All things Chinese CoronaVirus

[MDlaxfan76]

That means the ICU would be at around 75% "full" without v-19 ?

Hospitals, like prisons, weren't designed to be empty, btw.

Correct, which is why the possibility of exponential growth of C19 cases is so dangerous, and why mitigation efforts like masks and social distancing are so important.

Masks do two things: perpetuate fear and accustom the people to obedience. Masks simply prolong the agony of a virus. .

Humans are built to develop herd immunity which can’t develop rapidly if people shelter and mask up.

What a clown car the left has become. I’d rather they loot stores and break statues than control health policy.

The stupidity of this post is almost -- almost -- hard to believe.

PB has shown us daily this sort of idiocy, all in the name of Trumpism.

When people say 'it can't happen here in America' you only need to look at how absolutely stupid the brown shirts, 'real Americans', for Trump are, with the truly evil 'smart' folks around him enabling Der Leader.

I’m that rare ‘Trumpist’ that only MD can find, the guy who says Joe Biden isn’t a bad cat and life for me wouldn’t change at all if he won. Oh also, I thought Obama was a great POTUS. I am some kind of Trumpist!!!

Meanwhile, in the aisle of Actual Dishonesty, we are still hunting for MD’s first ever positive post about a conservative Republican as MD says he’s a “Republican”. Could you at least say something positive about Tim Scott?

Already have.
I posted that in the resurrection of the GOP post the ignominious defeat of Trumpism, Tim Scott may well have a bright, and important future. The stain of Trumpism may be too much to overcome, but I'd want Scott to be a player in the resurrection.

And nobody believes you aren't voting for Trump again PB, nor that you ever thought Obama was a great POTUS.

[Peter Brown]

That means the ICU would be at around 75% "full" without v-19 ?

Hospitals, like prisons, weren't designed to be empty, btw.

Correct, which is why the possibility of exponential growth of C19 cases is so dangerous, and why mitigation efforts like masks and social distancing are so important.

Masks do two things: perpetuate fear and accustom the people to obedience. Masks simply prolong the agony of a virus. .

Humans are built to develop herd immunity which can’t develop rapidly if people shelter and mask up.

What a clown car the left has become. I’d rather they loot stores and break statues than control health policy.

The stupidity of this post is almost -- almost -- hard to believe.

PB has shown us daily this sort of idiocy, all in the name of Trumpism.

When people say 'it can't happen here in America' you only need to look at how absolutely stupid the brown shirts, 'real Americans', for Trump are, with the truly evil 'smart' folks around him enabling Der Leader.

I’m that rare ‘Trumpist’ that only MD can find, the guy who says Joe Biden isn’t a bad cat and life for me wouldn’t change at all if he won. Oh also, I thought Obama was a great POTUS. I am some kind of Trumpist!!!

Meanwhile, in the aisle of Actual Dishonesty, we are still hunting for MD’s first ever positive post about a conservative Republican as MD says he’s a “Republican”. Could you at least say something positive about Tim Scott?

Already have.
I posted that in the resurrection of the GOP post the ignominious defeat of Trumpism, Tim Scott may well have a bright, and important future. The stain of Trumpism may be too much to overcome, but I'd want Scott to be a player in the resurrection.

And nobody believes you aren't voting for Trump again PB, nor that you ever thought Obama was a great POTUS.

Hmmmm. So I’m telling you Obama was a great POTUS and I’m fairly sure I’ve never posted anything negative about him or his policies, but that’s not good enough? Lol.

As to whom I’m voting for, I don’t as a rule tell anyone who I will vote for when the election is still 4 months out and a VP candidate has yet to be selected. I get it that anyone with TDS doesn’t possess any moderation and thought anymore, so you’re excused from that debate.

[runrussellrun]

Florida:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1275890640505778180

https://twitter.com/search?q=Floridians&src=trend_click

https://thebulwark.com/floridas-idiocracy/

one of the things I noticed, not ONE west palm beach city councillor was wearing a mask. Yet, they made masks mandatory?
Thanks for posting the idiots that are our taats.

