Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[Typical Lax Dad]

Looks like America

[Bart]

100k-200k protesters this wk end, packed into newly designated BLM Plaza = the ultimate Covid super spreader event.

Glad we surrendered our freedoms of movement & assembly for the past 3 mos, & destroyed our economy, to pisz it all away, for this.

We just opened up The country like Trump suggested. Did you see the stock market today?

Country is opening up for certain. But in my home state social distancing is still required for alot of things. This is not that.

I seem to recall many here calling the protesters who were protesting the closure of states to be ignorant and selfish. Putting lives in danger. From a public health point of view, how are these Demonstrations any different?

[njbill]

Fair point. Both sides are being pretty much equally hypocritical on this issue.

The only thing I would say is that the governmental entities apparently have decided to allow both types of protests, whether by those protesting the shut downs or those protesting Floyd’s death, notwithstanding the potential health risks. Hopefully this won’t come back to bite us.

[Bart]

Fair point. Both sides are being pretty much equally hypocritical on this issue.

The only thing I would say is that the governmental entities apparently have decided to allow both types of protests, whether by those protesting the shut downs or those protesting Floyd’s death, notwithstanding the potential health risks. Hopefully this won’t come back to bite us.

I hope so as well. Hopefully the fact that we are outside helps.

[ChairmanOfTheBoard]

Fair point. Both sides are being pretty much equally hypocritical on this issue.

bingo. american politics is about convenience.

[Typical Lax Dad]

100k-200k protesters this wk end, packed into newly designated BLM Plaza = the ultimate Covid super spreader event.

Glad we surrendered our freedoms of movement & assembly for the past 3 mos, & destroyed our economy, to pisz it all away, for this.

We just opened up The country like Trump suggested. Did you see the stock market today?

Country is opening up for certain. But in my home state social distancing is still required for alot of things. This is not that.

I seem to recall many here calling the protesters who were protesting the closure of states to be ignorant and selfish. Putting lives in danger. From a public health point of view, how are these Demonstrations any different?

They are not any different. These are worse because it’s more people. We took off the parachute before we landed. I saw people out eating tonight......Too close together. We have no will power. The politicians hope we don’t see the ramifications until post election. We will see if we get lucky.

[Typical Lax Dad]

https://twitter.com/iamsimeonb/status/1 ... 65954?s=21

[ardilla secreta]

Roger Goodell says: We, the National Football League, admit we were wrong for not listening to NFL players earlier...
What Roger Goodell means: I do anything to keep the money rolling.

[old salt]

100k-200k protesters this wk end, packed into newly designated BLM Plaza = the ultimate Covid super spreader event.

Glad we surrendered our freedoms of movement & assembly for the past 3 mos, & destroyed our economy, to pisz it all away, for this.

We just opened up The country like Trump suggested. Did you see the stock market today?

So there's no restrictions on the size of public gatherings, no requirements for social distancing & wearing of masks will not be enforced ?

[6ftstick]

See if anyone listens to public HEALTH PROS again. Pure political hypocrites

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/h ... index.html

Protests against systemic racism, which fosters the disproportionate burden of COVID-19 on Black communities and also perpetuates police violence, must be supported.

Therefore, we propose the following guidance to support public health:

● Support local and state governments in upholding the right to protest and allow protesters to gather.

● Do not disband protests under the guise of maintaining public health for COVID-19 restrictions.

● Advocate that protesters not be arrested or held in confined spaces, including jails or police vans, which are some of the highest-risk areas for COVID-19 transmission.

● Oppose any use of tear gas, smoke, or other respiratory irritants, which could increase risk for COVID- 19 by making the respiratory tract more susceptible to infection, exacerbating existing inflammation, and inducing coughing.

● Demand that law enforcement officials also respect infection prevention recommendations by maintaining distance from protesters and wearing masks.

● Reject messaging that face coverings are motivated by concealment and instead celebrate face coverings as protective of the public's health in the context of COVID-19.

● Prepare for an increased number of infections in the days following a protest. Provide increased access to testing and care for people in the affected communities, especially when they or their family members put themselves at risk by attending protests.

