2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[Oldbarndog]

I'm thinking about the future for my two young grandkids, 13 & 7 mos respectively. Enjoying every grampy moment but I'm scared "you know what less."

We require licensing, training, certification, examinations etc., for so many things. Interogative: Why can't a thorough physical, cognitive and psychological evaluation be a requirement for candidates for the highest office in the land. Seriously, these two are the best we could come up with.

[Oldbarndog]

I'm thinking about the future for my two young grandkids, 13 & 7 mos respectively. Enjoying every grampy moment but I'm scared "you know what less."

We require licensing, training, certification, examinations etc., for so many things. Interogative: Why can't a thorough physical, cognitive and psychological evaluation be a requirement for candidates for the highest office in the land? Seriously, these two are the best we could come up with.

[holmes435]

I'm thinking about the future for my two young grandkids, 13 & 7 mos respectively. Enjoying every grampy moment but I'm scared "you know what less."

We require licensing, training, certification, examinations etc., for so many things. Interogative: Why can't a thorough physical, cognitive and psychological evaluation be a requirement for candidates for the highest office in the land? Seriously, these two are the best we could come up with.

I'm no fan of Biden but he's light years ahead of Trump in terms of psychological, cognitive and even physical ability. Don't forget, Donald is 74 years old.

I like the idea of being able to test the candidates in theory, as long as a test can't disqualify someone, but instead just let the public know the results and decide on their own. In practice though it's nearly impossible. Who is going to administer the tests, someone of the candidate's choosing? We've seen how reliable that is the past few years. Do we let the other party or other candidates choose, because that would get twisted seven ways to Sunday.

Then who is doing to design the tests? We've tried to come up with good standardized tests for decades to evaluate students, and those are still biased.

In recent decades the campaign was supposed to be that test, as flawed of a process it is. It certainly doesn't matter as much any more though.

I keep harping on it, but we need to do the following if we want to see meaningful change to politicians:

1. Move away from a first passed the post voting system to a form of instant runoff. This will keep people like Trump from winning the primary in the first place, and let people vote for third parties without worrying they are throwing their vote away.
2. Institute massive campaign financial reform, especially since McConnell's Citizens United debacle.
3. Term Limits (including staff), and change how long some terms are. For example, one 6 year presidency perhaps.

[CU77]

Why Trump is going to lose by the yugest margin ever:

The implicit bargain of the spring was that if everyone complied with the shutdowns, the isolation, the social distancing, the working-while-parenting disasters and the rest, the government would use that time to build enough testing, tracing and public health infrastructure so that students could safely go back to school in person in the fall.

Instead, having utterly failed to contain the virus, the administration is now employing the crafty tactic of attempting to draw attention away from the pandemic — as if we could be distracted out of noticing that we can no longer safely leave our homes, we have no functioning public institutions (libraries, museums, schools), we have lost more than 139,000 American lives, and we are well on our way into the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.

I can’t be the only parent who finds containing my anger about this to be a full-time job on top of the two I’m already performing poorly. So many of us did everything the government asked, and officials responded by doing . . . nothing. After a “Groundhog Day” summer of no camp, no vacations, no sleepovers, no public pools, nothing to do with our children but wanly suggest another game of Scrabble, it turns out that the plan for getting them back to school was as vaporous as the rest of the coronavirus policy all along.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... rc404=true

[Peter Brown]

It’s a question and had you of read the thread and included him stating someone else was something that was an allegation based on pure conjecture then it’s a fair question as to whether he accepts the same treatment he dishes out. If he’s going to make statements about others that are conjecture then it’s fair to ask if the same statements of conjecture would be true to say about him. So no apology except to the people that have to deal with you on behalf of humanity.

6s anger and hatred of people is absurd. He has told me that I didn’t know anything or understand things. Made false claims and shot at others here for a while but like a typical resentful and bitter person who talks tough can’t handle anything coming his way. Thinks he’s a victim but doesn’t accept the problems he’s created in his life.

Two sets of clown shoes. Reading is fundamental. Lying and obfuscation is not, for someone so full of cognitive dissonance such as yourself.

So you won't admit you said in fact what you said you didn't say, and further, you won't apologize to 6 for saying exactly what you claim you would never say? Interesting decisions.

You seem to parcel out a great deal of direct personal insults, which I think we can all agree tends to be a Democratic Party leaning characteristic. That's your prerogative, and me personally, I don't care at all. But, as a small matter of advice, I'd lay off the direct insults somewhat to fellow board posters (public figures, go to town!), ultimately it's self-defeating. Use the Brook or DocB or (yes) Peter Brown method of sweeping party member generalizations.

