2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://twitter.com/colbertlateshow/sta ... 31456?s=21

[ggait]

Pop quiz: what is wrong with this picture?



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The picture on the right is from Europe?

Picture was from 2014. Pro-democracy protests in...Ukraine. Protests were against then Uke President Yanukovich. Yup -- the guy that Paul Manafort used to work for.

SMH

[CU77]

The picture on the right is from Europe?

You win that prize! The picture on the right is from Ukraine in 2014, as ggait notes above.

Probably snapped by Manafort, showing a job well done when he shilled for his next gig ...

[CU77]

Teacher: I was a reluctant Trump voter. Coronavirus is the end of my Republican identity.

Teachers don't need Donald Trump and Betsy DeVos to lecture us about how children should be in school. We know it. But we also have to keep them safe.

Nancy Shively

I am a special education teacher and lifelong Republican who reluctantly voted for Donald Trump in 2016 as the less bad of two bad choices. When the pandemic hit, the incompetence of the man for whom I had voted and the complicity of everyone around him forced me to admit that I could no longer maintain any kind of self-respect as a Republican. So even though I had voted Republican in every presidential election since 1976, I changed my voter registration to independent and I will be voting for Joe Biden in November.

Nevertheless, I am still haunted because, deep down, I fear that with that vote I may have signed my own death warrant.

I live and teach in a small Oklahoma town. It’s not far from the site of President Trump’s Tulsa campaign rally on June 20 that appears, as common sense would have predicted, to be a super-spreader event. About two weeks after the rally, Tulsa County reported a record high number of cases. I am over 60, with two autoimmune diseases. This outbreak has me worried as it is. Now, with the prospect of schools reopening in a few short weeks, I am terrified.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 485804002/

[a fan]

Teacher: I was a reluctant Trump voter. Coronavirus is the end of my Republican identity.

Teachers don't need Donald Trump and Betsy DeVos to lecture us about how children should be in school. We know it. But we also have to keep them safe.

Nancy Shively

I am a special education teacher and lifelong Republican who reluctantly voted for Donald Trump in 2016 as the less bad of two bad choices. When the pandemic hit, the incompetence of the man for whom I had voted and the complicity of everyone around him forced me to admit that I could no longer maintain any kind of self-respect as a Republican. So even though I had voted Republican in every presidential election since 1976, I changed my voter registration to independent and I will be voting for Joe Biden in November.

Nevertheless, I am still haunted because, deep down, I fear that with that vote I may have signed my own death warrant.

I live and teach in a small Oklahoma town. It’s not far from the site of President Trump’s Tulsa campaign rally on June 20 that appears, as common sense would have predicted, to be a super-spreader event. About two weeks after the rally, Tulsa County reported a record high number of cases. I am over 60, with two autoimmune diseases. This outbreak has me worried as it is. Now, with the prospect of schools reopening in a few short weeks, I am terrified.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ ... 485804002/

There are around 3.5 Million teachers. And that's just the teachers. These teachers have wives and husbands, and full grown kids.

Good luck in November, Republicans. This ain't gonna help.

[CU77]

votevets.org

#TraitorTrump

[SCLaxAttack]

… love the moron in chief. Only bigger morons will buy his explanation for why the convention is moving from Jacksonville to Charlotte. The truth, Jacksonville didn't want it, and Charlotte only wants to control the rules for people social distancing. His attempt to bully Charlotte was a big fail.

Two months ago NC Governor Scott Cooper refused to be intimidated by the moron-in-chief, listened to knowledgeable advisors including those from the CDC and NIH, and let the convention walk vs risk the safety of citizens in NC.

It only took Trump two more months to wake up. The saying is a day late and a dollar short, but with Trump it’s 60 and billions. Not to mention lives.

do you believe the governor will be able to get control of the outbreak in nc?

Honestly W, I don’t know. He’s done better than some, not as good as others. On a somewhat positive note, most days he’s kept NC out of the discussion of the ten states doing the lousiest jobs, which might be saying something since we are in the south.

