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a fan wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:59 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:39 pm Don’t know any to ask. For me I think it’s a good decision.
Oh, I'm aware. Your Republican friends.....not so much.
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:39 pm And like I said but which you curiously failed to include, on some level I don’t care.
Which means, obviously that on "some level", you do indeed care.
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:39 pm I know exactly who Democrat’s are and who they aren’t. What they aren’t are patriotic, but they want you to think they are. Hence this event if it happens will reveal who they are
This is why you're a pro-government zealot. The most American thing you can possibly do, is tell the American Government to F off. It's the ENTIRE reason the very first Amendment is:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

You have managed to convince yourself that standing at attention for the magic Government song makes one a patriot.

You understand that people other than Americans stand during the playing of our National Anthem, right? Was at a Vancouver Canucks game earlier this year, and an arena full of Canadians stood quietly during the playing of our National Anthem.

So does this mean (snicker) that I was surrounded by a few thousand American patriots? Or does standing during a song have NOTHING to do with patriotism?


I'm as far from a 'pro-government zealot' you will ever find. I'd be quite ecstatic if someone immediately laid off 50% of all government employees, on the way to keeping only 10% of those that today work as federal employees. I want all federal government employees to no longer be shielded by immunity laws. I want all federal government employees to have defined contribution pension plans. I would like to abolish at least 50% of all federal agencies that have cabinet level status.

What I am also about is law and order. These two positions are not mutually exclusive.

I also have immense pride in America...being born in America was like starting on 3rd base in life. Most democrats do not have that pride; they tell you they do, but they don't. And I am not talking about the dwindling lacrosse octogenarians of Fanlax, but the new growing Democratic Party that you find in NYC and Seattle.

If you were honest, you'd admit that the Party will have an immensely difficult straddle this Fall, trying to play to the sane taxpayers who love the United States by wanting to stand for the Flag, but also needing to play woke to the angry Young anti-American Pioneers of the Party. And they will kneel...mark that down. he Left at the end of the day is a weak organism, propped up by a mob's anger, which never lasts forever; the mob is dumb and unpredictable, a very bad combo, but ultimately it fizzles out.

It will end in chaos.
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6ftstick wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:16 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:08 pm
6ftstick wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:51 pm The only people virtue signaling and canceling here are you boys out there on the left. And don't give me that ch*t that your moderate or conservative. "That federal government song" labels you succinctly.
:lol: Uh oh. You think I'm "being a moderate wrong". I had NO IDEA that you were a clearing house for how moderates are supposed to think and act. Do you supply permission slips, perchance?

A conservative would NEVER tell the Federal Government to F off, right 6ft? I'll remember stance of your this the next time you criticize the Federal Government. A REAL conservative wouldn't criticize America. Whoo. Good one.
Well Bub you never tell the "government" to F off. You tell Trump to F off. You tell me to F off. Cradle, PB and the others trying to defend the constitution and the culture.

F OFF all of us.

But never the protestors. The cop killers. The culture destroyers. The statue and monument wreckers.

All good. You're woke and virtue signaling. You're the one dolling out virtue and ridiculing virtue at the same time


… he never once has told you to F off when you were actually defending the constitution.
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6ftstick wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:16 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:08 pm
6ftstick wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:51 pm The only people virtue signaling and canceling here are you boys out there on the left. And don't give me that ch*t that your moderate or conservative. "That federal government song" labels you succinctly.
:lol: Uh oh. You think I'm "being a moderate wrong". I had NO IDEA that you were a clearing house for how moderates are supposed to think and act. Do you supply permission slips, perchance?

A conservative would NEVER tell the Federal Government to F off, right 6ft? I'll remember stance of your this the next time you criticize the Federal Government. A REAL conservative wouldn't criticize America. Whoo. Good one.
Well Bub you never tell the "government" to F off. You tell Trump to F off. You tell me to F off. Cradle, PB and the others trying to defend the constitution and the culture.

F OFF all of us.

But never the protestors. The cop killers. The culture destroyers. The statue and monument wreckers.

All good. You're woke and virtue signaling. You're the one dolling out virtue and ridiculing virtue at the same time


To a fan's credit, he's not nearly as easy to resort to personal insults as most of the Left here.