They are behind plexiglass. The issue is aerosolized breaths; the glass blocks it. I know you wanted to make some kind of point, and it was a good reach, but a fail. Have a good day.

Make a point? That they are complete and utter hypocrites? What happens when the city councillor gets UP, out of the chair, do they don the masks then? When walking out of the enclosed room ? You see Massachusettes (her way) Gov. ever wear a mask......ever? He still refuses to wear one.

Show leadership. Wear a mask. Why are you supporting this? It is odd.

[cradleandshoot]

That means the ICU would be at around 75% "full" without v-19 ?

Hospitals, like prisons, weren't designed to be empty, btw.

Correct, which is why the possibility of exponential growth of C19 cases is so dangerous, and why mitigation efforts like masks and social distancing are so important.

Masks do two things: perpetuate fear and accustom the people to obedience. Masks simply prolong the agony of a virus. .

Humans are built to develop herd immunity which can’t develop rapidly if people shelter and mask up.

What a clown car the left has become. I’d rather they loot stores and break statues than control health policy.

The stupidity of this post is almost -- almost -- hard to believe.

PB has shown us daily this sort of idiocy, all in the name of Trumpism.

When people say 'it can't happen here in America' you only need to look at how absolutely stupid the brown shirts, 'real Americans', for Trump are, with the truly evil 'smart' folks around him enabling Der Leader.

I’m that rare ‘Trumpist’ that only MD can find, the guy who says Joe Biden isn’t a bad cat and life for me wouldn’t change at all if he won. Oh also, I thought Obama was a great POTUS. I am some kind of Trumpist!!!

Meanwhile, in the aisle of Actual Dishonesty, we are still hunting for MD’s first ever positive post about a conservative Republican as MD says he’s a “Republican”. Could you at least say something positive about Tim Scott?

Already have.
I posted that in the resurrection of the GOP post the ignominious defeat of Trumpism, Tim Scott may well have a bright, and important future. The stain of Trumpism may be too much to overcome, but I'd want Scott to be a player in the resurrection.

And nobody believes you aren't voting for Trump again PB, nor that you ever thought Obama was a great POTUS.

Holy Molies there MD, I can't wait to read PBs reply. IMO Obama is a decent an honorable man. He is a FLP in his heart and soul. He proved that when he said he would govern and decide with his pen and his cell phone. He didn't give two chits about what the republicans wanted. He wanted what he wanted. There is nothing wrong with that, he was POTUS for 8 years. He was in charge of the vision he had for this nation. His vision was not anything I agreed with by and large. BHO is the prototypical politician. He is a magician when it comes to spinning his words. He is as nice guy and a gifted speaker as you will ever find. After he is done blowing smoke up your ass you still have to wipe the pixie dust out of your eyes and realize who he really is. He has his own vision for what he wants America to be. If you disagree... well he had his phone and his pen to do what he wanted to do all along.

[cradleandshoot]

That means the ICU would be at around 75% "full" without v-19 ?

Hospitals, like prisons, weren't designed to be empty, btw.

Correct, which is why the possibility of exponential growth of C19 cases is so dangerous, and why mitigation efforts like masks and social distancing are so important.

Masks do two things: perpetuate fear and accustom the people to obedience. Masks simply prolong the agony of a virus. .

Humans are built to develop herd immunity which can’t develop rapidly if people shelter and mask up.

What a clown car the left has become. I’d rather they loot stores and break statues than control health policy.

The stupidity of this post is almost -- almost -- hard to believe.

PB has shown us daily this sort of idiocy, all in the name of Trumpism.

When people say 'it can't happen here in America' you only need to look at how absolutely stupid the brown shirts, 'real Americans', for Trump are, with the truly evil 'smart' folks around him enabling Der Leader.

