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Re: 2020 Elections - Enough Divisiveness Already

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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:24 am DB497F80-1701-47D5-9AEE-5780F317213E.jpeg
sheesh, the Executive Order did absolutely nothing more than create a campaign talking point. Would be interesting if it actually did something substantive, but it did not.

Goya's billionaire owner and CEO's family came from Spain (thus the "Hispanic") and has been a staunch supporter of the GOP.

Boo hoo that latinos are boycotting the "Hispanic" company making huge money from an americanized palate of processed food products with "Hispanic" roots. This family has profited from selling products designed for that crossover appeal, the CEO's effusive praise for Trump (twice) was very 'off brand' for many of their latino customers, perhaps not so for some of their other customers.

CEO made a choice. He had a right to do so.
Boycotters make a choice. They have a right to do so.

Some other latino business will benefit as a result.
Perhaps even with more authentic versions of the products.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:05 am
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:24 am DB497F80-1701-47D5-9AEE-5780F317213E.jpeg
sheesh, the Executive Order did absolutely nothing more than create a campaign talking point. Would be interesting if it actually did something substantive, but it did not.

Goya's billionaire owner and CEO's family came from Spain (thus the "Hispanic") and has been a staunch supporter of the GOP.

Boo hoo that latinos are boycotting the "Hispanic" company making huge money from an americanized palate of processed food products with "Hispanic" roots. This family has profited from selling products designed for that crossover appeal, the CEO's effusive praise for Trump (twice) was very 'off brand' for many of their latino customers, perhaps not so for some of their other customers.

CEO made a choice. He had a right to do so.
Boycotters make a choice. They have a right to do so.

Some other latino business will benefit as a result.
Perhaps even with more authentic versions of the products.
Ahhh a little support for Trump and the most successful hispanic brand in the country is UNAUTHENTIC

yeh you're not a liberal progressive.
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6ftstick wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:12 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:05 am
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:24 am DB497F80-1701-47D5-9AEE-5780F317213E.jpeg
sheesh, the Executive Order did absolutely nothing more than create a campaign talking point. Would be interesting if it actually did something substantive, but it did not.

Goya's billionaire owner and CEO's family came from Spain (thus the "Hispanic") and has been a staunch supporter of the GOP.

Boo hoo that latinos are boycotting the "Hispanic" company making huge money from an americanized palate of processed food products with "Hispanic" roots. This family has profited from selling products designed for that crossover appeal, the CEO's effusive praise for Trump (twice) was very 'off brand' for many of their latino customers, perhaps not so for some of their other customers.

CEO made a choice. He had a right to do so.
Boycotters make a choice. They have a right to do so.

Some other latino business will benefit as a result.
Perhaps even with more authentic versions of the products.
Ahhh a little support for Trump and the most successful hispanic brand in the country is UNAUTHENTIC

yeh you're not a liberal progressive.
do your homework on Goya.

But no, I'm not a 'liberal progressive' certainly not in the way you guys think of such.

But am I more 'classically liberal', sure.
And am I more 'progressive' than the racist, nativist crew in the White House...you betcha.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:16 am
6ftstick wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:12 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:05 am
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:24 am DB497F80-1701-47D5-9AEE-5780F317213E.jpeg
sheesh, the Executive Order did absolutely nothing more than create a campaign talking point. Would be interesting if it actually did something substantive, but it did not.

Goya's billionaire owner and CEO's family came from Spain (thus the "Hispanic") and has been a staunch supporter of the GOP.

Boo hoo that latinos are boycotting the "Hispanic" company making huge money from an americanized palate of processed food products with "Hispanic" roots. This family has profited from selling products designed for that crossover appeal, the CEO's effusive praise for Trump (twice) was very 'off brand' for many of their latino customers, perhaps not so for some of their other customers.

CEO made a choice. He had a right to do so.
Boycotters make a choice. They have a right to do so.

Some other latino business will benefit as a result.
Perhaps even with more authentic versions of the products.
Ahhh a little support for Trump and the most successful hispanic brand in the country is UNAUTHENTIC

yeh you're not a liberal progressive.
do your homework on Goya.

But no, I'm not a 'liberal progressive' certainly not in the way you guys think of such.