What you need to understand when someone resorts to direct personal insults on an Internet board is two things: clinically they are birdbrains, and opposing opinions give them headaches. Any time the Left here says something to me personally as a direct insult, I bathe in the mental anguish of the poster (I actually have to lay off at that stage, as their next move is possibly to go postal, and none of us want that on our conscience)
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6ftstick wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:16 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:08 pm
6ftstick wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:51 pm The only people virtue signaling and canceling here are you boys out there on the left. And don't give me that ch*t that your moderate or conservative. "That federal government song" labels you succinctly.
:lol: Uh oh. You think I'm "being a moderate wrong". I had NO IDEA that you were a clearing house for how moderates are supposed to think and act. Do you supply permission slips, perchance?

A conservative would NEVER tell the Federal Government to F off, right 6ft? I'll remember stance of your this the next time you criticize the Federal Government. A REAL conservative wouldn't criticize America. Whoo. Good one.
Well Bub you never tell the "government" to F off. You tell Trump to F off. You tell me to F off. Cradle, PB and the others trying to defend the constitution and the culture.

F OFF all of us.

But never the protestors. The cop killers. The culture destroyers. The statue and monument wreckers.

All good. You're woke and virtue signaling. You're the one dolling out virtue and ridiculing virtue at the same time

Educate us on how good BLM is for the culture.

How good it is that some radical anarchists have taken over a swath of a large American city and the Mayor and governor says "ahh its just kids playin."

Those kids are talking about guillotines and people who disagree with them.

They're urging cops to put their guns under their chins and off themselves.

All your lefty pals think its a joke. Laugh Laugh Laugh.
… he as never once take you to task for actually defending the constitution. :roll: You have a really bizarre view of yourself there Captain America. When is your next movie?
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:21 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:59 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:39 pm Don’t know any to ask. For me I think it’s a good decision.
Oh, I'm aware. Your Republican friends.....not so much.
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:39 pm And like I said but which you curiously failed to include, on some level I don’t care.
Which means, obviously that on "some level", you do indeed care.
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:39 pm I know exactly who Democrat’s are and who they aren’t. What they aren’t are patriotic, but they want you to think they are. Hence this event if it happens will reveal who they are
This is why you're a pro-government zealot. The most American thing you can possibly do, is tell the American Government to F off. It's the ENTIRE reason the very first Amendment is:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

You have managed to convince yourself that standing at attention for the magic Government song makes one a patriot.

You understand that people other than Americans stand during the playing of our National Anthem, right? Was at a Vancouver Canucks game earlier this year, and an arena full of Canadians stood quietly during the playing of our National Anthem.

So does this mean (snicker) that I was surrounded by a few thousand American patriots? Or does standing during a song have NOTHING to do with patriotism?


I'm as far from a 'pro-government zealot' you will ever find. I'd be quite ecstatic if someone immediately laid off 50% of all government employees, on the way to keeping only 10% of those that today work as federal employees. I want all federal government employees to no longer be shielded by immunity laws. I want all federal government employees to have defined contribution pension plans. I would like to abolish at least 50% of all federal agencies that have cabinet level status.

What I am also about is law and order. These two positions are not mutually exclusive.

I also have immense pride in America...being born in America was like starting on 3rd base in life. Most democrats do not have that pride; they tell you they do, but they don't. And I am not talking about the dwindling lacrosse octogenarians of Fanlax, but the new growing Democratic Party that you find in NYC and Seattle.

If you were honest, you'd admit that the Party will have an immensely difficult straddle this Fall, trying to play to the sane taxpayers who love the United States by wanting to stand for the Flag, but also needing to play woke to the angry Young anti-American Pioneers of the Party. And they will kneel...mark that down. he Left at the end of the day is a weak organism, propped up by a mob's anger, which never lasts forever; the mob is dumb and unpredictable, a very bad combo, but ultimately it fizzles out.

It will end in chaos.


… bloviate much? :lol:
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Anyhoo, you're in the minority in your Party today; soon, you won't even be welcome. A requirement to be a Democrat will be to take a knee when the National Anthem is played.
I fly the flag on my house every day. An homage to my greatest generation father. Most of my neighbors on the block (Rep, Dem, native, immigrant) followed my lead and now do the same as well. It just totally nicks me off when the MAGAs lay exclusive claim to the flag and patriotism. Especially when they are as anti-American and anti-democracy as anything I've seen in my lifetime.

The MAGA jerk at the other end of the street (of course) declined to fly the flag. Had to grind his ax by flying a Don't Tread on Me instead of the Stars and Stripes. Nobody on the block likes him (for lots of reasons); thankfully, he recently moved away.