Personally I wish Cooper were taking a more aggressive stance re: masks, which he has only strongly recommended to this point. I believe not mandating them is an attempt to keep moderate Republicans on his side, as this D governor is up for re-election and is running against the state’s Lt. Governor. The Lt. Governor is a buy-the-book Trump fan who’s been running on a platform of “whatever Cooper’s for, I’m against.” Cooper has a slight lead in all recent polls. He beat the Republican incumbent in the last gubernatorial election by 1%.

[Farfromgeneva]

I was in Raleigh most of last week and it seemed better than Atlanta.

[admin]

Any positive or all hateful 6ft?

Don't think I've ever suggested anything like

"you suck someone elses c**k"

not hateful on your part though

6ft, curb the language.

[6ftstick]

Any positive or all hateful 6ft?

Don't think I've ever suggested anything like

"you suck someone elses c**k"

not hateful on your part though

6ft, curb the language.

Excuse me That was said to me.

[Farfromgeneva]

Actually it wasn’t. Reading comprehension.

Now did I put up a link to the Incredibly Gay Duo in response to you and another jumping on each other’s backs? Yes, I did. But I don’t use that word which starts with a “C”. That’s for porn movies and dirtbags. And what you put in quotes isn’t even close to what I’ve ever written which speaks to how you operate. The bunker anger and bitterness shines through. Didn’t anyone tell you Barnum and Bailey has shut down?

[Peter Brown]

Biden leads Trump by 13 points in a new Quinnipiac poll, a pretty high quality polling outfit.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/2 ... ida-380369

There’s no way Trump wins if he doesn’t win Florida.

DocBarrister

The pain and anguish these guys are going to feel on November 4th will be nothing like anyone has ever seen before in anyone's lifetime. They are setting themselves up for complete mental breakdowns.

[Peter Brown]

Actually it wasn’t. Reading comprehension.

Now did I put up a link to the Incredibly Gay Duo in response to you and another jumping on each other’s backs? Yes, I did. But I don’t use that word which starts with a “C”. That’s for porn movies and dirtbags. And what you put in quotes isn’t even close to what I’ve ever written which speaks to how you operate. The bunker anger and bitterness shines through. Didn’t anyone tell you Barnum and Bailey has shut down?

Actually your words are indistinguishable from what 6 said you said. Let me post your exact words for you, to help you refresh your memory:

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
Post by Farfromgeneva » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:00 pm

Couldn’t we all say that all you do is suck Trump’s d**k?

Care to apologize to 6?

[Farfromgeneva]

It’s a question and had you of read the thread and included him stating someone else was something that was an allegation based on pure conjecture then it’s a fair question as to whether he accepts the same treatment he dishes out. If he’s going to make statements about others that are conjecture then it’s fair to ask if the same statements of conjecture would be true to say about him. So no apology except to the people that have to deal with you on behalf of humanity.

6s anger and hatred of people is absurd. He has told me that I didn’t know anything or understand things. Made false claims and shot at others here for a while but like a typical resentful and bitter person who talks tough can’t handle anything coming his way. Thinks he’s a victim but doesn’t accept the problems he’s created in his life.

Two sets of clown shoes. Reading is fundamental. Lying and obfuscation is not, for someone so full of cognitive dissonance such as yourself.

[6ftstick]

It’s a question and had you of read the thread and included him stating someone else was something that was an allegation based on pure conjecture then it’s a fair question as to whether he accepts the same treatment he dishes out. If he’s going to make statements about others that are conjecture then it’s fair to ask if the same statements of conjecture would be true to say about him. So no apology except to the people that have to deal with you on behalf of humanity.

6s anger and hatred of people is absurd. He has told me that I didn’t know anything or understand things. Made false claims and shot at others here for a while but like a typical resentful and bitter person who talks tough can’t handle anything coming his way. Thinks he’s a victim but doesn’t accept the problems he’s created in his life.

Two sets of clown shoes. Reading is fundamental. Lying and obfuscation is not, for someone so full of cognitive dissonance such as yourself.

[Peter Brown]

It’s a question and had you of read the thread and included him stating someone else was something that was an allegation based on pure conjecture then it’s a fair question as to whether he accepts the same treatment he dishes out. If he’s going to make statements about others that are conjecture then it’s fair to ask if the same statements of conjecture would be true to say about him. So no apology except to the people that have to deal with you on behalf of humanity.

