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holmes435 wrote:
runrussellrun wrote:
kramerica.inc wrote:Invest now:

One Company Pulls Carbon From The Air:

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/10/67374275 ... atastrophe

Or....we could plant trees that Harvard U. has destroyed. Oh....whats that. Never mind.

Do as...not as.
What trees is Harvard U destroying? They have a 281 acre arboretum as well as a 3,500 acre forest they take care of.
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Geez, that poor kid’s parents need to get her on anti-depressants or she’ll kill herself before her 20th birthday!
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https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/11/27/health ... cnn.com%2F

Wait until a microbe that we have not seen is let loose because of a change in the climate. It doesn’t take much. The plague wiped out 150 million people. Yep, the planet will be fine. We won’t.
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Just like in 1990, when the entire earth dropped a full degree for close to 15 months from a singular volcano eruption. Maybe we can design a cork for them or better yet, a way to make them erupt more often to cool us all off.
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youthathletics wrote:Just like in 1990, when the entire earth dropped a full degree for close to 15 months from a singular volcano eruption. Maybe we can design a cork for them or better yet, a way to make them erupt more often to cool us all off.
It’s long term trends and over a long period of time that you enable an ecosystem to sustain itself. Go look at the Rockies.

Check this event out next year.

https://www.asm.org/index.php/asm-microbe-2019

There may be a panel discussion....I am likely to be there next year. I’ll buy you a beer. Nerd city

EDIT: Food for thought: https://www.labroots.com/trending/micro ... change/amp
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Climate has ALWAYS changed.....gravity deniers. And, lets NOT forget about the magnetic pole shift of over 1000 miles (North) in just over 100 years. Nope, NO studies on how THAT effects weather/climate. bs1

Meanwhile, you REALLY trusting microbe researchers that right this kind of stuff? (from you're link )

" Methane has a far greater impact on climate change than carbon does as well."

According to my Morrison & Boyd (yup....got a holiday Inn A in organic chem).....umm....wheel turning and it ....thunder don't get you than the lighting will.


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Typical Lax Dad wrote:https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/11/27/health ... cnn.com%2F

Wait until a microbe that we have not seen is let loose because of a change in the climate. It doesn’t take much. The plague wiped out 150 million people. Yep, the planet will be fine. We won’t.
That part in al gores movie about population and global warming (remarketed as climate change wear it's never rong ) A few billion less people would be GOOD for the remaining humans...yes? Look ....a link

https://www.sciencefocus.com/planet-ear ... te-change/
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Ryan Zinke, Into the Sunset
The secretary of the Interior departs under a cascade of ethics investigations.
Not least, with Mr. Bernhardt as the architect, Mr. Zinke recently made it much easier for oil and gas companies to drill on millions of acres of Western lands....

What this guy and his crony's are trying to do to our National Parks is a disgrace.....the good news, he is being replaced by an oil lobbyist. icon_puke
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Halliburton.....conflict of interest :lol: Investigate is just useless sabre rattling. After all, NO bid contracts are SO capitalistic .

If ONLY hillaryous had one the election.....the quiet sheep would udder not a word about her continuing Obama's fracking for NG.

It's only the hypocrites honey.....just them
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runrussellrun wrote:Halliburton.....conflict of interest :lol: Investigate is just useless sabre rattling. After all, NO bid contracts are SO capitalistic .

If ONLY hillaryous had one the election.....the quiet sheep would udder not a word about her continuing Obama's fracking for NG.

It's only the hypocrites honey.....just them
But she didn't....I am not a big fan of fracking, at least not near my well!!
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RRR, before you use this :lol: try relying on proofreading:

that "right"this kind of stuff? (from you're link )

If ONLY hillaryous had "one" the election

And then read this article on rage in America...if it isn't too long for you.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... er/576424/
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Not sure what you're ponte is. (spelling on purpose to annoy )

These people are you're people book1 Ame I macking yew angree?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-3XbycyQrk
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seriously? wrote:RRR, before you use this :lol: try relying on proofreading:

that "right"this kind of stuff? (from you're link )

If ONLY hillaryous had "one" the election

And then read this article on rage in America...if it isn't too long for you.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... er/576424/

your write.....two lowng.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv0efmUKP9s

From you're artickle......ANGER IS AN ENERGY.

