All things Chinese CoronaVirus

[a fan]

Some nice news.



https://apnews.com/e4d5259bfc6c74fcb090 ... FRdcEN2hjo

[Typical Lax Dad]

More great news......zero death day in NY

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/health/n ... index.html

Zero deaths and soon to be zero jobs left. The price of victory often comes with massive casualties. If yer looking for work in NYS, just be glad yer still alive. How you pay your bills with no job... that is the price of victory.

+1

And de Blasio will chase the last jobs out of NYC.

https://auburnpub.com/news/local/govt-a ... 070cd.html

Del Lago has worked tirelessly to come up with a plan to open up and bring these people back to work. King Andy's response... FU you Upstate lowlifes, you don't vote for me. There is a fine line when it comes to Covid in regards to doing the right thing and just being a jerk. King Andy is driving this casino OOB. Why?? because King Andy is NYS benevolent dictator in all that he deems right and just. Kiss the Kings ass or else...

shame about your local casino. Now, there's an essential business...
Are you telling us people won't want to gamble post COVID?

A casino would be at the very end of the line for reopening. Americans have lost their minds. Bars, Restaurants and casinos will end up taking down the whole economy and killing a bunch of people. Absolute luxuries. Going out to eat is an incredible luxury.

[youthathletics]

Florida Sets Coronavirus Death Record, Hours After Gov. DeSantis Said State Had ‘Stabilized’

Florida set a new record for coronavirus deaths Tuesday, one of several metrics that show the state’s coronavirus crisis is still getting worse, even as Gov. Ron DeSantis claimed at a news conference Monday afternoon that the state’s situation had “stabilized.”

Florida reported 132 deaths Tuesday, a massive increase from the 35 new deaths the state added on Monday and breaking the old daily record of 120, set on July 9.

The key metric DeSantis said showed the state had “stabilized,” which is the rate of tests coming back positive, also took a big jump in the wrong direction.

On Tuesday, the positivity rate rose back above 15%, reversing what had been a trend of decline, and far above Monday’s rate, which was below 11.5%.

The median age of infection is another statistic DeSantis has continually cited to support his argument that the public health crisis in the state is overblown, but that, too, is headed in the wrong direction.

That age has now risen to 41—the highest number the state has reported since it started publicly releasing the statistic on a daily basis, beginning in mid-June, and hospitalizations are on the rise.

Freaking failed Democrat narrative!

Why do all those gay men and ugly women hate Murica so much?

FYI, the above article is from FORBES. Since when is Forbes a liturd BLM pinko fascist TLD fake news outlet?

Orlando has math errors:

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-3 ... 19-results

The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://apple.news/AAB4qCf2ATJKoKTVM_rMKVg

[DocBarrister]

When I posted this got no response.

I started elementary school with Small pox, chicken pox, measles, mumps and POLIO.

Parents were on record that only Nuclear war worried them more than polio.

All i carried to protect me was a Davy Crockett lunch box and a Howdy Doody pencil holder.

Never a discussion of closing schools. No discussion at all really.

believe a lot of you grew up at the same time

You missed the biggest, most obvious, most comparable, data point. Lots and lots of schools were closed for lots and lots of weeks during the 1918 pandemic. You know that one time when everyone had to wear a mask by law?

It would probably be worth a look to see what the impact of that was. Did the schools open/close too late, too early? Did closing schools work or not?

Went to school in the 50's not 1918. We also had influenza to deal with a long with the others I mentioned

Wow ... did not realize you were so old and expendable.

By all means ... if a bar is open, go ahead and have a few drinks ... send the tab to me.

DocBarrister

[RedFromMI]

If you aren’t filled with rage at Trump, you aren’t paying attention

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... attention/

Opinion by
Paul Waldman
Columnist

Let me take you for a moment to a fantasy land. In this place, the coronavirus pandemic was bad for a couple of months but now it is largely under control. If you lived there you’d still be a little uncertain about going to a concert or a movie, but your life would have largely returned to normal.

