All things Chinese CoronaVirus

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How many of your friends and family members have died of the Chinese Corona Virus?

0 people
44
64%
1 person.
10
14%
2 people.
3
4%
3 people.
5
7%
More.
7
10%
 
Total votes: 69

6ftstick
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jhu72 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:46 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:34 pm
6ftstick wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:43 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:15 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:37 pm … another country doesn't want American visitors. Great Britain has announced we are on the their red list. MAGA
Does that make us a sh!t hole country?
We've always been a turd hole country to you and your buds.
When there’s mold growing on the walls do you eradicate it or let it bloom?

If you don’t love it, then leave it. We’re going to fix it.
+1
The enablers of marxists and the clueless dependent telling the productive to leave cause they're gonna fix it. #fvck the fourth and defund the police!
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6ftstick wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:19 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:46 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:34 pm
6ftstick wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:43 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:15 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:37 pm … another country doesn't want American visitors. Great Britain has announced we are on the their red list. MAGA
Does that make us a sh!t hole country?
We've always been a turd hole country to you and your buds.
When there’s mold growing on the walls do you eradicate it or let it bloom?

If you don’t love it, then leave it. We’re going to fix it.
+1
The enablers of marxists and the clueless dependent telling the productive to leave cause they're gonna fix it. #fvck the fourth and defund the police!
You can go back to Europe.....wait they don’t want to be infested by the Americans so we have been banned.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:25 pm
6ftstick wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:19 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:46 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:34 pm
6ftstick wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:43 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:15 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:37 pm … another country doesn't want American visitors. Great Britain has announced we are on the their red list. MAGA
Does that make us a sh!t hole country?
We've always been a turd hole country to you and your buds.
When there’s mold growing on the walls do you eradicate it or let it bloom?

If you don’t love it, then leave it. We’re going to fix it.
+1
The enablers of marxists and the clueless dependent telling the productive to leave cause they're gonna fix it. #fvck the fourth and defund the police!
You can go back to Europe.....wait they don’t want to be infested by the Americans so we have been banned.
Fankly I appreciate a first second fourth and fifth Amendment. You don't so ou can go anywhere. Try Venezuela or China. Already got the socialism you want to bring here.
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6ftstick wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:35 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:25 pm
6ftstick wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:19 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:46 pm
ardilla secreta wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:34 pm
6ftstick wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:43 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:15 pm
jhu72 wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:37 pm … another country doesn't want American visitors. Great Britain has announced we are on the their red list. MAGA
Does that make us a sh!t hole country?
We've always been a turd hole country to you and your buds.
When there’s mold growing on the walls do you eradicate it or let it bloom?

If you don’t love it, then leave it. We’re going to fix it.
+1
The enablers of marxists and the clueless dependent telling the productive to leave cause they're gonna fix it. #fvck the fourth and defund the police!
You can go back to Europe.....wait they don’t want to be infested by the Americans so we have been banned.
Fankly I appreciate a first second fourth and fifth Amendment. You don't so ou can go anywhere. Try Venezuela or China. Already got the socialism you want to bring here.
You are infested
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kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:15 pm And by “fix it” you mean cater to an even bigger generation of dependent crybabies than the boomers.


What "fixing it" means.
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jhu72 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:37 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:15 pm And by “fix it” you mean cater to an even bigger generation of dependent crybabies than the boomers.


What "fixing it" means.
Liberal progressives "Fixing it"

Open borders
Free healthcare
Infanticide
Green new deal
Tax increases
defund the police
Free college
Dependency
Socialism
Reeducation camps
No more second amendment, 4th amendment, 5th amendment
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Testing way behind where we should be (graph is tests divided by confirmed cases - should be ideally above 50-100):

