2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[Typical Lax Dad]

Russian misinformation directed at Portland protesters.

So remember when I told the Forum's resident dumb*sses not to trust one single thing they see from "some guy on the internet?"

After Ruptly aired misleadingly edited footage of the protesters, a right-wing commentator tweeted the footage along with claims further mischaracterizing them, which several conservative politicians and news outlets then amplified.

Idiots. And every year, America gets dumber. Take a bow.

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[kramerica.inc]

Quoting that article:

In California, Harris built a career out of over-prosecuting kids in minority neighborhoods and doing anything to appear “tough on crime,” including championing a law to put parents of truant kids in jail.

Oh no! She's "tough on crime"! So radical!!

The more I read, the more it appears she's an opportunistic chameleon than anything.

People should be more worried about who is talking in Kamela's ear rather than her own beliefs. Because if her record is any indication, she's been all over the map. Depends on what day it is and who her audience is.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Quoting that article:

In California, Harris built a career out of over-prosecuting kids in minority neighborhoods and doing anything to appear “tough on crime,” including championing a law to put parents of truant kids in jail.

Oh no! She's "tough on crime"! So radical!!

The more I read, the more it appears she's an opportunistic chameleon than anything.

People should be more worried about who is talking in Kamela's ear rather than her own beliefs. Because if her record is any indication, she's been all over the map. Depends on what day it is and who her audience is.

It’s Kamala

[foreverlax]

a fan revisionist history. First of all, I never "claimed" anything. I did optimistically post comments early on made by Moore, Kudlow, Mnuchin, et al, that GDP could be higher than it turned out. I believe that's what you're referring to.

Right. You didn't tell me to "be patient" about both the Tax Cuts and the GDP boost.

"higher than it turned out". Dude. Every one of the idiots you cited claimed 4% GDP+. Every one of them. Don't bark revisionist history and then give me this "higher than it turned out" nonsense. 4%+ was the claim. I laughed that that asinine number then, and I laugh at it now.

You won't recall of course but at about the same time I was very critical of Paul Ryan for pushing healthcare reform when infrastructure was the obvious priority. Then the Russia hysteria BS and collusion nonsense was invented

I don't remember that, sorry, but I certainly take your word for it.

Seems pretty silly to be flexing your ego about this, post-Covid

I"m not flexing my ego..I'm giving you grief for being wrong. I'm telling you that math works. You thought I needed to be patient, and with time, "magic" things happen with math. And don't give me this "post Covid" cr*p, as if "oooooh, this was the big year that the tax cuts would finally pay for themselves if Covid didn't get in the way." Not that hard to simply say, yep, I was wrong. Please find a post where I stated that tax cuts would pay for themselves. You are mistaken and creating a false premise as usual. I may have optimistically told you to be patient but that's quite different from stating anything... or more likely, I may have simply been breaking your stones. And yes, flexing your ego... happens often on here.

Maybe next time you'll recognize when a politician is selling you nonsense, and listen to people who tell you that's not how it works. Or not. It's not like I haven't praised Trump on a number of occasions when he's done well. But you can't cut your way to prosperity when your freaking taxes are already at historic lows. Not complicated.

Remember one thing I was 100% wrong on? That Trump would invade new nations, and pull us further into the middle east. What did he do instead? He kept his powder dry, and pulled some troops home from Germany. Not a ton, but I'll take it. I'm OVERJOYED with how Trump handled our troops. A welcome surprise, and I'm happy to admit I was dead wrong on that count.

Keep laughing. We'll see how the power shifts left if Biden somehow wins. It's amazing you're so blind.

Says the guy who won't pony up some cash to back his surety. You're buying the ridiculous FoxNation nonsense of clutching at pearls, claiming the US is on fire because----shocker---places like Ann Arbor, Portland, and Seattle have serious lefties on city council. Same as it ever was. BFD. "FoxNation" your age-old retort for everything You certainly don't need Fox to see/understand what is happening. You're too smart not to notice and are just playing games. It must be that, on some level, you enjoy seeing the left gaining more influence/power.

If Biden wins? I'll give you the lefty markers, and we can have a nice, gentlemanly wager. We can pick a charity or something, and send the funds there. Might be fun.

That's it right there - we've seen the hard right and their hypocrites. a fan is correct, the hard left has been rejected at the poles.

Time for the 80% of the people who can agree on 80% of the stuff to take over, let them all be women of color...we've seen the result from same color/same sex.

