America and the rest of the world.
Even as reality continues to intrude, President Trump has either largely dismissed or ignored his science and medical advisers. And the result is that the economy, the one thing he seems to care most about, and which he hoped would escort him to a second term, has been devastated.
As both history and data from today demonstrate, health and the economy are not antagonistic; they are dance partners, with public health taking the lead. The safer people feel, the more they will engage in economic activity.
A recent study of the 1918-1919 influenza pandemic by a member of the Federal Reserve board and economists at the Fed and M.I.T. compared cities that imposed stringent public health measures — including school and church closings, public gathering bans, quarantines and restricted business hours — with cities that opened faster and imposed fewer restrictions. The more stringent cities not only had fewer deaths but experienced “a relative increase in economic activity from 1919 onward.”
Containing the virus has allowed many European economies to recover far better than the U.S. Look at Germany, which has an unemployment rate of 6.4 percent. The rate in the U.S. is 10.2 percent. In March and April, according to OpenTable, the reservation booking company, business in restaurants in Germany and the U.S. were in the identical place, down over 90 percent year over year. Since then they have diverged widely: data for Aug. 16 (the latest data at this writing) shows German restaurants enjoyed 9 percent more business than last year, before the pandemic, while U.S. restaurants were down around 50 percent.
And in a report last week, the National League of Cities said that precipitous declines in tax revenues were forcing cities to “severely cut services at a time when communities need them most, to lay off and furlough employees who make up a large share of America’s middle class, and to pull back on capital projects, further affecting local employment, business contracts and overall investment in the economy.”
In June the World Bank estimated that global G.D.P. this year would decline by at least 5.2 percent and possibly much more. The Congressional Budget Office expects G.D.P in the U.S. to fare worse, down 5.9 percent for the year, even after factoring in projected third quarter growth of more than 20 percent. But that projection assumes the containment of the virus, a huge assumption.
Indeed, a Morgan Stanley model predicts that under current policies the U.S. is currently on track to have 150,000 new cases a day later this year. And that number is not even a worst case. If we do suffer case counts anything like those, dramatic growth in the economy simply won’t happen.
Bad as the virus has been this summer, it actually spreads better in low temperatures, and when temperatures fall, more people will be inside in poorly ventilated areas where transmission is also more likely. If the U.S. goes into the fall with new daily cases in the tens of thousands, as they are now, then the numbers could explode and the Morgan Stanley prediction could come true. Considering our containment efforts to date, there is little reason for optimism.
If that occurs, the economy will not come back. Jerome Powell, the chairman of the Federal Reserve, said as much recently. “The path forward for the economy is extraordinarily uncertain and will depend in large part on our success in keeping the virus in check,” he said at a July 29 news conference. He added: “A full recovery is unlikely until people are confident that it is safe to re-engage in a broad range of activities.”
But containment, and the confidence that goes with it, is not remotely where we are at the moment. Among developed nations, the U.S. ranks first in categories one would prefer to be last in: number of cases and number of deaths. It lags well behind in economic recovery as well. As of this writing, the European Union and Britain combined have a population of about 510 million, and 1,924,569 Covid-19 cases. They have had around 8,000 cases for the latest daily count. The United States, population 328 million, just passed 5.4 million cases, with 42,303 the latest daily case count.
Bringing the economy back requires precisely the same three measures that controlling the virus does: First, better compliance with social distancing, wearing masks, personal hygiene and avoiding crowds; second, finally — finally — getting the supply chain and personnel infrastructure in place to support the necessary testing and contact tracing; and, third, the bitter medicine of regional shutdowns.
The same Morgan Stanley model that predicts that the U.S. is on track to reach 150,000 cases a day also has a “bullish” scenario in which the U.S. case counts decline to European levels. But for that to happen, the modelers assumed “more strict restrictions and broader interventions” such as lockdowns “similar” to those imposed by China and major European Union countries.
Without active, aggressive White House leadership we cannot achieve that and — reality again — there isn’t the slightest hint that will happen. But in 1918 leadership came from cities and states. If governors and mayors act aggressively, especially if they act jointly, we can still make significant progress.
