All things Chinese CoronaVirus

[Typical Lax Dad]

Virus spiking in SoCal, AZ, TX and FL.

That's quite bad for the prospects of big time football in the Pac12, Big12 and SEC.

USC, for example just reversed its plan to have students on campus in the fall.

For a liberal hoax that is going to magically disappear soon, this Kung Flu is really messing a lot of things up.

Maybe we can have Kung Flu exhibitions instead?

[wgdsr]

So now we have a little data that suggests (as expected) that HCQ+AZ provides some modest benefits in treating Covid patients very early on. But that it isn't a preventive and also doesn't help seriously ill patients.

That's good news -- any additional tools to the tool box are welcome.

Also good news that docs and researchers completely ignored DOPUS. All along they were able to prescribe (off label) and test the drug in situations they thought appropriate. Several HCQ trials are continuing.

So the docs and scientists did exactly what they would have done if DOPUS had just kept his pie hole shut and spared us his worthless bull shirtery.

The trials will tell the tale on HCQ. Likely result is that it is modestly helpful in a certain subset of patients/situations when combined with a few other drugs. A tweener single; not a home run.

would be great if on hcq or anything else if we could get some signif trials.
regeneron has a new experimental antibody cocktail going thru multiple stages bc it's "new", and is pushing thru latter stage trials so must've had some success to be promising. exposure and latter stage.
hcq trials, hopefully penn and others, may be out relatively soon. data to see if it works as a preventative prophylaxis and get something out there on early treatment in combo with other drugs.
probably a number of antibody trials or at least studies are forthcoming. maybe more antivirals and steroids as well.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Florida back in the mid 40’s on reported deaths like clockwork.

[old salt]

Maryland update : holding steady at low plateau of critical indicators (hospital/acute/ICU beds & positivity rate), slowly continuing downward trend, while testing totals remain at highest level, gradually trending upward.

Our timing was fortunate. Our Governor was very much in the loop with the Feds & State governors. We had the time to learn from the NYC metro experience. Our state govt used that time wisely to prepare before the CV wave slowly spread down the I-95 corridor. Hospital capability was expanded. Local health officials expanded contact tracing teams, Gov Hogan took extraordinary steps to secure PPE & test kits without burning bridges with the Trump admin. He timed the lockdown & reopening accurately, leaving discretion to individual counties once the re-opening began. The only bad metric was nursing home deaths, like most of the NE/MI/IL -- the early states which were slow to respond, before the PPE shortage was overcome enough to adequately support those facilities.

Our low plateau of the critical metrics tells me we have a contact tracing effort that is working.
Here's how it was described for MD & my county in the WP 6 wks ago :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/ma ... story.html

Before the state acted, this Maryland county launched a contact-tracing army
May 21, 2020 at 3:00 p.m. EDT

Carrie Moran made the cold call while Maria Ramirez, a Spanish-speaking health assistant, crouched over the speakerphone at the edge of the desk.
“Did they call you yet with your results?” Ramirez said, interpreting for the Maryland man in his 30s on the other end of the line. He said no.
“We’re calling to let you know that you tested positive for covid-19.”
“Oh, sí,” the man replied softly after a pause. “Sí,” Ramirez repeated.
Thirty-five minutes later, Moran, a school nurse supervisor whose schools are closed because of the pandemic, had notes about the man’s symptoms, his living arrangements, his job and his whereabouts since he fell ill.

Similar calls are being made across the country, from California to Massachusetts. As states start to emerge from the strict shutdowns imposed as part of the effort to fight the novel coronavirus, they are scrambling to hire tens of thousands of people to trace the path of the deadly infection. Notifying those who have been exposed — and persuading them to isolate and get tested — has been a vital part of curbing the pandemic in countries around the world, including South Korea and Germany, public health experts say.

Local leaders in Maryland and top Democrats in Annapolis have accused Gov. Larry Hogan (R) of moving too slowly to hire contact tracers through the University of Chicago’s National Opinion Research Center (NORC). Filling the gap, for now, are people like Moran, part of an army of school health workers deployed by the Anne Arundel County government.

Over the course of a week, Moran and her colleagues made contact with the 30-something man’s relatives and tried to track down his boss, along with hundreds of others exposed to infected patients.
Some of their targets do not return calls. Some say they cannot afford to stay home from work or are reluctant to give information for contacts. And others have no idea when or where they may have contracted the virus, making it hard to determine who they might have infected.

Karen Karnes, supervisor of the county’s epidemiology program, said people have abruptly hung up on contact tracers, then called back to apologize. She said she understands that it sometimes takes time for people to process the fact that they are infected and what that might mean.
“It can be a real struggle,” she said. “It’s important that contact tracers are really good listeners, be empathetic and talk to people on a level that they feel comfortable, providing them with the education that they need to understand this disease.”

Detectives and social workers
While tests identify who has the coronavirus, contact tracing — a public health practice widely used in underdeveloped countries but only marginally in the United States — determines how far it has spread.