Next.

Pretty funny coming from you, Petey.
Constant insults and vitriol, and flat out lying and misrepresentation.
6ft gives you a good run for your money though.

Here's what precipitated Geneva's slap of 6ft, a back and forth of complete misrepresentations of what others have said, either out of lack of reading comprehension or simply vitriolic trolling:

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
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Post by 6ftstick » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:55 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:34 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:43 pm
6ftstick wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:39 pm
old salt wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:33 pm
jhu72 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:13 am
old salt wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:51 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:37 pm

mdlax
ballpark same percentage of overall deaths here in MD as in NY and NJ, so did the policy make the difference or was it the workers and no PPE and testing at first?

Kram wants to make it sound like all the deaths in NY and NJ were the fault of the policy, but there's no basis demonstrated that the policy led to any of the deaths differentially.

I do think Cuomo was a bit stubborn and tone deaf on this issue, but I don't see the evidence that the policy was what drove most of the deaths, or even any particular deaths.

So financially incentivizing sending covid + patients into nursing homes didn't make things worse ?
It didn't matter ? Okie Dokie.

https://apnews.com/b29d0a5eb51a5aed21d5efe132c33374
https://www.boston25news.com/news/25-in ... EAE3P3NUM/

Mdlax
The evidence is hardly conclusive or even strong. The same %s died with or without this policy. It was probably a stupid move but hardly a reason to accuse the governors of any of these states of murder. The New York city hospital system was overrun plain and simple. That did increase the death toll. Let's hope that is the last time that happens anywhere.

Salty
The NYC hospital system was supposedly overrun yet the Comfort & Javits Center were relatively unused.
Either could have housed recovering seniors rather than returning them to nursing homes.
Ok so according to jhu and MD TRUMP is responsible for all coronavirus deaths to date.

6ft
But Cuomo Byrne et al are blameless in the 10's of thousands of nursing home deaths. Got it.
That’s not what they said at all but keep on keeping on with the lying and talking out of the wrong orifice.

Mdlax:
correct, neither statement is remotely what I said...nor anyone else has said except the right wingers making sh-t up...

6ft
Oh please. We've been told we all have blood on our hands for the way Trump has mishandled the "chinese wuhan virus"

All you and jhu do is lay blame and befuddlement at Trumps feet.

Every other post is how murderous De Santis has become because he's inept and incompetent and is a trump apologist.

Once again the liberals refrain—I never said what I said. Never infered what I inferred and I'm not a liberal!@
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I did think the subsequent exchange with ardilla added a lighter touch:

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
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Post by Farfromgeneva » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:41 pm

ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:36 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:00 pm
Couldn’t we all say that all you do is suck Trump’s d**k?
Trump has a duck?

Yes, it's a big duck, the very biggest and best duck. Some say there were no ducks before he had a duck. The duck will lead to the greatest duck a la orange ever!
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Your post is truly bewildering. I can't follow one thing except the first sentence.

I issue little to no DIRECT putdowns and apologize if upon re-reading I find one. I do enjoy filet-ing the Democratic Party and of course any public person/politician. If you happen to sympathize with Democrats, as you do, I have no doubt you take personal umbrage when I say the Democratic Party is chock-full of anti-American birdbrains...it is. But I do not say you are, specifically.

Back to the issue at hand. Why do you suppose that Democrats here and frankly everywhere always resort to foul language and direct personal insults? Have you listened to the Democrats in the street as they accost police and throw objects at said police? Notwithstanding the sheer lunacy of most of these jokers, doesn't it concern you in the least that the people you now assimilate with are so hostile if not clinically insane? It would me but I am a normal American not prone to excessive emotion on events and issues which will be forgotten as suddenly as they rise.

What say you, MD, do the attitudes and characters of the modern Democrats in the streets concern you? Are you down with ACAB and 1312 and such? How about when parents have their 4 year old daughters say "Fu@k the police" like below? Also, are you okay with the 'protesters' burning down the federal court building in Portland? Should anyone be arrested for assaulting a police officer ever again?

https://twitter.com/RodWebber/status/12 ... 00000?s=20

We await your replies!

