2020 Elections - Trump FIRED

[6ftstick]

I've already signed up to knock on doors this Fall for Sleepy/Creepy. Also been giving $$$. Absolutely voting a straight party ticket from top to bottom regardless of circumstances.

Never done any of those things before in my life.

Not taking anything for granted until January 21, 2021.

Trump has completely deranged me. And the GOP has to pay for that.

You come across as an imntelligent individual

But

Renegotiated trade deals with Mexico Canada China and Europe resulting in 10's of Billions surplus for US business

Wiping out the ISIS Caliphate, no more children being crucified by barbarians

the Market was about to break 30,000

The largest labor participation rate since records were kept

Minority Unemployment best ever

Middle class tax cuts

100's of thousands of manufacturing jobs returned to the US—jobs liberal progressives said would never return

Trillions of dollars repatriated to the US

Millions fewer Americans on food stamps

NATO partners actually paying their share to protect them

All that has deranged you?

But you support Biden and liberal progressive who will

increase violence in the streets

Defund the Police

Expand abortion

Spread Autonomous zones in major American cities

Support Black Lives Matter—a marxist front group (Alicia Garza, one of three co-founders of the Black Lives Matter national organization, has repeatedly talked about how convicted cop killer and wanted domestic terrorist Joanne Chesimard, also known as Assata Shakur, is one of her main inspirations. Susan Rosenberg, a member of the board of directors for the left-wing Thousand Currents group, which handles the intake of donations made to Black Lives Matter, is a convicted terrorist who, among other things, was suspected of helping Shakur escape from prison.)

Then You can't be trusted with the vote

Sure there are people who feel like ggait, we see quite a few right on this board. What happens though if the more extreme factions of left gain real power/influence? Biden won't stand a chance. What will happen to markets and all those 401ks? Many people's nest eggs gone with no way to recover under a Biden admin that is intent on reversing the Trump pro-business landscape right out of gate.

It's possible the indifference shown by D governors/mayors, letting anarchy reign in so-called sanctuary cities, and supporting disastrous policies like "defund police," may be a wake up call for swing voters (silent majority) who fear for their family's future.

For the first time in my life, I am pulling every democrat lever that I see. Every single one.

Gotta love 6ft's last one bolded above.
Yup, the brown shirt response.

I'm VERY happy with my GOP Governor (competence/empathy/conservative), but he's not on the ballot this cycle.
So, I too will be pulling only D levers for the first time in my life, first time ever for a D lever for President.

tech, I do understand your concern about the far left becoming ascendant.
Particularly in light of the shattering of all norms in checks on Presidential power.
That said, I'm not concerned with Biden's first term.
Beyond that, different story.
That's what 2022 and 2024, and beyond, can be about, assuming the GOP breaks its Trumpist fever/death grip.

But this white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence needs to get washed out of the GOP first. That's going to be difficult as so many chose to 'bend the knee' to Trump and Trumpism, but it's a necessity.

Do so, and Dems will be forced to compete for the middle of the electorate.

What do my first ten points have too do with "white supremacist, nativist, whining, corruption, incompetence"

I could debate a number of those points, but it's really not the point.

Eliminate the "white supremacist, nativist, whining, corruption, incompetence" of Trump and Trumpism and you can try to make a case, competing for the middle of the electorate, but that requires dumping Trump and Trumpism wholly, first.

Embracing "the white supremacist, nativist, whining, corruption, incompetence of Trump and Trumpism" loses the center and enables Dems to not have the reject the nut jobs of the far, far left.

Going forward, want to compete and force the Dems to compete?
Dump Trump.

Your assumption middle class Americans in the middle favor defunding the police, violence in their streets infanticide the demolition of American History and full out marxism is BS. Not to put too fine a point on it.

[MDlaxfan76]

I've already signed up to knock on doors this Fall for Sleepy/Creepy. Also been giving $$$. Absolutely voting a straight party ticket from top to bottom regardless of circumstances.

Never done any of those things before in my life.

Not taking anything for granted until January 21, 2021.

Trump has completely deranged me. And the GOP has to pay for that.

