How many schools will drop lacrosse?

[MDlaxfan76]

I am a registered Democrat who was referencing CNN.com.

Nice try though. That response is what is wrong with politics in our country. I am allowed to be a liberal AND think mainstream media is contributing to fear and panic in this country.

and you'd be wrong.

and that's from a lifelong Republican, though one who actually believes in science and expertise.

Let's hope this is a one year painful phenomenon not multiple years...

Agreed. Reporting on factual data hardly seems like “panic porn”

“Apocalyptic surges in major US cities” in large black font isn’t even a little bit over the top for you? Sorry, it just wreaks of panic click bait. I prefer NYT or WaPo.

A few of my other favorites.

“If coronavirus pandemic marks the collapse of civilization, would we know? Experts weigh in.”-Yahoo

“Welcome to the worst economy ever.” -CNN

“Why does Donald Trump want our school children to get sick?” -The Daily Beast

The collapse of civilization one is my all time favorite. Can you read those above and honestly say they aren’t hyperbolic?

yes, headlines do tend to be 'hyperbolic' on all sorts of subjects, not just this one...they are obviously intended to be attention grabbers.

But this particular challenge is very much one that deserves attention and careful response, because our best defense is actual collective action to reduce risk of exponential spread.

We can get though this thing much, much better, working and playing, IF we all pull together to accomplish it without creating out of control spikes.

Unfortunately, way, way too many dismissed it as 'just the flu'. From the very top the messaging has been to ignore, downplay, or dismiss it altogether...so, we have way more cases and deaths than anyplace else in the world, and instead of getting it under control the way many developed nations have done, we're back in a high growth curve.

I agree with calourie that we don't yet know all the facts about what these spikes will create in terms of death and long term damage to health, but we do know that we're quite out of control on spread.

Fingers still crossed on these next 6 months, sports etc, but I think we are at least as likely to have the pro leagues throw in the towel than not, as they start to try to practice and play and players come down with it. Hope not, but feels very possible.

[Drcthru]

https://sports.yahoo.com/amid-financial ... 07847.html

UCONN will save $10 million, annually, for 120 student athletes ? What?

The Huskies are trying to tell us that they spend , on average, $80k a year , per athlete? What, are they flying the X-C team , first class, to New Zealand, for a race?

They are cutting $10M from the athletic department. They are cutting 4 teams as well as taking "other cost-cutting measures". Cutting teams is the headline, but the other cuts may be where most of the $10M in savings comes from.

"other cost cutting measures".....like getting rid of the losing football team. Had no idea the re-hired Randy Edsell.

Does the guy know how to win, anywhere? UCONN football is a waste of money. Especially THIS coaching staff.

but, either way, UCONN doesn't have a mens lacrosse team, so don't know why I am even discussing them.

Do you know why you do anything?

A quote from that scumbag Patton, who charged his own US Army troops........why do you love Patton so much? he got his in the end, didn't he. Tried to mess with the oligarchies plans...........Patton was to stupid. Did Patton ever pull the trigger of the pearl handled handguns?

Ivory handled. I am a scholar of Patton. I despise the man but, I love the quote!

[FannOLax]

Denying factual data seems so much easier than acting upon it; but however effective denial seems in the short term, it's a recipe for disaster in the long run.

The problem with our Cold 19 response and projecting appropriate national behavior from here is that we are still gathering factual data...

I was also taking into account Global Climate Change, about which there is ample data and a strong scientific consensus; yet denial is rife.

[runrussellrun]

https://sports.yahoo.com/amid-financial ... 07847.html

UCONN will save $10 million, annually, for 120 student athletes ? What?

The Huskies are trying to tell us that they spend , on average, $80k a year , per athlete? What, are they flying the X-C team , first class, to New Zealand, for a race?

They are cutting $10M from the athletic department. They are cutting 4 teams as well as taking "other cost-cutting measures". Cutting teams is the headline, but the other cuts may be where most of the $10M in savings comes from.

"other cost cutting measures".....like getting rid of the losing football team. Had no idea the re-hired Randy Edsell.

Does the guy know how to win, anywhere? UCONN football is a waste of money. Especially THIS coaching staff.

but, either way, UCONN doesn't have a mens lacrosse team, so don't know why I am even discussing them.

Do you know why you do anything?

