The United States of America attacks its own people and we have weapons of mass destruction and the people are rebelling in the streets.....sounds like themes we have heard before....We are basically the Congo as I predicted.
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The United States of America attacks its own people and we have weapons of mass destruction and the people are rebelling in the streets.....sounds like themes we have heard before....We are basically the Congo as I predicted.
https://www.vox.com/2020/6/5/21281604/l ... as-protest
US Park Police: It was a “mistake” to say no tear gas was used in Lafayette Square
A spokesperson again said that only smoke canisters and pepper balls were used, but acknowledged that saying “tear gas” was not used was seen as misleading.
A US Park Police spokesperson said in an interview it was a “mistake” to insist in a statement on Tuesday that it didn’t use tear gas the day before in Lafayette Square to disperse a crowd ahead of President Trump’s photo op, explicitly noting that pepper balls shot by officials irritate the eyes and cause tears.
“The point is we admitted to using what we used,” Sgt. Eduardo Delgado said. “I think the term ‘tear gas’ doesn’t even matter anymore. It was a mistake on our part for using ‘tear gas’ because we just assumed people would think CS or CN,” two common forms of tear gas.
Delgado’s call to me Friday was an attempt to clear up a statement the Park Police released Tuesday, the day after reporters on the scene outside the White House said officers used tear gas on peaceful protesters. The statement from acting Chief Gregory Monahan said that no tear gas was used by any federal force present, but that the Park Police itself “employed smoke canisters and pepper balls.”
“I’m not going to say that pepper balls don’t irritate you,” Delgado said, noting they contain capsicum, an irritant derived from pepper plants. “I’m not saying it’s not a tear gas, but I’m just saying we use a pepper ball that shoots a powder.”
On Friday, Delgado maintained their original statement was accurate as it relates to the Park Police: “no tear gas was used by USPP officers.” US Park Police used only those non-lethal weapons as law enforcement forcibly pushed peaceful protesters away from the White House. In fact, he said — as he has before — that his agency doesn’t carry tear gases known as CN, even though canisters of all of them were found on the scene. As for CS, the agency doesn’t carry the specific type found on the Square, but it does carry CS in general.
You have to know what the police were experiencing as it happened. The man might be 75, but that might not have been immediately apparent to the police. He's tall, appears fit & appeared to be carrying a helmet. They were riot police, moving forward in formation. The man, without hesitation, deliberately strode right into the face of a much shorter cop, confronted him, reached out & came into contact with the adjacent cop. Who knows what he said. You could hear "move, move" being shouted. They may have just been trying to push him out of their way & he lost his balance. Maybe next time, he'll wear his helmet when striding into an advancing formation of riot police.
ChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:33 pm minneapolis bans chokeholds.
sounds like a natural reaction, but since we are all talking about understanding one another's feelings, i wonder how street cops feel.
Happens with all Intifadas. He should have been prepared.old salt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:03 pmYou have to know what the police were experiencing as it happened. The man might be 75, but that might not have been immediately apparent to the police. He's tall, appears fit & appeared to be carrying a helmet. They were riot police, moving forward in formation. The man, without hesitation, deliberately strode right into the face of a much shorter cop, confronted him, reached out & came into contact with the adjacent cop. Who knows what he said. You could hear "move, move" being shouted. They may have just been trying to push him out of their way & he lost his balance. Maybe next time, he'll wear his helmet when striding into an advancing formation of riot police.
old salt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:03 pm
You have to know what the police were experiencing as it happened. The man might be 75, but that might not have been immediately apparent to the police. He's tall, appears fit & appeared to be carrying a helmet. They were riot police, moving forward in formation. The man, without hesitation, deliberately strode right into the face of a much shorter cop, confronted him, reached out & came into contact with the adjacent cop. Who knows what he said. You could hear "move, move" being shouted. They may have just been trying to push him out of their way & he lost his balance. Maybe next time, he'll wear his helmet when striding into an advancing formation of riot police.