You come across as an imntelligent individual

But

Renegotiated trade deals with Mexico Canada China and Europe resulting in 10's of Billions surplus for US business

Wiping out the ISIS Caliphate, no more children being crucified by barbarians

the Market was about to break 30,000

The largest labor participation rate since records were kept

Minority Unemployment best ever

Middle class tax cuts

100's of thousands of manufacturing jobs returned to the US—jobs liberal progressives said would never return

Trillions of dollars repatriated to the US

Millions fewer Americans on food stamps

NATO partners actually paying their share to protect them

All that has deranged you?

But you support Biden and liberal progressive who will

increase violence in the streets

Defund the Police

Expand abortion

Spread Autonomous zones in major American cities

Support Black Lives Matter—a marxist front group (Alicia Garza, one of three co-founders of the Black Lives Matter national organization, has repeatedly talked about how convicted cop killer and wanted domestic terrorist Joanne Chesimard, also known as Assata Shakur, is one of her main inspirations. Susan Rosenberg, a member of the board of directors for the left-wing Thousand Currents group, which handles the intake of donations made to Black Lives Matter, is a convicted terrorist who, among other things, was suspected of helping Shakur escape from prison.)

Then You can't be trusted with the vote

Sure there are people who feel like ggait, we see quite a few right on this board. What happens though if the more extreme factions of left gain real power/influence? Biden won't stand a chance. What will happen to markets and all those 401ks? Many people's nest eggs gone with no way to recover under a Biden admin that is intent on reversing the Trump pro-business landscape right out of gate.

It's possible the indifference shown by D governors/mayors, letting anarchy reign in so-called sanctuary cities, and supporting disastrous policies like "defund police," may be a wake up call for swing voters (silent majority) who fear for their family's future.

For the first time in my life, I am pulling every democrat lever that I see. Every single one.

Gotta love 6ft's last one bolded above.
Yup, the brown shirt response.

I'm VERY happy with my GOP Governor (competence/empathy/conservative), but he's not on the ballot this cycle.
So, I too will be pulling only D levers for the first time in my life, first time ever for a D lever for President.

tech, I do understand your concern about the far left becoming ascendant.
Particularly in light of the shattering of all norms in checks on Presidential power.
That said, I'm not concerned with Biden's first term.
Beyond that, different story.
That's what 2022 and 2024, and beyond, can be about, assuming the GOP breaks its Trumpist fever/death grip.

But this white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence needs to get washed out of the GOP first. That's going to be difficult as so many chose to 'bend the knee' to Trump and Trumpism, but it's a necessity.

Do so, and Dems will be forced to compete for the middle of the electorate.

What do my first ten points have too do with "white supremacist, nativist, whining, corruption, incompetence"

I could debate a number of those points, but it's really not the point.

Eliminate the "white supremacist, nativist, whining, corruption, incompetence" of Trump and Trumpism and you can try to make a case, competing for the middle of the electorate, but that requires dumping Trump and Trumpism wholly, first.

Embracing "the white supremacist, nativist, whining, corruption, incompetence of Trump and Trumpism" loses the center and enables Dems to not have the reject the nut jobs of the far, far left.

Going forward, want to compete and force the Dems to compete?
Dump Trump.

Your assumption middle class Americans in the middle favor defunding the police, violence in their streets infanticide the demolition of American History and full out marxism is BS. Not to put too fine a point on it.

No, the "middle of the electorate" are those who are repelled by the extremes on both ends, who want to solve problems not throw bricks.

And they don't see Biden or the Dems as a whole as representing the extremes you describe, nor even embracing such extremes. Whereas they do see "the white supremacist, nativist, whining, corruption, incompetence of Trump and Trumpism".

Get rid of Trump and Trumpism and the Dems will be forced to similarly reject the far, far left, assuming they wish to actually win. Their current candidate is moderate-progressive, though with arguably the most progressive social platform in history because the country has so shifted in that direction on so many issues. But a far cry from what it would have been with several of the other candidates.

If you are truly concerned about future candidates and policies significantly further to the left then you actually have to compete for the middle of the electorate, not repel them with "white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt incompetence".