A quote from that scumbag Patton, who charged his own US Army troops........why do you love Patton so much? he got his in the end, didn't he. Tried to mess with the oligarchies plans...........Patton was to stupid. Did Patton ever pull the trigger of the pearl handled handguns?

Ivory handled. I am a scholar of Patton. I despise the man but, I love the quote!

Not surprised, it's a stupid quote. Because, anything from rock bottom, with NO where to go BUT up, is success? As a Hopkins fan, you should know this!

Patton would have done well in the private, for profit charter school narrative.

edit: apologize for getting NON-lacrosse on this thread/section. Although, this is very "topical" ....

......can't find my chamfer bit to finish off the new TACH install on the center console........is it too early to "recreate" ? Never a good idea with power tools....

[Drcthru]

https://sports.yahoo.com/amid-financial ... 07847.html

UCONN will save $10 million, annually, for 120 student athletes ? What?

The Huskies are trying to tell us that they spend , on average, $80k a year , per athlete? What, are they flying the X-C team , first class, to New Zealand, for a race?

They are cutting $10M from the athletic department. They are cutting 4 teams as well as taking "other cost-cutting measures". Cutting teams is the headline, but the other cuts may be where most of the $10M in savings comes from.

"other cost cutting measures".....like getting rid of the losing football team. Had no idea the re-hired Randy Edsell.

Does the guy know how to win, anywhere? UCONN football is a waste of money. Especially THIS coaching staff.

but, either way, UCONN doesn't have a mens lacrosse team, so don't know why I am even discussing them.

Do you know why you do anything?

A quote from that scumbag Patton, who charged his own US Army troops........why do you love Patton so much? he got his in the end, didn't he. Tried to mess with the oligarchies plans...........Patton was to stupid. Did Patton ever pull the trigger of the pearl handled handguns?

Ivory handled. I am a scholar of Patton. I despise the man but, I love the quote!

Not surprised, it's a stupid quote. Because, anything from rock bottom, with NO where to go BUT up, is success? As a Hopkins fan, you should know this!

Patton would have done well in the private, for profit charter school narrative.

edit: apologize for getting NON-lacrosse on this thread/section. Although, this is very "topical" ....

......can't find my chamfer bit to finish off the new TACH install on the center console........is it too early to "recreate" ? Never a good idea with power tools....

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[FMUBart]

Covid-19 is definitely not "just the flu"; however, for 90+% of us it is just a virus. Further, many that have the virus have no idea they have it, while others get walloped?? How easily this virus spreads is the crazy/scary thing. You'd have to be blind to think that the media isn't using this virus to bury Trump...the fact that it appears to be working will only accelerate the hyperbole. Ok, now back to your regularly schedule programming!!

[MDlaxfan76]

Covid-19 is definitely not "just the flu"; however, for 90+% of us it is just a virus. Further, many that have the virus have no idea they have it, while others get walloped?? How easily this virus spreads is the crazy/scary thing. You'd have to be blind to think that the media isn't using this virus to bury Trump...the fact that it appears to be working will only accelerate the hyperbole. Ok, now back to your regularly schedule programming!!

hmmm, might it have anything to do with 125k+ dead already in the US, and it ain't over?
Trump made this about himself, rather than public health, and then went all-in for economic rebound, ignoring the scientists.
That's on him, good or bad. He made an enormous political bet, and, so far looks like its backfiring. But it's not over until the fat lady sings (or dies) so who knows.

If we care about how this all impacts sports like ours, I had an interesting conversation with my 26 year old who is in the education business.

His close buddy is a young D3 college coach, potentially looking to move gigs. I asked my son whether the COVID issue was going to be a big issue for the schools' lax programs and his response was basically: 1) many small schools may not survive the next decade at all, given the dynamics of the business, technology and business model advances; however, 2) lax is seen as a revenue booster for resident students, not the other way around. Full pay families with better than average academic backgrounds are a very attractive demographic.

But there's indeed a question as to how many of these schools survive at all.

[FMUBart]

Covid-19 is definitely not "just the flu"; however, for 90+% of us it is just a virus. Further, many that have the virus have no idea they have it, while others get walloped?? How easily this virus spreads is the crazy/scary thing. You'd have to be blind to think that the media isn't using this virus to bury Trump...the fact that it appears to be working will only accelerate the hyperbole. Ok, now back to your regularly schedule programming!!

hmmm, might it have anything to do with 125k+ dead already in the US, and it ain't over?
Trump made this about himself, rather than public health, and then went all-in for economic rebound, ignoring the scientists.
That's on him, good or bad. He made an enormous political bet, and, so far looks like its backfiring. But it's not over until the fat lady sings (or dies) so who knows.