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Need to be testing at 4-10x current level, and doing a much better job as SD/other measures to limit spread.
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... you got to love the clowns who think HCQ is being dissed because Trump supports it. They have the situation 180 degrees turned. The only reason they are supporting it is because Trump does - projection on a massive scale. Don't wear a mask (that's akin to the Holocaust); don't social distance; take your daily 300-400 mg of HCQ, you'll live forever and the genital warts will clear up.
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… we are on the verge of having a new all time leader in daily infection rate. New York currently holds the record for the most in a single day at 11,824. Let's hear it for Florida who yesterday managed 11,458, now in second place and climbing.
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jhu72 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:17 pm
... you got to love the clowns who think HCQ is being dissed because Trump supports it. They have the situation 180 degrees turned. The only reason they are supporting it is because Trump does - projection on a massive scale. Don't wear a mask (that's akin to the Holocaust); don't social distance; take your daily 300-400 mg of HCQ, you'll live forever and the genital warts will clear up.
yeah. it couldn't be both sides. you are seeing so clearly.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:15 pm And by “fix it” you mean cater to an even bigger generation of dependent crybabies than the boomers.
The crybabies are the ones that won’t wear a mask. Let’s start with that.
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RedFromMI wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:52 pm Testing way behind where we should be (graph is tests divided by confirmed cases - should be ideally above 50-100):

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Need to be testing at 4-10x current level, and doing a much better job as SD/other measures to limit spread.
so who would you test, that's not able to get a test now?
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wgdsr wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:31 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:17 pm
... you got to love the clowns who think HCQ is being dissed because Trump supports it. They have the situation 180 degrees turned. The only reason they are supporting it is because Trump does - projection on a massive scale. Don't wear a mask (that's akin to the Holocaust); don't social distance; take your daily 300-400 mg of HCQ, you'll live forever and the genital warts will clear up.
yeah. it couldn't be both sides. you are seeing so clearly.
… sorry, but one side is right and one side is wrong. Either HCQ is effective and safe or it isn't. The media may be playing games, but the real scientist aren't.
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jhu72 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:44 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:31 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:17 pm
... you got to love the clowns who think HCQ is being dissed because Trump supports it. They have the situation 180 degrees turned. The only reason they are supporting it is because Trump does - projection on a massive scale. Don't wear a mask (that's akin to the Holocaust); don't social distance; take your daily 300-400 mg of HCQ, you'll live forever and the genital warts will clear up.
yeah. it couldn't be both sides. you are seeing so clearly.
… sorry, but one side is right and one side is wrong. Either HCQ is effective and safe or it isn't. The media may be playing games, but the real scientist aren't.
if you've made a conclusion already, i'm glad you don't read my lab results.
if you are consumed by your political beliefs, your politicians will ultimately let you down.
bank on it.
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The bitter-end irony:Lockdown delayed the escalation to 14% seroprev immunity in the <70 population & ironically ended up killing even MORE elder citizens in LTC.

Lockdowns killed citizens both directly thru economy/access & indirectly by delaying herd immunity in the young.

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wgdsr wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:55 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:44 pm
wgdsr wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:31 pm
jhu72 wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:17 pm
... you got to love the clowns who think HCQ is being dissed because Trump supports it. They have the situation 180 degrees turned. The only reason they are supporting it is because Trump does - projection on a massive scale. Don't wear a mask (that's akin to the Holocaust); don't social distance; take your daily 300-400 mg of HCQ, you'll live forever and the genital warts will clear up.
yeah. it couldn't be both sides. you are seeing so clearly.
… sorry, but one side is right and one side is wrong. Either HCQ is effective and safe or it isn't. The media may be playing games, but the real scientist aren't.
if you've made a conclusion already, i'm glad you don't read my lab results.
if you are consumed by your political beliefs, your politicians will ultimately let you down.
bank on it.
:lol: my politicians or political beliefs have nothing to do with whether HCQ is effective and safe. NO ONE HAS PROVEN IT TO BE SAFE AND EFFECTIVE - scientific reality, not hope, not wish, not belief. The most recent nonsense out of Henry Ford most certainly did not do that. An effective vaccine will be in hand long before anyone does. If you think it is safe and effective, of just don't care, knock yourself. There are doctors, not many, who will prescribe it for you.
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Of Pretend Sleep and Authentic Dreams
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