BTW, "middle of the electorate" does not equal "middle class". You can find plenty of moderates among very poor or super wealthy parts of our population, as well as lots of whack job extremes, both left and right, throughout the economic groups.

[6ftstick]

Gotta love 6ft's last one bolded above.
Yup, the brown shirt response.

I'm VERY happy with my GOP Governor (competence/empathy/conservative), but he's not on the ballot this cycle.
So, I too will be pulling only D levers for the first time in my life, first time ever for a D lever for President.

tech, I do understand your concern about the far left becoming ascendant.
Particularly in light of the shattering of all norms in checks on Presidential power.
That said, I'm not concerned with Biden's first term.
Beyond that, different story.
That's what 2022 and 2024, and beyond, can be about, assuming the GOP breaks its Trumpist fever/death grip.

But this white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence needs to get washed out of the GOP first. That's going to be difficult as so many chose to 'bend the knee' to Trump and Trumpism, but it's a necessity.

Do so, and Dems will be forced to compete for the middle of the electorate.

This is the CURRENT democrat party. Out of their own mouths.

Ex 1: Alicia Garza, one of three co-founders of the Black Lives Matter national organization, has repeatedly talked about how convicted cop killer and wanted domestic terrorist Joanne Chesimard, also known as Assata Shakur, is one of her main inspirations. Susan Rosenberg, a member of the board of directors for the left-wing Thousand Currents group, which handles the intake of donations made to Black Lives Matter, is a convicted terrorist who, among other things, was suspected of helping Shakur escape from prison. CEOS of Major US corporations are taking millions from their profits and donating millions to BLM

Ex 2: Defund the Police means DEFUND THE POLICE.—AOC
Already accomplished in Minneapolis and NYC soon to be ratified in many other democrat controlled cities

Ex 3: Talib and Omars most recent "anti semitic legislation"

Ex. 4: State legislatures passing then cheering for legislation that kills the newly born and calls it abortion.

Ex. 5: Seattle city council member Kshama Sawant (avowed socialist} framed Monday’s 7-2 council vote for the hefty payroll tax on larger businesses as a step toward the goal of overthrowing the “bankrupt system of capitalism” and replacing it with “a socialist world.” Warns Jeff Bezos 'We are coming for you'

Ex 6: Collin Kaep says he won't participate in the White Supremacist Celebration of Jul 4th. And the NFL owners are all knuckling under.

Bidens not bringing them back to the middle. No matter what republicans do. Bidens not in charge now and never was.

[MDlaxfan76]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

[6ftstick]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

[tech37]

No, the "middle of the electorate" are those who are repelled by the extremes on both ends, who want to solve problems not throw bricks.

And they don't see Biden or the Dems as a whole as representing the extremes you describe, nor even embracing such extremes.

And you know this, how? Don't tell me by the polls. IMO, the polls mean nothing, especially this election cycle.

Again, there is a silent majority that is frozen stiff with fear to admit to anything, and uncertain about everything, and Covid has not improved their mental health one iota.

[MDlaxfan76]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

[6ftstick]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

Hyperbolic nonsense? Its happening now as we speak, all across the country. Elected liberal progressive democrats warning corporations We're coming for you. Defund the police. Capitalism sucks. Openly extorting corporate officers to donate to openly marxist organizations with the blessing of the MSM.

Wake the FK up!

[Peter Brown]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

6ft is exactly correct. What you don't want to acknowledge (wonder why) is none of 6ft's points are in fact 'far right conspiracy' talking points...they are straight up down the middle.

Joe Biden is the last normal DNC leader. After him, 6ft is correct: the Marxists take over.

[Peter Brown]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

Hyperbolic nonsense? Its happening now as we speak, all across the country. Elected liberal progressive democrats b;eating We're coming for you.Defund the police. Capitalism sucks.

Wake the FK up!

MD has TDS, and leans left anyway. He won't capitulate.

[MDlaxfan76]

No, the "middle of the electorate" are those who are repelled by the extremes on both ends, who want to solve problems not throw bricks.