In April, I predicted that summer would not bring relief from the virus, and that we would experience not a second wave but continuous swells, depending on how well we complied with public health measures. Unfortunately too many states eased up too early or did little or nothing to control the virus. On the day that prediction was published, April 30, the seven-day average of new cases was 28,943. On Aug. 16, the seven-day average was 51,523.
I also warned of not simply swells but a viral hurricane-like storm surge if the country does not act aggressively and the public fails to comply. I stand by that prediction. Tens of thousands more will die on top of the more than 170,000 already lost in the U.S., and millions will suffer economic devastation.
And, in reality, all of it will be unnecessary. God help us."
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Sure the kids are at low risk for serious health complications. But think about what happens if you just let it rip. UNC has 20k undergrads living in close quarters in the dorms and in apartments in the neighborhoods surrounding the campus.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:32 pmholmes435 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:54 pm UNC cancels in-person classes after a week, moving to online only.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/202 ... 388021001/
Apparently no one has any 'symptoms'...some students simply tested positive. If that's the case, why not stay in school and let the virus run its course? Obviously if you have any underlying problems this won't work, but for the vast majority it will.
So how exactly are you going to contain 20k cases without it spreading into the Chapel Hill community generally? How do you bubble that many people? You can't obviously.
The specific thing that forced UNC's hand was that its student quarantine dorms were already at capacity. If you can't let it rip and you can't put kids in quarantine, then you have to shut down.
We moved my kid out of the dorms into an apartment for the next school year. Lots of other kids have done the same thing. Classes are already mostly online and likely will flip to 100% online at some point soon. But the friend group will all be local and so they can have some semblance of a college year. If any get positive, they can shelter in their apartments rather than being put into the college's q-dorms (basically solitary confinement).
It will probably work out reasonably fine -- although my kid may hardly ever set foot on that lovely campus two blocks away. SEC school, by the way, so they are still playing football this fall...
Boycott stupid. Country over party.
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Sure! Let's let some of the kids get really sick and maybe die! It's only a few!!!Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:32 pmApparently no one has any 'symptoms'...some students simply tested positive. If that's the case, why not stay in school and let the virus run its course? Obviously if you have any underlying problems this won't work, but for the vast majority it will.holmes435 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:54 pm UNC cancels in-person classes after a week, moving to online only.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/202 ... 388021001/
Had that big party at your house yet Pete?
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Saw this:
More than 100 million Americans qualify as high priority.
Despite efforts to develop a vaccine for Covid-19, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says there may be only 20 million doses available at first.
Pharmaceutical companies Moderna and Pfizer estimate they can produce only 100 million doses globally by the end of the year and 1.3 billion by the end of next year. SK Bioscience, a South Korean pharmaceutical company backed by Bill Gates, projects producing only 200 million coronavirus vaccine kits by June 2021. And Americans won’t be the only recipients; there are 7 billion people on the planet, and we’re only 5 percent of the total.
Even if America gets 100 percent of the available doses, not all of us will be able to get inoculated right away. As a result, the government will have to ration the doses. Clearly, “high priority” Americans should get the vaccine first. The problem is that the CDC says more than 100 million Americans are considered high priority.
These include health care workers and first responders, along with key people charged with keeping our nation safe and functioning (everyone from government officials to the military), followed by people who are at high risk of severe illness or death due to infection. The latter group includes older Americans and those with existing medical conditions.
More than 1 in 3 Americans is obese, and the CDC considers them to be at high risk, because they are more vulnerable to severe illness and death when infected with Covid-19. But the vaccine isn’t expected to work very well for those who are obese; vaccines for tetanus, rabies and polio haven’t been as effective for these people. So, should they be among the high-priority group or not? The government will have to answer such vexing questions.
In the meantime, the overall population will have to wait for more than a year to get vaccinated.
I’m not trying to scare you. I’m trying to prepare you. If you’re not in the high-priority group, you should expect another year or more of social distancing, remote learning and working from home. Be sure you have plenty of cash reserves and that you’re comfortable with the level of volatility your investments might experience in the short term.
