All things Chinese CoronaVirus

[6ftstick]

Several University of Alabama football players test positive for Covid-19

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/us/alaba ... index.html

They’re just returning to campus. With a huge roster and close contact, I don’t know how they expect to be able to play by September.

Two Marshall players, one staffer test positive for COVID-19

Three Oklahoma State players test positive for coronavirus, freshmen told not to report to campus

They could just say they're protesting racism and they'll be safe.

[6ftstick]

Whoopsie

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/ar ... ne-article

NEW YORK/LONDON (Reuters) - An influential study that found hydroxychloroquine increased the risk of death in COVID-19 patients has been withdrawn a week after it led to major trials being halted, adding to confusion about a malaria drug championed by U.S. President Donald Trump.

Another study in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) that used Surgisphere data and shared the same lead author, Harvard Medical School Professor Mandeep Mehra, was retracted for the same reason.

Wonder how many people DIED that didn't have to because POLITICS is more important than science..

[MDlaxfan76]

Whoopsie

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/ar ... ne-article

NEW YORK/LONDON (Reuters) - An influential study that found hydroxychloroquine increased the risk of death in COVID-19 patients has been withdrawn a week after it led to major trials being halted, adding to confusion about a malaria drug championed by U.S. President Donald Trump.

Another study in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) that used Surgisphere data and shared the same lead author, Harvard Medical School Professor Mandeep Mehra, was retracted for the same reason.

Wonder how many people DIED that didn't have to because POLITICS is more important than science..

Guess you missed that the best study to date, double blind, rigorous etc reported out this week that there's zero positive effect from HCQ in prophylactic (preventive) use.

No one has died from not using HCQ for COVID-19. It doesn't help at all.

The other study you are referring to found that there were significant adverse effects when being used with seriously ill patients, but apparently there's something that needs to be corrected. Don't get too far out over your skis that the ultimate answer isn't the same, with adverse effects shown.

[youthathletics]

Whoopsie

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/ar ... ne-article

NEW YORK/LONDON (Reuters) - An influential study that found hydroxychloroquine increased the risk of death in COVID-19 patients has been withdrawn a week after it led to major trials being halted, adding to confusion about a malaria drug championed by U.S. President Donald Trump.

Another study in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) that used Surgisphere data and shared the same lead author, Harvard Medical School Professor Mandeep Mehra, was retracted for the same reason.

Wonder how many people DIED that didn't have to because POLITICS is more important than science..

Guess you missed that the best study to date, double blind, rigorous etc reported out this week that there's zero positive effect from HCQ in prophylactic (preventive) use.

No one has died from not using HCQ for COVID-19. It doesn't help at all.

The other study you are referring to found that there were significant adverse effects when being used with seriously ill patients, but apparently there's something that needs to be corrected. Don't get too far out over your skis that the ultimate answer isn't the same, with adverse effects shown.

Wouldn't it be ironic if they discover teargas kills the virus.

[MDlaxfan76]

Whoopsie

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/ar ... ne-article

NEW YORK/LONDON (Reuters) - An influential study that found hydroxychloroquine increased the risk of death in COVID-19 patients has been withdrawn a week after it led to major trials being halted, adding to confusion about a malaria drug championed by U.S. President Donald Trump.

Another study in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) that used Surgisphere data and shared the same lead author, Harvard Medical School Professor Mandeep Mehra, was retracted for the same reason.

Wonder how many people DIED that didn't have to because POLITICS is more important than science..

Guess you missed that the best study to date, double blind, rigorous etc reported out this week that there's zero positive effect from HCQ in prophylactic (preventive) use.

No one has died from not using HCQ for COVID-19. It doesn't help at all.

The other study you are referring to found that there were significant adverse effects when being used with seriously ill patients, but apparently there's something that needs to be corrected. Don't get too far out over your skis that the ultimate answer isn't the same, with adverse effects shown.

Wouldn't it be ironic if they discover teargas kills the virus.

has about much chance as HCQ

[6ftstick]

Whoopsie

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/ar ... ne-article

NEW YORK/LONDON (Reuters) - An influential study that found hydroxychloroquine increased the risk of death in COVID-19 patients has been withdrawn a week after it led to major trials being halted, adding to confusion about a malaria drug championed by U.S. President Donald Trump.

Another study in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) that used Surgisphere data and shared the same lead author, Harvard Medical School Professor Mandeep Mehra, was retracted for the same reason.

Wonder how many people DIED that didn't have to because POLITICS is more important than science..

Guess you missed that the best study to date, double blind, rigorous etc reported out this week that there's zero positive effect from HCQ in prophylactic (preventive) use.