[Peter Brown]

a fan revisionist history. First of all, I never "claimed" anything. I did optimistically post comments early on made by Moore, Kudlow, Mnuchin, et al, that GDP could be higher than it turned out. I believe that's what you're referring to.

Right. You didn't tell me to "be patient" about both the Tax Cuts and the GDP boost.

"higher than it turned out". Dude. Every one of the idiots you cited claimed 4% GDP+. Every one of them. Don't bark revisionist history and then give me this "higher than it turned out" nonsense. 4%+ was the claim. I laughed that that asinine number then, and I laugh at it now.

You won't recall of course but at about the same time I was very critical of Paul Ryan for pushing healthcare reform when infrastructure was the obvious priority. Then the Russia hysteria BS and collusion nonsense was invented

I don't remember that, sorry, but I certainly take your word for it.

Seems pretty silly to be flexing your ego about this, post-Covid

I"m not flexing my ego..I'm giving you grief for being wrong. I'm telling you that math works. You thought I needed to be patient, and with time, "magic" things happen with math. And don't give me this "post Covid" cr*p, as if "oooooh, this was the big year that the tax cuts would finally pay for themselves if Covid didn't get in the way." Not that hard to simply say, yep, I was wrong. Please find a post where I stated that tax cuts would pay for themselves. You are mistaken and creating a false premise as usual. I may have optimistically told you to be patient but that's quite different from stating anything... or more likely, I may have simply been breaking your stones. And yes, flexing your ego... happens often on here.

Maybe next time you'll recognize when a politician is selling you nonsense, and listen to people who tell you that's not how it works. Or not. It's not like I haven't praised Trump on a number of occasions when he's done well. But you can't cut your way to prosperity when your freaking taxes are already at historic lows. Not complicated.

Remember one thing I was 100% wrong on? That Trump would invade new nations, and pull us further into the middle east. What did he do instead? He kept his powder dry, and pulled some troops home from Germany. Not a ton, but I'll take it. I'm OVERJOYED with how Trump handled our troops. A welcome surprise, and I'm happy to admit I was dead wrong on that count.

Keep laughing. We'll see how the power shifts left if Biden somehow wins. It's amazing you're so blind.

Says the guy who won't pony up some cash to back his surety. You're buying the ridiculous FoxNation nonsense of clutching at pearls, claiming the US is on fire because----shocker---places like Ann Arbor, Portland, and Seattle have serious lefties on city council. Same as it ever was. BFD. "FoxNation" your age-old retort for everything You certainly don't need Fox to see/understand what is happening. You're too smart not to notice and are just playing games. It must be that, on some level, you enjoy seeing the left gaining more influence/power.

If Biden wins? I'll give you the lefty markers, and we can have a nice, gentlemanly wager. We can pick a charity or something, and send the funds there. Might be fun.

That's it right there - we've seen the hard right and their hypocrites. a fan is correct, the hard left has been rejected at the poles.

Time for the 80% of the people who can agree on 80% of the stuff to take over, let them all be women of color...we've seen the result from same color/same sex.

Tor the first time in Gallup's measurement over the past decade, Democrats have a more positive image of socialism than they do of capitalism.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/240725/dem ... alism.aspx

[foreverlax]

We know what we can expect from Trump...Biden gives some hope. Dems need to keep Congress and get the majority in Senate.

Gotta have hope...I hoped Trump would try for the middle to make as many people happy as he could, he could have avoided looking like a colossal failure.

NMP

" Gotta have hope"
Not to be confused with "hope and change I assume?

I'm good if change happens...

That depends what the change is.

Seems that all the change that has occurred over the past two decades has been one-sided...the party that holds the reigns.

We have seen nothing change, except it keeps getting worse.

[foreverlax]

a fan revisionist history. First of all, I never "claimed" anything. I did optimistically post comments early on made by Moore, Kudlow, Mnuchin, et al, that GDP could be higher than it turned out. I believe that's what you're referring to.

Right. You didn't tell me to "be patient" about both the Tax Cuts and the GDP boost.

"higher than it turned out". Dude. Every one of the idiots you cited claimed 4% GDP+. Every one of them. Don't bark revisionist history and then give me this "higher than it turned out" nonsense. 4%+ was the claim. I laughed that that asinine number then, and I laugh at it now.

You won't recall of course but at about the same time I was very critical of Paul Ryan for pushing healthcare reform when infrastructure was the obvious priority. Then the Russia hysteria BS and collusion nonsense was invented

I don't remember that, sorry, but I certainly take your word for it.

