Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[MDlaxfan76]

You knew this was coming (and it will happen, just a matter of time) the day Kap took a knee, said it at the time.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/why ... 41108.html

Interesting.

[Peter Brown]

You knew this was coming (and it will happen, just a matter of time) the day Kap took a knee, said it at the time.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/why ... 41108.html

Interesting.

Interesting or pathetic that people are so weak as to compromise with the Left when they keep telling you who they are and what they are after? And you think paying extortion demands with a new national anthem will solve their needs...

[Matnum PI]

Francis Scott Key was a slave-owner who said racist things. It's a tough pill to swallow that we'd shelve these people due to our better awareness of and sensitivity to racism in america and... maybe that's the pill we need to swallow. That is interesting. (Though i don't love the new song selection.)

[MDlaxfan76]

You knew this was coming (and it will happen, just a matter of time) the day Kap took a knee, said it at the time.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/why ... 41108.html

Interesting.

Interesting or pathetic that people are so weak as to compromise with the Left when they keep telling you who they are and what they are after? And you think paying extortion demands with a new national anthem will solve their needs...

no, interesting because there's quite a lot of history of which so few of us are even aware.
I find that interesting, don't you?

does that history matter?
Well, maybe it should if we're going to get all exercised about needing to stand at attention, take off our hat and put our hand over our hearts when we sing a national anthem...something I've done all my life.

I'm a Baltimorean, so there's local pride in that anthem having been written here, so I do find the full history to be quite unsettling...I didn't even know about that third stanza, did you?

[MDlaxfan76]

Francis Scott Key was a slave-owner who said racist things. It's a tough pill to swallow that we'd shelve these people due to our better awareness of and sensitivity to racism in america and... maybe that's the pill we need to swallow. That is interesting. (Though i don't love the new song selection.)

That third stanza is a doozy.

[Peter Brown]

You knew this was coming (and it will happen, just a matter of time) the day Kap took a knee, said it at the time.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/why ... 41108.html

Interesting.

Interesting or pathetic that people are so weak as to compromise with the Left when they keep telling you who they are and what they are after? And you think paying extortion demands with a new national anthem will solve their needs...

no, interesting because there's quite a lot of history of which so few of us are even aware.
I find that interesting, don't you?

does that history matter?
Well, maybe it should if we're going to get all exercised about needing to stand at attention, take off our hat and put our hand over our hearts when we sing a national anthem...something I've done all my life.

I'm a Baltimorean, so there's local pride in that anthem having been written here, so I do find the full history to be quite unsettling...I didn't even know about that third stanza, did you?

Didn't and don't care.

Proud of America, warts and all.

I have often remarked that most 4th of July events are now just Republicans celebrating America; that trend will get more true every year going forward. Democrats will shame you if you celebrate America. The Democratic Party is the leftist mob now, and Joe is the last normal leader who will see the nomination. Eliot Engel just lost in NY to an avowed socialist. Interesting you can't (won't?) see these things happening under your feet.

They're coming for your flag soon, MD, and please recall, it was you who said it would end with Confederate statues. You're a smart guy with low awareness, or a smart guy playing a part. One or the other.

[RedFromMI]

Francis Scott Key was a slave-owner who said racist things. It's a tough pill to swallow that we'd shelve these people due to our better awareness of and sensitivity to racism in america and... maybe that's the pill we need to swallow. That is interesting. (Though i don't love the new song selection.)

That third stanza is a doozy.

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/13/mo ... th-racism/

[runrussellrun]

Francis Scott Key was a slave-owner who said racist things. It's a tough pill to swallow that we'd shelve these people due to our better awareness of and sensitivity to racism in america and... maybe that's the pill we need to swallow. That is interesting. (Though i don't love the new song selection.)

That third stanza is a doozy.

You are showing how ignorant you are. Even about your own backyard and it's event's. The people that lived in your area.

You suddenly learning of the other stanzas........why does it matter if it's a doozy? Words don't matter.

"why is chelsea clinton so ugly/\?".....you voted and continue to support THAT.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Francis Scott Key was a slave-owner who said racist things. It's a tough pill to swallow that we'd shelve these people due to our better awareness of and sensitivity to racism in america and... maybe that's the pill we need to swallow. That is interesting. (Though i don't love the new song selection.)