You wouldn’t have lost your job; the government would have had a comprehensive support program that kept unemployment low. You’d be able to see your family and friends without fear. Your children would be returning to school in September. There would be some precautions to take for a while longer, but there would be no doubt that the pandemic was on its way to being defeated.

To us here in the United States, this picture seems magical, like a dispatch from the far future. But it isn’t. It’s the situation that exists right now in many of our peer countries around the world. And the fact that our situation is so different? That shouldn’t just make you feel disappointed, or anxious, or upset.

It should make you enraged. That is the proper response to where we find ourselves today.

Let’s begin with the situation in other countries. Here are new case totals from Monday for a few of our peer countries:

France: 580
UK: 564
Spain: 546
Germany: 365
Canada: 299
Japan: 259
Italy: 200
Australia: 158
South Korea: 52

And the United States? 55,300.

Some of these countries were in extremely bad shape for a time, but with sane leadership and a population willing to work together, they’re in the process of defeating the pandemic. But not us.

There are many reasons we have experienced this catastrophe (and it quickly became two catastrophes, an economic crisis added to the public health crisis), but one stands above all others: President Trump.

Is there a single aspect of his response to this pandemic that has not been a miserable failure? For weeks he ignored warnings and denied that the pandemic would be a problem. He didn’t prepare the equipment and systems we’d need to respond.

We have no national testing strategy — still! There is no national contact tracing program. Trump turned over the effort to coordinate the distribution of supplies to his incompetent dolt of a son-in-law. He responded to efforts by governors to impose strong lockdowns by berating them and calling for their states to be “liberated.” For months he not only refused to wear a mask but also belittled those who did, successfully turning a vital public health tool into a polarized political issue.

And he demanded that everyone around him echo his insane claims that everything is under control and the pandemic is being vanquished. It was a month ago that Vice President Pence pathetically proclaimed that “we are winning the fight against the invisible enemy,” and the administration’s great success was “cause for celebration.”

And now, rather than working harder to contain the pandemic, the White House has begun a furious campaign to discredit the federal government’s chief infectious-disease specialist, Anthony S. Fauci, who has had the temerity to admit that things aren’t going well. Trump himself has clearly decided that he’s bored of worrying about the pandemic, so he’ll stop trying to do anything about it. With over 135,000 Americans dead and counting.

How can you look at what has happened to us and not be enraged?

Just consider the economy: the tens of millions of people unemployed, the millions who have lost health coverage, the tens of thousands of businesses going under, the tens of millions of people who could soon be evicted. None of it had to happen. In other countries it hasn’t. But it happened to us.

Or think of the millions of children who will wind up losing a year or maybe more of their lives, without the opportunity to be educated, to build and sustain friendships, to just be kids.

Even if you’re lucky enough not to have gotten sick or lost a loved one, you’re the victim of a robbery. Trump stole so much from all of us — our time with friends and family, our mental health, even our faith that our country could meet a challenge.

Don’t let him get away with saying that it would have been worse were it not for him, or that we only have so many cases only because we’re doing more testing. Those are lies.

We are interested in hearing about how the struggle to reopen amid the pandemic is affecting people's lives. Please tell us yours.

Anger is often toxic in our political lives. But there are times when our leaders — or in this case, one leader in particular — ought to be the target of every bit of anger we can muster. To give him anything less is an affront to the truth. To let our anger dissipate into a miserable resignation is to give him a kind of forgiveness he doesn’t deserve.

Before the pandemic, Trump was one of the worst presidents in our history. But now he has laid waste to our country, with his unique combination of incompetence and malevolence — and he’s not done yet. Once we finally rid ourselves of him, it will take years to recover. But as we do, we should never for a moment forget what he was and what he did to us. And we should never stop being angry about it.

[CU88]

"Chernobyl” came out just over a year ago, and a popular center-right talking point was that it showed how communist misgovernance inevitably leads to preventable mass casualties (up to 16,000 deaths across Europe have been traced to that disaster).

[CU88]

More great news......zero death day in NY

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/health/n ... index.html

Zero deaths and soon to be zero jobs left. The price of victory often comes with massive casualties. If yer looking for work in NYS, just be glad yer still alive. How you pay your bills with no job... that is the price of victory.