I’m that rare ‘Trumpist’ that only MD can find, the guy who says Joe Biden isn’t a bad cat and life for me wouldn’t change at all if he won. Oh also, I thought Obama was a great POTUS. I am some kind of Trumpist!!!

Meanwhile, in the aisle of Actual Dishonesty, we are still hunting for MD’s first ever positive post about a conservative Republican as MD says he’s a “Republican”. Could you at least say something positive about Tim Scott?

Already have.
I posted that in the resurrection of the GOP post the ignominious defeat of Trumpism, Tim Scott may well have a bright, and important future. The stain of Trumpism may be too much to overcome, but I'd want Scott to be a player in the resurrection.

And nobody believes you aren't voting for Trump again PB, nor that you ever thought Obama was a great POTUS.

On a side note MD, I think Tim Scott has a bright future in the Republican party. I don't think that even a FLP moderate republican such as yourself could find very many faults with his ideology.

[CU88]

What the F is wrong with Florida?

On Wednesday, Palm Beach County held a public hearing. Its purpose: with the number of coronavirus cases spiking in Florida, the county commission wanted to hold a vote on mandating the use of masks in public (as Broward and Miami-Dade counties have). The vote came after a two-hour public hearing, during which angry opponents held up Trump signs, threatened the county board with citizens’ arrests, invoked the wrath of God, and held a festival of crazy.

https://thebulwark.com/floridas-idiocracy/

Watch and listen to this Floridian!

https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1 ... 5927741446

Wow, just WOW

[runrussellrun]

What the F is wrong with Florida?

On Wednesday, Palm Beach County held a public hearing. Its purpose: with the number of coronavirus cases spiking in Florida, the county commission wanted to hold a vote on mandating the use of masks in public (as Broward and Miami-Dade counties have). The vote came after a two-hour public hearing, during which angry opponents held up Trump signs, threatened the county board with citizens’ arrests, invoked the wrath of God, and held a festival of crazy.

https://thebulwark.com/floridas-idiocracy/

Watch and listen to this Floridian!

https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1 ... 5927741446

Wow, just WOW

It should be standard practice, that when hitting a thread, you go back a few pages to read prior posts. this is yesterdays news.

I will ask you. If you are voting to make face masks mandatory, shouldn't YOU, yourself, be wearing a face mask?

[runrussellrun]

That means the ICU would be at around 75% "full" without v-19 ?

Hospitals, like prisons, weren't designed to be empty, btw.

Correct, which is why the possibility of exponential growth of C19 cases is so dangerous, and why mitigation efforts like masks and social distancing are so important.

The "reporting" agency, TMC (Texas Medical Center), is JUST reporting their hospital chain is allegadedly reaching FULL. btw, does it matter that TMC recently got nailed with medicare fraud? Your story is fear porn.

Do hospitals gain, financially, when listing a patient as "covid" ?

exactly

[MDlaxfan76]

That means the ICU would be at around 75% "full" without v-19 ?

Hospitals, like prisons, weren't designed to be empty, btw.

Correct, which is why the possibility of exponential growth of C19 cases is so dangerous, and why mitigation efforts like masks and social distancing are so important.

Masks do two things: perpetuate fear and accustom the people to obedience. Masks simply prolong the agony of a virus. .

Humans are built to develop herd immunity which can’t develop rapidly if people shelter and mask up.

What a clown car the left has become. I’d rather they loot stores and break statues than control health policy.

The stupidity of this post is almost -- almost -- hard to believe.

PB has shown us daily this sort of idiocy, all in the name of Trumpism.

When people say 'it can't happen here in America' you only need to look at how absolutely stupid the brown shirts, 'real Americans', for Trump are, with the truly evil 'smart' folks around him enabling Der Leader.

I’m that rare ‘Trumpist’ that only MD can find, the guy who says Joe Biden isn’t a bad cat and life for me wouldn’t change at all if he won. Oh also, I thought Obama was a great POTUS. I am some kind of Trumpist!!!