More than 100 million Americans qualify as high priority.
Despite efforts to develop a vaccine for Covid-19, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says there may be only 20 million doses available at first.
Pharmaceutical companies Moderna and Pfizer estimate they can produce only 100 million doses globally by the end of the year and 1.3 billion by the end of next year. SK Bioscience, a South Korean pharmaceutical company backed by Bill Gates, projects producing only 200 million coronavirus vaccine kits by June 2021. And Americans won’t be the only recipients; there are 7 billion people on the planet, and we’re only 5 percent of the total.
Even if America gets 100 percent of the available doses, not all of us will be able to get inoculated right away. As a result, the government will have to ration the doses. Clearly, “high priority” Americans should get the vaccine first. The problem is that the CDC says more than 100 million Americans are considered high priority.
These include health care workers and first responders, along with key people charged with keeping our nation safe and functioning (everyone from government officials to the military), followed by people who are at high risk of severe illness or death due to infection. The latter group includes older Americans and those with existing medical conditions.
More than 1 in 3 Americans is obese, and the CDC considers them to be at high risk, because they are more vulnerable to severe illness and death when infected with Covid-19. But the vaccine isn’t expected to work very well for those who are obese; vaccines for tetanus, rabies and polio haven’t been as effective for these people. So, should they be among the high-priority group or not? The government will have to answer such vexing questions.
In the meantime, the overall population will have to wait for more than a year to get vaccinated.
I’m not trying to scare you. I’m trying to prepare you. If you’re not in the high-priority group, you should expect another year or more of social distancing, remote learning and working from home. Be sure you have plenty of cash reserves and that you’re comfortable with the level of volatility your investments might experience in the short term.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Did the same, although not walking distance. In his dorm mid Jan, 9 of the 10 were all diagnosed with upper respiratory infections, with a negative flu and step diagnosis. Every one had lingering coughs. My son is a midfielder and a very strong runner...he was spent and missed a couple practices......took about 6-8 weeks to get back 100%. Every one of them was fine with a small lingering cough through mid March.ggait wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:29 pmSure the kids are at low risk for serious health complications. But think about what happens if you just let it rip. UNC has 20k undergrads living in close quarters in the dorms and in apartments in the neighborhoods surrounding the campus.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:32 pmholmes435 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:54 pm UNC cancels in-person classes after a week, moving to online only.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/202 ... 388021001/
Apparently no one has any 'symptoms'...some students simply tested positive. If that's the case, why not stay in school and let the virus run its course? Obviously if you have any underlying problems this won't work, but for the vast majority it will.
So how exactly are you going to contain 20k cases without it spreading into the Chapel Hill community generally? How do you bubble that many people? You can't obviously.
The specific thing that forced UNC's hand was that its student quarantine dorms were already at capacity. If you can't let it rip and you can't put kids in quarantine, then you have to shut down.
We moved my kid out of the dorms into an apartment for the next school year. Lots of other kids have done the same thing. Classes are already mostly online and likely will flip to 100% online at some point soon. But the friend group will all be local and so they can have some semblance of a college year. If any get positive, they can shelter in their apartments rather than being put into the college's q-dorms (basically solitary confinement).
It will probably work out reasonably fine -- although my kid may hardly ever set foot on that lovely campus two blocks away. SEC school, by the way, so they are still playing football this fall...
The 1 kid that did not get sick, has since told us he had something similar during thanksgiving break...may have brought it back with him.
A fraudulent intent, however carefully concealed at the outset, will generally, in the end, betray itself.
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
~Livy
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.” -Soren Kierkegaard
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
I will be flat out stunned if the vaccine is delivered fairly. We don't have a system to do that.CU88 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:12 pm
I’m not trying to scare you. I’m trying to prepare you. If you’re not in the high-priority group, you should expect another year or more of social distancing, remote learning and working from home. Be sure you have plenty of cash reserves and that you’re comfortable with the level of volatility your investments might experience in the short term.