And they don't see Biden or the Dems as a whole as representing the extremes you describe, nor even embracing such extremes.

And you know this, how? Don't tell me by the polls. IMO, the polls mean nothing, especially this election cycle.

Again, there is a silent majority that is frozen stiff with fear to admit to anything, and uncertain about everything, and Covid has not improved their mental health one iota.

ohhh, it's certainly one man's opinion, tech.

But this man's opinion is that there are millions of voters like me. I have yet to speak to someone who would have similarly described themselves as a reliable but non- hyper partisan GOP voter, fiscally conservative, socially moderate, who isn't so repelled by Trump and Trumpism that they won't vote for him. Some won't vote for Biden, but they all are adamant that they won't vote for Trump again.

I think THAT's the 2020 silent majority.
By contrast, the folks who are ok with the corruption and incompetence, the nativism and white supremacism, are very, very loud.

I hope I'm right.

Of course, some will indeed go into the booth and vote R because they just can't break with their past, following human nature, so I'd predict that the election will be closer than the polling would now predict. But nevertheless, overwhelming.

That is, unless the pandemic breaks hard one way or the other.
Unfortunately for the country, both medically and economically, it looks like it's going to break badly for Trump's election chances given how he positioned himself to it. Disastrously wrong.

[tech37]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

Nothing hyperbolic regarding that statement

[MDlaxfan76]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

Hyperbolic nonsense? Its happening now as we speak, all across the country. Elected liberal progressive democrats warning corporations We're coming for you. Defund the police. Capitalism sucks. Openly extorting corporate officers to donate to openly marxist organizations with the blessing of the MSM.

Wake the FK up!

Go back to watching OAN or whatever twaddle turns you on.

OR
Dump Trump and Trumpism and then get to work rebuilding a party, with candidates who exude competence not BS and hate.

That'll stand in stark contrast to whatever extremes scare you the most.

[MDlaxfan76]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

Nothing hyperbolic regarding that statement

Just telling you how its viewed by the middle of the electorate, tech. Including the folks who are going to cross over and vote for a D, perhaps for the first time ever.

[6ftstick]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

Hyperbolic nonsense? Its happening now as we speak, all across the country. Elected liberal progressive democrats warning corporations We're coming for you. Defund the police. Capitalism sucks. Openly extorting corporate officers to donate to openly marxist organizations with the blessing of the MSM.

Wake the FK up!

Go back to watching OAN or whatever twaddle turns you on.

OR
Dump Trump and Trumpism and then get to work rebuilding a party, with candidates who exude competence not BS and hate.

That'll stand in stark contrast to whatever extremes scare you the most.

Twaddle? Hyperbolic nonsense?

Reality just eludes you.

But your undocumented alleged millions who will vote D this time is a certainty.

TDS is a terrible thing.

[tech37]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

Nothing hyperbolic regarding that statement

Just telling you how its viewed by the middle of the electorate, tech. Including the folks who are going to cross over and vote for a D, perhaps for the first time ever.

Covid has certainly helped your cause in getting rid of Trump but all of things you so smugly blow off as "hyperbolic nonsense," certainly hurts you cause.

[MDlaxfan76]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

Nothing hyperbolic regarding that statement

Just telling you how its viewed by the middle of the electorate, tech. Including the folks who are going to cross over and vote for a D, perhaps for the first time ever.

Covid has certainly helped your cause in getting rid of Trump but all of things you so smugly blow off as "hyperbolic nonsense," certainly hurts you cause.

no, the 'hyperbolic nonsense' is the twaddle being fed to you by the right wing media machine.

Of course, like any such 'twaddle', it has elements of truth.
Those truths will ultimately hurt the Dems, not my 'cause'.

I reject the extremes on both ends.
Trumpism relies upon, has doubled, tripled and quadrupled down on the extremes of the hard right.

And coupled that with corruption and incompetence.

Get rid of Trump and Trumpism and compete for the middle and the electorate of the future, not the electorate of the past...all I'm saying.

On COVID, Trump had a perfect opportunity to demonstrate competence and empathy, both from himself and from his Administration.