Meanwhile, in the aisle of Actual Dishonesty, we are still hunting for MD’s first ever positive post about a conservative Republican as MD says he’s a “Republican”. Could you at least say something positive about Tim Scott?

Already have.
I posted that in the resurrection of the GOP post the ignominious defeat of Trumpism, Tim Scott may well have a bright, and important future. The stain of Trumpism may be too much to overcome, but I'd want Scott to be a player in the resurrection.

And nobody believes you aren't voting for Trump again PB, nor that you ever thought Obama was a great POTUS.

Holy Molies there MD, I can't wait to read PBs reply. IMO Obama is a decent an honorable man. He is a FLP in his heart and soul. He proved that when he said he would govern and decide with his pen and his cell phone. He didn't give two chits about what the republicans wanted. He wanted what he wanted. There is nothing wrong with that, he was POTUS for 8 years. He was in charge of the vision he had for this nation. His vision was not anything I agreed with by and large. BHO is the prototypical politician. He is a magician when it comes to spinning his words. He is as nice guy and a gifted speaker as you will ever find. After he is done blowing smoke up your ass you still have to wipe the pixie dust out of your eyes and realize who he really is. He has his own vision for what he wants America to be. If you disagree... well he had his phone and his pen to do what he wanted to do all along.

I voted for McCain and Romney. I think both would have been excellent Presidents.

But I do think Obama was about as good a President as I could ask for while disagreeing with various policies. And indeed, he may go down as a 'great POTUS' not merely a major historical turning point. Time will tell.

But absolutely no one on here believes that PB isn't voting for Trump or actually thought or thinks Obama was a great POTUS. Sadly, not a chance. PB would have been spouting birther garbage had he been on LP back in that period. Not a 'real American'.

I do believe you are sincere on your views about Obama, pro and con.

[foreverlax]

This virus is done.


The virus is weakening. The young are developing resistance. Anyone heard from Kevin Durant recently? Fear porn. Back to work.

wow....young are developing resistance.

[MDlaxfan76]

That means the ICU would be at around 75% "full" without v-19 ?

Hospitals, like prisons, weren't designed to be empty, btw.

Correct, which is why the possibility of exponential growth of C19 cases is so dangerous, and why mitigation efforts like masks and social distancing are so important.

Masks do two things: perpetuate fear and accustom the people to obedience. Masks simply prolong the agony of a virus. .

Humans are built to develop herd immunity which can’t develop rapidly if people shelter and mask up.

What a clown car the left has become. I’d rather they loot stores and break statues than control health policy.

The stupidity of this post is almost -- almost -- hard to believe.

PB has shown us daily this sort of idiocy, all in the name of Trumpism.

When people say 'it can't happen here in America' you only need to look at how absolutely stupid the brown shirts, 'real Americans', for Trump are, with the truly evil 'smart' folks around him enabling Der Leader.

I’m that rare ‘Trumpist’ that only MD can find, the guy who says Joe Biden isn’t a bad cat and life for me wouldn’t change at all if he won. Oh also, I thought Obama was a great POTUS. I am some kind of Trumpist!!!

Meanwhile, in the aisle of Actual Dishonesty, we are still hunting for MD’s first ever positive post about a conservative Republican as MD says he’s a “Republican”. Could you at least say something positive about Tim Scott?

Already have.
I posted that in the resurrection of the GOP post the ignominious defeat of Trumpism, Tim Scott may well have a bright, and important future. The stain of Trumpism may be too much to overcome, but I'd want Scott to be a player in the resurrection.

And nobody believes you aren't voting for Trump again PB, nor that you ever thought Obama was a great POTUS.

On a side note MD, I think Tim Scott has a bright future in the Republican party. I don't think that even a FLP moderate republican such as yourself could find very many faults with his ideology.

Well, I'm rooting for such an ignominious defeat in November that the GOP is forced to do a near total re-boot. If so, Tim Scott could well play an important role. But if Trumpism prevails, my hunch is that he's going to get darn uncomfortable with being pushed forward as the black GOP senator. Right now, he has a positive role to play in helping his fellow GOP members to better appreciate these issues, but if they win, expect them to regress hard.

