2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[njbill]

Per a new Monmouth poll, Biden is up 13% in Pennsylvania.

A question, are people telling the truth? I think that just like in 2016, people don't want anyone to know that they are voting for o d. Yet, when the the voting booth the cast their vote for the racist bigot.

Polls may be directionaly correct, but like last time - I suspect there are a lot of pending Trump voters who will either not admit it, or just plain not participate in the polling processes.

Perhaps even more so this time around.

n 2016, we had a good guide in the Brexit polls. Less to base gut feelings on this time around, but my gut is telling me that a 7-8 point lead in the polls for Biden will equate to a dead heat in actual voting (versus my view of a 4 point polling lead for HRC equating to "even" in 2016.

We will see in November....

The last polls in 2016 showed Hillary ahead by anywhere from 1% to 5%. Most had the margin around 3%. She won by 2%. This was within the margin of error for the large majority of polls.

It was the polling in the key states that was off. Obviously this is critical. Will Biden’s lead in these states evaporate as Hillary’s did? Stay tuned.

[HooDat]

Per a new Monmouth poll, Biden is up 13% in Pennsylvania.

A question, are people telling the truth? I think that just like in 2016, people don't want anyone to know that they are voting for o d. Yet, when the the voting booth the cast their vote for the racist bigot.

Polls may be directionaly correct, but like last time - I suspect there are a lot of pending Trump voters who will either not admit it, or just plain not participate in the polling processes.

Perhaps even more so this time around.

n 2016, we had a good guide in the Brexit polls. Less to base gut feelings on this time around, but my gut is telling me that a 7-8 point lead in the polls for Biden will equate to a dead heat in actual voting (versus my view of a 4 point polling lead for HRC equating to "even" in 2016.

We will see in November....

Based on general observations of which party supports what, it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

kind of a non sequitur to a discussion on polling ?

[CU77]

Based on general observations of which party supports what, it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

You meant to say "Democrat Party".

You're not following instructions properly from your dear leader.

[CU77]

Trump has lost white women: In 2016, Hillary Clinton lost white women (45-47). In the Quinnipiac poll, Biden leads among white women (55-38). It’s likely that Trump lost so much ground among white women due to a range of policies, from his treatment of women and children at the border to his incendiary language to his lack of concern for the health of schoolchildren returning in the fall. In doing so, he managed to alienate not just a group he won narrowly, but that Republicans have been winning consistently. (These voters went for George W. Bush in 2004, John McCain in 2008 and Mitt Romney in 2012.)

Trump has lost older voters: Older voters (65 and above) went for Trump in 2016 by nine points. It was probably bad strategy to threaten to take away Medicaid (via elimination of the Affordable Care Act), which funds nursing home costs, and to be cavalier about older voters’ vulnerability during the pandemic. Because these voters (like women) tend to turn out in greater numbers than other segments of the electorate, this is particularly bad news for Trump, especially in states with large numbers of seniors and surging coronavirus cases (e.g., Florida and Arizona).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... -so-badly/

[CU77]

Latest from Gallup:

U.S. Party Preferences Have Swung Sharply Toward Democrats

https://news.gallup.com/poll/315734/par ... crats.aspx

Heck of a job Donnie!

You successfully conned the vast majority of Republicans into following you, despite your venality, racism, and incompetence.

Now, like the people you conned into investing in your bankrupt casinos and your worthless Trump U courses and those Mexican condos that you never built, the Republicans are starting to wake up to the fact of just how badly you scammed them.

[ggait]

Latest from Gallup:
U.S. Party Preferences Have Swung Sharply Toward Democrats

it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

Interesting that Petey thinks 51% of the country is anti-American...

Only 39% (GOP and leaners) are pro-American. Are there really that many Confederate flag wavers still around? Surprising.

I guess they are hiding out inside all those Cracker Barrels.

[DocBarrister]

Per a new Monmouth poll, Biden is up 13% in Pennsylvania.

A question, are people telling the truth? I think that just like in 2016, people don't want anyone to know that they are voting for o d. Yet, when the the voting booth the cast their vote for the racist bigot.