But am I more 'classically liberal', sure.
And am I more 'progressive' than the racist, nativist crew in the White House...you betcha.


Puerto Rico heritage. Spain by birth.

They speak Spanish better than you, I suspect. And any Latino or Latina considers them to be an Hispanic company.

Also, the only people boycotting Goya are white woke birdbrains (who don't buy the product anyway); no one else cares if they give money to Trump or Josef Stalin. The food is good. That's all that matters.
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:21 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:16 am
6ftstick wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:12 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:05 am
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:24 am DB497F80-1701-47D5-9AEE-5780F317213E.jpeg
sheesh, the Executive Order did absolutely nothing more than create a campaign talking point. Would be interesting if it actually did something substantive, but it did not.

Goya's billionaire owner and CEO's family came from Spain (thus the "Hispanic") and has been a staunch supporter of the GOP.

Boo hoo that latinos are boycotting the "Hispanic" company making huge money from an americanized palate of processed food products with "Hispanic" roots. This family has profited from selling products designed for that crossover appeal, the CEO's effusive praise for Trump (twice) was very 'off brand' for many of their latino customers, perhaps not so for some of their other customers.

CEO made a choice. He had a right to do so.
Boycotters make a choice. They have a right to do so.

Some other latino business will benefit as a result.
Perhaps even with more authentic versions of the products.
Ahhh a little support for Trump and the most successful hispanic brand in the country is UNAUTHENTIC

yeh you're not a liberal progressive.
do your homework on Goya.

But no, I'm not a 'liberal progressive' certainly not in the way you guys think of such.

But am I more 'classically liberal', sure.
And am I more 'progressive' than the racist, nativist crew in the White House...you betcha.


Puerto Rico heritage. Spain by birth.

They speak Spanish better than you, I suspect. And any Latino or Latina considers them to be an Hispanic company.

Also, the only people boycotting Goya are white woke birdbrains (who don't buy the product anyway); no one else cares if they give money to Trump or Josef Stalin. The food is good. That's all that matters.
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:16 am
MD - what is wrong with Goya products?
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When three four here get going on the angry MAGA roll:

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youthathletics wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:51 am
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:21 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:16 am
6ftstick wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:12 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:05 am
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:24 am DB497F80-1701-47D5-9AEE-5780F317213E.jpeg
sheesh, the Executive Order did absolutely nothing more than create a campaign talking point. Would be interesting if it actually did something substantive, but it did not.

Goya's billionaire owner and CEO's family came from Spain (thus the "Hispanic") and has been a staunch supporter of the GOP.

Boo hoo that latinos are boycotting the "Hispanic" company making huge money from an americanized palate of processed food products with "Hispanic" roots. This family has profited from selling products designed for that crossover appeal, the CEO's effusive praise for Trump (twice) was very 'off brand' for many of their latino customers, perhaps not so for some of their other customers.

CEO made a choice. He had a right to do so.
Boycotters make a choice. They have a right to do so.

Some other latino business will benefit as a result.
Perhaps even with more authentic versions of the products.
Ahhh a little support for Trump and the most successful hispanic brand in the country is UNAUTHENTIC

yeh you're not a liberal progressive.
do your homework on Goya.

But no, I'm not a 'liberal progressive' certainly not in the way you guys think of such.

But am I more 'classically liberal', sure.
And am I more 'progressive' than the racist, nativist crew in the White House...you betcha.


Puerto Rico heritage. Spain by birth.

They speak Spanish better than you, I suspect. And any Latino or Latina considers them to be an Hispanic company.

Also, the only people boycotting Goya are white woke birdbrains (who don't buy the product anyway); no one else cares if they give money to Trump or Josef Stalin. The food is good. That's all that matters.
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 10:16 am
MD - what is wrong with Goya products?
We have some in our pantry. I don't have any particular issue with them, and I'd agree that they are closer to authentic latin foods than what is typically produced as such by "Big Food" but they have many of the same food processing issues as those companies. But there are tons of products and companies which are more authentic to a particular region much less country. These difference truly matter to the palates of the specific sets of consumers, but not so much to our Americanized palates.

I certainly don't have any issue with an immigrant success story, the building of a successful multi-generational, family owned business.