[Kismet]

Someone please explain this graph



Looks like FAILURE to contain in one country to me.

Perhaps this is what you get when politics wins over science with some people.

Trudeau won't be opening the US-Canada border anytime soon. By DOPUS' own past actions, it would not surprise me if the EU imposes a travel ban or 14 day quarantine on those coming into Europe from here.

[Peter Brown]

That means the ICU would be at around 75% "full" without v-19 ?

Hospitals, like prisons, weren't designed to be empty, btw.

Correct, which is why the possibility of exponential growth of C19 cases is so dangerous, and why mitigation efforts like masks and social distancing are so important.

Masks do two things: perpetuate fear and accustom the people to obedience. Masks simply prolong the agony of a virus. .

Humans are built to develop herd immunity which can’t develop rapidly if people shelter and mask up.

What a clown car the left has become. I’d rather they loot stores and break statues than control health policy.

The stupidity of this post is almost -- almost -- hard to believe.

PB has shown us daily this sort of idiocy, all in the name of Trumpism.

When people say 'it can't happen here in America' you only need to look at how absolutely stupid the brown shirts, 'real Americans', for Trump are, with the truly evil 'smart' folks around him enabling Der Leader.

I’m that rare ‘Trumpist’ that only MD can find, the guy who says Joe Biden isn’t a bad cat and life for me wouldn’t change at all if he won. Oh also, I thought Obama was a great POTUS. I am some kind of Trumpist!!!

Meanwhile, in the aisle of Actual Dishonesty, we are still hunting for MD’s first ever positive post about a conservative Republican as MD says he’s a “Republican”. Could you at least say something positive about Tim Scott?

Already have.
I posted that in the resurrection of the GOP post the ignominious defeat of Trumpism, Tim Scott may well have a bright, and important future. The stain of Trumpism may be too much to overcome, but I'd want Scott to be a player in the resurrection.

And nobody believes you aren't voting for Trump again PB, nor that you ever thought Obama was a great POTUS.

Holy Molies there MD, I can't wait to read PBs reply. IMO Obama is a decent an honorable man. He is a FLP in his heart and soul. He proved that when he said he would govern and decide with his pen and his cell phone. He didn't give two chits about what the republicans wanted. He wanted what he wanted. There is nothing wrong with that, he was POTUS for 8 years. He was in charge of the vision he had for this nation. His vision was not anything I agreed with by and large. BHO is the prototypical politician. He is a magician when it comes to spinning his words. He is as nice guy and a gifted speaker as you will ever find. After he is done blowing smoke up your ass you still have to wipe the pixie dust out of your eyes and realize who he really is. He has his own vision for what he wants America to be. If you disagree... well he had his phone and his pen to do what he wanted to do all along.

I voted for McCain and Romney. I think both would have been excellent Presidents.

But I do think Obama was about as good a President as I could ask for while disagreeing with various policies. And indeed, he may go down as a 'great POTUS' not merely a major historical turning point. Time will tell.

But absolutely no one on here believes that PB isn't voting for Trump or actually thought or thinks Obama was a great POTUS. Sadly, not a chance. PB would have been spouting birther garbage had he been on LP back in that period. Not a 'real American'.

I do believe you are sincere on your views about Obama, pro and con.

MD with the Projection money shot of the day! "Birther"? lol. I've never wasted one second considering that issue. Here's my 1000 yard guess of what it even means based on what I idly read/heard: Obama was born in Kenya therefore not allowed to be an American President?

Well hate to break it to you MD, but I am likely far more liberal on this Americans-only-POTUS than most: my belief is if you're a citizen of America and have lived here legally for more than 20 years, you should be able to run for POTUS.

I guess that wouldn't make me much of a birther, would it?

Here's also where we differ: I think McCain would have been worse than George W (who is my absolute worst POTUS of all time) - his selection of Palin belies an awful ability to read character. Romney would have been no different than a center-left Democrat, which is not what I am seeking any longer in a POTUS. Biden is arguably more conservative than Romney.

