All things CoronaVirus

[foreverlax]

"Every single American should be wearing a mask when they're outside for the next three months at a minimum," Biden said at a press appearance in Wilmington, Delaware.

Outside??? Like when you aren't even near anyone?

Since you seem to understand Trump's daily word salad.....outside means outside your home.

Joe means outside at all times...as in, at the beach, at a restaurant while you eat (lol), on a sidewalk, in a park, hiking a mountain, playing tennis, anything outside. He does not mean 'outside the home but only when in close quarters with other humans'. And he also means: we will fine you and imprison you if you fail to heed our laws (well Joe probably doesn't, but he also has no idea what he's saying anymore...Kamala oth does).

Democrats are not natural Americans in the sense they embrace freedom and one's right to lead your own life (you know, American traits)...they want government dictates, forced behavior, and shared misery. They are what you see in Venezuela and the former Iron Bloc.

Your reading comprehension is on par with your predictive abilities.

[seacoaster]

Fear porn!!!!!!!! No masks, and please kiss everyone you meet! Freedom!!

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/13/scienti ... ter%7Cmain

"The coronavirus is at least as deadly as the 1918 flu pandemic and the death toll could even be worse if world leaders and public health officials fail to adequately contain it, researchers warned in a study published Thursday in the medical journal JAMA Network Open.

“What we want people to know is that this has 1918 potential,” lead author Dr. Jeremy Faust said in an interview, adding that the outbreak in New York was at least 70% as bad as the one in 1918 when doctors didn’t have ventilators or other advances to help save lives like they do today. “This is not something to just shrug off like the flu.”

Researchers compared excess deaths in New York City during the peak of the 1918 pandemic with those during the first few months of the Covid-19 outbreak. They used public data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene, and the U.S. Census Bureau to conduct their analysis.

The increase in deaths during the 1918 flu pandemic was higher overall, but comparable to that observed in the first two months of the coronavirus outbreak in New York City, the researchers found. But when taking into account improvements in hygiene, modern medicine and public health, the increase during the early coronavirus outbreak was “substantially greater” than during the peak of the 1918 pandemic, the researchers wrote.

“If insufficiently treated, SARS-CoV-2 infection may have comparable or greater mortality than 1918 H1N1 influenza virus infection,” Faust wrote in the paper. He’s a physician at Brigham and Women’s Hospital and an instructor at Harvard Medical School.

The study’s authors noted that their research had limitations. The researchers said it’s unknown how many Covid-19 deaths have been prevented since the outbreak began because of modern improvements in health care that weren’t available a century ago, such as supplemental oxygen and ventilators.

The new study comes as the coronavirus continues to rapidly spread across the United States and worldwide. The virus has infected more than 20 million people worldwide and killed at least 749,700, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The U.S. has the worst outbreak in the world with more than 5 million infections and at least 166,000 deaths, Johns Hopkins data shows.

The U.S. recorded more than 1,500 deaths caused by Covid-19 on Wednesday, marking the deadliest day for the country since the end of May.

A separate study published July 1 in JAMA Internal Medicine found the number of confirmed U.S. deaths due to the coronavirus is substantially lower than the true tally.

Those researchers found that the excess number of deaths over normal levels also exceeded those attributed to Covid-19, leading them to conclude that many of those fatalities were likely caused by the coronavirus but not confirmed. State reporting discrepancies and a sharp increase in U.S. deaths amid a pandemic suggest the number of Covid-19 fatalities is undercounted, they said.

The World Health Organization says there is no “silver bullet” for the virus and health-care workers will likely need an array of treatments to help patients fight the disease. Currently, many hospitals in the U.S. are using antiviral drug remdesvir, which has been shown to help shorten the recovery time of some hospitalized patients. There are also numerous vaccines in development with at least 26 already in human trials, according to the WHO.