6s anger and hatred of people is absurd. He has told me that I didn’t know anything or understand things. Made false claims and shot at others here for a while but like a typical resentful and bitter person who talks tough can’t handle anything coming his way. Thinks he’s a victim but doesn’t accept the problems he’s created in his life.

Two sets of clown shoes. Reading is fundamental. Lying and obfuscation is not, for someone so full of cognitive dissonance such as yourself.

So you won't admit you said in fact what you said you didn't say, and further, you won't apologize to 6 for saying exactly what you claim you would never say? Interesting decisions.

You seem to parcel out a great deal of direct personal insults, which I think we can all agree tends to be a Democratic Party leaning characteristic. That's your prerogative, and me personally, I don't care at all. But, as a small matter of advice, I'd lay off the direct insults somewhat to fellow board posters (public figures, go to town!), ultimately it's self-defeating. Use the Brook or DocB or (yes) Peter Brown method of sweeping party member generalizations.

Next.

[seacoaster]

If only you really meant "next" and "back to work."

[wgdsr]

… love the moron in chief. Only bigger morons will buy his explanation for why the convention is moving from Jacksonville to Charlotte. The truth, Jacksonville didn't want it, and Charlotte only wants to control the rules for people social distancing. His attempt to bully Charlotte was a big fail.

Two months ago NC Governor Scott Cooper refused to be intimidated by the moron-in-chief, listened to knowledgeable advisors including those from the CDC and NIH, and let the convention walk vs risk the safety of citizens in NC.

It only took Trump two more months to wake up. The saying is a day late and a dollar short, but with Trump it’s 60 and billions. Not to mention lives.

do you believe the governor will be able to get control of the outbreak in nc?

Honestly W, I don’t know. He’s done better than some, not as good as others. On a somewhat positive note, most days he’s kept NC out of the discussion of the ten states doing the lousiest jobs, which might be saying something since we are in the south.

Personally I wish Cooper were taking a more aggressive stance re: masks, which he has only strongly recommended to this point. I believe not mandating them is an attempt to keep moderate Republicans on his side, as this D governor is up for re-election and is running against the state’s Lt. Governor. The Lt. Governor is a buy-the-book Trump fan who’s been running on a platform of “whatever Cooper’s for, I’m against.” Cooper has a slight lead in all recent polls. He beat the Republican incumbent in the last gubernatorial election by 1%.

hopefully they can continue to keep the case fatality rate down and they seem to be doing enough testing. younger cohort, maybe? biggest problem seems to be in the middle of the state, not the beaches. but that could be people carrying it back and forth and with other states.

if you do suggest on how to run mask initiatives, tell them to be the first to suggest 2/3 ply.

[Farfromgeneva]

It’s a question and had you of read the thread and included him stating someone else was something that was an allegation based on pure conjecture then it’s a fair question as to whether he accepts the same treatment he dishes out. If he’s going to make statements about others that are conjecture then it’s fair to ask if the same statements of conjecture would be true to say about him. So no apology except to the people that have to deal with you on behalf of humanity.

6s anger and hatred of people is absurd. He has told me that I didn’t know anything or understand things. Made false claims and shot at others here for a while but like a typical resentful and bitter person who talks tough can’t handle anything coming his way. Thinks he’s a victim but doesn’t accept the problems he’s created in his life.

Two sets of clown shoes. Reading is fundamental. Lying and obfuscation is not, for someone so full of cognitive dissonance such as yourself.

So you won't admit you said in fact what you said you didn't say, and further, you won't apologize to 6 for saying exactly what you claim you would never say? Interesting decisions.

You seem to parcel out a great deal of direct personal insults, which I think we can all agree tends to be a Democratic Party leaning characteristic. That's your prerogative, and me personally, I don't care at all. But, as a small matter of advice, I'd lay off the direct insults somewhat to fellow board posters (public figures, go to town!), ultimately it's self-defeating. Use the Brook or DocB or (yes) Peter Brown method of sweeping party member generalizations.

Next.

It was a question. Do you not understand that?

I don’t think “we” can agree on any of your conclusions. The passive aggressive weak form attempt at subtle attacks isn’t superior, it’s weaker and fraudulent.