+1

And de Blasio will chase the last jobs out of NYC.

https://auburnpub.com/news/local/govt-a ... 070cd.html

Del Lago has worked tirelessly to come up with a plan to open up and bring these people back to work. King Andy's response... FU you Upstate lowlifes, you don't vote for me. There is a fine line when it comes to Covid in regards to doing the right thing and just being a jerk. King Andy is driving this casino OOB. Why?? because King Andy is NYS benevolent dictator in all that he deems right and just. Kiss the Kings ass or else...

shame about your local casino. Now, there's an essential business...
Are you telling us people won't want to gamble post COVID?

A casino would be at the very end of the line for reopening. Americans have lost their minds. Bars, Restaurants and casinos will end up taking down the whole economy and killing a bunch of people. Absolute luxuries. Going out to eat is an incredible luxury.

Casinos love people who make poor decisions and have limited understanding of math...

[DocBarrister]

"Chernobyl” came out just over a year ago, and a popular center-right talking point was that it showed how communist misgovernance inevitably leads to preventable mass casualties (up to 16,000 deaths across Europe have been traced to that disaster).

So the Chernobyl disaster killed only about one tenth of the people that Trump’s recklessness and incompetence have killed?

DocBarrister

[MDlaxfan76]

Florida Sets Coronavirus Death Record, Hours After Gov. DeSantis Said State Had ‘Stabilized’

Florida set a new record for coronavirus deaths Tuesday, one of several metrics that show the state’s coronavirus crisis is still getting worse, even as Gov. Ron DeSantis claimed at a news conference Monday afternoon that the state’s situation had “stabilized.”

Florida reported 132 deaths Tuesday, a massive increase from the 35 new deaths the state added on Monday and breaking the old daily record of 120, set on July 9.

The key metric DeSantis said showed the state had “stabilized,” which is the rate of tests coming back positive, also took a big jump in the wrong direction.

On Tuesday, the positivity rate rose back above 15%, reversing what had been a trend of decline, and far above Monday’s rate, which was below 11.5%.

The median age of infection is another statistic DeSantis has continually cited to support his argument that the public health crisis in the state is overblown, but that, too, is headed in the wrong direction.

That age has now risen to 41—the highest number the state has reported since it started publicly releasing the statistic on a daily basis, beginning in mid-June, and hospitalizations are on the rise.

Freaking failed Democrat narrative!

Why do all those gay men and ugly women hate Murica so much?

FYI, the above article is from FORBES. Since when is Forbes a liturd BLM pinko fascist TLD fake news outlet?

Orlando has math errors:

https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/fox-3 ... 19-results

The report showed that Orlando Health had a 98 percent positivity rate. However, when FOX 35 News contacted the hospital, they confirmed errors in the report. Orlando Health's positivity rate is only 9.4 percent, not 98 percent as in the report.

Yup, Florida is a well oiled machine...

Those deaths are tougher to obfuscate...

[6ftstick]

When I posted this got no response.

I started elementary school with Small pox, chicken pox, measles, mumps and POLIO.

Parents were on record that only Nuclear war worried them more than polio.

All i carried to protect me was a Davy Crockett lunch box and a Howdy Doody pencil holder.

Never a discussion of closing schools. No discussion at all really.

believe a lot of you grew up at the same time

You missed the biggest, most obvious, most comparable, data point. Lots and lots of schools were closed for lots and lots of weeks during the 1918 pandemic. You know that one time when everyone had to wear a mask by law?

It would probably be worth a look to see what the impact of that was. Did the schools open/close too late, too early? Did closing schools work or not?

Went to school in the 50's not 1918. We also had influenza to deal with a long with the others I mentioned

Wow ... did not realize you were so old and expendable.

By all means ... if a bar is open, go ahead and have a few drinks ... send the tab to me.

DocBarrister

Been there done that. Wishing me to get sick. That makes you one of the ones who inherit the earth eh

[Peter Brown]

Prepare to be immunized!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-co ... 21758.html

Hope you boys own some Moderna.

Back to work!!