Polls may be directionaly correct, but like last time - I suspect there are a lot of pending Trump voters who will either not admit it, or just plain not participate in the polling processes.

Perhaps even more so this time around.

n 2016, we had a good guide in the Brexit polls. Less to base gut feelings on this time around, but my gut is telling me that a 7-8 point lead in the polls for Biden will equate to a dead heat in actual voting (versus my view of a 4 point polling lead for HRC equating to "even" in 2016.

We will see in November....

The last polls in 2016 showed Hillary ahead by anywhere from 1% to 5%. Most had the margin around 3%. She won by 2%. This was within the margin of error for the large majority of polls.

It was the polling in the key states that was off. Obviously this is critical. Will Biden’s lead in these states evaporate as Hillary’s did? Stay tuned.

Hillary’s campaign manager, Robbie Mook, was more focused on demonstrating his proprietary data analytics program than running a proper campaign. Mook should be banned for life from any campaign work, but the idiot still gets gigs. If these were medieval times, he would have had his head placed on a spike.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/ ... ump-232547

At least Biden’s campaign is taking state polls. For a long time, Mook refused to do even that.

Mook is the classic idiot who didn’t understand the strengths and vulnerabilities of the mathematical models he was using (derivatives traders are a similar breed). Data analytics works in baseball because: (1) you get lots of data (every plate appearance by a player); (2) the data is very recent (a game every day); and (3) the data is very reliable and valid (often computerized image analysis of where the ball is hit). None of those factors are present in political polls. Mook’s data analytics program was reliant on relatively few, old polls of varying reliability.

Mook’s greed and myopia still raise my blood pressure today.

DocBarrister

[CU77]

Doc, don't blame Mook, blame the person who hired him and then kept him on: HRC.

HRC simply had no idea how to run a campaign, both in 2008 and 2016. Mark Penn, her 2008 manager, was a far bigger idiot than Mook: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/peop ... 55699.html

Read Shattered by the two reporters embedded with the 2016 HRC campaign, if you want the gory details. They're not pretty.

Remarkable that HRC was so bad at running a campaign, given her close-up view of her husband's two successful campaigns.

[CU88]

Trump: So shower heads, you take a shower, the water doesn’t come out. You wanna wash your hands, the water doesn’t come out... Dishwashers you didn’t have any water... In most places of the country, water is not a problem. They don’t know what do with it. It’s called rain

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1283863149955842048

goodness, IMPOTUS is an idiot.

[MDlaxfan76]

Latest from Gallup:
U.S. Party Preferences Have Swung Sharply Toward Democrats

it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

Interesting that Petey thinks 51% of the country is anti-American...

Only 39% (GOP and leaners) are pro-American. Are there really that many Confederate flag wavers still around? Surprising.

I guess they are hiding out inside all those Cracker Barrels.

pro-'Murica
Jim Crow and The South Shall Rise Again
Joe McCarthy
'Murica... Love it or Leave it
"real 'Muricans", "proud to be a Redneck"

[6ftstick]

Latest from Gallup:
U.S. Party Preferences Have Swung Sharply Toward Democrats

it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

Interesting that Petey thinks 51% of the country is anti-American...

Only 39% (GOP and leaners) are pro-American. Are there really that many Confederate flag wavers still around? Surprising.

I guess they are hiding out inside all those Cracker Barrels.

pro-'Murica
Jim Crow and The South Shall Rise Again
Joe McCarthy
'Murica... Love it or Leave it
"real 'Muricans", "proud to be a Redneck"

Defund the police

Open Borders and free healthcare for all

infanticide

Higher taxes

Riots are good and protected by the first amendment but going to church is bad and your first amendment religious rights are suspended

[MDlaxfan76]

Latest from Gallup:
U.S. Party Preferences Have Swung Sharply Toward Democrats

it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

Interesting that Petey thinks 51% of the country is anti-American...

Only 39% (GOP and leaners) are pro-American. Are there really that many Confederate flag wavers still around? Surprising.