Public health officials and infectious disease experts have often compared Covid-19 to the 1918 flu, which is estimated to have killed 50 million people worldwide from 1918 through 1919, including 675,000 Americans, according to the CDC. More than 20 million people died in World War I, by comparison.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s leading infectious disease expert, has said the coronavirus is a “pandemic of historic proportions” and history books will likely compare it to 1918. He has mentioned the “extreme” range of symptoms people can experience after contracting the virus, including pediatric multisystem inflammatory syndrome. PMIS is a rare inflammatory condition found in children with Covid-19 that’s similar to Kawasaki syndrome and has caused neurological damage in some kids.

“We learn things every week,” he said July 13.

The researchers of the new study said their findings may help officials contextualize the unusual magnitude of the Covid-19 pandemic and “lead to more prudent policies that may help decrease transmission.”

[MDlaxfan76]

There's probably a legitimate argument that at least some of the excess deaths are not medically-driven by COVID infection. At least some may be due to crowded, dangerous hospital situations delaying care for other ailments, tragically leading to death as well.

But bottomline, preventing health systems from being over run by COVID is essential to preventing deaths (and other health costs) whether directly or indirectly from COVID.

Wear your darn mask!

Darn?? You really are riled up.

[RedFromMI]

From the Urban Dictionary:

Rat-Licker
A person who refuses to wear a mask during an outbreak of an airborne virus such as Covid-19. (A reference to the idea of licking a rat during the bubonic plague).
Example-
- Wow, you're sure back from the store quick.
- yeah, I got in and out of there really fast. It was full of rat-lickers.

[MDlaxfan76]

"Every single American should be wearing a mask when they're outside for the next three months at a minimum," Biden said at a press appearance in Wilmington, Delaware.

Outside??? Like when you aren't even near anyone?

Don't you worry your pretty little head about masks. It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.

I don't think it is likely to suddenly disappear. You seem rather delusional.

It's not? That's actually a quote from the president.

"It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear." - Donald J Trump

Trumpists regularly convince themselves that Trump really didn't say what he said...on all sorts of topics. They tell us he literally didn't say it, or they tell us we shouldn't take him literally, or that he was just kidding...

And then turn around and try desperately to criticize the words of an opponent as meaning something quite evidently not as meant. Not literally, not figuratively.

It'd be rather silly if wasn't so dangerous.

[ggait]

Joe means outside at all times...as in, at the beach, at a restaurant while you eat (lol), on a sidewalk, in a park, hiking a mountain, playing tennis, anything outside. He does not mean 'outside the home but only when in close quarters with other humans'.

Petey, as always, is obviously and completely wrong about this.

Because Joe himself doesn't do what Petey says Joe wants to do. There's hundreds of hours of video of Joe taking off/putting on his mask while outside as appropriate. And the most important part of all the mask orders is the part about wearing them while in enclosed spaces (i.e. indoors while outside your own house). Joe's recorded behavior conforms to what pretty much all existing mask ordinances currently say. Like the one where I live:

All people ages 11 and older must wear a face covering when INDOORS in a public place, including their workplace. Parents/guardians are encouraged to help their child aged 3-10 to wear a face covering.

A face covering must be worn whenever you cannot maintain 6 feet of distance from others you do not live with, including OUTDOORS.

WTH happened to UF -- that used to be a pretty good school.

Just go away rat-licking gator troll boy. Can we please get Comcast to disable the wifi under the bridge?

How's the Democrat wife liking Kamala by the way?

[MDlaxfan76]

170,000.

Yes, over 170,000 Americans dead from Covid-19.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

And Donald Trump just shrugs it off.

And Donald Trump’s supporters just shrug it off.

If they can shrug off over 170,000 dead Americans, what else can they shrug off?

DocBarrister

800,000 dead annually from heart disease and alcoholism.

40-60,000 dead annually from the FLU.

How many more viruses originating in Communist CHINA can you shrug off?

actually 12-60K flu deaths per year since 2010, but why quibble.

Obviously we should nuke those commie bastahds back into the Stone Age, that'll crush those commie viruses once and for all.