Brooklyn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:11 pmold salt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:03 pm
You have to know what the police were experiencing as it happened. The man might be 75, but that might not have been immediately apparent to the police. He's tall, appears fit & appeared to be carrying a helmet. They were riot police, moving forward in formation. The man, without hesitation, deliberately strode right into the face of a much shorter cop, confronted him, reached out & came into contact with the adjacent cop. Who knows what he said. You could hear "move, move" being shouted. They may have just been trying to push him out of their way & he lost his balance. Maybe next time, he'll wear his helmet when striding into an advancing formation of riot police.
Jeez, more excuses for the friggin cops. In fact, let's go a step further - obviously, the cop did the old guy a favor by swatting a gnat or tick off of his forehead. This as a guarantee he now won't get Lyme disease or some other dreaded illness. How thoughtful of the cop to do the old timer such a big favor. We should all chip in to finance a large trophy for him and then give the cop the keys to the City as well.
thank you for the input- agreed, as i'd think there might be ways around this, depending on how they define it.Brooklyn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:06 pmChairmanOfTheBoard wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:33 pm minneapolis bans chokeholds.
sounds like a natural reaction, but since we are all talking about understanding one another's feelings, i wonder how street cops feel.
When last I heard, the negotiations for this new rule (one that also requires cops to intervene in case of choke holds and in reporting the use of these dangerous moves) has been agreed upon but not given final approval. Hopefully, final approval will be done soon. But in all honesty, I'm not expecting a change in actual practice any time soon given the criminality of those cops, especially when the cameras are not rolling.
Something's fishy about this one. The entire Emergency Response Team of 57 officers has reportedly resigned from that volunteer duty, in support of the 2 suspended officers. Apparently they remain on the job in their regular capacities.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:20 pmBrooklyn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:11 pmold salt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:03 pm
You have to know what the police were experiencing as it happened. The man might be 75, but that might not have been immediately apparent to the police. He's tall, appears fit & appeared to be carrying a helmet. They were riot police, moving forward in formation. The man, without hesitation, deliberately strode right into the face of a much shorter cop, confronted him, reached out & came into contact with the adjacent cop. Who knows what he said. You could hear "move, move" being shouted. They may have just been trying to push him out of their way & he lost his balance. Maybe next time, he'll wear his helmet when striding into an advancing formation of riot police.
Jeez, more excuses for the friggin cops. In fact, let's go a step further - obviously, the cop did the old guy a favor by swatting a gnat or tick off of his forehead. This as a guarantee he now won't get Lyme disease or some other dreaded illness. How thoughtful of the cop to do the old timer such a big favor. We should all chip in to finance a large trophy for him and then give the cop the keys to the City as well.
It's not a huge percentage of police, Brook. Just like not a huge percentage of protesters are looters and rioters, right? Right?
old salt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:29 pmSomething's fishy about this one. The entire Emergency Response Team of 57 officers has reportedly resigned from that volunteer duty, in support of the 2 suspended officers. Apparently they remain on the job in their regular capacities.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:20 pmBrooklyn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:11 pmold salt wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:03 pm
You have to know what the police were experiencing as it happened. The man might be 75, but that might not have been immediately apparent to the police. He's tall, appears fit & appeared to be carrying a helmet. They were riot police, moving forward in formation. The man, without hesitation, deliberately strode right into the face of a much shorter cop, confronted him, reached out & came into contact with the adjacent cop. Who knows what he said. You could hear "move, move" being shouted. They may have just been trying to push him out of their way & he lost his balance. Maybe next time, he'll wear his helmet when striding into an advancing formation of riot police.
Jeez, more excuses for the friggin cops. In fact, let's go a step further - obviously, the cop did the old guy a favor by swatting a gnat or tick off of his forehead. This as a guarantee he now won't get Lyme disease or some other dreaded illness. How thoughtful of the cop to do the old timer such a big favor. We should all chip in to finance a large trophy for him and then give the cop the keys to the City as well.
