All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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How many of your friends and family members have died of the Chinese Corona Virus?

0 people
44
64%
1 person.
10
14%
2 people.
3
4%
3 people.
5
7%
More.
7
10%
 
Total votes: 69

Peter Brown
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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In Florida, my great home state!, apparently the labs are only reporting positive cases now. The negatives not being reported. Doesn't mean the absolute number is different, just that the positive percentage is skewed.


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The other issue being discussed down here is labs are paid more via further testing when they report positives...because 'positives' are required to retest two and 4 weeks after.

Meanwhile no one I know has tested positive.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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Are deaths increasing or decreasing?

Petey said they would keep going down, despite all the new cases.

What do you say now troll?
Boycott stupid. If you ignore the gator troll, eventually he'll just go back under his bridge.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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It’s like our guy in the White House. Liars don’t stop because they are caught.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:25 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:00 am
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:51 am
CU77 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:12 pm Time to check in once again with the Sunshine State, where PB assures us that all is just orange-y keen:


DEATHS0711.jpg

HOSP0711.jpg
Whats your obsession other than Florida has a Republican Goverrnor.

To date Florida Coronavirus deaths 4,197

To date Massachusetts Coronavirus deaths 8310.

To date New Jersey Coronavirus deaths 15,479

To date New York Coronavirus deaths 32,037.
It’s a good thing there are so few seniors living in Florida. The state should rebound in mere hours.
Most of those seniors were doing quite well while Cuomo and Byrne were killing THOUSANDS of seniors in their Nursing homes

Fn Republican derangement
What is the percentage of the total reported deaths? Make sure you put a decimal in the right spot.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:49 am
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:25 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:00 am
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:51 am
CU77 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:12 pm Time to check in once again with the Sunshine State, where PB assures us that all is just orange-y keen:


DEATHS0711.jpg

HOSP0711.jpg
Whats your obsession other than Florida has a Republican Goverrnor.

To date Florida Coronavirus deaths 4,197

To date Massachusetts Coronavirus deaths 8310.

To date New Jersey Coronavirus deaths 15,479

To date New York Coronavirus deaths 32,037.
It’s a good thing there are so few seniors living in Florida. The state should rebound in mere hours.
Most of those seniors were doing quite well while Cuomo and Byrne were killing THOUSANDS of seniors in their Nursing homes

Fn Republican derangement
What is the percentage of the total reported deaths? Make sure you put a decimal in the right spot.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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What clowns....I saw the surgeon general give an interview with a mask on. Where was it 2 months ago?

https://www.cnn.com/
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:49 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:49 am
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:25 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:00 am
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:51 am
CU77 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:12 pm Time to check in once again with the Sunshine State, where PB assures us that all is just orange-y keen:


DEATHS0711.jpg

HOSP0711.jpg
Whats your obsession other than Florida has a Republican Goverrnor.

To date Florida Coronavirus deaths 4,197

To date Massachusetts Coronavirus deaths 8310.

To date New Jersey Coronavirus deaths 15,479

To date New York Coronavirus deaths 32,037.
It’s a good thing there are so few seniors living in Florida. The state should rebound in mere hours.
Most of those seniors were doing quite well while Cuomo and Byrne were killing THOUSANDS of seniors in their Nursing homes

Fn Republican derangement
What is the percentage of the total reported deaths? Make sure you put a decimal in the right spot.
KMA
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6ftstick
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:50 am
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:49 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:49 am
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:25 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:00 am
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:51 am
CU77 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:12 pm Time to check in once again with the Sunshine State, where PB assures us that all is just orange-y keen:


DEATHS0711.jpg

HOSP0711.jpg
Whats your obsession other than Florida has a Republican Goverrnor.

To date Florida Coronavirus deaths 4,197

To date Massachusetts Coronavirus deaths 8310.

To date New Jersey Coronavirus deaths 15,479

To date New York Coronavirus deaths 32,037.
It’s a good thing there are so few seniors living in Florida. The state should rebound in mere hours.
Most of those seniors were doing quite well while Cuomo and Byrne were killing THOUSANDS of seniors in their Nursing homes

Fn Republican derangement
What is the percentage of the total reported deaths? Make sure you put a decimal in the right spot.
KMA
Ok Sonic Boom. I am undefeated.
At what
Peter Brown
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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ggait wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:41 am Are deaths increasing or decreasing?

