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CU77 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:57 pm
6ftstick wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:51 pm Did you hear all Ivies cancelled all fall sports.
Good thing I don't care about Ivy fall sports …

I'm much more worried about Akron soccer. Akron is my hometown, and the UofA has a great soccer team, national champs in 2010 and national runner-up (to Maryland) in 2018 … I was at the final four both times ...
Death by 1,000 passes. Caleb Porter was interested in my son as a soccer player. He gave up soccer for lacrosse but I loved watching those Akron soccer teams. Nobody played soccer like them. Kofi Sarkodie, Teal Bunbury, Darlington Nagbe, Anthony Ampaipitakwong....those were my guys man!
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:52 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:41 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:27 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:37 pm
ggait wrote: Wed Jul 08, 2020 5:17 pm
This isn't correct. What the left is asking for is a return, ironically, to the 1950's economy in terms of what you call wealth transfer.
We've had this conversation sooo many times before.

Young lefties are basically asking for what my Reagan Democrat father had -- govt guaranteed mortgage via the GI Bill, secure lifetime employment (thanks to his union membership), basically free health care for life, basically free college for himself and his kids, guaranteed retirement from SS and his union pension.

As the lefties correctly claim, all they are really asking for is Ike's GOP platform from 1956. Fact check on that is below.


https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... was-prett/
That doesn't even come close to addressing what I'm saying so, no, what I'm saying hasn't been covered many times before as if I'm some dolt that can't understand reason or heuristics.

But that would require exactly the same conditions and outcomes. That doesn't exist today. Why is this so difficult to understand. A new environment requires different approaches not "turning back the clock". That's not possible.

Mortgages - what multiple of income was it back then? In the 1980s and before home prices were a much lower multiple of the median income.

Lifetime employment - who can tell me how many companies in the top 1000 in revenues from 1970 exist today? I've worked in high yield, land of dying business models due to disruption and innovation. Ever heard of Polaroid and Kodak? A&P was the largest employer per capita in the early 1960s and gonzo. Westinghouse, ITT, Deluxe Corporation (paper checks), etc. UBI and retraining are the only things that can help this.
-Same with pensions. The unions agreed to allow for present value accounting and not fully funded immediately. It's as much their fault, Union's aren't the salve for all workers problems.

College, run up because of a combination of cheap subsidized student loans and their non profit status allowing the largest elite ones to build gross endowments, in fact they can't by law spend more than 10% in a year or lose TE status.

We created this monster by all of our collective actions, we got the government we deserved and now we have this world that exists today. It's like people believe in ceteris paribus. The conditions and environment allowed for that then, it doesn't now, it requires a different prescription. It's undergrad economics at a liberal arts school. I'm far more comfortable with JHU72s concept of a paradigm change, but I don't believe it's even possible to just "swing the pendulum" the other way while maintaining the same system. Have to be thinking about completely heterodox theories, these arguments still rely on orthodox macroeconomic theory. Does this not make sense to any of these smart folks out there?

I guess I'll always be the chinese fingertrap on here. Have argued for retraining, UBI or something along those lines and other "socialist" (to some) efforts. We simply cannot keep doing the same things. I'd really urge everyone to read Antifragile. Government cannot, ever, keep all people from any negative events or adverse outcomes, that's not possible. The more government tries to protect us and solve all of our collective problems, the larger the fractures (and more frequent) they will be. That's not a good outcome.
So when the Dead Kennedys we’re talking about the end of the American Dream in 1979, what did all these folks do in the subsequent 40yrs? When they were talking about JFKs assassination. And then of course they fought bitterly over money and sold their songs to movies later in life.

This is what I expect of current millennials and xennenials. They aren’t smart enough to realize anything. They are rehashing an argument which existed around the time i was born.

Real change if so desires requires true paradigm change not just regime change in effort to go back to the glory days.

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You know I was just thinking about pensions. I worked at a company for 7 years and earned a Pension. It’s going to be at least enough to cover property taxes. It’s enough to make a difference. I chuckle every time I see it on my retirement statement. It’s like found money. My guess is the NPV of the stream is probably $300k. Not bad for such a short amount of time. About 4 months after I left, the plan was closed out.
Even Commerzbank dropped theirs a number of years ago, and that was a fat one you got for getting to five years of service. They definitely can't afford it now...I miss their healthcare contribution though, they had this stupid cadillac plan for all front office workers (bankers and traders) at day one.
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Is that Joni Mitchell or Cinderella?