[a fan]

Prepare to be immunized!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-co ... 21758.html

Hope you boys own some Moderna.

We, the taxpayers, own the National Institute of Health.

Moderna, which has foreign owners, is about to charge Americans twice of this vaccine if it works. Once in R&D, and then again if we buy the vaccine.

How did we get to be this stupid?

[youthathletics]

Prepare to be immunized!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-co ... 21758.html

Hope you boys own some Moderna.

We, the taxpayers, own the National Institute of Health.

Moderna, which has foreign owners, is about to charge Americans twice of this vaccine if it works. Once in R&D, and then again if we buy the vaccine.

How did we get to be this stupid?

Let's hope we hold the intellectual property and China can negotiate with us on the purchase of the product.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Prepare to be immunized!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-co ... 21758.html

Hope you boys own some Moderna.

We, the taxpayers, own the National Institute of Health.

Moderna, which has foreign owners, is about to charge Americans twice of this vaccine if it works. Once in R&D, and then again if we buy the vaccine.

How did we get to be this stupid?

Isn’t that old dumb Fauci and his NIH team? He’s the clown that didn’t understand wearing a mask may help? The Fauci that’s not as smart as Navarro and Trump....that NIH Fauci? That’s crazy.

I would love to know how many people on this board are as good at anything as Fauci is in his profession.....anything in their lifetime.

[njbill]

https://dianerehm.org/shows/2020-07-14/ ... can-do-now

Thanks for posting. A very interesting listen.

One of my key takeaways is how important it is that we have someone who is both very knowledgeable in the subject matter and also very good at communicating to be able to talk to the American people on a regular basis.

The combination of the fact that this virus is new, the studies are at times contradictory, what science is learning about the virus is evolving all the time, and recommended treatments and strategies continue to change counsels that we have someone who can separate the wheat from the chaff and provide us at any given time with the best information and the best advice, even if those things change over time.

We have such a guy, but he has been muzzled. If Biden is elected, he will have a tremendous amount of work to do in addressing the coronavirus. One of the key things, though, will be to unmuzzle Fauci and allow him to speak frankly to the American people on a regular basis.

[njbill]

Prepare to be immunized!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-co ... 21758.html

Hope you boys own some Moderna.

Back to work!!

So, Pete, I should sell my Gilead now and buy Moderna?

[wgdsr]

Prepare to be immunized!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-co ... 21758.html

Hope you boys own some Moderna.

We, the taxpayers, own the National Institute of Health.

Moderna, which has foreign owners, is about to charge Americans twice of this vaccine if it works. Once in R&D, and then again if we buy the vaccine.

How did we get to be this stupid?

moderna (or any co.) should have the opportunity to make 10% net, no accounting tricks or paybacks on technology pre-covid. variable cost. i'd be ok with not having to pay the guberment for initial investment for all dollars that went to specific development. have them agree to independent audit.
big gov goes 50/50 with those covered by insurance, no deductibles.

i'm not ready for the u.s. to start nationalizing our businesses through equity as a common practice whenever we get into trouble. though it's already happening way too frequently in taking stakes and causing whatever moral hazards.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://apple.news/AfHhU4C51QJONzeNClhKGCg

Open up!!

MAGA

[DocBarrister]

But we waste critical time with this pointless discussion, because the facts are already quite clear: herd immunity will likely never be achieved for Covid-19 or any other coronavirus. We know this thanks to new research on the development and decline of Covid antibodies and from a wealth of epidemiological evidence on coronaviruses as a whole.

Antibodies to the virus would increase sharply after infection and peak after about two weeks. But then their presence would decline, generally disappearing entirely somewhere between four months and one year. In one case, a person was reinfected with the same strain of coronavirus after just four weeks from first infection.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/opinions ... index.html

This is very bad news. Calls into question whether an effective vaccine will ever be developed. COVID-19 may revisit us constantly, like a superpowerful flu. Perhaps a better comparison is the plague in medieval Europe, which exploded from time to time over a period of centuries.

What these findings suggest is that a person previously infected with COVID-19 could still get reinfected several months later.

That would be catastrophic if true.

DocBarrister