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
anybody's guess is as good as another's on vaccine efficacy and production.CU88 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 6:12 pm Saw this:
More than 100 million Americans qualify as high priority.
Despite efforts to develop a vaccine for Covid-19, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says there may be only 20 million doses available at first.
Pharmaceutical companies Moderna and Pfizer estimate they can produce only 100 million doses globally by the end of the year and 1.3 billion by the end of next year. SK Bioscience, a South Korean pharmaceutical company backed by Bill Gates, projects producing only 200 million coronavirus vaccine kits by June 2021. And Americans won’t be the only recipients; there are 7 billion people on the planet, and we’re only 5 percent of the total.
Even if America gets 100 percent of the available doses, not all of us will be able to get inoculated right away. As a result, the government will have to ration the doses. Clearly, “high priority” Americans should get the vaccine first. The problem is that the CDC says more than 100 million Americans are considered high priority.
These include health care workers and first responders, along with key people charged with keeping our nation safe and functioning (everyone from government officials to the military), followed by people who are at high risk of severe illness or death due to infection. The latter group includes older Americans and those with existing medical conditions.
More than 1 in 3 Americans is obese, and the CDC considers them to be at high risk, because they are more vulnerable to severe illness and death when infected with Covid-19. But the vaccine isn’t expected to work very well for those who are obese; vaccines for tetanus, rabies and polio haven’t been as effective for these people. So, should they be among the high-priority group or not? The government will have to answer such vexing questions.
In the meantime, the overall population will have to wait for more than a year to get vaccinated.
I’m not trying to scare you. I’m trying to prepare you. If you’re not in the high-priority group, you should expect another year or more of social distancing, remote learning and working from home. Be sure you have plenty of cash reserves and that you’re comfortable with the level of volatility your investments might experience in the short term.
as it stands, even if only one of our bigger vaccine investments pans out and has willing participants, imo we should have enough by feb or so for who wants to be a guinea pig (40-60% of the population). again, this is assuming they get a real read on immunity with one or several, and of course long term (or even short term) side effects won't fully be known as it's pushed thru.
i'd imagine you're not at present a professional financial advisor given doling it out here.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
CU77 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:51 pmSure! Let's let some of the kids get really sick and maybe die! It's only a few!!!Peter Brown wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:32 pmApparently no one has any 'symptoms'...some students simply tested positive. If that's the case, why not stay in school and let the virus run its course? Obviously if you have any underlying problems this won't work, but for the vast majority it will.holmes435 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:54 pm UNC cancels in-person classes after a week, moving to online only.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/202 ... 388021001/
Had that big party at your house yet Pete?
Why has Sweden reached herd immunity?
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
ND goes online only after 8 days.
Michigan State goes online before even starting the semester.
Michigan State goes online before even starting the semester.
Boycott stupid. Country over party.
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*sigh* That's fake news, Pete. Please try to keep up:
https://scitechdaily.com/herd-immunity- ... in-sweden/Herd Immunity to COVID-19 Fails to Materialize in Sweden
Sent out the party invitations yet? They'll say "No masks!" right?
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Duh.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/w ... Fstory-ans
"The World Health Organization warned Tuesday that young people are becoming the primary drivers of the spread of the novel coronavirus in many countries — a worrisome trend experts fear may grow in the United States as many colleges and schools begin to reopen.
Many nations in Asia, which had previously pushed infections to enviably low rates, have experienced surges in recent weeks at the same time that the age of those infected skewed younger.
“People in their 20s, 30s and 40s are increasingly driving the spread,” Takeshi Kasai, the WHO’s Western Pacific regional director, said at a news briefing on Tuesday. “The epidemic is changing.”
More than half of confirmed infections in Australia and the Philippines in recent weeks have been in people younger than 40, WHO officials said, a stark contrast to predominantly older patients from the previous months. In Japan, 65 percent of recent infections occurred in people below age 40.
Because symptoms are often milder in the young, Kasai noted, many are unaware they are infected.
“This increases the risk of spillovers to the most vulnerable: the elderly, the sick, people in long-term care, people who live in densely populated urban areas and underserved rural areas,” Kasai said.