If we care about how this all impacts sports like ours, I had an interesting conversation with my 26 year old who is in the education business.

His close buddy is a young D3 college coach, potentially looking to move gigs. I asked my son whether the COVID issue was going to be a big issue for the schools' lax programs and his response was basically: 1) many small schools may not survive the next decade at all, given the dynamics of the business, technology and business model advances; however, 2) lax is seen as a revenue booster for resident students, not the other way around. Full pay families with better than average academic backgrounds are a very attractive demographic.

But there's indeed a question as to how many of these schools survive at all.

Thousands, mostly elderly and at-risk, die from the flu annually, too--especially in bad flu years, yet we don't have the death counts scrolling on TV! Ditto for car accidents. Trump is a nutjob, but hard to argue against the fact that he has been sabotaged from day 1... Sweden said that the spread is inevitable(as we are now witnessing) after lockdowns end. Their theory was the lockdowns simple delay the inevitable and why bury their economy? Can't help but feel sorry for the elderly and other at-risk individuals, but Trump is right when he speaks to depression/suicide, not to mention economic catastrophe when the economy is shuttered....

[oldbartman]

Covid-19 is definitely not "just the flu"; however, for 90+% of us it is just a virus. Further, many that have the virus have no idea they have it, while others get walloped?? How easily this virus spreads is the crazy/scary thing. You'd have to be blind to think that the media isn't using this virus to bury Trump...the fact that it appears to be working will only accelerate the hyperbole. Ok, now back to your regularly schedule programming!!

hmmm, might it have anything to do with 125k+ dead already in the US, and it ain't over?
Trump made this about himself, rather than public health, and then went all-in for economic rebound, ignoring the scientists.
That's on him, good or bad. He made an enormous political bet, and, so far looks like its backfiring. But it's not over until the fat lady sings (or dies) so who knows.

If we care about how this all impacts sports like ours, I had an interesting conversation with my 26 year old who is in the education business.

His close buddy is a young D3 college coach, potentially looking to move gigs. I asked my son whether the COVID issue was going to be a big issue for the schools' lax programs and his response was basically: 1) many small schools may not survive the next decade at all, given the dynamics of the business, technology and business model advances; however, 2) lax is seen as a revenue booster for resident students, not the other way around. Full pay families with better than average academic backgrounds are a very attractive demographic.

But there's indeed a question as to how many of these schools survive at all.

Thousands, mostly elderly and at-risk, die from the flu annually, too--especially in bad flu years, yet we don't have the death counts scrolling on TV! Ditto for car accidents. Trump is a nutjob, but hard to argue against the fact that he has been sabotaged from day 1... Sweden said that the spread is inevitable(as we are now witnessing) after lockdowns end. Their theory was the lockdowns simple delay the inevitable and why bury their economy? Can't help but feel sorry for the elderly and other at-risk individuals, but Trump is right when he speaks to depression/suicide, not to mention economic catastrophe when the economy is shuttered....

Please take this to the politics thread. We already have enough arguing going on in this thread.Thanks

[MDlaxfan76]

Covid-19 is definitely not "just the flu"; however, for 90+% of us it is just a virus. Further, many that have the virus have no idea they have it, while others get walloped?? How easily this virus spreads is the crazy/scary thing. You'd have to be blind to think that the media isn't using this virus to bury Trump...the fact that it appears to be working will only accelerate the hyperbole. Ok, now back to your regularly schedule programming!!

hmmm, might it have anything to do with 125k+ dead already in the US, and it ain't over?
Trump made this about himself, rather than public health, and then went all-in for economic rebound, ignoring the scientists.
That's on him, good or bad. He made an enormous political bet, and, so far looks like its backfiring. But it's not over until the fat lady sings (or dies) so who knows.

If we care about how this all impacts sports like ours, I had an interesting conversation with my 26 year old who is in the education business.

His close buddy is a young D3 college coach, potentially looking to move gigs. I asked my son whether the COVID issue was going to be a big issue for the schools' lax programs and his response was basically: 1) many small schools may not survive the next decade at all, given the dynamics of the business, technology and business model advances; however, 2) lax is seen as a revenue booster for resident students, not the other way around. Full pay families with better than average academic backgrounds are a very attractive demographic.

