Johns Hopkins 2021

[jhu06]

According to this forum PM just can’t have a team with 60+ players but Petro was going to and intentionally went in that direction.

Well - Petro certainly created the mess but no one said having 60+ was a great idea if he remained the coach. Perhaps he overestimated the fall out or underestimated how many would actually show up given the numbers. I would have said he needed to do the exact same thing I am saying Milliman needs to do - trim the roster

what dozen are you cutting?

[flalax22]

So apparently Petro and Ty Xanders have gone into business together running a recruiting event in South Carolina.

[ohmilax34]

So apparently Petro and Ty Xanders have gone into business together running a recruiting event in South Carolina.

So, one of them will identify which players to invite and the other will coach them up at the event? I'm not sure which person I would choose to do which job.

[Matnum PI]

So apparently Petro and Ty Xanders have gone into business together running a recruiting event in South Carolina.

Is this the "big announcement" that Ty was speaking to last week?

[HopFan16]

I'm mildly curious if Petro's continued presence on the summer circuit—giving talks, holding camps and clinics, sponsoring events, etc.—will have any impact on our recruiting. Probably would be negligible either way but I do find it kind of interesting he's out there so soon after losing his job. Completely his right—I have no issue with it whatsoever. But it's kind of like we have a second head coach representing the program. While it's obviously no longer his responsibility to sell kids on Hopkins, his name alone remains inextricably linked to the program.

Koesterer posted a video message to the team's social media accounts yesterday. Nothing really worth mentioning here (he's holding weekly Zoom sessions with the defense) but it's nice that the new staff is getting their faces out there especially given they can't really meet anyone in person yet: https://twitter.com/jhumenslacrosse/sta ... 9475971073

Pete had one a few days ago, featuring his assistant. Maybe she can apply for DOLO: https://twitter.com/jhumenslacrosse/sta ... 1788536832

[FannOLax]

I'm mildly curious if Petro's continued presence on the summer circuit—giving talks, holding camps and clinics, sponsoring events, etc.—will have any impact on our recruiting. Probably would be negligible either way but I do find it kind of interesting he's out there so soon after losing his job...

Yes, probably negligible; makes sense that Petro wants to get/stay out there and be active rather than sitting at home.

As for his replacement, Milliman took over a Cornell team that in 2017 had gone 5-8 and failed to qualify for the Ivy tournament; under PM in 2018, Cornell was 13-5, won the Ivy tourney (beating the eventual national champion in the ILT final), then beat Cuse in the Dome before getting knocked out of the NCAAs by Maryland in the quarterfinals. In 2019, Cornell went 10-5, knocking off then #1 Towson at a neutral site and later beating Notre Dame in South Bend; I think the Big Red got a raw deal in not making the NCAAs in 2019, but... then, in 2020 Cornell was off to an undefeated start. I think the Jays got a good, promising head coach.

[Xanders]

So apparently Petro and Ty Xanders have gone into business together running a recruiting event in South Carolina.

FYI this is incorrect, we're simply on the same event staff that weekend.

Dave has a hand in it while working in conjunction with ML8 Events, but I'm just providing media coverage for IL like anything else on the recruiting circuit.

[jhu06]

-the effect petro/his camp are going to have on the program right now is how people view the schools treatment of him. I have zero belief as an outsider that after all he's done for the school, the recruits he still has there, and jameson he wants any ill will towards them coming or to boost uva etc. It is very easy however to see coaches/players/administrators wanting to slap back at the school because of how they perceive he is treated which is why it's on the school to reach out later this fall and try to mend fences. he won't get the wins and losses next spring but these are still his groceries milliman is cooking with and I'm sure he wants to see it turn out well.

-the ending was rough but petro out in the hinterlands is going to find people who've spent 35 years watching him on tv and likely getting their first chance to really see and hear him appreciate all his success and accolades. I'm sure belichek and john harbaugh will have him out at training camps among others.

[nyjay]

Would be curious to see what's going is currently going/actually went on behind the scenes. As I think I've mentioned, publicly, this separation has been remarkably amicable. Part of me thinks it actually is - I mean even Petro had to see that things had gotten stale and that he just hadn't been able to pull out of the slide. Add the contract situation to that and maybe there is less bitterness than I would have initially thought. So maybe there's not the breakage with recruits, etc. we would have expected and there will be a little more continuity between the regimes.

There are a lot more folks on this board who are more connected to the program than me, so would be curious to hear what the scuttlebutt is currently.

[flalax22]

So apparently Petro and Ty Xanders have gone into business together running a recruiting event in South Carolina.

FYI this is incorrect, we're simply on the same event staff that weekend.

Dave has a hand in it while working in conjunction with ML8 Events, but I'm just providing media coverage for IL like anything else on the recruiting circuit.

Sorry Ty. The tweet and associated pic made it look like it was a Petro/Xanders event.

[DocBarrister]

Would be curious to see what's going is currently going/actually went on behind the scenes. As I think I've mentioned, publicly, this separation has been remarkably amicable. Part of me thinks it actually is - I mean even Petro had to see that things had gotten stale and that he just hadn't been able to pull out of the slide. Add the contract situation to that and maybe there is less bitterness than I would have initially thought. So maybe there's not the breakage with recruits, etc. we would have expected and there will be a little more continuity between the regimes.