The global health agency’s warnings come amid intense debate in the United States about whether to bring students back to classrooms. So far, at least 168,000 people in the United States have died of covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, according to a Washington Post analysis.
For colleges and universities, where students in their late teens and 20s live in tight quarters and mingle at off-campus gatherings, the problem has proved particularly vexing.
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill confidently reopened campus last week with social distancing measures, including leaving dorms partially vacant and blocking off chairs in lecture halls so students had to sit farther apart. But abruptly, on Monday, the school decided to close again when 177 students tested positive for the virus, as outbreaks sprang up in residence halls and a fraternity house.
Other colleges are reporting similarly concerning numbers.
On Tuesday, the University of Notre Dame announced that it will halt in-person teaching for at least two weeks after reporting that 147 people had tested positive since Aug. 3. Michigan State University also said Tuesday that it will shift to remote learning for the fall semester after 187 people in surrounding East Lansing were linked to an outbreak at a college bar in July.
At least 189 people at the University of Kentucky have tested positive for the virus since Aug. 3, according to the university’s website, representing a little more than 1 percent of those tested.
But public universities in several states are forging ahead with plans to fully reopen campuses, including those in Georgia and Florida, which have among the highest infection rates in the nation.
While unwilling to close those campuses, governors in Texas and Florida in recent weeks have instituted limits on bars and alcohol consumption, citing the skyrocketing number of young people who are contracting the virus. The actions came after videos of packed bars and crowded house parties with no partygoers wearing masks put several college towns on high alert.
An analysis by Davidson College in North Carolina that examined two public institutions in every state found that 23 planned some kind of in-person instruction. Experts say they are doing so in the face of stark warning signs of a potentially hazardous fall term ahead.
California’s public colleges and universities have decided to conduct most classes virtually. Several others, including Brown University and the University of Maryland, had planned to open but abruptly reversed course before the start of the school year.
Four major college athletic conferences — the Big Ten, the Pacific-12, the Mid-American Conference and the Mountain West — have canceled fall seasons to protect players and other students who would normally crowd into stadiums and arenas for games.
Students at several U.S. universities have staged “die-in” demonstrations — socially distanced on the grass with mock tombstones — to protest the reopening, amid concerns that in-person teaching may result in rapid spread of the coronavirus on campuses. In recent days, such protests have unfolded at Elon University in North Carolina, Georgia Tech, the University of Arizona, the University of Georgia and Virginia Commonwealth University.
Meanwhile, K-12 schools face similar issues. Schools in Georgia, Mississippi and Tennessee that reopened this month had to shutter or change course when students or staff tested positive for the coronavirus, forcing thousands to quarantine.
The closures have raised fears among educators who are set to return to school this month, including in Florida, where the state has mandated nearly every school system to open its doors. There, the state’s largest teachers union has sued Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), an ally of President Trump who has been repeatedly criticized for sidelining scientists and public health officials.
Many students throughout the country returned to classrooms this month only to have plans for in-person instruction derailed when students or staff tested positive or had to quarantine.
In Mississippi, at least 2,035 students and 589 teachers have been ordered to quarantine because of possible coronavirus exposure, state officials said Monday. Those numbers came after some schools restarted in-person instruction Monday, while others had not yet resumed classes.
In Arizona, one school district voted to reopen but had to cancel all classes Monday because many teachers refused to show up.
In a second news conference Tuesday that took place in Geneva, WHO officials warned school systems to proceed cautiously but also pleaded with young people not to indulge in increasingly risky behavior as the pandemic persists.
“We just need to make sure the message is getting out, particularly to young people, particularly to children and young adults, that you are not invulnerable to this and you can get infected,” said Maria Van Kerkhove, head of the WHO’s emerging disease and zoonosis unit. “We are seeing young people who are dying from this virus.”