But there's indeed a question as to how many of these schools survive at all.

Thousands, mostly elderly and at-risk, die from the flu annually, too--especially in bad flu years, yet we don't have the death counts scrolling on TV! Ditto for car accidents. Trump is a nutjob, but hard to argue against the fact that he has been sabotaged from day 1... Sweden said that the spread is inevitable(as we are now witnessing) after lockdowns end. Their theory was the lockdowns simple delay the inevitable and why bury their economy? Can't help but feel sorry for the elderly and other at-risk individuals, but Trump is right when he speaks to depression/suicide, not to mention economic catastrophe when the economy is shuttered....

Please take this to the politics thread. We already have enough arguing going on in this thread.Thanks

Sorry, tried to re-direct it back to the relevant topic, but to no avail.
"thousands"... ahh well.

Let's talk reality, gonna be a challenge to get much in the way of sports accomplished this coming year in college, but I think lax weathers it better than some sports for the reasons above. Bigger issue may be the financial viability, at all, of some smaller, less elite schools.

[FMUBart]

Covid-19 is definitely not "just the flu"; however, for 90+% of us it is just a virus. Further, many that have the virus have no idea they have it, while others get walloped?? How easily this virus spreads is the crazy/scary thing. You'd have to be blind to think that the media isn't using this virus to bury Trump...the fact that it appears to be working will only accelerate the hyperbole. Ok, now back to your regularly schedule programming!!

hmmm, might it have anything to do with 125k+ dead already in the US, and it ain't over?
Trump made this about himself, rather than public health, and then went all-in for economic rebound, ignoring the scientists.
That's on him, good or bad. He made an enormous political bet, and, so far looks like its backfiring. But it's not over until the fat lady sings (or dies) so who knows.

If we care about how this all impacts sports like ours, I had an interesting conversation with my 26 year old who is in the education business.

His close buddy is a young D3 college coach, potentially looking to move gigs. I asked my son whether the COVID issue was going to be a big issue for the schools' lax programs and his response was basically: 1) many small schools may not survive the next decade at all, given the dynamics of the business, technology and business model advances; however, 2) lax is seen as a revenue booster for resident students, not the other way around. Full pay families with better than average academic backgrounds are a very attractive demographic.

But there's indeed a question as to how many of these schools survive at all.

Thousands, mostly elderly and at-risk, die from the flu annually, too--especially in bad flu years, yet we don't have the death counts scrolling on TV! Ditto for car accidents. Trump is a nutjob, but hard to argue against the fact that he has been sabotaged from day 1... Sweden said that the spread is inevitable(as we are now witnessing) after lockdowns end. Their theory was the lockdowns simple delay the inevitable and why bury their economy? Can't help but feel sorry for the elderly and other at-risk individuals, but Trump is right when he speaks to depression/suicide, not to mention economic catastrophe when the economy is shuttered....

Please take this to the politics thread. We already have enough arguing going on in this thread.Thanks

Whatever you say, oldbartman, cuz there's sure plenty of lax to talk about Didn't know you were obliged to read and comment on every post?!
Maybe we should continue the conjecture about the transfer pool? And yes, 29k to 59K have die from the flu annually...

[viper]

Covid-19 is definitely not "just the flu"; however, for 90+% of us it is just a virus. Further, many that have the virus have no idea they have it, while others get walloped?? How easily this virus spreads is the crazy/scary thing. You'd have to be blind to think that the media isn't using this virus to bury Trump...the fact that it appears to be working will only accelerate the hyperbole. Ok, now back to your regularly schedule programming!!

hmmm, might it have anything to do with 125k+ dead already in the US, and it ain't over?
Trump made this about himself, rather than public health, and then went all-in for economic rebound, ignoring the scientists.
That's on him, good or bad. He made an enormous political bet, and, so far looks like its backfiring. But it's not over until the fat lady sings (or dies) so who knows.

If we care about how this all impacts sports like ours, I had an interesting conversation with my 26 year old who is in the education business.

His close buddy is a young D3 college coach, potentially looking to move gigs. I asked my son whether the COVID issue was going to be a big issue for the schools' lax programs and his response was basically: 1) many small schools may not survive the next decade at all, given the dynamics of the business, technology and business model advances; however, 2) lax is seen as a revenue booster for resident students, not the other way around. Full pay families with better than average academic backgrounds are a very attractive demographic.