There are a lot more folks on this board who are more connected to the program than me, so would be curious to hear what the scuttlebutt is currently.

I suspect Coach Pietramala has already done so privately, but I haven’t seen him congratulate Coach Milliman publicly yet (and I didn’t expect him to do so).

Must still hurt to have lost one’s dream job. Fully expect Petro to land a great coaching job eventually.

DocBarrister

[HopFan16]

Marcelo Arteaga gets today's intro: https://twitter.com/jhumenslacrosse/sta ... 8999000064

Big, fast, physical athlete out of Florida. Played on the SweetLax national team with McDermott and a few others. I've never seen him play in person so I won't pretend to know more than that. But seems like he might be a candidate for SSDM/transition.

[jhu06]

they have at least half a dozen kids from non lacrosse hotbeds coming in several weeks from now recruited by another staff who largely missed their senior seasons against what was presumably lesser skilled competition to begin with. steep learning curve there.

[nyjay]

The fact there are new systems everywhere should even out the competition a bit. Still steep learning curves, but everyone is going to have one, even the veterans.

[HopFan16]

Even the kids from non-hotbeds have faced quality competition playing club lacrosse, albeit the club game is admittedly different than high school. Arteaga for instance may not have faced the greatest competition ever playing down in Florida but as I mentioned before he also suited up for a SweetLax team that played the best club teams in the country—including that Team 91 team with McAdorey, O'Neill, Spallina, and our Brett Martin, among many other high-level D1 commits.

PS, you can watch that game here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaLEUiq-0-0
On a field full of excellent players, McDermott still really sticks out IMO. Probably why he's ranked so high. Arteaga mostly plays SSDM in this game. Martin plays both ends for Team 91—doesn't do a whole lot but his clearing speed stands out, at one point makes Quint go "whoa!"

Freshmen everywhere are going to face a steep learning curve given they missed most of their senior seasons of high school and now face the prospect of a truncated or nonexistent fall ball. It'll be mostly on the coaching staffs to develop them to a point where at least a few are ready to contribute. But I think it makes some sense to lower immediate expectations across the board.

Chauvette gets today's intro: https://twitter.com/jhumenslacrosse/sta ... 0696790018
Most of the focus has been on Grimes and McDermott for obvious reasons and to a lesser degree Bauer but Chauvette is an intriguing attackman in his own right—he is one kid whom you don't have to worry faced stiff competition playing for Culver. Originally from Ohio but plays like a Canadian, nice lefty shot from the wing and solid stick skills.

[jhu06]

I don't remember what Petros record w/guys from non hotbeds was. He hit on pierce, coppersmith, wilkins to an extent. There was a kid from tennessee who didn't do much. I've forgotten the others.

[44WeWantMore]

Hey this is the JHU thread, right?
So...
A learning curve shows improvements over time (x-axis). So on the y-axis, you plot productivity (say CTOs per game or time per clear). So as you improve your CTOs per game the curve slopes up, while as you reduce your average time to clear, the curve slopes down.

But in either case, if the curve is steep, you are improving fast.

So, if forum etiquette is easy to learn and a poster quickly reduces cat posters to only the very best, that is a steep learning curve.

[jhu06]

Hey this is the JHU thread, right?
So...
A learning curve shows improvements over time (x-axis). So on the y-axis, you plot productivity (say CTOs per game or time per clear). So as you improve your CTOs per game the curve slopes up, while as you reduce your average time to clear, the curve slopes down.

But in either case, if the curve is steep, you are improving fast.

So, if forum etiquette is easy to learn and a poster quickly reduces cat posters to only the very best, that is a steep learning curve.

-please no math. we have terp grads present.
-now that we have a new regime, time to get rid of the second twitter account they have that hasn't posted in awhile.
-they have a twitter w/9 middies that a few of you mentioned earlier. I'd love a post ranking Hopkins jerseys over time, old ones they'd need color on.
based on the middie post @jhumenslacrosse twitter/instagram jhumenslax I'd go 652379841. Never liked the early aughts royal blues.

[runrussellrun]

Even the kids from non-hotbeds have faced quality competition playing club lacrosse, albeit the club game is admittedly different than high school. Arteaga for instance may not have faced the greatest competition ever playing down in Florida but as I mentioned before he also suited up for a SweetLax team that played the best club teams in the country—including that Team 91 team with McAdorey, O'Neill, Spallina, and our Brett Martin, among many other high-level D1 commits.

PS, you can watch that game here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaLEUiq-0-0
On a field full of excellent players, McDermott still really sticks out IMO. Probably why he's ranked so high. Arteaga mostly plays SSDM in this game. Martin plays both ends for Team 91—doesn't do a whole lot but his clearing speed stands out, at one point makes Quint go "whoa!"

The teams in the video: the finalists

Outscored opponents 22-5 and 25-8, respectively. One of them, beating a team 11-1.

You said something about competitive club lacrosse. Just not seeing it, based on the scores.

[51percentcorn]

web posting on 2021 coming to Hopkins - says he committed to follow Milliman and play for him and JGJR
https://phillylacrosse.com/2020/mainlin ... s-hopkins/