My dad took me to a Bulletboys, Winger, Cinderella concert at the War Memorial when I was 9 or 10. He actually commented, as mostly a jazz and old school country/folk fan, that last band (Cinderella) wasn't that bad. He was only there because he had dropped me off at a Bon Jovi/Skid Row concert at the Carrier Dome and headed to a jazz club during my concert earlier that year and my mother nearly murdered him, so the next few he suffered through for his kid. I can't listen to a lot of that hair glam band music anymore, but I'll never forget him being a terrific sport putting up with it for me back then.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:04 pm
CU77 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:57 pm I'm much more worried about Akron soccer. Akron is my hometown, and the UofA has a great soccer team, national champs in 2010 and national runner-up (to Maryland) in 2018 … I was at the final four both times ...
Death by 1,000 passes. Caleb Porter was interested in my son as a soccer player. He gave up soccer for lacrosse but I loved watching those Akron soccer teams. Nobody played soccer like them. Kofi Sarkodie, Teal Bunbury, Darlington Nagbe, Anthony Ampaipitakwong....those were my guys man!
Amen brother!

And appily for Akron, Caleb convinced the admin to hire his assistant Jared Embick as his successor, rather than going for a bigger name. Embick has kept the stye and done a fantastic job in a very difficult environment.

Here's a great video of a long passing sequence ending in a goal during their 2018 NCAA win over arch-nemesis Stanford, who had bounced them from 2 previous tournaments:

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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:13 pm Is that Joni Mitchell or Cinderella?
Joni Mitchell was who I was hearing in my head …

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CU77 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:22 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:04 pm
CU77 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:57 pm I'm much more worried about Akron soccer. Akron is my hometown, and the UofA has a great soccer team, national champs in 2010 and national runner-up (to Maryland) in 2018 … I was at the final four both times ...
Death by 1,000 passes. Caleb Porter was interested in my son as a soccer player. He gave up soccer for lacrosse but I loved watching those Akron soccer teams. Nobody played soccer like them. Kofi Sarkodie, Teal Bunbury, Darlington Nagbe, Anthony Ampaipitakwong....those were my guys man!
Amen brother!

And appily for Akron, Caleb convinced the admin to hire his assistant Jared Embick as his successor, rather than going for a bigger name. Embick has kept the stye and done a fantastic job in a very difficult environment.

Here's a great video of a long passing sequence ending in a goal during their 2018 NCAA win over arch-nemesis Stanford, who had bounced them from 2 previous tournaments:

I always thought Caleb Porter should get a stint as USMNT coach. The ball moves. It’s an attractive style! We were working on getting my son out there for a camp but lacrosse became his focus at the end of his freshman year of high school. Considered two sports at Duke & Maryland but changed his focus.

BTW, that’s what you call football! What patience. I never liked those Stanford teams. A rough English style of play.....one of my son’s club mates played for them. Not sure he ever saw anytime but has one or two titles.
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6ftstick wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:43 pm And they're funneling virtue signal donations extorted from fortune 100 companies running scared. MILLONS
And all because the Republicans couldn't quit Trump.

Who'da thunk Rick Wilson would be making anti-Republican ads and giving them away for free to the Democrats?

Here's another one. Dontcha just luv 'em???

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And one more. Because they're just so good!

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Just watched Bidens speech on the economy. He did a good job. He stumbled a few times, but no big deal. In fact if he can do this every time he speaks, Trump should be afraid, very afraid. The message was perfect for his audience in north east, industrial Pennsylvania. Seemed well received.

Perfect message for blue collar working class voters. He promises to raise corporate taxes back to the base 28%, undoing what Trump did.
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Luv 'em! They're just so good!

This might be the best!

If we need that extra push over the cliff, ya know what we do...eleven, exactly.
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Nigel wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:54 pm Luv 'em! They're just so good!

This might be the best!

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Nigel wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:54 pm This might be the best!
You guys really miss Rick Wilson. He'd tell you that 3 minutes and 41 seconds is WAYYYY too long.

And man, is "the best is yet to come" really all ya got?

I sure hope the best is yet to come, 'cause what we got so far (mass death and the worst economy since the Great Depression) ain't so good …

And Samuel L. Jackson might not approve of your use of his image, YA. You'd better send him a check.
Samuel L. Jackson ‘Doesn’t Give a F**k’ If Speaking Out Against Trump Loses Him Fans

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CU77 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:21 pm
Nigel wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:54 pm This might be the best!
You guys really miss Rick Wilson. He'd tell you that 3 minutes and 41 seconds is WAYYYY too long.

And man, is "the best is yet to come" really all ya got?