When I finally get back to going to ballgames, I think I probably will take a knee during the Anthem. I think that is a very respectful and American thing to do.
Boycott stupid. Country over party.
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:21 pm I'm as far from a 'pro-government zealot' you will ever find. I'd be quite ecstatic if someone immediately laid off 50% of all government employees, on the way to keeping only 10% of those that today work as federal employees. I want all federal government employees to no longer be shielded by immunity laws. I want all federal government employees to have defined contribution pension plans. I would like to abolish at least 50% of all federal agencies that have cabinet level status.
50% cuts? So liquidate the University of Florida? :lol: Where do I sign for that?

And no more public schools? Okay. Works for me.
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:21 pm What I am also about is law and order. These two positions are not mutually exclusive.
No. They aren't. But what IS mutually exclusive is telling citizens that the police departments are perfect, don't need changes.... and every other department in our Government can handle budget cuts, or reorganization for improved performance ....except the police.

That is absurd, and you know it. And yet you whine about "defunding the police". NYC blows $500 Million on pensions----just the pensions----and you're telling us that defunding that system is insane? Please.
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:21 pm I also have immense pride in America...being born in America was like starting on 3rd base in life. Most democrats do not have that pride; they tell you they do, but they don't.
This is fascist nonsense, Pete. You don't get to question someone else's patriotism, pal. I sure as *hit would never question yours. It's a disgusting, fascist, wrapping-yourself-in-the-flag bullcookies.
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:21 pm If you were honest, you'd admit that the Party will have an immensely difficult straddle this Fall, trying to play to the sane taxpayers who love the United States by wanting to stand for the Flag, but also needing to play woke to the angry Young anti-American Pioneers of the Party.
That's certainly YOUR interpretation.

What MY interpretation is: they're finally listening to people who are trying to tell their leaders that their government is failing them. I find it very, very telling just how desperate you are to plug your ears, and refuse to listen to what your fellow citizens are telling you.

Well---that's what these people are telling you: the government has major problems. You CLAIM to agree with them. This is why I keep saying that your party has an ENORMOUS opportunity here------listen to your fellow citizens as they detail these problems. And then offer your conservative based solution to the problems. You claim the Dems get it wrong? I have great news! These citizens are complaining about D-run governments! So give them your practical Republican solutions!

Everyone wins! And you'd have a whole new Republican base.

Naaaaah. Now why would you want to do that? I like your idea better. Whine about the worst of the protesters....and then don't lift a finger to offer solutions.
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You know what helps to being born on third base? Having an affluent parent(s) to provide and support one well into and through adulthood. I can’t imagine how much easier it would’ve been for me not having to borrow or hustle to pay for both college and grad school, go to mid tier institutions and still land a front office gig in NY only to be surrounded by others coming mostly from NE boarding schools to Ivy and maybe 10-15 other colleges and have to work twice as hard once there. Would’ve been nice to
Just relocate to a tax free state and cruise in adulthood on the dividend checks.
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ggait wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:45 pm
Anyhoo, you're in the minority in your Party today; soon, you won't even be welcome. A requirement to be a Democrat will be to take a knee when the National Anthem is played.
I fly the flag on my house every day. An homage to my greatest generation father. Most of my neighbors on the block (Rep, Dem, native, immigrant) followed my lead and now do the same as well. It just totally nicks me off when the MAGAs lay exclusive claim to the flag and patriotism. Especially when they are as anti-American and anti-democracy as anything I've seen in my lifetime.

The MAGA jerk at the other end of the street (of course) declined to fly the flag. Had to grind his ax by flying a Don't Tread on Me instead of the Stars and Stripes. Nobody on the block likes him (for lots of reasons); thankfully, he recently moved away.

When I finally get back to going to ballgames, I think I probably will take a knee during the Anthem. I think that is a very respectful and American thing to do.
+1,000.
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Any truth to the rumor that Trump told Meadows to fire Neil Gorsuch after yesterday’s decision?

https://apple.news/AaqaRDM1dSjK7XUQobe07vA
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ggait wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:45 pm
Anyhoo, you're in the minority in your Party today; soon, you won't even be welcome. A requirement to be a Democrat will be to take a knee when the National Anthem is played.
I fly the flag on my house every day. An homage to my greatest generation father. Most of my neighbors on the block (Rep, Dem, native, immigrant) followed my lead and now do the same as well. It just totally nicks me off when the MAGAs lay exclusive claim to the flag and patriotism. Especially when they are as anti-American and anti-democracy as anything I've seen in my lifetime.

