tech37 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:28 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:20 am
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:06 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:50 am
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:45 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:33 am
cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:11 am
https://www.democratandchronicle.com/st ... 380067002/
Interesting story in my morning FLP fishwrapper formerly know as a newspaper. This is how mole hills are turned into mountains. These 2 young black kids were waiting outside of the school for the teacher to let them into the gym for practice. Somebody at the school thinks with all their gear and gym bags looks suspicious. They called the cops. The cops show up and in about 15 seconds determine these kids are not suspicious and then they leave. Where the hell is the controversy here? What ever happened to if you see something, say something. You FLP folks have created an environment of paranoia around any and all schools. Should a couple of black yutes waiting out front with their gym bags be considered a threat? The answer is, of course not. The facts here tell the whole story. Somebody outside of the school looked suspicious to someone that works at the school. Someone calls the police to report it. The police show up and determine there is nothing going on and they leave. The cops did not shoot anybody, the cops did not beat anybody up. The truth is this entire issue was a huge nothingburger. That is until someone complains about it to the media. Now it rates as a expansive article in a pathetic FLP fishwrapper trying desperately to make it appear to be a racist incident. GMAFB...
The school employee was surprised to see young men at an elementary school that has been closed during the pandemic, Putnam said. Also, he said, school employees have been trained to be acutely alert to intruders, given the rash of school shootings across the country in recent years.
"It is important to point out that at that time our elementary school buildings and campuses were still closed to the community," Putnam said. "I know that the young men were not privy to that information."
So "somebody" thought the boys waiting for practice with their gym bags looked "suspicious" and called the police.
Do I have that correct?
Ok, would that "somebody" have called the police if they were white?
or would that not have been as "suspicious" to that "Nancy"??
Like, maybe just approach the white boys and say hello?
We have all sorts of evidence now (given cell phone cameras) that even those who think of themselves as 'liberal' will weaponize a call to 11 when they are in a situation with a young black man and far less so with a white man.
Now, what was the experience for those two young athletes? As the police rolled up, were the boys concerned about their lives? (yes, they're not stupid). Had they been white, would they have been worried about their lives? (nope, they knew they belonged there).
Now, white boys don't ask for this "privilege" of not having someone call the police on them as they wait to get into a gym with their gym bags, nor the "privilege" of not being scared as the police roll up because they know they belong, have every right to be there...
But they do have this privilege.
Get it?
btw, in your description of the story, the police themselves did nothing wrong, but they were the tools of the person who found black kids with gym bags outside a gym to be suspicious...
"btw, in your description of the story, the police themselves did nothing wrong, but they were the tools of the person who found black kids with gym bags outside a gym to be suspicious..."
Winner, winner chicken dinner. You waded through all the BS and got the point of my message. The cops did what they were suppose to do. They responded to the call and took all of 2 minutes to be on their way. You respond in typical fashion... would they have called the cops if they were white? I sure hope so. If not what is the point of indoctrinating the entire nation that if you see something say something?
In my world someone from the school could have simply walked out to the car and said "can I help you folks with something"
right, (in YOUR world) you'd say hello to the kids, after all you're supposedly someone in a position of authority at the school. Why would you be afraid of kids with gym bags outside a gym?
And that's what happens when the kids are white, most of the time.
But not if they're black.
Black boys don't live in Your world...
Get it?
In my world I am not afraid of black kids or white kids carrying gym bags. In my world I would have no problem asking them if they needed help. In this situation the school was closed and the person at the school had no idea what these two yutes were waiting outside the school for. I am not the person who came up with the logic of "if you see something, say something" that FLP claptrap my friend. Somebody at the school saw something and they said something. Ain't that what they have been trained to do?
terrorists, cradle, terrorists. And that was the Bush Admin who came up with that slogan.
These "yutes", because they are black, had a far greater risk of being considered 'suspicious' though entirely innocent and rightfully there and far greater at risk as being seen as 'dangerous' when the police rolled up...fortunately, at least as you relay it, the police handled it just fine...but how do they undo the damage to these 'yutes' who had the police roll up on them, recognizing that had they been white, they'd very likely just have had a conversation with whoever first saw them standing there...
I doubt it but I suppose if I grew up in your Gilman/Dartmouth world MD, I might feel guilty about my so-called "white privilege" too. That doesn't mean you didn't work hard for what you have or who you are, I wouldn't know that.
And MD, your idea of what a terrorist is has certainly changed since the Bush Admin with all of the anarchy (both left and right) that Dem mayor's in sanctuary cities have abetted. Today "see something, say something" is more relevant than ever. Although you sheepishly would consider it's usage "racist," in step with progressive group think of today. Too bad...
As for C&S's anecdote, using simple logic here... I wonder what the percentage of the student population is minority? If it's very small, then the chances of police being called on 2 black kids hanging around is greater. As far as what those black kids felt when police arrived, who's to say 2 white kids hanging around wouldn't feel the same sense of indignation. What if the person who called the police was black? That certainly blows your hypothesis out the window.
Don't feel guilty at all.
"white privilege" does not make someone racist, it doesn't mean they asked for any special advantage, nor does it mean they even know it's there most of the time, indeed they have the luxury of not knowing. That's a form a 'privilege', not even being aware.
I was fortunate to go to Gilman at a time when Gilman was pressing forward on diversity issues of all sorts, very lucky. I don't feel guilty about it. I also am quite aware of all the various advantages my family situation gave me, two parents, economically successful, living in America, etc, etc. Darn fortunate. Do I feel guilty? No. Do I feel I owe something in return, do I feel a duty to others who are less fortunate? you betcha...but I get that from my religious and moral upbringing, not some faux guilt that right wingers imagine.
On terrorist, you lost me there. Why would I think that someone seeing a bag left at an airport or in a crowd and reporting it would be "racist"?
Now, if I reported somebody wearing a head covering as suspicious but would not have done so if they weren't, maybe you could explore some Islamaphobia, but terrorists come in all stripes, indeed we've been down that hole a number of times with the large #'s of white nationalist terrorist events in the last decade, much less the experience of Jim Crow terrorism. So, report the stray bag...
On a black person calling the police, you are again misunderstanding the challenge for black men and boys. It's not that the caller is racist, it's that they are more likely to perceive danger when the man or boy is black. This is true throughout the society, in all our messaging, and we see black police at times with these same reactions. And it doesn't matter whether the black boy or man is where they should be, dressed appropriate to their environment, driving a nice car...etc. A black person is less likely to have these perceptions of danger, but it's not a guarantee.
Yes, the white kids would have a 'sense of indignation' if they were handled poorly. But would not as likely have the same fear, nor concern that they better keep their hands where they could be seen, speak softly, etc and they would again have the 'privilege' of not having to ask themselves with whether the police rolling up on them was because of their skin color.