2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

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Why not let the dems start early voting this week? That should give their voters more than enough time to get to the post office and buy a stamp. :D They then have to find a mailbox to put their ballot in and that could become problematic. Does the average democrat voter know what a mailbox looks like? :D
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NY Times reporting that the last ad buy in Michigan by TP 2020 was on July 3, and has since diverted dollars to Georgia, Iowa and Ohio.
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thanks.
8 months ago, i thought yang was a nutcase for wanting to hand out monopoly money as his stump, now in 2020 he seems positively sane. party if you got 'em. dollar and the fed may be called something else a few years down the road, anyway.

someone get me outta here.
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wgdsr wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 5:28 pm
thanks.
8 months ago, i thought yang was a nutcase for wanting to hand out monopoly money as his stump, now in 2020 he seems positively sane. party if you got 'em. dollar and the fed may be called something else a few years down the road, anyway.

someone get me outta here.
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Americas cities if Liberal progressives prevail.

And its all peaceful. Nothing too worry about.


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6ftstick wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:13 am Americas cities if Liberal progressives prevail.

And its all peaceful. Nothing too worry about.
Maybe you should be worried. After all, they're coming for you. And by "you", i mean the misguided, uniformed, fully gullible Team Trump people that have allowed themselves to be conned by Dear Leader. The country is suffering under Orange Duce's misguided incompetence.

ALP's* won't stop til he - and "you" are defeated and sent back to Page 6 where "you" belong.

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dislaxxic wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:55 am
6ftstick wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:13 am Americas cities if Liberal progressives prevail.

And its all peaceful. Nothing too worry about.
Maybe you should be worried. After all, they're coming for you. And by "you", i mean the misguided, uniformed, fully gullible Team Trump people that have allowed themselves to be conned by Dear Leader. The country is suffering under Orange Duce's misguided incompetence.

ALP's* won't stop til he - and "you" are defeated and sent back to Page 6 where "you" belong.
*All Liberal Progressives




I do wonder often what libs will do when Trump is re-elected. What kind of anarchy can we expect then? I was always told that 'some' people can't accept democratic contests...will libs show that they are in fact the totalitarians among us?
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Trump’s “new tone” is racebaiting, racial fear-mongering. George Wallace 2020:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/29/us/p ... ticleShare

“President Trump vowed on Wednesday to protect suburbanites from low-income housing being built in their neighborhoods, making an appeal to white suburban voters by trying to stir up racist fears about affordable housing and the people who live there.

In a tweet and later in remarks during a visit to Texas, Mr. Trump painted a false picture of the suburbs as under siege and ravaged by crime, using fear-mongering language that has become something of a rhetorical flourish in his general election campaign against the presumptive Democratic nominee, Joseph R. Biden Jr.

Mr. Trump said on Twitter that “people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream” would “no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood.” The president was referring to the administration’s decision last week to roll back an Obama-era program intended to combat racial segregation in suburban housing. The program expanded provisions in the Fair Housing Act to encourage diversification and “foster inclusive communities.”

“Your housing prices will go up based on the market, and crime will go down,” he wrote, even though there was no evidence that the program led to an increase in crime.

The tweet, sent from aboard Air Force One as Mr. Trump traveled to Texas, was the latest example of the president stoking racial division as he seeks to win over voters in his bid for re-election. White suburban voters, particularly women, were key to his victory in 2016 but are slipping away from him.

The remarks also came just days after aides had convinced the president that his best re-election strategy was to demonstrate that he was focused on a comprehensive response to the surging coronavirus pandemic. In recent weeks, as the president’s poll numbers have tumbled, some of his advisers have told Mr. Trump to try to convince a skeptical nation that he has been effective in managing the virus crisis and is taking it seriously.

Last week, Mr. Trump resuscitated the White House briefings focused on the pandemic, keeping them shorter and more focused than the ones he conducted in March, when he often rambled in his comments, sparred with the news media and engaged in fanciful speculation, including that injecting disinfectant into the human body could help fend off the virus.

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And his tweet on Wednesday was further evidence that he inevitably reverts to his instinct to play to his base when campaigning under pressure.

During his remarks in West Texas later on Wednesday, Mr. Trump bragged again that he had ended a government program that tries to reduce segregation in suburban areas.

“People fight all of their lives to get into the suburbs and have a beautiful home,” he said. “There will be no more low-income housing forced into the suburbs.”

“It’s been hell for suburbia,” he added, before telling the audience to “enjoy your life, ladies and gentlemen.”

Mr. Trump has also invoked the suburbs to try to increase apprehension about Mr. Biden. Last week he provocatively tweeted directly to “the Suburban Housewives of America,” warning, “Biden will destroy your neighborhood and your American Dream.”

Andrew Bates, a spokesman for Mr. Biden, the former vice president, accused Mr. Trump of trying to further divide the country.

“Instead of finally leading, Donald Trump is yet again attempting to distract from his catastrophic, failed response to the pandemic by trying to divide our nation,” Mr. Bates said. “Turning Americans against each other with total lies is unacceptable for a commander-in-chief at any time, but it’s especially heinous to do so in a moment of worsening crisis.”
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Low-income housing is majority white people, not that you would realize that in your haste to stoke racial divisions.
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Trump just tweeted the idea of postponing the election from November, because mail-in voting will be massive fraud...

nah, nothing to worry about...

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With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history. It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???
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i don't think trump digests a lot of information... or isn't handed much... or is handed a lot and he reads headlines. and then he drops "knowledge".

i see that a lot everywhere. it's like we have an epidemic.
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Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:57 am Low-income housing is majority white people, not that you would realize that in your haste to stoke racial divisions.
49% white in low income housing

This is not even "code" for race baiting, it's full on. Well understood, long track record.