How's the mind-reading going for you after that?

[runrussellrun]

leave it to mdlaxfan to bring marshmellows, again, to the party.

In other words, leave tRump and your pretend Conservatism OUT of this thread.

In front of tons of people, making a prepared speech with this prepared opening"

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? "

"...because Janet Reno is her father ! "

A 62 year old pos John McCain said this.

Stay classy, mdlaxfan, stay classy. Has tRump ever said something so horrible about a woman in HIGH school?

Or, calling his wife a "K..Un...T "

You really vet your candidates, really really well. Sarah Palin....really, you voted for THAT?

[runrussellrun]

Someone please explain this graph



Looks like FAILURE to contain in one country to me.

Perhaps this is what you get when politics wins over science with some people.

Trudeau won't be opening the US-Canada border anytime soon. By DOPUS' own past actions, it would not surprise me if the EU imposes a travel ban or 14 day quarantine on those coming into Europe from here.

Your answer is right in the graph you posted.

Charts/graphs like this ONLY matter if all countries are testing at roughly the same percentage rate. We know they are not.

To all those concerned about re-opening. ......how is Switzerland doing? so strange.

[MDlaxfan76]

That means the ICU would be at around 75% "full" without v-19 ?

Hospitals, like prisons, weren't designed to be empty, btw.

Correct, which is why the possibility of exponential growth of C19 cases is so dangerous, and why mitigation efforts like masks and social distancing are so important.

Masks do two things: perpetuate fear and accustom the people to obedience. Masks simply prolong the agony of a virus. .

Humans are built to develop herd immunity which can’t develop rapidly if people shelter and mask up.

What a clown car the left has become. I’d rather they loot stores and break statues than control health policy.

The stupidity of this post is almost -- almost -- hard to believe.

PB has shown us daily this sort of idiocy, all in the name of Trumpism.

When people say 'it can't happen here in America' you only need to look at how absolutely stupid the brown shirts, 'real Americans', for Trump are, with the truly evil 'smart' folks around him enabling Der Leader.

I’m that rare ‘Trumpist’ that only MD can find, the guy who says Joe Biden isn’t a bad cat and life for me wouldn’t change at all if he won. Oh also, I thought Obama was a great POTUS. I am some kind of Trumpist!!!

Meanwhile, in the aisle of Actual Dishonesty, we are still hunting for MD’s first ever positive post about a conservative Republican as MD says he’s a “Republican”. Could you at least say something positive about Tim Scott?

Already have.
I posted that in the resurrection of the GOP post the ignominious defeat of Trumpism, Tim Scott may well have a bright, and important future. The stain of Trumpism may be too much to overcome, but I'd want Scott to be a player in the resurrection.

And nobody believes you aren't voting for Trump again PB, nor that you ever thought Obama was a great POTUS.

Holy Molies there MD, I can't wait to read PBs reply. IMO Obama is a decent an honorable man. He is a FLP in his heart and soul. He proved that when he said he would govern and decide with his pen and his cell phone. He didn't give two chits about what the republicans wanted. He wanted what he wanted. There is nothing wrong with that, he was POTUS for 8 years. He was in charge of the vision he had for this nation. His vision was not anything I agreed with by and large. BHO is the prototypical politician. He is a magician when it comes to spinning his words. He is as nice guy and a gifted speaker as you will ever find. After he is done blowing smoke up your ass you still have to wipe the pixie dust out of your eyes and realize who he really is. He has his own vision for what he wants America to be. If you disagree... well he had his phone and his pen to do what he wanted to do all along.

I voted for McCain and Romney. I think both would have been excellent Presidents.

But I do think Obama was about as good a President as I could ask for while disagreeing with various policies. And indeed, he may go down as a 'great POTUS' not merely a major historical turning point. Time will tell.