Didn't know tRump was a P.I.L fan.....
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Typical Lax Dad wrote:
youthathletics wrote:Just like in 1990, when the entire earth dropped a full degree for close to 15 months from a singular volcano eruption. Maybe we can design a cork for them or better yet, a way to make them erupt more often to cool us all off.
It’s long term trends and over a long period of time that you enable an ecosystem to sustain itself. Go look at the Rockies.

Check this event out next year.

https://www.asm.org/index.php/asm-microbe-2019

There may be a panel discussion....I am likely to be there next year. I’ll buy you a beer. Nerd city

EDIT: Food for thought: https://www.labroots.com/trending/micro ... change/amp
That’s alright, places like North Carolina are getting snow year after year like no time in history. Weather patterns change and can be historically linked.

I had the great pleasure of speaking with a high ranking official from OFCM this weekend. This will be the 2nd person I’ve spoken with on the subject, with a combined 60 plus years of service in all disciplines of meteorology. Which also include times spent as leaders of NORAD and NOAA.

Each of them, being paid federal employees, were quite reserved on what they would chat about in a public setting...reading between the lines each were clearly calling BS and drawing attention to the tons of money being made by places that NEED money flowing in to stay afloat. These institutions are being paid to write papers on something to which provides the answers "needed" AND keeps the cash flowing.

Bring up CO2 they snicker as any cause, bring up rising temperatures....they say go check the record books, stats, and compare solar activity with climate and realted anomalies. In the late 1930's when New England was hit with a catastrophic hurricane, there were also corresponding North American greatest fires beyond anything seen prior, to include Vancouver (worst in their history), and the Bloedel fires. When you compare this data with the height of solar activity...well see for your self below.

These two gentleman suggest that we could remove co2 back to its 19th century avg. and it would not change much of anything. The rise in CO2 level is really just the by product of humans...period. end. Our tongue and cheek joke....if the so called scientist want to really solve the CO2 issue...they need to find a way to encourage people to go to heaven sooner, rather than later.

More on the topic of solar and climate

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youthathletics wrote: Each of them, being paid federal employees, were quite reserved on what they would chat about in a public setting...reading between the lines each were clearly calling BS and drawing attention to the tons of money being made by places that NEED money flowing in to stay afloat. These institutions are being paid to write papers on something to which provides the answers "needed" AND keeps the cash flowing.
What places are these that NEED money flowing in to stay afloat. This is the perennial bogeyman we hear about from C&S and others, with little actual data to show us. I imagine these places could make tons more money if they were pushing energy company agendas. Do you know how much more money energy companies and others are making off of existing practices? It makes the those places look like chump change and they want that gravy train to continue.
youthathletics wrote: These two gentleman suggest that we could remove co2 back to its 19th century avg. and it would not change much of anything. The rise in CO2 level is really just the by product of humans...period. end. Our tongue and cheek joke....if the so called scientist want to really solve the CO2 issue...they need to find a way to encourage people to go to heaven sooner, rather than later.
This is very true, and certainly an area we need to address at some point - we can't continue to grow our population at an exponential rate. We have to solve it somehow or nature will solve it for us in a much nastier way.
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global warming not mentioned once.....

https://www.nps.gov/acad/learn/historyc ... of1947.htm

The Fire
On Friday, October 17, 1947, at 4 p.m., the fire department received a call from Mrs. Gilbert, who lived near Dolliver’s dump on Crooked Road west of Hulls Cove. She reported smoke rising from a cranberry bog between her home and the dump. No one knows what started the fire. It could have been cranberry pickers smoking cigarettes in the bog. Or perhaps it was sunlight shining through a piece of broken glass in the dump that acted like an incendiary magnifying glass. Whatever the cause, once ignited, the fire smoldered underground. From this quiet beginning arose an inferno that burned nearly half of the eastern side of Mount Desert Island and made international news.