This is entirely about fear mongering politics, based on racial fears, not based on what is actually very good policy.

It's very clear that poor people, of whatever race, do far better, with no change to gov't support cost, when relocated to stable, middle and more affluent communities rather than the prior ghettos to which they have previously been limited. So, if we truly wish to improve peoples' lives and opportunities, we need to disaggregate concentrated poverty. This is all the more true for people of color who have been prior redlined for generations. How best to do so is an open policy debate, but not the underlying principle any more.

That fighting this good policy direction hurts poor white people in the process would never be Trump's concern. He's entirely focused on the racial fear. We (white suburbanites) notice people of color joining our community far easier than we do poor whites.

Trump's fear mongering is going to backfire as this is no longer the 20th century and most of those suburbanites Trump has been losing in droves know better. But there will, of course, be those who cheer him on.
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For most of American history, the Postal Service was a direct arm of Presidential power and political-party patronage; it was only severed from the executive branch, to be funded by its own revenues, half a century ago. A goal of that restructuring was to “get rid of the patronage, the cronyism, and the corruption that may have existed in the old Post Office,” Dimondstein, the union president, told me. “We are concerned that this Administration is going back to that type of past.”

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Only blind and deaf fail to see the race-baiting here by Fred's boy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... Fstory-ans

"Donald Trump and his father defended their family’s real estate empire from housing discrimination claims in the 1970s. The Post reported in 2016:

In October 1973, the Justice Department filed a civil rights case that accused the Trump firm, whose complexes contained 14,000 apartments, of violating the Fair Housing Act of 1968.

The case, one of the biggest federal housing discrimination suits to be brought during that time, put a spotlight on the family empire led by its 27-year-old president, Donald Trump, and his father, Fred Trump, the chairman, who had begun building houses and apartments in the 1930s. . . .

Many whites were relocating to the suburbs, and minorities often moved in to rent or buy properties. Concern about the issue peaked following race riots that broke out across the country after the assassination of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
Amid growing evidence that landlords were refusing to rent to minorities, Congress acted one week after the King assassination by passing the Fair Housing Act of 1968, which banned such discrimination.

As is the case in many housing discrimination lawsuits, “White testers were encouraged to rent at certain Trump buildings, while the black testers were discouraged, denied or steered to apartment complexes that had more racial minorities, according to the testimony.” Trump’s defense was that he did not want to rent to people on welfare, “black or white.” The suit, eventually resolved by a settlement, may have taught Trump the wrong lesson — and fixed an antiquated view of the suburbs in his mind.

Fast forward to Trump’s floundering presidential reelection campaign. The Post reported: “The Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing (AFFH) Rule, promulgated by the Obama administration in 2015, sought to strengthen [anti-discrimination laws] by requiring local governments receiving federal money to draft plans to desegregate their communities.” Knowing Trump’s background, it was little surprise that “Trump moved last week to repeal that rule, with language that appeared to hark back to an era of Whites distancing themselves from Black Americans.”

Just to make sure the message was not lost on anyone, the president tweeted on Wednesday:

"I am happy to inform all of the people living their Suburban Lifestyle Dream that you will no longer be bothered or financially hurt by having low income housing built in your neighborhood..."

The meaning was obvious to anyone with an understanding of Trump and housing discrimination. Trump is reassuring suburbanites he will protect them from those people — the sort who might have been “discouraged, denied or steered” away by racist real estate owners in the 1970s.

When Trump rolled out repeal of the Obama-era rule last week, Andrew Bates, a spokesman for former vice president and presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden, put out a statement deploring the move. “Over 4 million Americans have now been infected with coronavirus, more than 140,000 have died, and tens of millions have lost their jobs," he said. “But instead of finally leading, Donald Trump is yet again attempting to distract from his catastrophic, failed response to the pandemic by trying to divide our nation.” He added, “Turning Americans against each other with total lies is unacceptable for a commander-in-chief at any time, but it’s especially heinous to do so in a moment of worsening crisis.”

It is hard to quibble with that analysis. Trump, deprived of a record he can run on (because of a pandemic that has killed nearly 150,000 Americans and wrecked the economy), and having revealed himself once more to be bizarrely deferential to Russia (refusing to raise the issue of bounties on U.S. troops during a phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin), Trump now frequently resorts to the only issue on which he thinks he can rally his base: racism. Whether it is the Confederate flag or characterizing Black Lives Matter demonstrators as a mob of anarchists, Trump has become a one-trick pony.

Of course, the suburbs of 2020 are not the suburbs of the 1970s, in large part because of antidiscrimination enforcement. The suburbs are increasingly diverse (while cities are going through gentrification that makes housing less affordable for many Black and Hispanic owners and renters). But, it seems, in Trump’s mind — the mind that dreamed up “Make America Great Again” — protecting his people from “those” people never goes out of style
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This is who you're voting for with a vote for Trump: race-baiting, racist, divisive, and encouraging us to treat fellow citizens as real enemies.
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Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:57 am Low-income housing is majority white people, not that you would realize that in your haste to stoke racial divisions.
Another fact-less post.....

Blacks - 42%
Whites - 34%
Hispanic - 18%

White are 24% lower....
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And there you have it ladies and gentlemen. What are you gonna do about it?

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holmes435 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:04 am And there you have it ladies and gentlemen. What are you gonna do about it?

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Federal Law sets the date. So this one should be a slam dunk in the courts...
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holmes435 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:04 am And there you have it ladies and gentlemen. What are you gonna do about it?

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