It's not a huge percentage of police, Brook. Just like not a huge percentage of protesters are looters and rioters, right? Right?
https://twitter.com/DaveGreber4/status/ ... 2320819203
Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:07 pmThe United States of America attacks its own people and we have weapons of mass destruction and the people are rebelling in the streets.....sounds like themes we have heard before....We are basically the Congo as I predicted.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:33 pmHow are you helping?6ftstick wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 1:22 pm Heres a black life that doesn't seem to matter much!
https://www.nbc15.com/content/news/Indi ... NGQMi2LqRc
YA think the Reverend AL will be at her funeral.
Reports out now indicate that Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy says the crew of the DC NG helos that flew low over protesters on Monday was immediately grounded following the incident. Officials are going to get an interim update on the investigation later today. Turns out that the use of a medical evacuation helicopter appeared to result from the fact that command levels of the District of Columbia National Guard did not realize that the majority of the Lakota helicopters available for law enforcement missions are deployed to the Texas border for Customs and Border Protection missions there to halt illegal immigration. You can't make this sh*t upRedFromMI wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:14 pmhttps://www.vox.com/2020/6/5/21281604/l ... as-protest
US Park Police: It was a “mistake” to say no tear gas was used in Lafayette Square
A spokesperson again said that only smoke canisters and pepper balls were used, but acknowledged that saying “tear gas” was not used was seen as misleading.
A US Park Police spokesperson said in an interview it was a “mistake” to insist in a statement on Tuesday that it didn’t use tear gas the day before in Lafayette Square to disperse a crowd ahead of President Trump’s photo op, explicitly noting that pepper balls shot by officials irritate the eyes and cause tears.
“The point is we admitted to using what we used,” Sgt. Eduardo Delgado said. “I think the term ‘tear gas’ doesn’t even matter anymore. It was a mistake on our part for using ‘tear gas’ because we just assumed people would think CS or CN,” two common forms of tear gas.
Delgado’s call to me Friday was an attempt to clear up a statement the Park Police released Tuesday, the day after reporters on the scene outside the White House said officers used tear gas on peaceful protesters. The statement from acting Chief Gregory Monahan said that no tear gas was used by any federal force present, but that the Park Police itself “employed smoke canisters and pepper balls.”
“I’m not going to say that pepper balls don’t irritate you,” Delgado said, noting they contain capsicum, an irritant derived from pepper plants. “I’m not saying it’s not a tear gas, but I’m just saying we use a pepper ball that shoots a powder.”On Friday, Delgado maintained their original statement was accurate as it relates to the Park Police: “no tear gas was used by USPP officers.” US Park Police used only those non-lethal weapons as law enforcement forcibly pushed peaceful protesters away from the White House. In fact, he said — as he has before — that his agency doesn’t carry tear gases known as CN, even though canisters of all of them were found on the scene. As for CS, the agency doesn’t carry the specific type found on the Square, but it does carry CS in general.
Look at the end of the clip. He's stumbling backward, out of the frame. The clip does not show the entire fall.holmes435 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:40 pm As far as the 75 year old dude goes, there is indeed something fishy.
Police filed a report that he tripped, then video comes out that he's pushed.
Then you have people saying it's fake? The man is literally in the hospital in serious but stable condition. I guess the first responders and doctors were in on it too and hid or didn't find the blood packets.
The man made a bad decision of trying to be nice and hand the police back their helmet.
holmes435 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 05, 2020 3:40 pm As far as the 75 year old dude goes, there is indeed something fishy.
Police filed a report that he tripped, then video comes out that he's pushed.
Then you have people saying it's fake? The man is literally in the hospital in serious but stable condition. I guess the first responders and doctors were in on it too and hid or didn't find the blood packets.
The man made a bad decision of trying to be nice and hand the police back their helmet.