I guess they are hiding out inside all those Cracker Barrels.

pro-'Murica
Jim Crow and The South Shall Rise Again
Joe McCarthy
'Murica... Love it or Leave it
"real 'Muricans", "proud to be a Redneck"

Defund the police

Open Borders and free healthcare for all

infanticide

Higher taxes

Riots are good and protected by the first amendment but going to church is bad and your first amendment religious rights are suspended

"infanticide"...nah words aren't loaded on the right...

I'm not on the hard right nor the hard left, so the extreme word choices on either side put me off...

I don't know any moderate Dems, nor 95% of their elected officials, who want "Open Borders", so to me that's a right wing boogeyman.

Free healthcare for all, yes.
And I'm coming around to it as well, though there's a lot I'd like to have thought through in the process.

Higher taxes, sure, we've had far higher taxes in prior eras and thrived, so I'm ok with that conceptually...but I'd sure prefer way less complication, ridiculous amount of paperwork necessary, way too many calculations and machinations and way too many loopholes.

Defund the Police...I don't like the phrase, but that's actually the point, the shock of dealing with what the heck that even means...I'm definitely in favor of dramatically increasing social service funding so as to reduce load on the police for work better done by social services and various ways to disaggregate and reduce poverty and related costs. I'm also in favor in decriminalization of drugs, treating as a public health rather than criminal issue, dramatically changing the load on policing and the devastation of drug related violence, defending street corners, children as runners etc.

No moderate Dem or 95% of the elected Dem officials ever said "riots are good"...yes, "protests", but not "riots". And no one, at least not that I've heard, has said that going to church is bad, but yes, for now go to church online or in a parking lot, maintain social distancing, masks, etc. Care about your neighbor.

It's the the extreme baloney from you right wingers, led by the Troll-in-Chief, that's stupid on all this. And that's why the country is swinging so hard to the Dems right now.

I'm an R, but will be voting with the Dems in 2020 because of the Troll-in-Chief.

[Peter Brown]

Latest from Gallup:
U.S. Party Preferences Have Swung Sharply Toward Democrats

it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

Interesting that Petey thinks 51% of the country is anti-American...

Only 39% (GOP and leaners) are pro-American. Are there really that many Confederate flag wavers still around? Surprising.

I guess they are hiding out inside all those Cracker Barrels.

pro-'Murica
Jim Crow and The South Shall Rise Again
Joe McCarthy
'Murica... Love it or Leave it
"real 'Muricans", "proud to be a Redneck"

Defund the police

Open Borders and free healthcare for all

infanticide

Higher taxes

Riots are good and protected by the first amendment but going to church is bad and your first amendment religious rights are suspended

Speaking of church, I gather some Democratic activists have been setting churches on fire across America with nary a peep from the mainstream media. Can you imagine the howling outrage if this was a mosque or any other kind of religion?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/church-fire- ... estigation

Something tells me the Fanlax Dems will not see anything wrong with this...

[6ftstick]

Latest from Gallup:
U.S. Party Preferences Have Swung Sharply Toward Democrats

it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

Interesting that Petey thinks 51% of the country is anti-American...

Only 39% (GOP and leaners) are pro-American. Are there really that many Confederate flag wavers still around? Surprising.

I guess they are hiding out inside all those Cracker Barrels.

pro-'Murica
Jim Crow and The South Shall Rise Again
Joe McCarthy
'Murica... Love it or Leave it
"real 'Muricans", "proud to be a Redneck"

Defund the police

Open Borders and free healthcare for all

infanticide

Higher taxes

Riots are good and protected by the first amendment but going to church is bad and your first amendment religious rights are suspended

"infanticide"...nah words aren't loaded on the right...

I'm not on the hard right nor the hard left, so the extreme word choices on either side put me off...

I don't know any moderate Dems, nor 95% of their elected officials, who want "Open Borders", so to me that's a right wing boogeyman.

Free healthcare for all, yes.
And I'm coming around to it as well, though there's a lot I'd like to have thought through in the process.