[MDlaxfan76]

It’s a question and had you of read the thread and included him stating someone else was something that was an allegation based on pure conjecture then it’s a fair question as to whether he accepts the same treatment he dishes out. If he’s going to make statements about others that are conjecture then it’s fair to ask if the same statements of conjecture would be true to say about him. So no apology except to the people that have to deal with you on behalf of humanity.

6s anger and hatred of people is absurd. He has told me that I didn’t know anything or understand things. Made false claims and shot at others here for a while but like a typical resentful and bitter person who talks tough can’t handle anything coming his way. Thinks he’s a victim but doesn’t accept the problems he’s created in his life.

Two sets of clown shoes. Reading is fundamental. Lying and obfuscation is not, for someone so full of cognitive dissonance such as yourself.

So you won't admit you said in fact what you said you didn't say, and further, you won't apologize to 6 for saying exactly what you claim you would never say? Interesting decisions.

You seem to parcel out a great deal of direct personal insults, which I think we can all agree tends to be a Democratic Party leaning characteristic. That's your prerogative, and me personally, I don't care at all. But, as a small matter of advice, I'd lay off the direct insults somewhat to fellow board posters (public figures, go to town!), ultimately it's self-defeating. Use the Brook or DocB or (yes) Peter Brown method of sweeping party member generalizations.

Next.

Pretty funny coming from you, Petey.
Constant insults and vitriol, and flat out lying and misrepresentation.
6ft gives you a good run for your money though.

Here's what precipitated Geneva's slap of 6ft, a back and forth of complete misrepresentations of what others have said, either out of lack of reading comprehension or simply vitriolic trolling:

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
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Post by 6ftstick » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:55 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:34 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:43 pm
6ftstick wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:39 pm
old salt wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:33 pm
jhu72 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:13 am
old salt wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:51 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:37 pm

mdlax
ballpark same percentage of overall deaths here in MD as in NY and NJ, so did the policy make the difference or was it the workers and no PPE and testing at first?

Kram wants to make it sound like all the deaths in NY and NJ were the fault of the policy, but there's no basis demonstrated that the policy led to any of the deaths differentially.

I do think Cuomo was a bit stubborn and tone deaf on this issue, but I don't see the evidence that the policy was what drove most of the deaths, or even any particular deaths.

So financially incentivizing sending covid + patients into nursing homes didn't make things worse ?
It didn't matter ? Okie Dokie.

https://apnews.com/b29d0a5eb51a5aed21d5efe132c33374
https://www.boston25news.com/news/25-in ... EAE3P3NUM/

Mdlax
The evidence is hardly conclusive or even strong. The same %s died with or without this policy. It was probably a stupid move but hardly a reason to accuse the governors of any of these states of murder. The New York city hospital system was overrun plain and simple. That did increase the death toll. Let's hope that is the last time that happens anywhere.

Salty
The NYC hospital system was supposedly overrun yet the Comfort & Javits Center were relatively unused.
Either could have housed recovering seniors rather than returning them to nursing homes.
Ok so according to jhu and MD TRUMP is responsible for all coronavirus deaths to date.

6ft
But Cuomo Byrne et al are blameless in the 10's of thousands of nursing home deaths. Got it.
That’s not what they said at all but keep on keeping on with the lying and talking out of the wrong orifice.

Mdlax:
correct, neither statement is remotely what I said...nor anyone else has said except the right wingers making sh-t up...

6ft
Oh please. We've been told we all have blood on our hands for the way Trump has mishandled the "chinese wuhan virus"

All you and jhu do is lay blame and befuddlement at Trumps feet.

Every other post is how murderous De Santis has become because he's inept and incompetent and is a trump apologist.

Once again the liberals refrain—I never said what I said. Never infered what I inferred and I'm not a liberal!@
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I did think the subsequent exchange with ardilla added a lighter touch:

Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus
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Post by Farfromgeneva » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:41 pm

ardilla secreta wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:36 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:00 pm
Couldn’t we all say that all you do is suck Trump’s d**k?
Trump has a duck?

Yes, it's a big duck, the very biggest and best duck. Some say there were no ducks before he had a duck. The duck will lead to the greatest duck a la orange ever!
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