Heart disease is indeed the #1 cause of death in the US at about 650k per year, of course most of that overlaps with it being the final outcome of old age, along with cancer, the 2nd leading cause of death.

Yet most heart disease, especially 'premature' death from heart disease, is indeed preventable through better nutrition and exercise lifestyle. It's frequently the accumulation of years of bad lifestyle choices (and some hereditary issues).

Neither heart disease or cancer is contagious and they do not grow exponentially through exposure to one another.

But if you are arguing that that we should get much, much more serious about heart disease prevention, through the encouragement of better dietary choices and exercise, I'll join you vociferously. For instance, thanks to "Big Food" and numbskull voters, we have some really stupid governmental policies that actually work against better nutritional choices. Dumb. (BTW, better nutrition also improves cancer risk, reduces metabolic disorders, joint pain, and improves brain health, delays or prevents dementia... but nah, let's not deal with it seriously).

But that's another topic line.

[CU88]

From the Urban Dictionary:

Rat-Licker
A person who refuses to wear a mask during an outbreak of an airborne virus such as Covid-19. (A reference to the idea of licking a rat during the bubonic plague).
Example-
- Wow, you're sure back from the store quick.
- yeah, I got in and out of there really fast. It was full of rat-lickers.

Love this!

[Peter Brown]

Joe means outside at all times...as in, at the beach, at a restaurant while you eat (lol), on a sidewalk, in a park, hiking a mountain, playing tennis, anything outside. He does not mean 'outside the home but only when in close quarters with other humans'.

Petey, as always, is obviously and completely wrong about this.

Because Joe himself doesn't do what Petey says Joe wants to do. There's hundreds of hours of video of Joe taking off/putting on his mask while outside as appropriate. And the most important part of all the mask orders is the part about wearing them while in enclosed spaces (i.e. indoors while outside your own house). Joe's recorded behavior conforms to what pretty much all existing mask ordinances currently say. Like the one where I live:

Yeah, Joe didn't mean putting masks on while outdoors enjoying outdoor activities! I mean just the other day his caretakers had him stage a photo op bike trip and he didn't wear a.......ooops, well just that one time!

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Total clown show. If you vote Democratic, you are immediately suspected of having an IQ less than 70. Not even kidding.

[ggait]

Hey dumbass Petey --

Here's a summary of all the mask mandates currently in effect in 34 states.

Show me even one that says you have to wear a mask when (i) outside and (ii) when not close to people.

State mandates vary in details (for example, exemptions for children range in cutoff age from 2 to 12), but broadly speaking, they require masks in indoor public spaces such as restaurants and stores, on public transit and ride-hailing services, and outdoors when unable to maintain 6 feet of distance from others.

https://www.aarp.org/health/healthy-liv ... virus.html

And here's many dozens of pictures of Biden showing when he does/does not wear a mask. Including many of the one ear dangler variety.

https://www.google.com/search?q=joe+bid ... 36&bih=790

TL/DR -- rat-licker troll boy wrong again. As always!

How many fatilities in FL yesterday btw?

Answer is zero. But 147 fatalities. Even though you told us six weeks ago (when daily deaths were like 35) that the deaths were dropping like a stone.

[Typical Lax Dad]

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://apple.news/ApSWVvIhrSJuw3smWP6tU1w

[jhu72]

[RedFromMI]

[CU77]

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis warned that more Covid-19 deaths may be coming at nursing homes and assisted-living facilities, even though cases and hospitalizations appear to be easing across the state.

“Over the next couple weeks, I’m concerned of seeing kind of a tail where we start to see some of these long-term-care deaths,” DeSantis said Thursday from Tallahassee.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... hs-to-come

What?? Big D*ck DeSantis can't protect his nursing homes??? That's unpossible! He's a very stable genius who opened up his state because there was no f***ing problem there!!! Those of us who said otherwise were just dead-end Never Trumpers who love death.

Memo to PB: 228 covid deaths in Florida yesterday, 5th highest daily total. The 4 higher days were all in the previous 2 weeks.