But absolutely no one on here believes that PB isn't voting for Trump or actually thought or thinks Obama was a great POTUS. Sadly, not a chance. PB would have been spouting birther garbage had he been on LP back in that period. Not a 'real American'.

I do believe you are sincere on your views about Obama, pro and con.

MD with the Projection money shot of the day! "Birther"? lol. I've never wasted one second considering that issue. Here's my 1000 yard guess of what it even means based on what I idly read/heard: Obama was born in Kenya therefore not allowed to be an American President?

Well hate to break it to you MD, but I am likely far more liberal on this Americans-only-POTUS than most: my belief is if you're a citizen of America and have lived here legally for more than 20 years, you should be able to run for POTUS.

I guess that wouldn't make me much of a birther, would it?

Here's also where we differ: I think McCain would have been worse than George W (who is my absolute worst POTUS of all time) - his selection of Palin belies an awful ability to read character. Romney would have been no different than a center-left Democrat, which is not what I am seeking any longer in a POTUS. Biden is arguably more conservative than Romney.

How's the mind-reading going for you after that?

PB, we only have your conspiracy mongering, far right, partisan wing screeds here on which to judge you. I'll stand by my guess as to where you were on the birther nonsense.

[Peter Brown]

That means the ICU would be at around 75% "full" without v-19 ?

Hospitals, like prisons, weren't designed to be empty, btw.

Correct, which is why the possibility of exponential growth of C19 cases is so dangerous, and why mitigation efforts like masks and social distancing are so important.

Masks do two things: perpetuate fear and accustom the people to obedience. Masks simply prolong the agony of a virus. .

Humans are built to develop herd immunity which can’t develop rapidly if people shelter and mask up.

What a clown car the left has become. I’d rather they loot stores and break statues than control health policy.

The stupidity of this post is almost -- almost -- hard to believe.

PB has shown us daily this sort of idiocy, all in the name of Trumpism.

When people say 'it can't happen here in America' you only need to look at how absolutely stupid the brown shirts, 'real Americans', for Trump are, with the truly evil 'smart' folks around him enabling Der Leader.

I’m that rare ‘Trumpist’ that only MD can find, the guy who says Joe Biden isn’t a bad cat and life for me wouldn’t change at all if he won. Oh also, I thought Obama was a great POTUS. I am some kind of Trumpist!!!

Meanwhile, in the aisle of Actual Dishonesty, we are still hunting for MD’s first ever positive post about a conservative Republican as MD says he’s a “Republican”. Could you at least say something positive about Tim Scott?

Already have.
I posted that in the resurrection of the GOP post the ignominious defeat of Trumpism, Tim Scott may well have a bright, and important future. The stain of Trumpism may be too much to overcome, but I'd want Scott to be a player in the resurrection.

And nobody believes you aren't voting for Trump again PB, nor that you ever thought Obama was a great POTUS.

Holy Molies there MD, I can't wait to read PBs reply. IMO Obama is a decent an honorable man. He is a FLP in his heart and soul. He proved that when he said he would govern and decide with his pen and his cell phone. He didn't give two chits about what the republicans wanted. He wanted what he wanted. There is nothing wrong with that, he was POTUS for 8 years. He was in charge of the vision he had for this nation. His vision was not anything I agreed with by and large. BHO is the prototypical politician. He is a magician when it comes to spinning his words. He is as nice guy and a gifted speaker as you will ever find. After he is done blowing smoke up your ass you still have to wipe the pixie dust out of your eyes and realize who he really is. He has his own vision for what he wants America to be. If you disagree... well he had his phone and his pen to do what he wanted to do all along.

I voted for McCain and Romney. I think both would have been excellent Presidents.

But I do think Obama was about as good a President as I could ask for while disagreeing with various policies. And indeed, he may go down as a 'great POTUS' not merely a major historical turning point. Time will tell.

But absolutely no one on here believes that PB isn't voting for Trump or actually thought or thinks Obama was a great POTUS. Sadly, not a chance. PB would have been spouting birther garbage had he been on LP back in that period. Not a 'real American'.