In all, some 17,188 acres burned. More than 10,000 acres were in Acadia National Park. Property damage exceeded $23 million dollars. Considering the magnitude of the fire, loss of human life had been minimal.

The fire on Mount Desert Island was publicized in headlines in newspapers around the world because the island was a renowned summer retreat for the wealthy. But actually, the fall of 1947 was a dry one throughout the state, and many serious fires occurred. State-wide, more than 200,000 acres, 851 permanent homes, and 397 seasonal cottages were destroyed in "the year Maine burned."


More extreme weather events............ icon_puke
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holmes435 wrote:
youthathletics wrote: Each of them, being paid federal employees, were quite reserved on what they would chat about in a public setting...reading between the lines each were clearly calling BS and drawing attention to the tons of money being made by places that NEED money flowing in to stay afloat. These institutions are being paid to write papers on something to which provides the answers "needed" AND keeps the cash flowing.
What places are these that NEED money flowing in to stay afloat. This is the perennial bogeyman we hear about from C&S and others, with little actual data to show us. I imagine these places could make tons more money if they were pushing energy company agendas. Do you know how much more money energy companies and others are making off of existing practices? It makes the those places look like chump change and they want that gravy train to continue.
youthathletics wrote: These two gentleman suggest that we could remove co2 back to its 19th century avg. and it would not change much of anything. The rise in CO2 level is really just the by product of humans...period. end. Our tongue and cheek joke....if the so called scientist want to really solve the CO2 issue...they need to find a way to encourage people to go to heaven sooner, rather than later.
This is very true, and certainly an area we need to address at some point - we can't continue to grow our population at an exponential rate. We have to solve it somehow or nature will solve it for us in a much nastier way.
What did you think of tld's LINK about Harvard destroying the rain forest? What kind of data are you willing to accept regarding funds to stay "afloat" book1

I posted many a link on the ole LP........often getting "timeouts" b/c that was NOT topical to the thread bang1 "oooww that smell....can't you smell that smell...that smell is all around you" Tough to debate with the master moderators, b/c after all, it's SETTLED icon_puke
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runrussellrun wrote: What did you think of tld's LINK about Harvard destroying the rain forest? What kind of data are you willing to accept regarding funds to stay "afloat" book1

I posted many a link on the ole LP........often getting "timeouts" b/c that was NOT topical to the thread bang1 "oooww that smell....can't you smell that smell...that smell is all around you" Tough to debate with the master moderators, b/c after all, it's SETTLED icon_puke
Well, from the article: "It is hard to determine whether Harvard’s timber plantations are responsibly managed or not. Many are already certified by the Forest Stewardship Council, an independent nonprofit that purports to identify responsibly managed forests" - I didn't really see anything in there about Harvard contributing directly to destroying the rain forest.

It was interesting, I'd like to see what kind of impact those timber plantations actually have. If you have more information about it than a blog post, please share it with us. It looks like they've been selling some investments off due to poor fiscal performance. Old growth forests have been wiped out in vasts swaths around the US and aren't coming back anytime soon without major investment (see the long leaf pine debacle among others), but sustainable tree farming with fast growth slash pines and other wood is certainly necessary for many things.

What do you think of Brazil's new president? Or about Harvard's commitment to proper sustainable forest management and existing forest preservation? At least some institutions seem to be learning and growing.
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youthathletics wrote: Image
The green and blue curves are obviously much more closely correlated than the red curve. Are the r^2's computed in any of those links of yours? I bet not.

And why is sunspot cycle length (the y-axis for the red curve) any sort of relevant variable in the first place??
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