I don’t understand why we sing the national anthem at domestic sports competitions. International competitions, I understand but domestic? It makes no sense. I don’t have a problem with the Star Spangled Banner as our National Anthem. I don’t believe it came about as a reminder or a symbol of what could have been by confederate losers and those sympathetic to the southern cause. As for slave owners, no skin off my back one way or the other. I would rather not replace those institutions based on “he owned slaves” alone...... BTW, Christopher Columbus wasn’t “American” and he was a bad guy contemporaneously. If he is being honored for “discovering” America, we all know that’s just not true.

[Peter Brown]

Francis Scott Key was a slave-owner who said racist things. It's a tough pill to swallow that we'd shelve these people due to our better awareness of and sensitivity to racism in america and... maybe that's the pill we need to swallow. That is interesting. (Though i don't love the new song selection.)

That third stanza is a doozy.

You are showing how ignorant you are. Even about your own backyard and it's event's. The people that lived in your area.

You suddenly learning of the other stanzas........why does it matter if it's a doozy? Words don't matter.

"why is chelsea clinton so ugly/\?".....you voted and continue to support THAT.

RRR with the kill shot.

I think MD forgot how low MCCain would go...convenient of him

[Peter Brown]

Francis Scott Key was a slave-owner who said racist things. It's a tough pill to swallow that we'd shelve these people due to our better awareness of and sensitivity to racism in america and... maybe that's the pill we need to swallow. That is interesting. (Though i don't love the new song selection.)

I don’t understand why we sing the national anthem at domestic sports competitions. International competitions, I understand but domestic? It makes no sense. I don’t have a problem with the Star Spangled Banner as our National Anthem. I don’t believe it came about as a reminder or a symbol of what could have been by confederate losers and those sympathetic to the southern cause. As for slave owners, no skin off my back one way or the other. I would rather not replace those institutions based on “he owned slaves” alone...... BTW, Christopher Columbus wasn’t “American” and he was a bad guy contemporaneously. If he is being honored for “discovering” America, we all know that’s just not true.

The weak left's entire thought process can be boiled down to this: kill me last, please.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Francis Scott Key was a slave-owner who said racist things. It's a tough pill to swallow that we'd shelve these people due to our better awareness of and sensitivity to racism in america and... maybe that's the pill we need to swallow. That is interesting. (Though i don't love the new song selection.)

That third stanza is a doozy.

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/13/mo ... th-racism/

Thanks. I am going to read that.

[DMac]

Uncle Sam will be gone next, fellas. Can't have the face of the guy who said, I Want You, when it meant I want want you for our segregated army.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Francis Scott Key was a slave-owner who said racist things. It's a tough pill to swallow that we'd shelve these people due to our better awareness of and sensitivity to racism in america and... maybe that's the pill we need to swallow. That is interesting. (Though i don't love the new song selection.)

I don’t understand why we sing the national anthem at domestic sports competitions. International competitions, I understand but domestic? It makes no sense. I don’t have a problem with the Star Spangled Banner as our National Anthem. I don’t believe it came about as a reminder or a symbol of what could have been by confederate losers and those sympathetic to the southern cause. As for slave owners, no skin off my back one way or the other. I would rather not replace those institutions based on “he owned slaves” alone...... BTW, Christopher Columbus wasn’t “American” and he was a bad guy contemporaneously. If he is being honored for “discovering” America, we all know that’s just not true.

The weak left's entire thought process can be boiled down to this: kill me last, please.

Where is bablu?

[Peter Brown]

Francis Scott Key was a slave-owner who said racist things. It's a tough pill to swallow that we'd shelve these people due to our better awareness of and sensitivity to racism in america and... maybe that's the pill we need to swallow. That is interesting. (Though i don't love the new song selection.)

I don’t understand why we sing the national anthem at domestic sports competitions. International competitions, I understand but domestic? It makes no sense. I don’t have a problem with the Star Spangled Banner as our National Anthem. I don’t believe it came about as a reminder or a symbol of what could have been by confederate losers and those sympathetic to the southern cause. As for slave owners, no skin off my back one way or the other. I would rather not replace those institutions based on “he owned slaves” alone...... BTW, Christopher Columbus wasn’t “American” and he was a bad guy contemporaneously. If he is being honored for “discovering” America, we all know that’s just not true.

The weak left's entire thought process can be boiled down to this: kill me last, please.

Where is bablu?

In some of the Left's cases, its more kill me last, pretty please

[Matnum PI]

In fact “The Star-Spangled Banner,” based on a poem Key wrote about his eyewitness account of the War of 1812, originally featured a little-heard third stanza that was blatantly racist: “No refuge could save the hireling and slave/From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave/And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave/O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.” While that version of the song is rarely performed today, Powell has been aware of it for years, and, like Morales, has therefore refused to sing the anthem since he was in high school in the 1980s, when he first learned of its history.