Higher taxes, sure, we've had far higher taxes in prior eras and thrived, so I'm ok with that conceptually...but I'd sure prefer way less complication, ridiculous amount of paperwork necessary, way too many calculations and machinations and way too many loopholes.

Defund the Police...I don't like the phrase, but that's actually the point, the shock of dealing with what the heck that even means...I'm definitely in favor of dramatically increasing social service funding so as to reduce load on the police for work better done by social services and various ways to disaggregate and reduce poverty and related costs. I'm also in favor in decriminalization of drugs, treating as a public health rather than criminal issue, dramatically changing the load on policing and the devastation of drug related violence, defending street corners, children as runners etc.

No moderate Dem or 95% of the elected Dem officials ever said "riots are good"...yes, "protests", but not "riots". And no one, at least not that I've heard, has said that going to church is bad, but yes, for now go to church online or in a parking lot, maintain social distancing, masks, etc. Care about your neighbor. Get out of your bubble.

It's the the extreme baloney from you right wingers, led by the Troll-in-Chief, that's stupid on all this. And that's why the country is swinging so hard to the Dems right now.

Your CANDIDATE is

[MDlaxfan76]

Latest from Gallup:
U.S. Party Preferences Have Swung Sharply Toward Democrats

it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

Interesting that Petey thinks 51% of the country is anti-American...

Only 39% (GOP and leaners) are pro-American. Are there really that many Confederate flag wavers still around? Surprising.

I guess they are hiding out inside all those Cracker Barrels.

pro-'Murica
Jim Crow and The South Shall Rise Again
Joe McCarthy
'Murica... Love it or Leave it
"real 'Muricans", "proud to be a Redneck"

Defund the police

Open Borders and free healthcare for all

infanticide

Higher taxes

Riots are good and protected by the first amendment but going to church is bad and your first amendment religious rights are suspended

Speaking of church, I gather some Democratic activists have been setting churches on fire across America with nary a peep from the mainstream media. Can you imagine the howling outrage if this was a mosque or any other kind of religion?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/church-fire- ... estigation

Something tells me the Fanlax Dems will not see anything wrong with this...

whoa, what makes any of these incidents connected to a political party?
should we assume the black churches burning is something you right wing Trump GOP supporters are connected to: https://www.theatlantic.com/national/ar ... ia/396881/

And is Fox not mainstream? After all Trump thinks they don't like him, prefers OAN.

The first example is a schizophrenic nutcase?

I didn't see any of these incidents actually identified as definitely an act of 'hate', though it certainly is possible, and at least IMO to be condemned if so.

Let's assume for the moment that one or many of these incidents are associated with the protests over white supremacy...I doubt you'd find any posters on here, including our furthest left posters, defending such vandalism in places of worship.

[MDlaxfan76]

Latest from Gallup:
U.S. Party Preferences Have Swung Sharply Toward Democrats

it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

Interesting that Petey thinks 51% of the country is anti-American...

Only 39% (GOP and leaners) are pro-American. Are there really that many Confederate flag wavers still around? Surprising.

I guess they are hiding out inside all those Cracker Barrels.

pro-'Murica
Jim Crow and The South Shall Rise Again
Joe McCarthy
'Murica... Love it or Leave it
"real 'Muricans", "proud to be a Redneck"

Defund the police

Open Borders and free healthcare for all

infanticide

Higher taxes

Riots are good and protected by the first amendment but going to church is bad and your first amendment religious rights are suspended

"infanticide"...nah words aren't loaded on the right...

I'm not on the hard right nor the hard left, so the extreme word choices on either side put me off...

I don't know any moderate Dems, nor 95% of their elected officials, who want "Open Borders", so to me that's a right wing boogeyman.

Free healthcare for all, yes.
And I'm coming around to it as well, though there's a lot I'd like to have thought through in the process.

Higher taxes, sure, we've had far higher taxes in prior eras and thrived, so I'm ok with that conceptually...but I'd sure prefer way less complication, ridiculous amount of paperwork necessary, way too many calculations and machinations and way too many loopholes.