I do believe you are sincere on your views about Obama, pro and con.

MD with the Projection money shot of the day! "Birther"? lol. I've never wasted one second considering that issue. Here's my 1000 yard guess of what it even means based on what I idly read/heard: Obama was born in Kenya therefore not allowed to be an American President?

Well hate to break it to you MD, but I am likely far more liberal on this Americans-only-POTUS than most: my belief is if you're a citizen of America and have lived here legally for more than 20 years, you should be able to run for POTUS.

I guess that wouldn't make me much of a birther, would it?

Here's also where we differ: I think McCain would have been worse than George W (who is my absolute worst POTUS of all time) - his selection of Palin belies an awful ability to read character. Romney would have been no different than a center-left Democrat, which is not what I am seeking any longer in a POTUS. Biden is arguably more conservative than Romney.

How's the mind-reading going for you after that?

PB, we only have your conspiracy mongering, far right, partisan wing screeds here on which to judge you. I'll stand by my guess as to where you were on the birther nonsense.

But simply electing to ignore the fact that I just publicly told you I think anyone who has been a legal citizen of America for 20 years should lawfully be able to run for POTUS.

Got it!

[CU88]

What the F is wrong with Florida?

On Wednesday, Palm Beach County held a public hearing. Its purpose: with the number of coronavirus cases spiking in Florida, the county commission wanted to hold a vote on mandating the use of masks in public (as Broward and Miami-Dade counties have). The vote came after a two-hour public hearing, during which angry opponents held up Trump signs, threatened the county board with citizens’ arrests, invoked the wrath of God, and held a festival of crazy.

https://thebulwark.com/floridas-idiocracy/

Watch and listen to this Floridian!

https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1 ... 5927741446

Wow, just WOW

It should be standard practice, that when hitting a thread, you go back a few pages to read prior posts. this is yesterdays news.

I will ask you. If you are voting to make face masks mandatory, shouldn't YOU, yourself, be wearing a face mask?

So sorry for not meeting your standards...

[runrussellrun]

What the F is wrong with Florida?

On Wednesday, Palm Beach County held a public hearing. Its purpose: with the number of coronavirus cases spiking in Florida, the county commission wanted to hold a vote on mandating the use of masks in public (as Broward and Miami-Dade counties have). The vote came after a two-hour public hearing, during which angry opponents held up Trump signs, threatened the county board with citizens’ arrests, invoked the wrath of God, and held a festival of crazy.

https://thebulwark.com/floridas-idiocracy/

Watch and listen to this Floridian!

https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1 ... 5927741446

Wow, just WOW

It should be standard practice, that when hitting a thread, you go back a few pages to read prior posts. this is yesterdays news.

I will ask you. If you are voting to make face masks mandatory, shouldn't YOU, yourself, be wearing a face mask?

So sorry for not meeting your standards...

but not sorry for NOT answering a simple question, got it.

[CU88]

What the F is wrong with Florida?

On Wednesday, Palm Beach County held a public hearing. Its purpose: with the number of coronavirus cases spiking in Florida, the county commission wanted to hold a vote on mandating the use of masks in public (as Broward and Miami-Dade counties have). The vote came after a two-hour public hearing, during which angry opponents held up Trump signs, threatened the county board with citizens’ arrests, invoked the wrath of God, and held a festival of crazy.

https://thebulwark.com/floridas-idiocracy/

Watch and listen to this Floridian!

https://twitter.com/gifdsports/status/1 ... 5927741446

Wow, just WOW

It should be standard practice, that when hitting a thread, you go back a few pages to read prior posts. this is yesterdays news.

I will ask you. If you are voting to make face masks mandatory, shouldn't YOU, yourself, be wearing a face mask?

So sorry for not meeting your standards...

but not sorry for NOT answering a simple question, got it.

So sorry, but do you think that I am on the Palm Beach County commission that is voting on this matter? What gave you that impression?