A spokesman for Hogan said Thursday that Maryland has hired 650 contact tracers who will be “fully operational” as of next week, joining nearly 800 locally hired contact tracers throughout the state. In Virginia, Gov. Ralph Northam (D) said the state is in the process of expanding its tracing force from 300 to 1,300. The District has hired an additional 130 contact tracers to meet its goal of 200 for the first phase of its recovery. Mayor Muriel E. Bowser (D) said the new hires should finish training by June 1.

Anne Arundel, a largely suburban county of more than a half-million people on the shores of the Chesapeake Bay, is already paying almost 100 school nurses and others to do the work. In two months, the team grew from six registered nurses to 86 nurses, health assistants, bilingual support staffers and behavioral health specialists.
“The governor is talking about it now, as they plan a pilot program with NORC,” Pittman said earlier this week. “We’ve been doing it.”

County Health Officer Nilesh Kalyanaraman described the team’s mission as a mix of detective work and social work. Along with ferreting out who may have been exposed, contact tracers have found themselves consoling the grief-stricken and locating resources for families who need food, shelter, diapers, formula or medical assistance.
“We should call it contact-tracing case management,” Pittman said. “We’re doing case management on every one.”

Moran gathers details about her patients and anyone with whom they may have been in proximity for more than 10 minutes — the amount of time in which exposure is possible, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. She calls daily to monitor their condition and remind them to remain isolated in quarantine.

Joshua Sharfstein, vice dean for public health practice and community engagement at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, praised the county’s early launch of contact tracing and its focus on black and Hispanic communities and other vulnerable populations.

Contact tracing for Anne Arundel’s first known case — a woman in her 70s from Montana, in town to visit relatives — centered on those family members. The trail in other cases has led to a party attended by an infected person, a military base and a doctor’s office. “We did put the people from the party on quarantine,” Karnes recalled.

She said it is nearly impossible to pinpoint where an infected person was exposed, unless it is traced back to a family member or co-worker. But still, they try.
“It’s kind of difficult,” she said of coming to a conclusion that a person may have become infected during a trip to the grocery store or the bank. “Even with salmonella, you ask: ‘You ate here? You ate there?’ You try to figure it out, but you really can’t.”

One of the team’s most challenging cases originated in a house divided into four apartments. Sixteen people lived there. After a man in his 40s died and posthumously tested positive for the coronavirus, 13 other occupants — ages 8 through 70 — tested positive, too.
The grieving relatives were reluctant to provide information to contact tracers, Karnes said. Others in the home, many of whom spoke Spanish, expressed a distrust of government.
“For some of the teenagers, it was difficult to have them understand the need to stay in the home,” she said. “One of the girls had a job. She was concerned about her family, and we wouldn’t let her go to work.”

This week, the contact tracers were working on 855 cases, their biggest caseload since the outbreak. They average about 75 new cases a day, Kalyanaraman said. The county expects to bring on additional employees from government or the local community college as the number of positive cases mount. The disease-prevention bureau is also looking at how technology could play a role.

[jhu72]

So do Abbot (TX), Ducey (AZ) and DeSantis (FL) have electoral eligibility remaining? They might consider looking for new lines of work. They should not count on dog catcher jobs being open to them.

[wgdsr]

So do Abbot (TX), Ducey (AZ) and DeSantis (FL) have electoral eligibility remaining? They might consider looking for new lines of work. They should not count on dog catcher jobs being open to them.

why these 3 in particular?

[kramerica.inc]

Because they didn’t do as good a job as Cuomo, Murphy and Newsome...



Or perhaps it was the little “r” by their name.

[jhu72]

… or its because they are in the process (beginning) to get hit really really hard by the virus and they played the same game Trump has - deny, spin and slow roll which is catching up with them. I would not count on any one of them having much of a future in politics.

[jhu72]

… just saw a scary report from a Florida infectious disease doctor that says they are seeing that people who get infected with COVID - 67% that survive have scarred lungs after the disease. Doesn't matter whether they were hospitalized or even asymptomatic. I would guess there is a different % for each class, but that data was not given. 67% is a bigger % than those hospitalized, so a lot of non-hospitalized individuals are less healthy than you would think, after their run in with the disease.

[wgdsr]

… or its because they are in the process (beginning) to get hit really really hard by the virus and they played the same game Trump has - deny, spin and slow roll which is catching up with them. I would not count on any one of them having much of a future in politics.

well, whitmer, murphy and cuomo sure have the deny, spin and slow roll part down.
and cali, louisiana and north carolina govs? dogcatcher material?

[njbill]

… or its because they are in the process (beginning) to get hit really really hard by the virus and they played the same game Trump has - deny, spin and slow roll which is catching up with them. I would not count on any one of them having much of a future in politics.

You are going to break poor little Pete’s heart.

[kramerica.inc]

… or its because they are in the process (beginning) to get hit really really hard by the virus and they played the same game Trump has - deny, spin and slow roll which is catching up with them. I would not count on any one of them having much of a future in politics.