Petey said they would keep going down, despite all the new cases.

What do you say now troll?


When death rates drop to zero but the media doesn’t want you to celebrate the news....

https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden- ... ked-2020-7


Just yesterday the Fanlax Fems were demanding that Sweden was a disaster. :lol:
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:55 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:50 am
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:49 am
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:49 am
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:25 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:00 am
6ftstick wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:51 am
CU77 wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:12 pm Time to check in once again with the Sunshine State, where PB assures us that all is just orange-y keen:


DEATHS0711.jpg

HOSP0711.jpg
Whats your obsession other than Florida has a Republican Goverrnor.

To date Florida Coronavirus deaths 4,197

To date Massachusetts Coronavirus deaths 8310.

To date New Jersey Coronavirus deaths 15,479

To date New York Coronavirus deaths 32,037.
It’s a good thing there are so few seniors living in Florida. The state should rebound in mere hours.
Most of those seniors were doing quite well while Cuomo and Byrne were killing THOUSANDS of seniors in their Nursing homes

Fn Republican derangement
What is the percentage of the total reported deaths? Make sure you put a decimal in the right spot.
KMA
Ok Sonic Boom. I am undefeated.
At what
Power placement. You don’t want to see the video. Just put the decimal in the right spot Colon.

Power placement is an obscure reference
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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Roughly .20 which is not .20% ( in NYS)....That’s like Trump saying I have told you for the 1/100th time.....

https://skillednursingnews.com/2020/06/ ... opulation/

Like I said, if nursing home deaths are under represented in NYS, the number with likely track to the mean upon further research. It’s hard to determine the number of extra deaths from sending patients back to nursing homes. Obviously better to have not sent them back. China should have advised Cuomo. It’s China’s fault.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:44 am It’s like our guy in the White House. Liars don’t stop because they are caught.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Putting Petey's homophobic slur aside, Sweden is worth taking another look at.

Their death rates are going way down. Why? Because their infection rate has been going way down. Why? Because Swedes (on a voluntary basis still) are doing some big time social distancing. Ironically, Sweden currently has the strictest SD-ing in its region.

Its peer countries went SD earlier and harder than Sweden. So those countries have been able to gradually re-open sooner. While Sweden has had to continue more restricted for a longer time. Is there a lesson to be learned in there?

Next, the data is showing that Sweden got no economic benefit from its plan, just more deaths. Another lesson -- it is hard to have a good economy without having sound public health.

Next, it appears that Sweden's higher death toll (primarily among the elderly) may have been due to some aggressive triage-ing. Sweden's health system and ICUs never got overwhelmed. Apparently because the ICU beds were rationed and allocated to those with the higher chances of survival. So many of the elder deaths were among folks who get "death paneled" away from intensive care. Within reason, that's a valid strategy. But somewhat ironic for the righties pointing at Sweden as the model.

Last, Sweden kept its elementary schools open the whole time. We'd all love to know what the impact of that choice was as we now approach September. Unfortunately, Sweden didn't track the data on that. Ugh!!!!!! Hopefully, there's a way to do a retrospective analysis there.

P.S. Peter Brown keeps telling us that Dems are all gay men and ugly women. Literally. Brown-shirt much, Petey?
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ggait wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:46 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:44 am It’s like our guy in the White House. Liars don’t stop because they are caught.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Putting Petey's homophobic slur aside, Sweden is worth taking another look at.

Their death rates are going way down. Why? Because their infection rate has been going way down. Why? Because Swedes (on a voluntary basis still) are doing some big time social distancing. Ironically, Sweden currently has the strictest SD-ing in its region.

Its peer countries went SD earlier and harder than Sweden. So those countries have been able to gradually re-open sooner. While Sweden has had to continue more restricted for a longer time. Is there a lesson to be learned in there?

Next, the data is showing that Sweden got no economic benefit from its plan, just more deaths. Another lesson -- it is hard to have a good economy without having sound public health.

Next, it appears that Sweden's higher death toll (primarily among the elderly) may have been due to some aggressive triage-ing. Sweden's health system and ICUs never got overwhelmed. Apparently because the ICU beds were rationed and allocated to those with the higher chances of survival. So many of the elder deaths were among folks who get "death paneled" away from intensive care. Within reason, that's a valid strategy. But somewhat ironic for the righties pointing at Sweden as the model.

