2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[DocBarrister]

You don’t have to take my word that Trump may not accept the results of the 2020 election. Just ask Trump.

Wallace pressed Trump on whether he will accept the results of the 2020 election, but Trump declined to answer the question directly.

"I have to see. Look, you—I have to see," he said. "No, I'm not going to just say yes. I'm not going to say no."

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/19/preside ... polls.html

Name one other president who has refused to commit to accepting election results.

Many of Trump’s supporters are Neo-Nazis and white supremacists. Is it any wonder that Trump is reportedly forming his own Gestapo-like paramilitary force?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/17/us/p ... Position=2

Might such a paramilitary force come in handy if Trump concludes he was “cheated” out of re-election?

Think of everything that Trump’s supporters have let him get away with, including coercing a foreign government to interfere in an American election and an allegation that he raped a 13 year old girl.

If he uses his own Gestapo to “correct” an election that he loses, do you think his Neo-Nazi and white supremacist supporters would object? How about his supporters on our little forum? Anyone certain that they would all object?

Don’t ever think there is a line Trump and his supporters won’t cross. Look at their complete indifference to over 140,000 dead Americans.

Do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?

Ask the kid in Portland who had his face shattered by Trump’s federal agents what he thinks about that.

DocBarrister

[a fan]

Do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?

Yes. Sell it somewhere else.

[DocBarrister]

Do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?

Yes. Sell it somewhere else.

You’re a fool.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump told his advisors at one point this past week he wanted 10,000 troops to deploy to the Washington D.C. area to halt civil unrest over the killing of a black man by Minneapolis police, according to a senior U.S. official.

The account of Trump's demand during a heated Oval Office conversation on Monday shows how close the president may have come to fulfilling his threat to deploy active duty troops in U.S. cities, despite opposition from Pentagon leadership.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reu ... SKBN23E0DY

DocBarrister

[wgdsr]

Do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?

Yes. Sell it somewhere else.

why on earth would you advise him to slow this roll?

[a fan]

Do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?

Yes. Sell it somewhere else.

You’re a fool.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump told his advisors at one point this past week he wanted 10,000 troops to deploy to the Washington D.C. area to halt civil unrest over the killing of a black man by Minneapolis police, according to a senior U.S. official.

No, you can't read.

You said, and I quote, "do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?"

So don't hand me a reuters piece, and pretend like Trump trying to quell civil unrest is the same thing as "shooting protesters in order to stay in power".

The Reuters piece doesn't claim Trump ordered troops to shoot protestors.

The Reuters piece also doesn't claim that Trump sent Troops to DC to "stay in power".

Your citation has NOTHING to do with your paranoid claims. If and when Trump loses the election? He's out in late January, without difficulty.

[DocBarrister]

Do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?

Yes. Sell it somewhere else.

why on earth would you advise him to slow this roll?

Some of you don’t even recall recent news.

President Donald Trump on Friday seemingly urged the shooting of looters in Minnesota, fueling the national unrest sparked by the death of an African-American man in police custody with a call for military violence against U.S. citizens so extraordinary that it was partially obscured by Twitter.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/2 ... ers-288406

Some of you don’t really understand the man we’re dealing with, do you?

DocBarrister

[DocBarrister]

Do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?

Yes. Sell it somewhere else.

You’re a fool.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump told his advisors at one point this past week he wanted 10,000 troops to deploy to the Washington D.C. area to halt civil unrest over the killing of a black man by Minneapolis police, according to a senior U.S. official.

No, you can't read.

You said, and I quote, "do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?"

So don't hand me a reuters piece, and pretend like Trump trying to quell civil unrest is the same thing as "shooting protesters in order to stay in power".

The Reuters piece doesn't claim Trump ordered troops to shoot protestors.

The Reuters piece also doesn't claim that Trump sent Troops to DC to "stay in power".

Your citation has NOTHING to do with your paranoid claims. If and when Trump loses the election? He's out in late January, without difficulty.

Here, learn something about the man we’re discussing.

Trump Threatens White House Protesters With ‘Vicious Dogs’ and ‘Ominous Weapons’

... A day after claiming he didn’t mean to suggest that law enforcement officials should shoot people who were part of the unrest in Minnesota, President Trump said on Saturday that the Secret Service had been prepared to sic the “most vicious dogs” on protesters outside the White House gates on Friday night.

... Mr. Trump claimed that Secret Service agents had told him they were clamoring for engagement with the protesters. “We put the young ones on the front line, sir, they love it, and good practice,” he said he had been told.

... Mr. Trump’s renewed threat of violence against the protesters came as protests erupted in cities across the country.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/30/us/p ... apons.html

It seems that the one lesson Trump has learned in his life is that he can get away with anything ...

... draft dodging, racial discrimination, bankruptcies, raping and assaulting women, violating campaign finance laws, committing impeachable offenses, letting over 140,000 Americans die ...

... and you don’t think it is possible that he might use force to stay in power, especially if he’s worried about going to prison?

You haven’t been paying attention.

DocBarrister

[DocBarrister]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... on/608989/

Some of the Constitutional issues are discussed in the above article.

1. The election tightens and Biden wins a close election with something around 279 electoral votes.

2. Biden’s win relies in part on victories in states where Republicans control the legislature or state election office (e.g., Florida or North Carolina).

3. Trump, citing alleged voter fraud, refuses to acknowledge the close loss and works with the Republican legislature in those states to prevent certification of the state election results (or refuse to send electors to participate in the electoral college).

4. This effectively leaves neither Biden nor Trump with the necessary 270 electoral votes.

5. The conservative majority in the Supreme Court backs this up, acknowledging the power of states to certify their own elections and appoint their own electors.