There is plenty of bad governing out there these days. Including some terrible work by the governors of AZ, CA, NJ, NY, MN, VA, RI (see reading below) who did a horrendous job protecting the elderly communities. In some cases putting the sick in with the healthy but compromised elderly. Do you think those geniuses will be able to get another job?

There have been roughly 130,000 Corona deaths in the US. 52,000 (40%) have been eldercare facility residents.

More reading:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatl ... le/613855/

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... kZkVktScDk.

[6ftstick]

So now we have a little data that suggests (as expected) that HCQ+AZ provides some modest benefits in treating Covid patients very early on. But that it isn't a preventive and also doesn't help seriously ill patients.

That's good news -- any additional tools to the tool box are welcome.

Also good news that docs and researchers completely ignored DOPUS. All along they were able to prescribe (off label) and test the drug in situations they thought appropriate. Several HCQ trials are continuing.

So the docs and scientists did exactly what they would have done if DOPUS had just kept his pie hole shut and spared us his worthless bull shirtery.

The trials will tell the tale on HCQ. Likely result is that it is modestly helpful in a certain subset of patients/situations when combined with a few other drugs. A tweener single; not a home run.

would be great if on hcq or anything else if we could get some signif trials.
regeneron has a new experimental antibody cocktail going thru multiple stages bc it's "new", and is pushing thru latter stage trials so must've had some success to be promising. exposure and latter stage.
hcq trials, hopefully penn and others, may be out relatively soon. data to see if it works as a preventative prophylaxis and get something out there on early treatment in combo with other drugs.
probably a number of antibody trials or at least studies are forthcoming. maybe more antivirals and steroids as well.

The confusion being sown about the virus what treatments work which don't the vaccines and the "SPIKES in CASES" is all meant to keep us timid and afraid so the economy doesn't recover and TRUMP loses. This is all about the election.

[Peter Brown]

… or its because they are in the process (beginning) to get hit really really hard by the virus and they played the same game Trump has - deny, spin and slow roll which is catching up with them. I would not count on any one of them having much of a future in politics.

You are going to break poor little Pete’s heart.

Every time I see a Democrat prematurely dancing on DeSantis' grave, I go back to Worldometer to look where the United States has had out-sized Covid mortality and it always comes back as New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Massachusetts. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

[cradleandshoot]

So now we have a little data that suggests (as expected) that HCQ+AZ provides some modest benefits in treating Covid patients very early on. But that it isn't a preventive and also doesn't help seriously ill patients.

That's good news -- any additional tools to the tool box are welcome.

Also good news that docs and researchers completely ignored DOPUS. All along they were able to prescribe (off label) and test the drug in situations they thought appropriate. Several HCQ trials are continuing.

So the docs and scientists did exactly what they would have done if DOPUS had just kept his pie hole shut and spared us his worthless bull shirtery.

The trials will tell the tale on HCQ. Likely result is that it is modestly helpful in a certain subset of patients/situations when combined with a few other drugs. A tweener single; not a home run.

would be great if on hcq or anything else if we could get some signif trials.
regeneron has a new experimental antibody cocktail going thru multiple stages bc it's "new", and is pushing thru latter stage trials so must've had some success to be promising. exposure and latter stage.
hcq trials, hopefully penn and others, may be out relatively soon. data to see if it works as a preventative prophylaxis and get something out there on early treatment in combo with other drugs.
probably a number of antibody trials or at least studies are forthcoming. maybe more antivirals and steroids as well.

The confusion being sown about the virus what treatments work which don't the vaccines and the "SPIKES in CASES" is all meant to keep us timid and afraid so the economy doesn't recover and TRUMP loses. This is all about the election.

Never let a good crisis go to waste the Dems like to say.

[6ftstick]

Whats a really cool thing about being governor of California is that you can shut down restaurants and wineries all over the state BUT in the county where YOU own a winery and restaurant you can keep them open.

Four legs good two legs better.

Defund the Police.

[cradleandshoot]

Whats a really cool thing about being governor of California is that you can shut down restaurants and wineries all over the state BUT in the county where YOU own a winery and restaurant you can keep them open.

Four legs good two legs better.

Defund the Police.

It's good to be king!

[wgdsr]

Regeneron signs a $450 million contract for its coronavirus therapy

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/07/regener ... idappshare

u.s. dropping half a bill on regeneron. looked briefly for phase 2 last night and evidently there isn't any. phase one with 30 patients must've been safe at least:
https://investor.regeneron.com/news-rel ... prevention

good to be big pharma.

novavax getting over a billion, they're semi-advanced on a vaccine, hopefully that means results look good so far.

[youthathletics]

Whats a really cool thing about being governor of California is that you can shut down restaurants and wineries all over the state BUT in the county where YOU own a winery and restaurant you can keep them open.

Four legs good two legs better.

Defund the Police.

It's good to be king!

And to pander. Seems it's okay to protest, but not go outside unless you protest.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/ar ... 383308.php

[CU88]

Rutgers researchers say further study is needed but those with the chronic respiratory disease don’t appear to be at a higher risk of getting extremely ill or dying from coronavirus

https://www.rutgers.edu/news/asthma-doe ... -xqE4SJS6Q