In the United States, the virus has exacted a disproportionate toll on children of color. Hispanic children are about eight times more likely and Black children five times more likely to be hospitalized with covid-19 than their White peers, according to a study released this month by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/w ... Fstory-ans
"The World Health Organization warned Tuesday that young people are becoming the primary drivers of the spread of the novel coronavirus in many countries — a worrisome trend experts fear may grow in the United States as many colleges and schools begin to reopen.
Many nations in Asia, which had previously pushed infections to enviably low rates, have experienced surges in recent weeks at the same time that the age of those infected skewed younger.
“People in their 20s, 30s and 40s are increasingly driving the spread,” Takeshi Kasai, the WHO’s Western Pacific regional director, said at a news briefing on Tuesday. “The epidemic is changing.”
More than half of confirmed infections in Australia and the Philippines in recent weeks have been in people younger than 40, WHO officials said, a stark contrast to predominantly older patients from the previous months. In Japan, 65 percent of recent infections occurred in people below age 40.
Because symptoms are often milder in the young, Kasai noted, many are unaware they are infected.
“This increases the risk of spillovers to the most vulnerable: the elderly, the sick, people in long-term care, people who live in densely populated urban areas and underserved rural areas,” Kasai said.
The global health agency’s warnings come amid intense debate in the United States about whether to bring students back to classrooms. So far, at least 168,000 people in the United States have died of covid-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus, according to a Washington Post analysis.
For colleges and universities, where students in their late teens and 20s live in tight quarters and mingle at off-campus gatherings, the problem has proved particularly vexing.
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill confidently reopened campus last week with social distancing measures, including leaving dorms partially vacant and blocking off chairs in lecture halls so students had to sit farther apart. But abruptly, on Monday, the school decided to close again when 177 students tested positive for the virus, as outbreaks sprang up in residence halls and a fraternity house.
Other colleges are reporting similarly concerning numbers.
On Tuesday, the University of Notre Dame announced that it will halt in-person teaching for at least two weeks after reporting that 147 people had tested positive since Aug. 3. Michigan State University also said Tuesday that it will shift to remote learning for the fall semester after 187 people in surrounding East Lansing were linked to an outbreak at a college bar in July.
At least 189 people at the University of Kentucky have tested positive for the virus since Aug. 3, according to the university’s website, representing a little more than 1 percent of those tested.
But public universities in several states are forging ahead with plans to fully reopen campuses, including those in Georgia and Florida, which have among the highest infection rates in the nation.
While unwilling to close those campuses, governors in Texas and Florida in recent weeks have instituted limits on bars and alcohol consumption, citing the skyrocketing number of young people who are contracting the virus. The actions came after videos of packed bars and crowded house parties with no partygoers wearing masks put several college towns on high alert.
An analysis by Davidson College in North Carolina that examined two public institutions in every state found that 23 planned some kind of in-person instruction. Experts say they are doing so in the face of stark warning signs of a potentially hazardous fall term ahead.
California’s public colleges and universities have decided to conduct most classes virtually. Several others, including Brown University and the University of Maryland, had planned to open but abruptly reversed course before the start of the school year.
Four major college athletic conferences — the Big Ten, the Pacific-12, the Mid-American Conference and the Mountain West — have canceled fall seasons to protect players and other students who would normally crowd into stadiums and arenas for games.
Students at several U.S. universities have staged “die-in” demonstrations — socially distanced on the grass with mock tombstones — to protest the reopening, amid concerns that in-person teaching may result in rapid spread of the coronavirus on campuses. In recent days, such protests have unfolded at Elon University in North Carolina, Georgia Tech, the University of Arizona, the University of Georgia and Virginia Commonwealth University.
Meanwhile, K-12 schools face similar issues. Schools in Georgia, Mississippi and Tennessee that reopened this month had to shutter or change course when students or staff tested positive for the coronavirus, forcing thousands to quarantine.
The closures have raised fears among educators who are set to return to school this month, including in Florida, where the state has mandated nearly every school system to open its doors. There, the state’s largest teachers union has sued Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), an ally of President Trump who has been repeatedly criticized for sidelining scientists and public health officials.
Many students throughout the country returned to classrooms this month only to have plans for in-person instruction derailed when students or staff tested positive or had to quarantine.