But there's indeed a question as to how many of these schools survive at all.

Thousands, mostly elderly and at-risk, die from the flu annually, too--especially in bad flu years, yet we don't have the death counts scrolling on TV! Ditto for car accidents. Trump is a nutjob, but hard to argue against the fact that he has been sabotaged from day 1... Sweden said that the spread is inevitable(as we are now witnessing) after lockdowns end. Their theory was the lockdowns simple delay the inevitable and why bury their economy? Can't help but feel sorry for the elderly and other at-risk individuals, but Trump is right when he speaks to depression/suicide, not to mention economic catastrophe when the economy is shuttered....

The Greatest Generation sacrificed for the world and ultimately us so that we could have what we have today and enjoy little things like sports and lacrosse. Now you want to pay them back by just accepting the "cuddle the herd" mentality.

I miss lacrosse as much as anyone, but when I think of those who lived through the 15 years of Depression and WWII, I think a year or two of sacrifice is not too big a price to pay for them.

[FMUBart]

Covid-19 is definitely not "just the flu"; however, for 90+% of us it is just a virus. Further, many that have the virus have no idea they have it, while others get walloped?? How easily this virus spreads is the crazy/scary thing. You'd have to be blind to think that the media isn't using this virus to bury Trump...the fact that it appears to be working will only accelerate the hyperbole. Ok, now back to your regularly schedule programming!!

hmmm, might it have anything to do with 125k+ dead already in the US, and it ain't over?
Trump made this about himself, rather than public health, and then went all-in for economic rebound, ignoring the scientists.
That's on him, good or bad. He made an enormous political bet, and, so far looks like its backfiring. But it's not over until the fat lady sings (or dies) so who knows.

If we care about how this all impacts sports like ours, I had an interesting conversation with my 26 year old who is in the education business.

His close buddy is a young D3 college coach, potentially looking to move gigs. I asked my son whether the COVID issue was going to be a big issue for the schools' lax programs and his response was basically: 1) many small schools may not survive the next decade at all, given the dynamics of the business, technology and business model advances; however, 2) lax is seen as a revenue booster for resident students, not the other way around. Full pay families with better than average academic backgrounds are a very attractive demographic.

But there's indeed a question as to how many of these schools survive at all.

Thousands, mostly elderly and at-risk, die from the flu annually, too--especially in bad flu years, yet we don't have the death counts scrolling on TV! Ditto for car accidents. Trump is a nutjob, but hard to argue against the fact that he has been sabotaged from day 1... Sweden said that the spread is inevitable(as we are now witnessing) after lockdowns end. Their theory was the lockdowns simple delay the inevitable and why bury their economy? Can't help but feel sorry for the elderly and other at-risk individuals, but Trump is right when he speaks to depression/suicide, not to mention economic catastrophe when the economy is shuttered....

The Greatest Generation sacrificed for the world and ultimately us so that we could have what we have today and enjoy little things like sports and lacrosse. Now you want to pay them back by just accepting the "cuddle the herd" mentality.

I miss lacrosse as much as anyone, but when I think of those who lived through the 15 years of Depression and WWII, I think a year or two of sacrifice is not too big a price to pay for them.

[Farfromgeneva]

So it may not be great to name names and I know someone had this viability score from Forbes earlier but who do folks who have much or any information and not be biased to deny reality with respect to their favored institution Might put on a short list. I’m biased, know Hobart is tuition dependent but suspect lacrosse goes down with the ship there.

I would suggest given some larger state schools are paring sports that the ACC and Big Ten aren’t totally immune though I’m sure folks will look straight at the MAAC, NEV, SoCon and then maybe the AE/CAA first.

Bellarmine and Jax do seem like high risk.

Cleveland St, SBU could easily close up shop and no one would notice. Hampton unfortunately.

Drexel? I know other philly schools have to tighten their belts.

MSM, SHU or Wagner? The latter two don’t exactly have a long history or tradition to hold onto.

Probably some MAAC school, Siena?

Mostly just tossing names where I wouldn’t be shocked.

[bauer4429]

I think lacrosse is the only D1 sport at Hobart so I think you may be right. With the way D3 colleges are cancelling athletics it could easily be forced given its athletics are D3 with the lacrosse exception. I could picture Wagner and a number in the MAAC closing up shop with the exception of Marist, Detroit Mercy and Canisius who usually have somewhat decent teams. Maybe the crisis will force more parity into the leagues and give more top contenders in the Big 10, ACC, and Ivy more opportunity to make it into the playoffs.