Defund the Police...I don't like the phrase, but that's actually the point, the shock of dealing with what the heck that even means...I'm definitely in favor of dramatically increasing social service funding so as to reduce load on the police for work better done by social services and various ways to disaggregate and reduce poverty and related costs. I'm also in favor in decriminalization of drugs, treating as a public health rather than criminal issue, dramatically changing the load on policing and the devastation of drug related violence, defending street corners, children as runners etc.

No moderate Dem or 95% of the elected Dem officials ever said "riots are good"...yes, "protests", but not "riots". And no one, at least not that I've heard, has said that going to church is bad, but yes, for now go to church online or in a parking lot, maintain social distancing, masks, etc. Care about your neighbor. Get out of your bubble.

It's the the extreme baloney from you right wingers, led by the Troll-in-Chief, that's stupid on all this. And that's why the country is swinging so hard to the Dems right now.

Your CANDIDATE is

nonsense. Show me.
His words, not Hannity's or Carlson's or Ingraham's, etc...

[jhu72]

Latest from Gallup:
U.S. Party Preferences Have Swung Sharply Toward Democrats

it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

Interesting that Petey thinks 51% of the country is anti-American...

Only 39% (GOP and leaners) are pro-American. Are there really that many Confederate flag wavers still around? Surprising.

I guess they are hiding out inside all those Cracker Barrels.

pro-'Murica
Jim Crow and The South Shall Rise Again
Joe McCarthy
'Murica... Love it or Leave it
"real 'Muricans", "proud to be a Redneck"

Defund the police

Open Borders and free healthcare for all

infanticide

Higher taxes

Riots are good and protected by the first amendment but going to church is bad and your first amendment religious rights are suspended

Speaking of church, I gather some Democratic activists have been setting churches on fire across America with nary a peep from the mainstream media. Can you imagine the howling outrage if this was a mosque or any other kind of religion?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/church-fire- ... estigation

Something tells me the Fanlax Dems will not see anything wrong with this...

-- JUST ANOTHER BS RIGHT WING RAG STORY. A couple catholic churches a thousand miles apart have statues defaced and you bozos turn this into some massive movement to burn churches. There is a reason the reliable media ignores this nonsense -- because it is nonsense!

Interesting how the right wing propaganda machine births this story days after Orange Duce vows to defend the Christ the Redeemer statue. Not even Faux News is giving this wide play. Townhall, Brietbart and a handful of right wing Christian fascist blogs are selling this story.

… just one more right wing dog that won't hunt

[MDlaxfan76]

Latest from Gallup:
U.S. Party Preferences Have Swung Sharply Toward Democrats

it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

Interesting that Petey thinks 51% of the country is anti-American...

Only 39% (GOP and leaners) are pro-American. Are there really that many Confederate flag wavers still around? Surprising.

I guess they are hiding out inside all those Cracker Barrels.

pro-'Murica
Jim Crow and The South Shall Rise Again
Joe McCarthy
'Murica... Love it or Leave it
"real 'Muricans", "proud to be a Redneck"

Defund the police

Open Borders and free healthcare for all

infanticide

Higher taxes

Riots are good and protected by the first amendment but going to church is bad and your first amendment religious rights are suspended

Speaking of church, I gather some Democratic activists have been setting churches on fire across America with nary a peep from the mainstream media. Can you imagine the howling outrage if this was a mosque or any other kind of religion?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/church-fire- ... estigation

Something tells me the Fanlax Dems will not see anything wrong with this...

-- JUST ANOTHER BS RIGHT WING RAG STORY. A couple catholic churches a thousand miles apart have statues defaced and you bozos turn this into some massive movement to burn churches. There is a reason the reliable media ignores this nonsense -- because it is nonsense!

Interesting how the right wing propaganda machine births this story days after Orange Duce vows to defend the Christ the Redeemer statue. Not even Faux News is giving this wide play. Townhall, Brietbart and a handful of right wing Christian fascist blogs are selling this story.

… just one more right wing dog that won't hunt

Just to be clear, '72, you'd agree with me that defacing a statue of Jesus in a church or burning a church is to be condemned, right?