No one has died from not using HCQ for COVID-19. It doesn't help at all.

The other study you are referring to found that there were significant adverse effects when being used with seriously ill patients, but apparently there's something that needs to be corrected. Don't get too far out over your skis that the ultimate answer isn't the same, with adverse effects shown.

Wouldn't it be ironic if they discover teargas kills the virus.

has about much chance as HCQ

Youre so cute. Do we have to post all the videos from people who WERE SAVED by the drug. AGAIN. Of course they must be crazy.

[MDlaxfan76]

Whoopsie

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/ar ... ne-article

NEW YORK/LONDON (Reuters) - An influential study that found hydroxychloroquine increased the risk of death in COVID-19 patients has been withdrawn a week after it led to major trials being halted, adding to confusion about a malaria drug championed by U.S. President Donald Trump.

Another study in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) that used Surgisphere data and shared the same lead author, Harvard Medical School Professor Mandeep Mehra, was retracted for the same reason.

Wonder how many people DIED that didn't have to because POLITICS is more important than science..

Guess you missed that the best study to date, double blind, rigorous etc reported out this week that there's zero positive effect from HCQ in prophylactic (preventive) use.

No one has died from not using HCQ for COVID-19. It doesn't help at all.

The other study you are referring to found that there were significant adverse effects when being used with seriously ill patients, but apparently there's something that needs to be corrected. Don't get too far out over your skis that the ultimate answer isn't the same, with adverse effects shown.

Wouldn't it be ironic if they discover teargas kills the virus.

has about much chance as HCQ

Youre so cute. Do we have to post all the videos from people who WERE SAVED by the drug. AGAIN. Of course they must be crazy.

This numbskullery is ridiculous 6ft.
Did you see the study, the only fully double blind one to date, showing zero positive prophylactic effect of HCQ...out this past week. No one has been saved by the drug.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/05/hyd ... e-of-drug/

Earlier studies showed no positive effects as well.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... e-covid-19

[6ftstick]

Whoopsie

https://www.usnews.com/news/top-news/ar ... ne-article

NEW YORK/LONDON (Reuters) - An influential study that found hydroxychloroquine increased the risk of death in COVID-19 patients has been withdrawn a week after it led to major trials being halted, adding to confusion about a malaria drug championed by U.S. President Donald Trump.

Another study in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) that used Surgisphere data and shared the same lead author, Harvard Medical School Professor Mandeep Mehra, was retracted for the same reason.

Wonder how many people DIED that didn't have to because POLITICS is more important than science..

Guess you missed that the best study to date, double blind, rigorous etc reported out this week that there's zero positive effect from HCQ in prophylactic (preventive) use.

No one has died from not using HCQ for COVID-19. It doesn't help at all.

The other study you are referring to found that there were significant adverse effects when being used with seriously ill patients, but apparently there's something that needs to be corrected. Don't get too far out over your skis that the ultimate answer isn't the same, with adverse effects shown.

Wouldn't it be ironic if they discover teargas kills the virus.

has about much chance as HCQ

Youre so cute. Do we have to post all the videos from people who WERE SAVED by the drug. AGAIN. Of course they must be crazy.

No one has been saved by the drug.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/05/hyd ... e-of-drug/

Earlier studies showed no positive effects as well.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... e-covid-19

https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/michigan- ... -her-life/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/0 ... ving-drug/

https://therightscoop.com/florida-man-w ... -his-life/

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavl ... e-n2566409

[MDlaxfan76]

So if I claim that God saved me from COVID-19 did he?
After all, I'm still alive...

Actually, I could make THAT argument easier than with HCQ.

Seriously, individuals and even their doctors have ZERO idea what actually made the difference between one patient's outcome and another's.

You need actual scientific controlled studies.

But perhaps you think that you know better?

[6ftstick]

So if I claim that God saved me from COVID-19 did he?
After all, I'm still alive...

Actually, I could make THAT argument easier than with HCQ.

Seriously, individuals and even their doctors have ZERO idea what actually made the difference between one patient's outcome and another's.

You need actual scientific controlled studies.

But perhaps you think that you know better?

I thought you were God. Only more arrogant and condescending

[MDlaxfan76]

So if I claim that God saved me from COVID-19 did he?
After all, I'm still alive...

Actually, I could make THAT argument easier than with HCQ.

Seriously, individuals and even their doctors have ZERO idea what actually made the difference between one patient's outcome and another's.

You need actual scientific controlled studies.

But perhaps you think that you know better?