[Farfromgeneva]

Hobart is more than just one of less than ten schools grandfathered into D1 sports, it sits in the Indian reservation historical home (Finger Lakes, Seneca, Onondaga, Cayuga, Keyes, etc), they WERE division 3 before moving up having won the first 12 titles in D3 history through the entire decade of the 1980s, have had a 100yr old rivalry with Cornell and Syracuse inclduing a trophy game and what Roy Simmons used to describe as the N.Y. State championship (given Hop claims titles from playing YMCA programs in the pre world war 1 era perfectly appropriate). NY Times wrote stories including one about a nice game in 1986 where the bad guys in D1 with that ugly dome got taken down by us. We had a tribal leader lead a discussion on the creators game last homecoming weekend. Hobart will never drop lacrosse, I was being understated in my prior comment with lacrosse going down with the ship. It’s the reason it’s name is known across the US for better or worse. Very few other schools have the same relationship to lacrosse across all levels as Hobart does.

Dropping a sport will be where it’s not a priority-Furman, Presbyterian, Butler. That’s why I threw out schools that don’t have a strong relationship or history to the sport and/or didn’t need the perceived demographic gains (which I wonder about the true value anyway, if jax is just pulling middle class blue collar kids from LI or CNY who aren’t full tuition payers does it matter?).

Should check out some of the HC and significant ACs who went to Hobart - Tambroni, Frank fedorjaka, Tony Gravante, both Van Arsdales (Both have been HCs, Marc borderline ran uVA the last decade), probably some others in spacing on but also including Matt Kerwick who was HC at Bart, Jax and Cornell and don’t forget Dave Urick was the coach there (Cortland grad) until he built the dormant Georgetown program into something to notice in the 1990s and 2000s.

[cuseman4133]

So it may not be great to name names and I know someone had this viability score from Forbes earlier but who do folks who have much or any information and not be biased to deny reality with respect to their favored institution Might put on a short list. I’m biased, know Hobart is tuition dependent but suspect lacrosse goes down with the ship there.

I would suggest given some larger state schools are paring sports that the ACC and Big Ten aren’t totally immune though I’m sure folks will look straight at the MAAC, NEC, SoCon and then maybe the AE/CAA first.

Bellarmine and Jax do seem like high risk.

Cleveland St, SBU could easily close up shop and no one would notice. Hampton unfortunately.

Drexel? I know other philly schools have to tighten their belts.

MSM, SHU or Wagner? The latter two don’t exactly have a long history or tradition to hold onto.

Probably some MAAC school, Siena?

Mostly just tossing names where I wouldn’t be shocked.

Would look at Villanova as well, one of the smallest rosters in the country at D1.

[Farfromgeneva]

I wondered if Nova would pull a Butler in my mind but didn’t go there. Title IX May also be a consideration but Villanova never seemed to really support Corrado (which is I guess why he’s occasionally thrown his hat in the ring for lateral move gigs in the past).

Is it crazy to think Rutgers would say bye bye? They have atrocious financial position and are only getting hit harder by Covid. I’m sure one acolyte poster who insisted for two years even after everyone explained how the at large selections work that they got screwed on LP will loudly protest the suggestion but big schools are dropping non revenue sports already.

[bauer4429]

To clarify on my last post ... I meant Hobart cancelling its fall sports as other D3 colleges have begun to do, not drop them completely. I do think some colleges may opt to drop weaker teams in weaker programs like the MAAC .... especially If their cost is too great between scholarships, travel, coaches salaries, etc.....plus some programs have large problems with drug use and colleges may be tired of those issues all together and could use this to drop problem child teams.

[Farfromgeneva]

Oh Ive unfortunately written off fall sports including football at Bart. RPI cancelled it today and that’s a conference rival (whom I hate having played FB in there). The NJAC is losing two schools already with Wesley failing and TCNJ cancelling so that knocks Rowan off our schedule. I talk to a couple of parents of current players and nothing has been said yet but it’s a done deal IMO.

Funny on drug use, I get it,but somehow it must’ve been accretive to Hobart lacrosse because it was commonly referred to the the 1980s as “Snowbart and William Sniff”. In fact a certain star player from the late 70s/early 80s who took over for Urick could speak to that quite well...