● Support the health of protesters by encouraging the following:
○ Use of face coverings.
○ Distance of at least 6 feet between protesters, where possible.
○ Demonstrating consistently alongside close contacts and moving together as a group, rather than extensively intermingling with multiple groups.
○ Staying at home when sick, and using other platforms to oppose racism for high-risk individuals, and those unable or uncomfortable to attend in person.

● Encourage allies who may wish to facilitate safe demonstrations through the following:
○ Providing masks, hand-washing stations, or hand sanitizer to demonstrators.
○ Providing eye protection, such as face shields or goggles, for protection against COVID-19 and chemical irritants used to disperse crowds.
○ Bringing wrapped, single-serving food or beverages to sustain people protesting.
○ Providing chalk markings or other designations to encourage appropriate distancing between protesters.
○ Supplying ropes, which can be knotted at 6-foot intervals, to allow people to march together while maintaining spacing.
○ Donating to bail funds for protesters

● Listen, and prioritize the needs of Black people as expressed by Black voices.

These are strategies for harm reduction. It is our sincere hope that all participants will be able to follow these suggestions for safer public demonstrations, assisted by allies where possible and necessary, but we recognize that this may not always be the case. Even so, we continue to support demonstrators who are tackling the paramount public health problem of pervasive racism. We express solidarity and gratitude towarddemonstrators who have already taken on enormous personal risk to advocate for their own health, the health of their communities, and the public health of the United States. We pledge our services as allies who share this goal.

This letter is signed by 1,288 public health professionals, infectious diseases professionals, and community stakeholders.

[Brooklyn]

https://twitter.com/iamsimeonb/status/1 ... 65954?s=21

magnificent work of art:





and it leads to the White House which makes it even more significant

[6ftstick]

Mark Levine, Democrat, chairman of NYC council's health committee, on Wednesday instructed those worried that mass gatherings would lead to an uptick in COVID-19 cases to "blame racism" instead of a lack of social distancing.

"Let's be clear about something: if there is a spike in coronavirus cases in the next two weeks, don't blame the protesters," Levine tweeted. "Blame racism."

[old salt]

Yes, your initial post said it was painted on a street “fronting the WH.” It’s not.

The S end of 16th St, now Black Lives Matter Plaza, fronts the WH, looking across Lafayette Sq.

That is incorrect. The south end of 16th St. does not front the White House. The south end of 16th St. terminates at the north edge of Lafayette Square.

The street mural is on 16th St. The southern-most edge of the mural is still on 16th St., fairly close to, but not right at, the intersection with H St. I would estimate that the closest section of the mural is about 750 feet from the closest part of the White House property and probably 1000 feet from the White House, itself.

I am very familiar with this area. I worked at Connecticut and K for 10 years.

I'm also very familiar with the location. It's part of my windshield tour of DC for visitors.
You're nit picking my use of the term "front", as it would apply to the now inaccessible, long closed portion of Penn Av NW, that fronts the WH for it's entire length. The fact remains -- 16th & H is the closest area to the WH in which a large number of protesters can assemble & have a photo op, with the WH backdrop, unless the adjoining stretch of H st is also closed.

I note on videos that the legal green [16 th st] signs are still up, with non-standard [Black Lives Matter Plaza} signs mounted above, indicating this might be a temporary gimmick.

Regarding the fencing of Laf Sq/Park -- if the WH perimeter was indeed breached on the first night of rioting, requiring the Pres & 1st family to be moved to a bunker, extending the perimeter fencing is a prudent precaution given the possibility of 100k-200k protesters nearby who have demonstrated the ability to plan & coordinate their riots & preposition caches of rioting materials.

The Secret Service would likely prefer getting the President & 1st family to Camp David this wk end, but the snaky MSM would portray that as Trump retreating & abandoning a WH under siege, so he has to stay.

[Brooklyn]

See if anyone listens to public HEALTH PROS again. Pure political hypocrites

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/h ... index.html

Protests against systemic racism, which fosters the disproportionate burden of COVID-19 on Black communities and also perpetuates police violence, must be supported.