On the other hand, "real American" Petey telling us who is boycotting and leading the boycott of Goya, because of the CEO's comments, is quite rich.

The CEO put a spotlight on himself with those comments. He could have made comments praising the initiative only, but he went into full Trumpist mode of praising Trump himself. Or better yet, he could have recognized that this was a campaign stunt and demurred from appearing at all.

That was a choice.
And then he went on Fox and doubled down, which when his donations are looked at, is really not that surprising. His comments were consistent with his billionaire point of view.

Without that spotlight, no boycott.

The boycott will benefit other latin owned businesses, including their employees.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:57 am The boycott will benefit other latin owned businesses, including their employees.
so far it seems the "boycott" is benefiting Goya Foods..... :roll:

But, yes - if you are going to air your politics on a big stage, you are going to face some consequences. Maybe they'll be negative, maybe they'll be positive. But you can't expect to play politics and not have other people "play back"..... ;)
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HooDat wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:33 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:57 am The boycott will benefit other latin owned businesses, including their employees.
so far it seems the "boycott" is benefiting Goya Foods..... :roll:

But, yes - if you are going to air your politics on a big stage, you are going to face some consequences. Maybe they'll be negative, maybe they'll be positive. But you can't expect to play politics and not have other people "play back"..... ;)
Yup, there is a Fox Business article a day ago claiming that people are loading up ($10 purchase social media campaign) on Goya in response to the boycott, often by those who've never had the products before (and may not ever actually use them)...not so sure that'll sustain, whereas there may well be sustained brand damage among regular customers.

We'll get a better sense of actual product movement through IRI data etc over the next months and year.

If you're going to get into the political fray, it's very important to be consistent with your brand positioning, else you lose brand credibility going forward. Companies get in trouble with this all the time, sometimes inadvertently, sometimes cluelessly, sometimes quite consciously because of a particular CEO not caring about the cost. This appears to be the latter.
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There’s nothing exotic nor exceptional about Goya’s core products, which are bagged dried beans and canned beans. If I’m going to buy either, and I do, then I’m going to buy Wegman’s brand and support local. There’s really nothing else they make that I would choose over another brand and I don’t ever eat those vile Vienna snausages.
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HooDat wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:33 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:57 am The boycott will benefit other latin owned businesses, including their employees.
so far it seems the "boycott" is benefiting Goya Foods..... :roll:

But, yes - if you are going to air your politics on a big stage, you are going to face some consequences. Maybe they'll be negative, maybe they'll be positive. But you can't expect to play politics and not have other people "play back"..... ;)


I'm gonna buy some today and give it to my church food bank. Think I'll keep doing that for a while. Support real Americans like the Goya family.
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ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:53 pm There’s nothing exotic nor exceptional about Goya’s core products, which are bagged dried beans and canned beans. If I’m going to buy either, and I do, then I’m going to buy Wegman’s brand and support local. There’s really nothing else they make that I would choose over another brand and I don’t ever eat those vile Vienna snausages.
We do a lot of chili in our household, so I agree, the beans are where it's at for our usage. Nothing else seems to be in our pantry or regular usage. And, yeah, Wegman's offers a perfectly fine substitute.

and definitely their meat products are pretty nasty.
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:55 pm
HooDat wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:33 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:57 am The boycott will benefit other latin owned businesses, including their employees.
so far it seems the "boycott" is benefiting Goya Foods..... :roll:

But, yes - if you are going to air your politics on a big stage, you are going to face some consequences. Maybe they'll be negative, maybe they'll be positive. But you can't expect to play politics and not have other people "play back"..... ;)


I'm gonna buy some today and give it to my church food bank. Think I'll keep doing that for a while. Support real Americans like the Goya family.
Go for it Petey. Trumpists unite.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:01 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:55 pm
HooDat wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:33 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:57 am The boycott will benefit other latin owned businesses, including their employees.
so far it seems the "boycott" is benefiting Goya Foods..... :roll:

But, yes - if you are going to air your politics on a big stage, you are going to face some consequences. Maybe they'll be negative, maybe they'll be positive. But you can't expect to play politics and not have other people "play back"..... ;)


I'm gonna buy some today and give it to my church food bank. Think I'll keep doing that for a while. Support real Americans like the Goya family.
Go for it Petey. Trumpists unite.
Are you serious...buying Goya is now Trumpist?
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ardilla secreta wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:53 pm There’s nothing exotic nor exceptional about Goya’s core products, which are bagged dried beans and canned beans. If I’m going to buy either, and I do, then I’m going to buy Wegman’s brand and support local. There’s really nothing else they make that I would choose over another brand and I don’t ever eat those vile Vienna snausages.
Danny needs to get some down in Georgia! Wegmans rules!