6. The Twelfth Amendment kicks in, sending the election to Congress. States vote as a block.

7. Despite Democrats controlling the House, Republicans actually control more state delegations, and throw the election to Trump.

8. Massive protests erupt nationwide, decrying Trump’s coup.

9. Deriding protestors as violent anarchists and “Antifa” trying to stage a coup, Trumps calls on his supporters to deploy civilian militias. He orders the Department of Homeland Security and Department of Defense to end the protests, with force if necessary.

10. Thousands of protesters are killed as militias, DHS, and, in some locations, local police fire on protesters.

11. AG Barr arrests Biden and other Democratic leaders for fomenting a violent insurrection.

12. Trump remains president despite losing the election.

After everything we have seen in the past year, is this scenario likely? No.

Possible? You’re an idiot if you say no.

DocBarrister

[wgdsr]

whar should we be doing in preparation?

[kramerica.inc]

Do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?

Yes. Sell it somewhere else.

why on earth would you advise him to slow this roll?

Some of you don’t even recall recent news.

President Donald Trump on Friday seemingly urged the shooting of looters in Minnesota, fueling the national unrest sparked by the death of an African-American man in police custody with a call for military violence against U.S. citizens so extraordinary that it was partially obscured by Twitter.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/2 ... ers-288406

Some of you don’t really understand the man we’re dealing with, do you?

DocBarrister

If Trump is who you keep saying he is, those protests would already be over.

[kramerica.inc]

whar should we be doing in preparation?

Trusting in government to protest us.

[DocBarrister]

whar should we be doing in preparation?

First, push against Trump’s efforts at creating his own militia within DHS.

Second, vote and hope Biden wins big. Trump will not readily concede a close election, especially if he fears criminal prosecution once out of office.

DocBarrister

[DocBarrister]

whar should we be doing in preparation?

Trusting in government to protest us.

Trump has already politicized the Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, Department of State, and, to some extent, the Department of Defense.

We can’t rely on Trump’s government to protect our democracy and the American People.

DocBarrister

[wgdsr]

whar should we be doing in preparation?

First, push against Trump’s efforts at creating his own militia within DHS.

Second, vote and hope Biden wins big. Trump will not readily concede a close election, especially if he fears criminal prosecution once out of office.

DocBarrister

ok.
let's do this and what we have to.
this sounds really scary.

[MDlaxfan76]

Do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?

Yes. Sell it somewhere else.

why on earth would you advise him to slow this roll?

Some of you don’t even recall recent news.

President Donald Trump on Friday seemingly urged the shooting of looters in Minnesota, fueling the national unrest sparked by the death of an African-American man in police custody with a call for military violence against U.S. citizens so extraordinary that it was partially obscured by Twitter.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/2 ... ers-288406

Some of you don’t really understand the man we’re dealing with, do you?

DocBarrister

If Trump is who you keep saying he is, those protests would already be over.

or would I and many others be in the streets with my guns fighting for the protestors?

You seriously think these protests would be "over" if police or military started gunning down protestors ala Kent State?

Thank god most of the military rejects this garbage from Trump. And so do most of the police.

[DMac]

whar should we be doing in preparation?

Expand your home arsenal, there's going to be one helluva brouhaha!!

brou·ha·ha
/ˈbro͞ohäˌhä/
Learn to pronounce
noun
a noisy and overexcited reaction or response to something.
"all that election brouhaha"

[CU77]

whar should we be doing in preparation?

Being ready to march in the streets if Trump refuses to accept the results of a lawful election, as he just said on national TV that he might do if he feels like it.

Meanwhile, you can contribute to Republican Voters Against Trump and the Republican-run Lincoln Project:

https://rvat.org

https://lincolnproject.us

You can also lobby your Republican Senators to pass the Heroes Act, which includes $3.6 billion in election funding to expand vote by mail and safe in-person voting locations, and $25 billion in funding for the United States Postal Service.

[kramerica.inc]

whar should we be doing in preparation?

Trusting in government to protest us.

Trump has already politicized the Department of Justice, Department of Homeland Security, Department of State, and, to some extent, the Department of Defense.

We can’t rely on ANY government to protect our democracy and the American People.

DocBarrister

Fixed it for ya.

[youthathletics]

Do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?

Yes. Sell it somewhere else.

why on earth would you advise him to slow this roll?

Some of you don’t even recall recent news.

President Donald Trump on Friday seemingly urged the shooting of looters in Minnesota, fueling the national unrest sparked by the death of an African-American man in police custody with a call for military violence against U.S. citizens so extraordinary that it was partially obscured by Twitter.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/2 ... ers-288406

Some of you don’t really understand the man we’re dealing with, do you?

DocBarrister

If Trump is who you keep saying he is, those protests would already be over.

or would I and many others be in the streets with my guns fighting for the protestors?

You seriously think these protests would be "over" if police or military started gunning down protestors ala Kent State?

Thank god most of the military rejects this garbage from Trump. And so do most of the police.

Why do you associate military with gunning people down, that is such an ignorant comment?

[CU77]

Do you really think it is beyond Trump to order the shooting of protesters in order to stay in power?

Ask the kid in Portland who had his face shattered by Trump’s federal agents what he thinks about that.

I was 15 years old and 10 miles away when National Guard troops opened fire on peaceful protestors at Kent State:

Twenty-eight National Guard soldiers fired approximately 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others. Students Allison Beth Krause, 19, Jeffrey Glenn Miller, 20, Sandra Lee Scheuer, 20, and William Knox Schroeder, 19, were killed and nine others were injured, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis. All perished at the scene except Schroeder, who was pronounced dead at Robinson Memorial Hospital in nearby Ravenna shortly afterward.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

Can't happen here? Already did.

Not the only incident either. Look up President Hoover and the Bonus Army.