The MAGA jerk at the other end of the street (of course) declined to fly the flag. Had to grind his ax by flying a Don't Tread on Me instead of the Stars and Stripes. Nobody on the block likes him (for lots of reasons); thankfully, he recently moved away.

When I finally get back to going to ballgames, I think I probably will take a knee during the Anthem. I think that is a very respectful and American thing to do.


You should take a knee.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:31 pm You know what helps to being born on third base? Having an affluent parent(s) to provide and support one well into and through adulthood. I can’t imagine how much easier it would’ve been for me not having to borrow or hustle to pay for both college and grad school, go to mid tier institutions and still land a front office gig in NY only to be surrounded by others coming mostly from NE boarding schools to Ivy and maybe 10-15 other colleges and have to work twice as hard once there. Would’ve been nice to
Just relocate to a tax free state and cruise in adulthood on the dividend checks.


Democrats have this uncanny ability to know everyone’s personal story and believe the worst (or best). It has a ton to do with the constant direct personal insults on Internet forums. Angry dopeyness. You know what winners do, Farfromgeneva? For starters, they don’t bi!ch, they get to work.
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Who’s bitching and who is a democrat? I’m just stating an observation which is very much true. If you read anything into it that’s on you. I’m doing fine and earned every penny, occasionally not seeing my infant children or sacrificing personal time but Im in good shape generally, have far surpassed my parents or anyone else on my side of the family. That’s a success story for a generation where doing better than parents is fast slipping.

Who are you suggesting is a winner? Would having a net worth 5x the estate of ones parents with a home mostly paid for that’s 2x in size of the home own grew up in and providing all sorts of things for their children than they had? Does that constitute winner?
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Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:33 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:31 pm You know what helps to being born on third base? Having an affluent parent(s) to provide and support one well into and through adulthood. I can’t imagine how much easier it would’ve been for me not having to borrow or hustle to pay for both college and grad school, go to mid tier institutions and still land a front office gig in NY only to be surrounded by others coming mostly from NE boarding schools to Ivy and maybe 10-15 other colleges and have to work twice as hard once there. Would’ve been nice to
Just relocate to a tax free state and cruise in adulthood on the dividend checks.


Democrats have this uncanny ability to know everyone’s personal story and believe the worst (or best). It has a ton to do with the constant direct personal insults on Internet forums. Angry dopeyness. You know what winners do, Farfromgeneva? For starters, they don’t bi!ch, they get to work.
Boyo, a lot of projection here.
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Harvard University, out
University of Utah, in

I am going to get a 4.0 in damage.

(Afan jealous he didn’t do this first)
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seacoaster wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:30 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 7:33 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:31 pm You know what helps to being born on third base? Having an affluent parent(s) to provide and support one well into and through adulthood. I can’t imagine how much easier it would’ve been for me not having to borrow or hustle to pay for both college and grad school, go to mid tier institutions and still land a front office gig in NY only to be surrounded by others coming mostly from NE boarding schools to Ivy and maybe 10-15 other colleges and have to work twice as hard once there. Would’ve been nice to
Just relocate to a tax free state and cruise in adulthood on the dividend checks.


Democrats have this uncanny ability to know everyone’s personal story and believe the worst (or best). It has a ton to do with the constant direct personal insults on Internet forums. Angry dopeyness. You know what winners do, Farfromgeneva? For starters, they don’t bi!ch, they get to work.
Boyo, a lot of projection here.
Ya think? :lol:
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jhu72 wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:03 pm The opinion I was dying to hear. :lol:
It seems that the Federalist Society, an organization of and for the one percent, has once again snookered the evangelicals. Ooops!
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CU77 wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:39 pm
jhu72 wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:03 pm The opinion I was dying to hear. :lol:
It seems that the Federalist Society, an organization of and for the one percent, has once again snookered the evangelicals. Ooops!
Sort of like liberal progressive democrats snookering people of color for 6 decades.
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6ftstick wrote: Wed Jun 17, 2020 9:00 am
CU77 wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:39 pm
jhu72 wrote: Tue Jun 16, 2020 11:03 pm The opinion I was dying to hear. :lol:
It seems that the Federalist Society, an organization of and for the one percent, has once again snookered the evangelicals. Ooops!
Sort of like liberal progressive democrats snookering people of color for 6 decades.


Perhaps not for much longer. You can not fool the people forever.
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