Seems pretty silly to be flexing your ego about this, post-Covid

I"m not flexing my ego..I'm giving you grief for being wrong. I'm telling you that math works. You thought I needed to be patient, and with time, "magic" things happen with math. And don't give me this "post Covid" cr*p, as if "oooooh, this was the big year that the tax cuts would finally pay for themselves if Covid didn't get in the way." Not that hard to simply say, yep, I was wrong. Please find a post where I stated that tax cuts would pay for themselves. You are mistaken and creating a false premise as usual. I may have optimistically told you to be patient but that's quite different from stating anything... or more likely, I may have simply been breaking your stones. And yes, flexing your ego... happens often on here.

Maybe next time you'll recognize when a politician is selling you nonsense, and listen to people who tell you that's not how it works. Or not. It's not like I haven't praised Trump on a number of occasions when he's done well. But you can't cut your way to prosperity when your freaking taxes are already at historic lows. Not complicated.

Remember one thing I was 100% wrong on? That Trump would invade new nations, and pull us further into the middle east. What did he do instead? He kept his powder dry, and pulled some troops home from Germany. Not a ton, but I'll take it. I'm OVERJOYED with how Trump handled our troops. A welcome surprise, and I'm happy to admit I was dead wrong on that count.

Keep laughing. We'll see how the power shifts left if Biden somehow wins. It's amazing you're so blind.

Says the guy who won't pony up some cash to back his surety. You're buying the ridiculous FoxNation nonsense of clutching at pearls, claiming the US is on fire because----shocker---places like Ann Arbor, Portland, and Seattle have serious lefties on city council. Same as it ever was. BFD. "FoxNation" your age-old retort for everything You certainly don't need Fox to see/understand what is happening. You're too smart not to notice and are just playing games. It must be that, on some level, you enjoy seeing the left gaining more influence/power.

If Biden wins? I'll give you the lefty markers, and we can have a nice, gentlemanly wager. We can pick a charity or something, and send the funds there. Might be fun.

That's it right there - we've seen the hard right and their hypocrites. a fan is correct, the hard left has been rejected at the poles.

Time for the 80% of the people who can agree on 80% of the stuff to take over, let them all be women of color...we've seen the result from same color/same sex.

Tor the first time in Gallup's measurement over the past decade, Democrats have a more positive image of socialism than they do of capitalism.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/240725/dem ... alism.aspx

I'd love to see how the questions were formatted - we can't even agree on the definition of socialism and capitalism....the reality, America has some socialism and some capitalism and we do neither of them by definition.

[seacoaster]

Any thoughts on the Trump Campaigns efforts at "coordination" with the "West" campaign? Do we have a federal crime?

George Conway:

“Coordination between candidates and campaigns may be ineffectual—but it’s still illegal, and possibly criminal, under the Federal Election Campaign Act,” said Conway. “Also, even apart from Kanye’s mental state, if this meeting was for political purposes—specifically, influencing the election—it was blatantly illegal.”

You "law and order" types OK with this?

[Typical Lax Dad]

Any thoughts on the Trump Campaigns efforts at "coordination" with the "West" campaign? Do we have a federal crime?

George Conway:

“Coordination between candidates and campaigns may be ineffectual—but it’s still illegal, and possibly criminal, under the Federal Election Campaign Act,” said Conway. “Also, even apart from Kanye’s mental state, if this meeting was for political purposes—specifically, influencing the election—it was blatantly illegal.”

You "law and order" types OK with this?

It worked with the Russians.

[seacoaster]

Trump squarely concedes on a Fox circle j*rk that he will not fund the USPO because it'll...allow people to vote:

“Now they need that money in order to make the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots...But if they don’t get those two items that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting...”

This OK?

What the heck is wrong with the GOP?

[foreverlax]

Quoting that article:

In California, Harris built a career out of over-prosecuting kids in minority neighborhoods and doing anything to appear “tough on crime,” including championing a law to put parents of truant kids in jail.

Oh no! She's "tough on crime"! So radical!!

The more I read, the more it appears she's an opportunistic chameleon than anything.

People should be more worried about who is talking in Kamela's ear rather than her own beliefs. Because if her record is any indication, she's been all over the map. Depends on what day it is and who her audience is.

Who cares, we've been living with that since Trump started his campaign.

[njbill]

Trump squarely concedes on a Fox circle j*rk that he will not fund the USPO because it'll...allow people to vote:

“Now they need that money in order to make the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots...But if they don’t get those two items that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting...”

This OK?

What the heck is wrong with the GOP?