In Mississippi, at least 2,035 students and 589 teachers have been ordered to quarantine because of possible coronavirus exposure, state officials said Monday. Those numbers came after some schools restarted in-person instruction Monday, while others had not yet resumed classes.
In Arizona, one school district voted to reopen but had to cancel all classes Monday because many teachers refused to show up.
In a second news conference Tuesday that took place in Geneva, WHO officials warned school systems to proceed cautiously but also pleaded with young people not to indulge in increasingly risky behavior as the pandemic persists.
“We just need to make sure the message is getting out, particularly to young people, particularly to children and young adults, that you are not invulnerable to this and you can get infected,” said Maria Van Kerkhove, head of the WHO’s emerging disease and zoonosis unit. “We are seeing young people who are dying from this virus.”
In the United States, the virus has exacted a disproportionate toll on children of color. Hispanic children are about eight times more likely and Black children five times more likely to be hospitalized with covid-19 than their White peers, according to a study released this month by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
o d math skills at work?
NZ surge = 9 new cases
USA "it is what it is" = 42,000 new cases
NZ citizens more important to o d than USA citizens???
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern on Tuesday refuted President Trump’s claim that her country is having a “big surge” in coronavirus cases.
Ardern called the assertion “patently wrong” when addressing reporters and argued the two countries are not comparable in their handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... g-surge-in
"On Monday, the day of Trump’s comments, New Zealand recorded nine new cases, compared to the U.S. which confirmed almost 42,000 new cases."
Overall, New Zealand has counted 1,643 COVID-19 cases and 22 deaths since the beginning of the pandemic. The U.S. has documented more than 5.4 million COVID-19 cases and more than 171,000 deaths, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
Or just more lies?
NZ surge = 9 new cases
USA "it is what it is" = 42,000 new cases
NZ citizens more important to o d than USA citizens???
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern on Tuesday refuted President Trump’s claim that her country is having a “big surge” in coronavirus cases.
Ardern called the assertion “patently wrong” when addressing reporters and argued the two countries are not comparable in their handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... g-surge-in
"On Monday, the day of Trump’s comments, New Zealand recorded nine new cases, compared to the U.S. which confirmed almost 42,000 new cases."
Overall, New Zealand has counted 1,643 COVID-19 cases and 22 deaths since the beginning of the pandemic. The U.S. has documented more than 5.4 million COVID-19 cases and more than 171,000 deaths, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
Or just more lies?
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
This must mean New Zealand has a population of 70,000.CU88 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:39 am o d math skills at work?
NZ surge = 9 new cases
USA "it is what it is" = 42,000 new cases
NZ citizens more important to o d than USA citizens???
New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern on Tuesday refuted President Trump’s claim that her country is having a “big surge” in coronavirus cases.
Ardern called the assertion “patently wrong” when addressing reporters and argued the two countries are not comparable in their handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... g-surge-in
"On Monday, the day of Trump’s comments, New Zealand recorded nine new cases, compared to the U.S. which confirmed almost 42,000 new cases."
Overall, New Zealand has counted 1,643 COVID-19 cases and 22 deaths since the beginning of the pandemic. The U.S. has documented more than 5.4 million COVID-19 cases and more than 171,000 deaths, according to data from Johns Hopkins University.
Or just more lies?
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
not really much to be gleaned from the article or the study. study is just a short compilation of stats of covid tracking and measures taken, really.CU77 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:22 am*sigh* That's fake news, Pete. Please try to keep up:
https://scitechdaily.com/herd-immunity- ... in-sweden/Herd Immunity to COVID-19 Fails to Materialize in Sweden
Sent out the party invitations yet? They'll say "No masks!" right?
sweden seems to have gotten back toward semi-normal even after disrupting society maybe the least during the spring. death rate high vs scandanavian cousins, of course. odds are they'll lose that particular numbers game given how things have gone and what neighboring countries are likely willing to do to keep their deaths and infections down until (maybe) help with a therapeutic or vaccine arrives.