He flunked miserably. We're ALL paying the price.

[Farfromgeneva]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

Hyperbolic nonsense? Its happening now as we speak, all across the country. Elected liberal progressive democrats warning corporations We're coming for you. Defund the police. Capitalism sucks. Openly extorting corporate officers to donate to openly marxist organizations with the blessing of the MSM.

Wake the FK up!

Go back to watching OAN or whatever twaddle turns you on.

OR
Dump Trump and Trumpism and then get to work rebuilding a party, with candidates who exude competence not BS and hate.

That'll stand in stark contrast to whatever extremes scare you the most.

Twaddle? Hyperbolic nonsense?

Reality just eludes you.

But your undocumented alleged millions who will vote D this time is a certainty.

TDS is a terrible thing.

Yeah MD, we all know that liberals are holding children as sex slaves in Comet Pizza! You just don't see the real world!

[MDlaxfan76]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

Hyperbolic nonsense? Its happening now as we speak, all across the country. Elected liberal progressive democrats warning corporations We're coming for you. Defund the police. Capitalism sucks. Openly extorting corporate officers to donate to openly marxist organizations with the blessing of the MSM.

Wake the FK up!

Go back to watching OAN or whatever twaddle turns you on.

OR
Dump Trump and Trumpism and then get to work rebuilding a party, with candidates who exude competence not BS and hate.

That'll stand in stark contrast to whatever extremes scare you the most.

Twaddle? Hyperbolic nonsense?

Reality just eludes you.

But your undocumented alleged millions who will vote D this time is a certainty.

TDS is a terrible thing.

"undocumented"

You reject polls, so I'm just giving you my view from the middle, a moderate, normally highly reliable GOP voter.
You and several other posters clearly have no such perspective as you are in a right wing bubble.

Nothing is certain, as I said, just one man's opinion.

You don't want to hear it, fine by me.

[MDlaxfan76]

argue all you want, 6ft, about the Dems. You're talking to and for a rapidly shrinking part of the electorate.

I'm a registered Republican, have never voted for a D for POTUS before, many times voted a straight GOP ticket, sometimes mixed.

And I, like many millions of others, including some on here, will be crossing over to vote D in November.

The GOP won't get me back until they wash out Trump and Trumpism.

But do so, and then we'll again have a choice as to where we want to lean, conservative or progressive, issue by issue, candidate by candidate, with neither extreme ascendant.

So you're gonna vote to defund the police, eliminate history, expand infanticide, accept violence in the streets, confiscatory taxation and replace capitalism with Marxism.

Gotcha.

Again, that's a lot of hyperbolic nonsense in the short term, not remotely accurate of what would be the case in the Biden administration.

That's just deep, far right OAN, Q-anon sorts of talk. Shrinking, though currently very, very loud part of the population.

However, if one is actually worried about a huge pendulum swing to the left occurring over the next decade or two, then clean out the Trumpist garbage, reorient the GOP to actually compete for the electorate of the future, and compete for the middle of the electorate.

Hyperbolic nonsense is not a long term winning strategy, it's the dying gasp of the dumb and angry.

Let the far left be the ones who alienate the center, instead. But gotta wash out the 'white supremacist, nativist, whining, corrupt, incompetence' first. It's overwhelming.

Hyperbolic nonsense? Its happening now as we speak, all across the country. Elected liberal progressive democrats warning corporations We're coming for you. Defund the police. Capitalism sucks. Openly extorting corporate officers to donate to openly marxist organizations with the blessing of the MSM.

Wake the FK up!

Go back to watching OAN or whatever twaddle turns you on.

OR
Dump Trump and Trumpism and then get to work rebuilding a party, with candidates who exude competence not BS and hate.

That'll stand in stark contrast to whatever extremes scare you the most.

Twaddle? Hyperbolic nonsense?

Reality just eludes you.

But your undocumented alleged millions who will vote D this time is a certainty.

TDS is a terrible thing.

Yeah MD, we all know that liberals are holding children as sex slaves in Comet Pizza! You just don't see the real world!