[CU88]

Pay Attention and know your local Voting Rules. You know who is playing games to limit voting:

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... -election/

2. Putting friends in high places: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

3. Playing the system to suppress votes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... elay-mail/

DEPLORABLE

[Peter Brown]

Pay Attention and know your local Voting Rules. You know who is playing games to limit voting:

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... -election/

2. Putting friends in high places: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

3. Playing the system to suppress votes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... elay-mail/

DEPLORABLE

Here's a sampling of actual voting fraud cases in each state:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whiteh ... dcases.pdf

So weird that all of them are Democrats and Democratic wannabes. Almost all are not citizens. Gee, I can't imagine why Republicans are concerned about voting fraud in tight states like Florida since absolutely not one Democrat cares that anyone cheats when they vote.

[seacoaster]

Pay Attention and know your local Voting Rules. You know who is playing games to limit voting:

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... -election/

2. Putting friends in high places: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

3. Playing the system to suppress votes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... elay-mail/

DEPLORABLE

Here's a sampling of actual voting fraud cases in each state:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whiteh ... dcases.pdf

So weird that all of them are Democrats and Democratic wannabes. Almost all are not citizens. Gee, I can't imagine why Republicans are concerned about voting fraud in tight states like Florida since absolutely not one Democrat cares that anyone cheats when they vote.

Nice source for that “sampling.” When my kids were in middle school like you, they’d have said: “hahahahahahaha.”

[Peter Brown]

Pay Attention and know your local Voting Rules. You know who is playing games to limit voting:

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... -election/

2. Putting friends in high places: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

3. Playing the system to suppress votes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... elay-mail/

DEPLORABLE

Here's a sampling of actual voting fraud cases in each state:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whiteh ... dcases.pdf

So weird that all of them are Democrats and Democratic wannabes. Almost all are not citizens. Gee, I can't imagine why Republicans are concerned about voting fraud in tight states like Florida since absolutely not one Democrat cares that anyone cheats when they vote.

Nice source for that “sampling.” When my kids were in middle school like you, they’d have said: “hahahahahahaha.”

They probably grew out of that emotion. Others not so much.

[cradleandshoot]

Pay Attention and know your local Voting Rules. You know who is playing games to limit voting:

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... -election/

2. Putting friends in high places: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

3. Playing the system to suppress votes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... elay-mail/

DEPLORABLE

Who is going to pay for the stamps for all those mail in ballots? Clearly many folks are too destitute to afford a stamp to mail their ballot. A postage stamp is now the equivalent of a poll tax. We gots some pretty wealthy FLP folks here on this forum. Why don't yall step up to the plate and buy some postage stamps for these folks in dire need? I forgot, any time a FLP has to actually pony up their own money their rectums pucker up just like a snare drum.

[CU77]

Here's a sampling of actual voting fraud cases in each state:

"Sampling" is the operative word here, since the biggest voter fraud case ever, one that actually required re-doing a Congressional election, is for some mysterious reason omitted:

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/74680063 ... llot-fraud

[CU88]

Pay Attention and know your local Voting Rules. You know who is playing games to limit voting:

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... -election/

2. Putting friends in high places: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

3. Playing the system to suppress votes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... elay-mail/

DEPLORABLE

Who is going to pay for the stamps for all those mail in ballots? Clearly many folks are too destitute to afford a stamp to mail their ballot. A postage stamp is now the equivalent of a poll tax. We gots some pretty wealthy FLP folks here on this forum. Why don't yall step up to the plate and buy some postage stamps for these folks in dire need? I forgot, any time a FLP has to actually pony up their own money their rectums pucker up just like a snare drum.

In my district, our ballot packet will include a ballot and a postage-paid return envelope. If we choose we can add our own stamp to cover the postage fee.

[holmes435]

Pay Attention and know your local Voting Rules. You know who is playing games to limit voting:

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... -election/

2. Putting friends in high places: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

3. Playing the system to suppress votes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... elay-mail/

DEPLORABLE

Who is going to pay for the stamps for all those mail in ballots? Clearly many folks are too destitute to afford a stamp to mail their ballot. A postage stamp is now the equivalent of a poll tax. We gots some pretty wealthy FLP folks here on this forum. Why don't yall step up to the plate and buy some postage stamps for these folks in dire need? I forgot, any time a FLP has to actually pony up their own money their rectums pucker up just like a snare drum.

In my district, our ballot packet will include a ballot and a postage-paid return envelope. If we choose we can add our own stamp to cover the postage fee.

I addressed that before with no response from him. Most areas have postage pre-paid envelopes already. If they don't and if you can't afford postage or put the incorrect amount on, USPS will still deliver it for you. It's already covered. Clown questions bro.