Therefore, we propose the following guidance to support public health:

● Support local and state governments in upholding the right to protest and allow protesters to gather.

● Do not disband protests under the guise of maintaining public health for COVID-19 restrictions.

● Advocate that protesters not be arrested or held in confined spaces, including jails or police vans, which are some of the highest-risk areas for COVID-19 transmission.

● Oppose any use of tear gas, smoke, or other respiratory irritants, which could increase risk for COVID- 19 by making the respiratory tract more susceptible to infection, exacerbating existing inflammation, and inducing coughing.

...

Interestingly, anti mask right wingers were out in the open without masks in violation of the law. Yet, the police did not attempt to stop their speeches or gatherings, did not open fire or club anyone, and allowed them to flout the law thereby endangering the public without any form of impediment. This in marked contrast to their actions in the peaceful anti police violence marches where they planted agent provocateurs, destroyed public property, slashed tires, harassed people, and engaged in all manner of violence.

As always, the same old double standards applied by cops and the pols. And not one word of complaint by the unpatriotic far right.

[old salt]

Great news. A vaccine is no longer needed. Just decree that racism has been eradicated.

[Brooklyn]

Mark Levine, Democrat, chairman of NYC council's health committee, on Wednesday instructed those worried that mass gatherings would lead to an uptick in COVID-19 cases to "blame racism" instead of a lack of social distancing.

"Let's be clear about something: if there is a spike in coronavirus cases in the next two weeks, don't blame the protesters," Levine tweeted. "Blame racism."

Anti lockdown protests where people went unmasked produced a high number of new corona virus cases. Many of these people have or will die. Yet, I see no protests on the part of right wingers who complained about anti police violence protests.


https://www.newsweek.com/michigan-coron ... ol-1504442

[holmes435]

[6ftstick]

See if anyone listens to public HEALTH PROS again. Pure political hypocrites

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/h ... index.html

Protests against systemic racism, which fosters the disproportionate burden of COVID-19 on Black communities and also perpetuates police violence, must be supported.

Therefore, we propose the following guidance to support public health:

● Support local and state governments in upholding the right to protest and allow protesters to gather.

● Do not disband protests under the guise of maintaining public health for COVID-19 restrictions.

● Advocate that protesters not be arrested or held in confined spaces, including jails or police vans, which are some of the highest-risk areas for COVID-19 transmission.

● Oppose any use of tear gas, smoke, or other respiratory irritants, which could increase risk for COVID- 19 by making the respiratory tract more susceptible to infection, exacerbating existing inflammation, and inducing coughing.

● Demand that law enforcement officials also respect infection prevention recommendations by maintaining distance from protesters and wearing masks.

● Reject messaging that face coverings are motivated by concealment and instead celebrate face coverings as protective of the public's health in the context of COVID-19.

● Prepare for an increased number of infections in the days following a protest. Provide increased access to testing and care for people in the affected communities, especially when they or their family members put themselves at risk by attending protests.

● Support the health of protesters by encouraging the following:
○ Use of face coverings.
○ Distance of at least 6 feet between protesters, where possible.
○ Demonstrating consistently alongside close contacts and moving together as a group, rather than extensively intermingling with multiple groups.
○ Staying at home when sick, and using other platforms to oppose racism for high-risk individuals, and those unable or uncomfortable to attend in person.

● Encourage allies who may wish to facilitate safe demonstrations through the following:
○ Providing masks, hand-washing stations, or hand sanitizer to demonstrators.
○ Providing eye protection, such as face shields or goggles, for protection against COVID-19 and chemical irritants used to disperse crowds.
○ Bringing wrapped, single-serving food or beverages to sustain people protesting.
○ Providing chalk markings or other designations to encourage appropriate distancing between protesters.
○ Supplying ropes, which can be knotted at 6-foot intervals, to allow people to march together while maintaining spacing.
○ Donating to bail funds for protesters

● Listen, and prioritize the needs of Black people as expressed by Black voices.