And have never touched the Vienna sausages. They seem like aborted spam.
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:02 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:01 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:55 pm
HooDat wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:33 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:57 am The boycott will benefit other latin owned businesses, including their employees.
so far it seems the "boycott" is benefiting Goya Foods..... :roll:

But, yes - if you are going to air your politics on a big stage, you are going to face some consequences. Maybe they'll be negative, maybe they'll be positive. But you can't expect to play politics and not have other people "play back"..... ;)


I'm gonna buy some today and give it to my church food bank. Think I'll keep doing that for a while. Support real Americans like the Goya family.
Go for it Petey. Trumpists unite.
Are you serious...buying Goya is now Trumpist?
To the Trumpists of Fox Nation.
They're running a social media campaign to buy Goya products.

But yeah, the owner and CEO of Goya apparently is a Trump supporter.
He made a choice to be political.

His right, his choice.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:21 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:02 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:01 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:55 pm
HooDat wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:33 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:57 am The boycott will benefit other latin owned businesses, including their employees.
so far it seems the "boycott" is benefiting Goya Foods..... :roll:

But, yes - if you are going to air your politics on a big stage, you are going to face some consequences. Maybe they'll be negative, maybe they'll be positive. But you can't expect to play politics and not have other people "play back"..... ;)


I'm gonna buy some today and give it to my church food bank. Think I'll keep doing that for a while. Support real Americans like the Goya family.
Go for it Petey. Trumpists unite.
Are you serious...buying Goya is now Trumpist?
To the Trumpists of Fox Nation.
They're running a social media campaign to buy Goya products.

But yeah, the owner and CEO of Goya apparently is a Trump supporter.
He made a choice to be political.

His right, his choice.
So if your wife boys Goya, she is a Trumpist Fox Nation person...do I have that right?
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:26 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:21 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:02 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:01 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:55 pm
HooDat wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:33 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:57 am The boycott will benefit other latin owned businesses, including their employees.
so far it seems the "boycott" is benefiting Goya Foods..... :roll:

But, yes - if you are going to air your politics on a big stage, you are going to face some consequences. Maybe they'll be negative, maybe they'll be positive. But you can't expect to play politics and not have other people "play back"..... ;)


I'm gonna buy some today and give it to my church food bank. Think I'll keep doing that for a while. Support real Americans like the Goya family.
Go for it Petey. Trumpists unite.
Are you serious...buying Goya is now Trumpist?
To the Trumpists of Fox Nation.
They're running a social media campaign to buy Goya products.

But yeah, the owner and CEO of Goya apparently is a Trump supporter.
He made a choice to be political.

His right, his choice.
So if your wife boys Goya, she is a Trumpist Fox Nation person...do I have that right?
Nope, that’s a perverse way of understanding what he’s saying.

Would you like it explained to you?
Now I love those cowboys, I love their gold
Love my uncle, God rest his soul
Taught me good, Lord, taught me all I know
Taught me so well, that I grabbed that gold
I left his dead ass there by the side of the road, yeah
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youthathletics wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:02 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:01 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:55 pm
HooDat wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:33 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:57 am The boycott will benefit other latin owned businesses, including their employees.
so far it seems the "boycott" is benefiting Goya Foods..... :roll:

But, yes - if you are going to air your politics on a big stage, you are going to face some consequences. Maybe they'll be negative, maybe they'll be positive. But you can't expect to play politics and not have other people "play back"..... ;)


I'm gonna buy some today and give it to my church food bank. Think I'll keep doing that for a while. Support real Americans like the Goya family.
Go for it Petey. Trumpists unite.
Are you serious...buying Goya is now Trumpist?
Do you sleep on a MyPillow?
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