I thought you were God. Only more arrogant and condescending

If you find me arrogant and condescending because I point out numbskullery and hypocrisy, ok, I can live with that.

If it's because I fail to be respectful all the time, I regret that, but would admit to that failure at times.

I'm pretty PO'd by the idiocy and downright nastiness I see that is too often excused by the Trump Cult.

[RedFromMI]

As Trump touts increased production, coronavirus swabs made during his Maine factory tour will be tossed in the trash

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/pol ... 153622001/

One possibility is his visit "contaminated" the production run (which was going to be limited anyway due to the presidential visit).

[wgdsr]

So if I claim that God saved me from COVID-19 did he?
After all, I'm still alive...

Actually, I could make THAT argument easier than with HCQ.

Seriously, individuals and even their doctors have ZERO idea what actually made the difference between one patient's outcome and another's.

You need actual scientific controlled studies.

But perhaps you think that you know better?

mdlax, in one breath you point out you need actual scientific controlled studies.
in another, you say "the drug doesn't work", "it doesn't help at all", and doctors themselves have zero idea what made a difference in patients (but you seem to know?).

your point of reference is yet another study that looks at hospital, critical care.

for the umpteenth time... advocates of the drug have offered that it may have its most effectiveness early in treatment, with zinc, to prevent replication at that stage.

minnesota's study had their share of issues, but i and maybe anyone would've been surprised that it would actually prevent people from getting it at all.

you also ponder that the data from a withdrawn study might end up being good or representative. i suggest you do a deeper dive on that one. it was completely fraudulent, as i postured some time ago. and lends more to the fact that published and peer reviewed data is broken than anything else.

minny is also doing an early treatment trial, including with a zinc cohort. we'll see.

[get it to x]

So if I claim that God saved me from COVID-19 did he?
After all, I'm still alive...

Actually, I could make THAT argument easier than with HCQ.

Seriously, individuals and even their doctors have ZERO idea what actually made the difference between one patient's outcome and another's.

You need actual scientific controlled studies.

But perhaps you think that you know better?

mdlax, in one breath you point out you need actual scientific controlled studies.
in another, you say "the drug doesn't work", "it doesn't help at all", and doctors themselves have zero idea what made a difference in patients (but you seem to know?).

your point of reference is yet another study that looks at hospital, critical care.

for the umpteenth time... advocates of the drug have offered that it may have its most effectiveness early in treatment, with zinc, to prevent replication at that stage.

minnesota's study had their share of issues, but i and maybe anyone would've been surprised that it would actually prevent people from getting it at all.

you also ponder that the data from a withdrawn study might end up being good or representative. i suggest you do a deeper dive on that one. it was completely fraudulent, as i postured some time ago. and lends more to the fact that published and peer reviewed data is broken than anything else.

minny is also doing an early treatment trial, including with a zinc cohort. we'll see.

This points out 76's willingness to easily accept anything that sheds a poor light on Trump while rejecting out of hand anything that might make him look good. You say you are a moderate but you act like a woke 22 year old. Pure science is almost dead, between the state using it to impose its will on us through stuff like CAFE standards to corporations passing off junk science so they can dodge responsibility. Medicine might be the purest, but it still has profit motive built in. In this case, I'm not ruling out HCL is not favored because the patent ran out and it's cheap. Big Pharma would rather sell you an expensive drug or vaccine they can sell over and over again.

[youthathletics]

Las Vegas....Mask free.

https://twitter.com/CillizzaCNN/status/ ... 47622?s=20

[old salt]

These protests are turning into the world's largest super spreader block party.

This should squelch any further quacking about West Point holding a graduation/commissioning ceremony with Trump addressing.

Too bad USNA didn't postpone a few weeks.

[a fan]

America is now "all in" on the notion that Covid is just no big deal.

Fingers crossed.

Only thing I'm not seeing much of in either protest videos or indoor restaurants/casinos? Grey hair. Let's hope that's enough.

[old salt]

America is now "all in" on the notion that Covid is just no big deal.

Fingers crossed.

Only thing I'm not seeing much of in either protest videos or indoor restaurants/casinos? Grey hair. Let's hope that's enough.

Watching DC local 11 o'clock news. After 3 mos lock down, lots of energy being released. Only about 50% wearing masks.
Young crowd on the prowl. With bars & night clubs closed, this is the new hookup haven.

[a fan]

We've both said this before: our culture can't handle a pandemic.

Cross fingers, and hope that it works out.

[seacoaster]

NH’s Republican Governor just extended the state of emergency. Meanwhile...

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-sets-n ... ssion=true