These are strategies for harm reduction. It is our sincere hope that all participants will be able to follow these suggestions for safer public demonstrations, assisted by allies where possible and necessary, but we recognize that this may not always be the case. Even so, we continue to support demonstrators who are tackling the paramount public health problem of pervasive racism. We express solidarity and gratitude towarddemonstrators who have already taken on enormous personal risk to advocate for their own health, the health of their communities, and the public health of the United States. We pledge our services as allies who share this goal.

This letter is signed by 1,288 public health professionals, infectious diseases professionals, and community stakeholders.

The kicker.

This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders. Those actions not only oppose public health interventions, but are also rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives.

[Typical Lax Dad]

See if anyone listens to public HEALTH PROS again. Pure political hypocrites

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/h ... index.html

Protests against systemic racism, which fosters the disproportionate burden of COVID-19 on Black communities and also perpetuates police violence, must be supported.

Therefore, we propose the following guidance to support public health:

● Support local and state governments in upholding the right to protest and allow protesters to gather.

● Do not disband protests under the guise of maintaining public health for COVID-19 restrictions.

● Advocate that protesters not be arrested or held in confined spaces, including jails or police vans, which are some of the highest-risk areas for COVID-19 transmission.

● Oppose any use of tear gas, smoke, or other respiratory irritants, which could increase risk for COVID- 19 by making the respiratory tract more susceptible to infection, exacerbating existing inflammation, and inducing coughing.

● Demand that law enforcement officials also respect infection prevention recommendations by maintaining distance from protesters and wearing masks.

● Reject messaging that face coverings are motivated by concealment and instead celebrate face coverings as protective of the public's health in the context of COVID-19.

● Prepare for an increased number of infections in the days following a protest. Provide increased access to testing and care for people in the affected communities, especially when they or their family members put themselves at risk by attending protests.

● Support the health of protesters by encouraging the following:
○ Use of face coverings.
○ Distance of at least 6 feet between protesters, where possible.
○ Demonstrating consistently alongside close contacts and moving together as a group, rather than extensively intermingling with multiple groups.
○ Staying at home when sick, and using other platforms to oppose racism for high-risk individuals, and those unable or uncomfortable to attend in person.

● Encourage allies who may wish to facilitate safe demonstrations through the following:
○ Providing masks, hand-washing stations, or hand sanitizer to demonstrators.
○ Providing eye protection, such as face shields or goggles, for protection against COVID-19 and chemical irritants used to disperse crowds.
○ Bringing wrapped, single-serving food or beverages to sustain people protesting.
○ Providing chalk markings or other designations to encourage appropriate distancing between protesters.
○ Supplying ropes, which can be knotted at 6-foot intervals, to allow people to march together while maintaining spacing.
○ Donating to bail funds for protesters

● Listen, and prioritize the needs of Black people as expressed by Black voices.

These are strategies for harm reduction. It is our sincere hope that all participants will be able to follow these suggestions for safer public demonstrations, assisted by allies where possible and necessary, but we recognize that this may not always be the case. Even so, we continue to support demonstrators who are tackling the paramount public health problem of pervasive racism. We express solidarity and gratitude towarddemonstrators who have already taken on enormous personal risk to advocate for their own health, the health of their communities, and the public health of the United States. We pledge our services as allies who share this goal.

This letter is signed by 1,288 public health professionals, infectious diseases professionals, and community stakeholders.

The kicker.

This should not be confused with a permissive stance on all gatherings, particularly protests against stay-home orders. Those actions not only oppose public health interventions, but are also rooted in white nationalism and run contrary to respect for Black lives.

What are you doing to make a difference? Aren’t you a gym teacher?

[Nigel]

rubber "less lethal" bullets shot at homeless man:

How do you know from this photo that the two law enforcement dudes aren't aiming at an oncoming person (not in the pix, to the right of the hydrant, kinda where their guns are pointing) who may be a threat to the wheelchair guy? Right, you don't. So probably not a good idea to jump to conclusions (IMO). Feel free to enlighten me with supporting pix or articles that support your caption, and I'll agree with you about how bad this seems. Otherwise, you're really just guessing.