[cradleandshoot]

Pay Attention and know your local Voting Rules. You know who is playing games to limit voting:

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... -election/

2. Putting friends in high places: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

3. Playing the system to suppress votes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... elay-mail/

DEPLORABLE

Who is going to pay for the stamps for all those mail in ballots? Clearly many folks are too destitute to afford a stamp to mail their ballot. A postage stamp is now the equivalent of a poll tax. We gots some pretty wealthy FLP folks here on this forum. Why don't yall step up to the plate and buy some postage stamps for these folks in dire need? I forgot, any time a FLP has to actually pony up their own money their rectums pucker up just like a snare drum.

In my district, our ballot packet will include a ballot and a postage-paid return envelope. If we choose we can add our own stamp to cover the postage fee.

I addressed that before with no response from him. Most areas have postage pre-paid envelopes already. If they don't and if you can't afford postage or put the incorrect amount on, USPS will still deliver it for you. It's already covered. Clown questions bro.

I don't think it is a clown question bro. The issue was brought up in an article in our local FLP fish wrapper. There were a lot of poor folks concerned about paying for postage on their write in ballots. Our local fish wrapper has yet to follow up on what the solution is. Since this is NYS I am talking about they will probably figure it out sometime in December. As of the time I am writing this nobody in NYS that is in charge of elections has come up with a solution. I am sure they will or the outrage will be loud and furious.

[6ftstick]

Pay Attention and know your local Voting Rules. You know who is playing games to limit voting:

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... -election/

2. Putting friends in high places: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

3. Playing the system to suppress votes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... elay-mail/

DEPLORABLE

Who is going to pay for the stamps for all those mail in ballots? Clearly many folks are too destitute to afford a stamp to mail their ballot. A postage stamp is now the equivalent of a poll tax. We gots some pretty wealthy FLP folks here on this forum. Why don't yall step up to the plate and buy some postage stamps for these folks in dire need? I forgot, any time a FLP has to actually pony up their own money their rectums pucker up just like a snare drum.

In my district, our ballot packet will include a ballot and a postage-paid return envelope. If we choose we can add our own stamp to cover the postage fee.

I addressed that before with no response from him. Most areas have postage pre-paid envelopes already. If they don't and if you can't afford postage or put the incorrect amount on, USPS will still deliver it for you. It's already covered. Clown questions bro.

I don't think it is a clown question bro. The issue was brought up in an article in our local FLP fish wrapper. There were a lot of poor folks concerned about paying for postage on their write in ballots. Our local fish wrapper has yet to follow up on what the solution is. Since this is NYS I am talking about they will probably figure it out sometime in December. As of the time I am writing this nobody in NYS that is in charge of elections has come up with a solution. I am sure they will or the outrage will be loud and furious.

Ok so first they were too poor to have a photo ID.

Then they were too poor to get transportation to the polling place.

Now they're too poor to buy a stamp.

[cradleandshoot]

Pay Attention and know your local Voting Rules. You know who is playing games to limit voting:

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... -election/

2. Putting friends in high places: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

3. Playing the system to suppress votes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... elay-mail/

DEPLORABLE

Who is going to pay for the stamps for all those mail in ballots? Clearly many folks are too destitute to afford a stamp to mail their ballot. A postage stamp is now the equivalent of a poll tax. We gots some pretty wealthy FLP folks here on this forum. Why don't yall step up to the plate and buy some postage stamps for these folks in dire need? I forgot, any time a FLP has to actually pony up their own money their rectums pucker up just like a snare drum.

In my district, our ballot packet will include a ballot and a postage-paid return envelope. If we choose we can add our own stamp to cover the postage fee.

I addressed that before with no response from him. Most areas have postage pre-paid envelopes already. If they don't and if you can't afford postage or put the incorrect amount on, USPS will still deliver it for you. It's already covered. Clown questions bro.

I don't think it is a clown question bro. The issue was brought up in an article in our local FLP fish wrapper. There were a lot of poor folks concerned about paying for postage on their write in ballots. Our local fish wrapper has yet to follow up on what the solution is. Since this is NYS I am talking about they will probably figure it out sometime in December. As of the time I am writing this nobody in NYS that is in charge of elections has come up with a solution. I am sure they will or the outrage will be loud and furious.

Ok so first they were too poor to have a photo ID.

Then they were too poor to get transportation to the polling place.

Now they're too poor to buy a stamp.