Last, Sweden kept its elementary school open the whole time. We'd all love to know what the impact of that choice was as we now approach September. Unfortunately, Sweden didn't track the data on that. Ugh!!!!!!

P.S. Peter Brown keeps telling us that Dems are all gay men and ugly women. Literally. Brown-shirt much, Petey?
I don’t even get it, gay dudes often have a solid corner of the market of hot straight women and not only is their endorsement worth gold with said hotties but they often will proactively bird dog girls at bars for you. Such shortsightedness.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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ggait wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:46 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:44 am It’s like our guy in the White House. Liars don’t stop because they are caught.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Putting Petey's homophobic slur aside, Sweden is worth taking another look at.

Their death rates are going way down. Why? Because their infection rate has been going way down. Why? Because Swedes (on a voluntary basis still) are doing some big time social distancing. Ironically, Sweden currently has the strictest SD-ing in its region.

Its peer countries went SD earlier and harder than Sweden. So those countries have been able to gradually re-open sooner. While Sweden has had to continue more restricted for a longer time. Is there a lesson to be learned in there?

Next, the data is showing that Sweden got no economic benefit from its plan, just more deaths. Another lesson -- it is hard to have a good economy without having sound public health.

Next, it appears that Sweden's higher death toll (primarily among the elderly) may have been due to some aggressive triage-ing. Sweden's health system and ICUs never got overwhelmed. Apparently because the ICU beds were rationed and allocated to those with the higher chances of survival. So many of the elder deaths were among folks who get "death paneled" away from intensive care. Within reason, that's a valid strategy. But somewhat ironic for the righties pointing at Sweden as the model.

Last, Sweden kept its elementary school open the whole time. We'd all love to know what the impact of that choice was as we now approach September. Unfortunately, Sweden didn't track the data on that. Ugh!!!!!!

P.S. Peter Brown keeps telling us that Dems are all gay men and ugly women. Literally. Brown-shirt much, Petey?
Swedes seem to be sensible: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/hist ... -a-luxury/

Not a high redneck factor
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Interesting set of analyses and per capita comparisons.

Unfortunately, the trajectory is awful.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:06 pm
Interesting set of analyses and per capita comparisons.

Unfortunately, the trajectory is awful.
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Peter Brown wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:12 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 12:06 pm
Interesting set of analyses and per capita comparisons.

Unfortunately, the trajectory is awful.

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wrong article, Pete.
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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Very interesting data analysis...and one that was called out in June...Legacy Data Laundering: https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/stat ... 79136?s=20

And another way of viewing from July 4: https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/stat ... 60161?s=20

What is occurring right now is, the reserve CDC date-cataloged deaths, which are not yet reported by the states, are being reported by the states over time (hence the Gompertz arrival). While this might be academically/bureaucratically proper, it is morally & ethically bankrupt: https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/stat ... 49158?s=20
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Re: All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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ggait wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 11:46 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Jul 12, 2020 10:44 am It’s like our guy in the White House. Liars don’t stop because they are caught.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Putting Petey's homophobic slur aside, Sweden is worth taking another look at.

Their death rates are going way down. Why? Because their infection rate has been going way down. Why? Because Swedes (on a voluntary basis still) are doing some big time social distancing. Ironically, Sweden currently has the strictest SD-ing in its region.

Its peer countries went SD earlier and harder than Sweden. So those countries have been able to gradually re-open sooner. While Sweden has had to continue more restricted for a longer time. Is there a lesson to be learned in there?

Next, the data is showing that Sweden got no economic benefit from its plan, just more deaths. Another lesson -- it is hard to have a good economy without having sound public health.

Next, it appears that Sweden's higher death toll (primarily among the elderly) may have been due to some aggressive triage-ing. Sweden's health system and ICUs never got overwhelmed. Apparently because the ICU beds were rationed and allocated to those with the higher chances of survival. So many of the elder deaths were among folks who get "death paneled" away from intensive care. Within reason, that's a valid strategy. But somewhat ironic for the righties pointing at Sweden as the model.

Last, Sweden kept its elementary schools open the whole time. We'd all love to know what the impact of that choice was as we now approach September. Unfortunately, Sweden didn't track the data on that. Ugh!!!!!! Hopefully, there's a way to do a retrospective analysis there.
where are you getting your data on infection rates, social distancing, peer countries' opening and restriction measures vs?
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