[MDlaxfan76]

You knew this was coming (and it will happen, just a matter of time) the day Kap took a knee, said it at the time.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/why ... 41108.html

Interesting.

Interesting or pathetic that people are so weak as to compromise with the Left when they keep telling you who they are and what they are after? And you think paying extortion demands with a new national anthem will solve their needs...

no, interesting because there's quite a lot of history of which so few of us are even aware.
I find that interesting, don't you?

does that history matter?
Well, maybe it should if we're going to get all exercised about needing to stand at attention, take off our hat and put our hand over our hearts when we sing a national anthem...something I've done all my life.

I'm a Baltimorean, so there's local pride in that anthem having been written here, so I do find the full history to be quite unsettling...I didn't even know about that third stanza, did you?

Didn't and don't care.

Proud of America, warts and all.

I have often remarked that most 4th of July events are now just Republicans celebrating America; that trend will get more true every year going forward. Democrats will shame you if you celebrate America. The Democratic Party is the leftist mob now, and Joe is the last normal leader who will see the nomination. Eliot Engel just lost in NY to an avowed socialist. Interesting you can't (won't?) see these things happening under your feet.

They're coming for your flag soon, MD, and please recall, it was you who said it would end with Confederate statues. You're a smart guy with low awareness, or a smart guy playing a part. One or the other.

No, I said that we should have a clear rationale for what statues and other forms of veneration actually express the values of America going forward and which most definitely do not.

The Confederate statues put up to intimidate blacks should be a super easy answer. And time's up for them. No more dilly dallying.

When we go beyond, we start getting into thornier questions. I want the debate, the clear articulation of the rationale for removing a statue, changing a song, changing a building's name, etc before that action is taken, not mob action.

But it took the 'mob' to force these issues into the open. And that mob's protest is now supported by 75-80% of Americans.
Right now, I'd like all sorts of re-examination and discussion of our history...and that's happening.

I don't want the 'mob' to overreach and lose the important support for it's core protest.

[Typical Lax Dad]

You knew this was coming (and it will happen, just a matter of time) the day Kap took a knee, said it at the time.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/why ... 41108.html

Interesting.

Interesting or pathetic that people are so weak as to compromise with the Left when they keep telling you who they are and what they are after? And you think paying extortion demands with a new national anthem will solve their needs...

no, interesting because there's quite a lot of history of which so few of us are even aware.
I find that interesting, don't you?

does that history matter?
Well, maybe it should if we're going to get all exercised about needing to stand at attention, take off our hat and put our hand over our hearts when we sing a national anthem...something I've done all my life.

I'm a Baltimorean, so there's local pride in that anthem having been written here, so I do find the full history to be quite unsettling...I didn't even know about that third stanza, did you?

Didn't and don't care.

Proud of America, warts and all.

I have often remarked that most 4th of July events are now just Republicans celebrating America; that trend will get more true every year going forward. Democrats will shame you if you celebrate America. The Democratic Party is the leftist mob now, and Joe is the last normal leader who will see the nomination. Eliot Engel just lost in NY to an avowed socialist. Interesting you can't (won't?) see these things happening under your feet.

They're coming for your flag soon, MD, and please recall, it was you who said it would end with Confederate statues. You're a smart guy with low awareness, or a smart guy playing a part. One or the other.

No, I said that we should have a clear rationale for what statues and other forms of veneration actually express the values of America going forward and which most definitely do not.

The Confederate statues put up to intimidate blacks should be a super easy answer. And time's up for them. No more dilly dallying.

When we go beyond, we start getting into thornier questions. I want the debate, the clear articulation of the rationale for removing a statue, changing a song, changing a building's name, etc before that action is taken, not mob action.

But it took the 'mob' to force these issues into the open. And that mob's protest is now supported by 75-80% of Americans.
Right now, I'd like all sorts of re-examination and discussion of our history...and that's happening.

I don't want the 'mob' to overreach and lose the important support for it's core protest.

+1

[Matnum PI]

But it took the 'mob' to force these issues into the open. And that mob's protest is now supported by 75-80% of Americans.
Right now, I'd like all sorts of re-examination and discussion of our history...and that's happening.

And, of that remaining 20-25%, how many of them will be dead within the next 10-20 years. I'd guess 75-80%. America is moving on...

[runrussellrun]

Something about a naughty weathervane on top of a Hanover, New Hampshire building. Some, must have walked by it hundreds of times. Said nothing. Did nothing.