[njbill]

Petition to recall Ron Disasterous.

https://www.change.org/p/florida-state- ... n-desantis

[6ftstick]

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis warned that more Covid-19 deaths may be coming at nursing homes and assisted-living facilities, even though cases and hospitalizations appear to be easing across the state.

“Over the next couple weeks, I’m concerned of seeing kind of a tail where we start to see some of these long-term-care deaths,” DeSantis said Thursday from Tallahassee.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... hs-to-come

What?? Big D*ck DeSantis can't protect his nursing homes??? That's unpossible! He's a very stable genius who opened up his state because there was no f***ing problem there!!! Those of us who said otherwise were just dead-end Never Trumpers who love death.

Memo to PB: 228 covid deaths in Florida yesterday, 5th highest daily total. The 4 higher days were all in the previous 2 weeks.

And he still has 25,000 more to go to get to Cuomo

Yesterdays Post standard headline State's true death toll cloaked in secrecy.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis warned that more Covid-19 deaths may be coming at nursing homes and assisted-living facilities, even though cases and hospitalizations appear to be easing across the state.

“Over the next couple weeks, I’m concerned of seeing kind of a tail where we start to see some of these long-term-care deaths,” DeSantis said Thursday from Tallahassee.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... hs-to-come

What?? Big D*ck DeSantis can't protect his nursing homes??? That's unpossible! He's a very stable genius who opened up his state because there was no f***ing problem there!!! Those of us who said otherwise were just dead-end Never Trumpers who love death.

Memo to PB: 228 covid deaths in Florida yesterday, 5th highest daily total. The 4 higher days were all in the previous 2 weeks.

And he still has 25,000 more to go to get to Cuomo

Yesterdays Post standard headline State's true death toll cloaked in secrecy.

That’s a lie.

[6ftstick]

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis warned that more Covid-19 deaths may be coming at nursing homes and assisted-living facilities, even though cases and hospitalizations appear to be easing across the state.

“Over the next couple weeks, I’m concerned of seeing kind of a tail where we start to see some of these long-term-care deaths,” DeSantis said Thursday from Tallahassee.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... hs-to-come

What?? Big D*ck DeSantis can't protect his nursing homes??? That's unpossible! He's a very stable genius who opened up his state because there was no f***ing problem there!!! Those of us who said otherwise were just dead-end Never Trumpers who love death.

Memo to PB: 228 covid deaths in Florida yesterday, 5th highest daily total. The 4 higher days were all in the previous 2 weeks.

And he still has 25,000 more to go to get to Cuomo

Yesterdays Post standard headline State's true death toll cloaked in secrecy.

That’s a lie.

FY skippy

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/20 ... crecy.html

[Typical Lax Dad]

Florida Governor Ron DeSantis warned that more Covid-19 deaths may be coming at nursing homes and assisted-living facilities, even though cases and hospitalizations appear to be easing across the state.

“Over the next couple weeks, I’m concerned of seeing kind of a tail where we start to see some of these long-term-care deaths,” DeSantis said Thursday from Tallahassee.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... hs-to-come

What?? Big D*ck DeSantis can't protect his nursing homes??? That's unpossible! He's a very stable genius who opened up his state because there was no f***ing problem there!!! Those of us who said otherwise were just dead-end Never Trumpers who love death.

Memo to PB: 228 covid deaths in Florida yesterday, 5th highest daily total. The 4 higher days were all in the previous 2 weeks.

And he still has 25,000 more to go to get to Cuomo

Yesterdays Post standard headline State's true death toll cloaked in secrecy.

That’s a lie.

FY skippy

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/20 ... crecy.html

When did Syracuse.com become the NY Post?

https://nypost.com/cover/august-13-2020/

Plus it said “nursing homes”. This was already discussed. Trying to sort out who died at a hospital that was sent from a nursing home.... it’s the second thing I have noticed that you have lied about.... unless you want to admit that you were mistaken?