I'd assume that they are being 'ordered'...but these guys know they don't have any identification, no body cameras, and in full armor, weapons, etc...what 'orders' would they refuse?cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:36 amAre they accountable?? Good question, I do know they are being ordered to do what they are doing. I for the life of me have no idea why the feds would let their people get involved in this chit storm in Portland. They should be watching it all happen on TV, eating popcorn and laughing at the Keystone cops in Portland chasing their tails. If Portland wants to tolerate this anarchy in their city, then so be it.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:28 amIt's ok that we agree.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:24 amThis is one of those rare occasions MD. I could not agree with you more. I would not call them goons. They are only doing what they have been ordered to do. What they have been ordered to do is bizarre by any standard. If the folks in Portland want to burn their city down and the police don't give a chit about them doing it... let em burn it down. I just hope when the fires go out the the folks that run Portland don't come crying to the federal government for money to repair the carnage. As far as I'm concerned the folks that run Portland can figure that one out all on their own. To sort of paraphrase something a Fan might say... you burn it you buy it.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:04 amno, they act like goons with batons and without any accountability. Combat gear, no identification.6ftstick wrote: ↑Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:58 amSo its GOONS protecting citizens, property and freedom of law abiding citizens and patriotic misunderstood patriots (marxists and anarchists) burning pillaging and clubbing people for 49 days straight.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:35 pmHow old are you youth?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:44 pmSecret ?... did Nancy or Chuck tell you that. Their uniforms are marked.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:32 pmignorant?youthathletics wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:24 pmWhy do you associate military with gunning people down, that is such an ignorant comment?MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:20 pmor would I and many others be in the streets with my guns fighting for the protestors?kramerica.inc wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:12 pmIf Trump is who you keep saying he is, those protests would already be over.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:27 pmSome of you don’t even recall recent news.wgdsr wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:21 pmwhy on earth would you advise him to slow this roll?a fan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:17 pmYes. Sell it somewhere else.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:11 pm Do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?
President Donald Trump on Friday seemingly urged the shooting of looters in Minnesota, fueling the national unrest sparked by the death of an African-American man in police custody with a call for military violence against U.S. citizens so extraordinary that it was partially obscured by Twitter.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/2 ... ers-288406
Some of you don’t really understand the man we’re dealing with, do you?
DocBarrister
You seriously think these protests would be "over" if police or military started gunning down protestors ala Kent State?
Thank god most of the military rejects this garbage from Trump. And so do most of the police.
Kent State was military, National Guard, yes, but military. Police in Chicago.
Right now we have some sort of 'secret police' supposedly some sort of mixed bag under DHS? or DOJ? in militarized, unmarked garb, full body armor and weaponry, taking people off the street.
"Trump threatens to unleash gunfire"...POTUS doesn't command the local and state police, so who do you think he's talking about?
Kent State....sheesh. Do you still wear bell bottoms and butterfly collars.
Nope I was crew cut, black glasses, flat top in that era...but Kent State was a big eye opener...and so was Dem convention in Chicago...
So, you're telling us that all the videos of these goons are inaccurate, their uniforms are actually marked, we know who they are, badge #'s, who they report to, etc?
How you liberal progressives play with the language. And don't give us this crapola any more that you're a republican centrists.
Attacking and hitting people who pose no physical threat?
If you don't think that's "goons", I can't help you.
I'm fine with official police protecting property, (though not with the degree of violence against peaceful protestors we've seen), because they are identifiable and accountable, as are their commanders and those they report to, but unaccountable "goons", this is third world.
The "feds" are not 'let'ting "their people get involved", someone in the federal government is ordering it, this way, presumably at the behest of the POTUS. But no accountability.