Trump has asked Mark Meadows to check into whether he can ban drop boxes by Executive Order on the grounds that they will hurt his reelection chances. If Meadows says no, Trump will ask Bill Barr for a second opinion.

[seacoaster]

Trump squarely concedes on a Fox circle j*rk that he will not fund the USPO because it'll...allow people to vote:

“Now they need that money in order to make the post office work so it can take all of these millions and millions of ballots...But if they don’t get those two items that means you can’t have universal mail-in voting...”

This OK?

What the heck is wrong with the GOP?

Trump has asked Mark Meadows to check into whether he can ban drop boxes by Executive Order on the grounds that they will hurt his reelection chances. If Meadows says no, Trump will ask Bill Barr for a second opinion.

Lots of options here, to ward off, you know, votes and voting:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-BB17T7cT

Is this the USA we believe in?

[dislaxxic]

Quoting that article:

In California, Harris built a career out of over-prosecuting kids in minority neighborhoods and doing anything to appear “tough on crime,” including championing a law to put parents of truant kids in jail.

Oh no! She's "tough on crime"! So radical!!

The more I read, the more it appears she's an opportunistic chameleon than anything.

People should be more worried about who is talking in Kamela's ear rather than her own beliefs. Because if her record is any indication, she's been all over the map. Depends on what day it is and who her audience is.

Who cares, we've been living with that since Trump started his campaign.

Correct. Kram and our other Trumpist friends couldn't POSSIBLY (credibly) care about politicians that change their tunes when the wind changes direction...Don the Con has been blowing like the wind in all sorts of directions for his whole term...besides, she's doing no such thing. The right is off and running on attempts to brand her as they wish her to be...total nonsense in the Age of Numbnuts.

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[cradleandshoot]

Quoting that article:

In California, Harris built a career out of over-prosecuting kids in minority neighborhoods and doing anything to appear “tough on crime,” including championing a law to put parents of truant kids in jail.

Oh no! She's "tough on crime"! So radical!!

The more I read, the more it appears she's an opportunistic chameleon than anything.

People should be more worried about who is talking in Kamela's ear rather than her own beliefs. Because if her record is any indication, she's been all over the map. Depends on what day it is and who her audience is.

It’s Kamala

I like Carmela better, has a Soprano's ring to it. You never know if she might have someone "whacked"

[cradleandshoot]

Quoting that article:

In California, Harris built a career out of over-prosecuting kids in minority neighborhoods and doing anything to appear “tough on crime,” including championing a law to put parents of truant kids in jail.

Oh no! She's "tough on crime"! So radical!!

The more I read, the more it appears she's an opportunistic chameleon than anything.

People should be more worried about who is talking in Kamela's ear rather than her own beliefs. Because if her record is any indication, she's been all over the map. Depends on what day it is and who her audience is.

Who cares, we've been living with that since Trump started his campaign.

Correct. Kram and our other Trumpist friends couldn't POSSIBLY (credibly) care about politicians that change their tunes when the wind changes direction...Don the Con has been blowing like the wind in all sorts of directions for his whole term...besides, she's doing no such thing. The right is off and running on attempts to brand her as they wish her to be...total nonsense in the Age of Numbnuts.

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Is that similar to the Clintons and the Obamas changing their tune about same sex marriage? It seems they were both against it before they were for it. Oh what happens to peoples beliefs when the political tides change?

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cl ... &FORM=VIRE

[Andersen]

I've always thought it was a good thing for people to change their beliefs based on new information and experiences. What's the alternative?; Stagnant, inflexible thinking?

[CU77]

Kamala has had some big-time enemies for quite a while. Here's an article from 2010:

Why Karl Rove Wants to Buy the Race for California Attorney General

the Virginia-based Republican State Leadership Committee (RSLC) has dropped more than $1 million in last minute attack TV ads against Democrat Kamala Harris.

What is the Republican State Leadership Committee? A corporate front group, one of several being coordinated by old school Republican kingpins Karl Rove and Ed Gillespie.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-karl ... u_b_773868

[cradleandshoot]

I've always thought it was a good thing for people to change their beliefs based on new information and experiences. What's the alternative?; Stagnant, inflexible thinking?

That depends on whether you have a true change if heart. If your changing what you believe out political neccessity that is something else.

[Peter Brown]

I've always thought it was a good thing for people to change their beliefs based on new information and experiences. What's the alternative?; Stagnant, inflexible thinking?

That depends if the topic is a core ethic or moral, in which case you'd hope a person wouldn’t change at all. Right?