I sure hope the best is yet to come, 'cause what we got so far (mass death and the worst economy since the Great Depression) ain't so good ...
You guys staying the gutter just proves, if not for double standards, you'd have none. Your adds are no worse than what you complain about Trump, daily.

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jhu72 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:51 pm Just watched Bidens speech on the economy. He did a good job. He stumbled a few times, but no big deal. In fact if he can do this every time he speaks, Trump should be afraid, very afraid. The message was perfect for his audience in north east, industrial Pennsylvania. Seemed well received.

Perfect message for blue collar working class voters. He promises to raise corporate taxes back to the base 28%, undoing what Trump did.
Yeh If he can stumble and bumble just a little.....
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CU77 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:21 pm
Nigel wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:54 pm This might be the best!
You guys really miss Rick Wilson. He'd tell you that 3 minutes and 41 seconds is WAYYYY too long.

And man, is "the best is yet to come" really all ya got?

I sure hope the best is yet to come, 'cause what we got so far (mass death and the worst economy since the Great Depression) ain't so good …

And Samuel L. Jackson might not approve of your use of his image, YA. You'd better send him a check.
Samuel L. Jackson ‘Doesn’t Give a F**k’ If Speaking Out Against Trump Loses Him Fans

"This m**********r is like ruining the planet and all kinds of other crazy s**t," Jackson says about Donald Trump.
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/03/heck/
Thats not Samuel Jackson—they must all look alike to you!
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youthathletics wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:28 pm
CU77 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:21 pm
Nigel wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:54 pm This might be the best!
You guys really miss Rick Wilson. He'd tell you that 3 minutes and 41 seconds is WAYYYY too long.

And man, is "the best is yet to come" really all ya got?

I sure hope the best is yet to come, 'cause what we got so far (mass death and the worst economy since the Great Depression) ain't so good ...
You guys staying the gutter just proves, if not for double standards, you'd have none. Your adds are no worse than what you complain about Trump, daily.

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One of the biggest ironies in life is Democrats don't have the self-awareness to see that their behavior is exactly like Trump, but with an anti-American socialist veneer.
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:51 pm Just watched Bidens speech on the economy. He did a good job. He stumbled a few times, but no big deal. In fact if he can do this every time he speaks, Trump should be afraid, very afraid. The message was perfect for his audience in north east, industrial Pennsylvania. Seemed well received.

Perfect message for blue collar working class voters. He promises to raise corporate taxes back to the base 28%, undoing what Trump did.


Is he going to undo 3.5% unemployment too?
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Peter Brown wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:59 pm
jhu72 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:51 pm Just watched Bidens speech on the economy. He did a good job. He stumbled a few times, but no big deal. In fact if he can do this every time he speaks, Trump should be afraid, very afraid. The message was perfect for his audience in north east, industrial Pennsylvania. Seemed well received.

Perfect message for blue collar working class voters. He promises to raise corporate taxes back to the base 28%, undoing what Trump did.


Is he going to undo 3.5% unemployment too?
:lol: Uh oh. Pete lost his calculator and a calendar.

Hey Pete....what's unemployment in the US today? Care to try again?
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youthathletics wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:28 pm You guys staying the gutter just proves, if not for double standards, you'd have none. Your adds are no worse than what you complain about Trump, daily.
Correct. The criminal conman lying grifter Trump has dragged us down into the gutter with him, where we are going to fight him tooth and nail with his own party's former henchmen at our side.

And thank god for that, because the Democrats are totally useless at this kind of warfare.

Rick Wilson was responsible for the execrable smear in 2002 of Georgia Democratic Senator Max Cleland, who lost both legs and an arm in Vietnam. Wilson produced ads falsely tying Cleland to Osama Bin Laden and questioning his patriotism. Cleland lost that election.

But now Wilson is on our side. And Trump is next.
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CU77 wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:13 pm
youthathletics wrote: Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:28 pm You guys staying the gutter just proves, if not for double standards, you'd have none. Your adds are no worse than what you complain about Trump, daily.
Correct. The criminal conman lying grifter Trump has dragged us down into the gutter with him, where we are going to fight him tooth and nail with his own party's former henchmen at our side.

And thank god for that, because the Democrats are totally useless at this kind of warfare.

Rick Wilson was responsible for the execrable smear in 2002 of Georgia Democratic Senator Max Cleland, who lost both legs and an arm in Vietnam. Wilson produced ads falsely tying Cleland to Osama Bin Laden and questioning his patriotism. Cleland lost that election.

Trump is next.
Who are you kidding Democrats are totally useless at this.

They invented in. Bill and Hillary perfected the politics of personal destruction.

Where you been for 4 Fn years. Everyday its a new assault—alleged
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