I'm sure you'd agree.

On the other hand, it sure does appear to be a right wing spin-up to provide cover for Trump, though he lives in that same echo chamber, so it's hard to know who was vibe-ing off of whom.

No surprise they're not complaining about black churches being torched...https://www.theatlantic.com/national/ar ... ia/396881/

Let's also agree that there are lots of nut jobs out there...https://www.wsbtv.com/news/trending/son ... ZQQRVRK7Y/

[jhu72]

Latest from Gallup:
U.S. Party Preferences Have Swung Sharply Toward Democrats

it's getting next to impossible to think of the Democratic Party as being pro-America.

Interesting that Petey thinks 51% of the country is anti-American...

Only 39% (GOP and leaners) are pro-American. Are there really that many Confederate flag wavers still around? Surprising.

I guess they are hiding out inside all those Cracker Barrels.

pro-'Murica
Jim Crow and The South Shall Rise Again
Joe McCarthy
'Murica... Love it or Leave it
"real 'Muricans", "proud to be a Redneck"

Defund the police

Open Borders and free healthcare for all

infanticide

Higher taxes

Riots are good and protected by the first amendment but going to church is bad and your first amendment religious rights are suspended

Speaking of church, I gather some Democratic activists have been setting churches on fire across America with nary a peep from the mainstream media. Can you imagine the howling outrage if this was a mosque or any other kind of religion?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/church-fire- ... estigation

Something tells me the Fanlax Dems will not see anything wrong with this...

-- JUST ANOTHER BS RIGHT WING RAG STORY. A couple catholic churches a thousand miles apart have statues defaced and you bozos turn this into some massive movement to burn churches. There is a reason the reliable media ignores this nonsense -- because it is nonsense!

Interesting how the right wing propaganda machine births this story days after Orange Duce vows to defend the Christ the Redeemer statue. Not even Faux News is giving this wide play. Townhall, Brietbart and a handful of right wing Christian fascist blogs are selling this story.

… just one more right wing dog that won't hunt

Just to be clear, '72, you'd agree with me that defacing a statue of Jesus in a church or burning a church is to be condemned, right?

I'm sure you'd agree. Absolutely. The interesting thing about all this is that the one individual they caught claims he has a problem with the Catholic Church. To me this does not look like a left / right political act. The other interesting thing is the mainstream media has given this exactly the right level of coverage. The major news papers in the local communities covered it as a local event, presumably the TV stations as well. The Miami Herald from the left and the Boston Herald from the right.

On the other hand, it sure does appear to be a right wing spin-up to provide cover for Trump, though he lives in that same echo chamber, so it's hard to know who was vibe-ing off of whom.

No surprise they're not complaining about black churches being torched...https://www.theatlantic.com/national/ar ... ia/396881/

[tech37]

if 2020 keeps it up, i might be interested in looking into wakanda. is that coming to america or something else?

there was a squirrel that was tested and had bubonic plague in colorado in the last several days. what made them want to test a dead squirrel? is this all over the place? my dog had 4 dead squirrels in his mouth in the last 2 weeks, and almost a skunk.

is bubonic plague next?!?!?

No fool'n wgdsr. In April, on top of all the Covid anxiety, we had an add'l scare. 4am, Sunday morning, I'm practically asleep but notice one of my cats in the room and up on the bed. I doze back off but feel something on my head and brush it off. Dose back off but hear a clicking sound next to pillow. I sit up to find a bat with a torn wing sitting there! I got some gloves, picked it up and put outside. When I got up a couple hours later, checked on bat and it was dead. Bagged it and into the freezer since my first thought was Rabies?! I warily contacted the Dept of Health thinking they would be a draconian version of DMV. They were actually great though (very nice to deal with) and sent the bat off for testing, free of charge. My cat went to vet to be checked out and updated on Rabies shot, then I had to quarantine her. Test came back negative (thank god) within 2 days and the kitty lock down ended. Normally it wouldn't have been so bad but with everything else and with bat viruses and bat eating people so much in news, it was an ordeal.