The article in our local fish wrapper said exactly that. There was great concern in many communities that they can't afford postage. I read it in our local FLP fish wrapper so it has to be true.

https://time.com/4547550/absentee-mail- ... vice-usps/
I just came across this. You can mail your ballot with no postage and it has to be delivered. The post office will bill your local election agency. No need to worry about postage. Some one out there is going to get a huge bill from uncle sam.

[6ftstick]

But he's EVOLVED.

biden race.jpg (51.51 KiB) Viewed 929 times

[6ftstick]

Pay Attention and know your local Voting Rules. You know who is playing games to limit voting:

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... -election/

2. Putting friends in high places: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

3. Playing the system to suppress votes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... elay-mail/

DEPLORABLE

Who is going to pay for the stamps for all those mail in ballots? Clearly many folks are too destitute to afford a stamp to mail their ballot. A postage stamp is now the equivalent of a poll tax. We gots some pretty wealthy FLP folks here on this forum. Why don't yall step up to the plate and buy some postage stamps for these folks in dire need? I forgot, any time a FLP has to actually pony up their own money their rectums pucker up just like a snare drum.

In my district, our ballot packet will include a ballot and a postage-paid return envelope. If we choose we can add our own stamp to cover the postage fee.

I addressed that before with no response from him. Most areas have postage pre-paid envelopes already. If they don't and if you can't afford postage or put the incorrect amount on, USPS will still deliver it for you. It's already covered. Clown questions bro.

I don't think it is a clown question bro. The issue was brought up in an article in our local FLP fish wrapper. There were a lot of poor folks concerned about paying for postage on their write in ballots. Our local fish wrapper has yet to follow up on what the solution is. Since this is NYS I am talking about they will probably figure it out sometime in December. As of the time I am writing this nobody in NYS that is in charge of elections has come up with a solution. I am sure they will or the outrage will be loud and furious.

Ok so first they were too poor to have a photo ID.

Then they were too poor to get transportation to the polling place.

Now they're too poor to buy a stamp.

The article in our local fish wrapper said exactly that. There was great concern in many communities that they can't afford postage. I read it in our local FLP fish wrapper so it has to be true.

https://time.com/4547550/absentee-mail- ... vice-usps/
I just came across this. You can mail your ballot with no postage and it has to be delivered. The post office will bill your local election agency. No need to worry about postage. Some one out there is going to get a huge bill from uncle sam.

But are they too poor to put it in the mail?

[cradleandshoot]

Pay Attention and know your local Voting Rules. You know who is playing games to limit voting:

1. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-19-v ... -election/

2. Putting friends in high places: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

3. Playing the system to suppress votes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business ... elay-mail/

DEPLORABLE

Who is going to pay for the stamps for all those mail in ballots? Clearly many folks are too destitute to afford a stamp to mail their ballot. A postage stamp is now the equivalent of a poll tax. We gots some pretty wealthy FLP folks here on this forum. Why don't yall step up to the plate and buy some postage stamps for these folks in dire need? I forgot, any time a FLP has to actually pony up their own money their rectums pucker up just like a snare drum.

In my district, our ballot packet will include a ballot and a postage-paid return envelope. If we choose we can add our own stamp to cover the postage fee.

I addressed that before with no response from him. Most areas have postage pre-paid envelopes already. If they don't and if you can't afford postage or put the incorrect amount on, USPS will still deliver it for you. It's already covered. Clown questions bro.

I don't think it is a clown question bro. The issue was brought up in an article in our local FLP fish wrapper. There were a lot of poor folks concerned about paying for postage on their write in ballots. Our local fish wrapper has yet to follow up on what the solution is. Since this is NYS I am talking about they will probably figure it out sometime in December. As of the time I am writing this nobody in NYS that is in charge of elections has come up with a solution. I am sure they will or the outrage will be loud and furious.

Ok so first they were too poor to have a photo ID.

Then they were too poor to get transportation to the polling place.

Now they're too poor to buy a stamp.

The article in our local fish wrapper said exactly that. There was great concern in many communities that they can't afford postage. I read it in our local FLP fish wrapper so it has to be true.

https://time.com/4547550/absentee-mail- ... vice-usps/
I just came across this. You can mail your ballot with no postage and it has to be delivered. The post office will bill your local election agency. No need to worry about postage. Some one out there is going to get a huge bill from uncle sam.

But are they too poor to put it in the mail?

Could mean free uber to drive you to the post office?

[cradleandshoot]

But he's EVOLVED.

biden race.jpg

So did Robert Byrd. If you are a loyal democrat your party will forgive you for almost all misdeeds of your past.