Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[MDlaxfan76]

Marquette rescinds offer for admissions to women’s lax player due to social media posts about the George Floyd death:

https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/5311865002 ... ssion=true

isn't the entire idea to EDUCATE a person like this?

Legally, Marquette made the wrong move with this. Especially with the idiotic press release statement, "all are welcome", just after announcing this young woman is NOT welcome. Do they really think the rest of the world is this stupid?

The above is a very good post.

I would have withdrawn her admission offer just as fast. Same for the Harvard incoming freshmen a couple of years ago who acted like such sexist, foulmouthed jerks to some women in line with them at a pizza parlor during a college visit at which they got drunk... Just happened to be some Harvard women's lax and rugby players...who reported the incident...admissions offers withdrawn.

Admission is a privilege, not a right.

And "Legally", the university has zero problem.

Will it lose them support or interest in attendance among those who think like this girl apparently does? Yup. And that's a business call. Up to them.

[Peter Brown]

Marquette rescinds offer for admissions to women’s lax player due to social media posts about the George Floyd death:

https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/5311865002 ... ssion=true

isn't the entire idea to EDUCATE a person like this?

Legally, Marquette made the wrong move with this. Especially with the idiotic press release statement, "all are welcome", just after announcing this young woman is NOT welcome. Do they really think the rest of the world is this stupid?

The above is a very good post.

I would have withdrawn her admission offer just as fast. Same for the Harvard incoming freshmen a couple of years ago who acted like such sexist, foulmouthed jerks to some women in line with them at a pizza parlor during a college visit at which they got drunk... Just happened to be some Harvard women's lax and rugby players...who reported the incident...admissions offers withdrawn.

Admission is a privilege, not a right.

And "Legally", the university has zero problem.

Will it lose them support or interest in attendance among those who think like this girl apparently does? Yup. And that's a business call. Up to them.

I don't disagree with the fact that it's a business call and up to them, but we tend to have this knee-jerk response to 'cancel' folks with zero second chances...

[old salt]

c) some form of martial law as we go into election season.

Trump is giving the Governors every opportunity to prevent this. Most seem to understand this & are taking the hint.

Which ones do you think are doing anything differently than what they would have done without all the bluster and haranguing, the "hint" as you call it?

It's not as if they weren't already accessing Guard as support. It's not as if any of them are chill with arson and looting.

Seems to me that the ones having the most success in keeping things calm (er) have been those who have embraced the validity of the protests and the underlying roots of the anger. Police chiefs marching with protestors, etc.

You want to see this blow up? Call out the dogs and bull horns, Bull Connor style.
Roll out the tanks and see this country go completely up in flames.

The increase in NG presence in several staes after Trump's blasting Governors on the conference call is not a coincidence.

Trump gave the Governors an ultimatum -- use your law enforcement & National Guard resources to maintain order & protect property, or I'll invoke the Insurrection Act & send in the active duty military to do it.

Trump's is using DC (where he has the additional authority a state Governor holds) as a demonstration project. He's assertively using all Fed law enforcement agencies & the DC NG, while staging active duty Army MP units at Andrews & Ft Belvoir, for contingencies, ...& it's working in DC.

[Peter Brown]

......and what world , or rules, says she doesn't get to call out anyone? First Amedment? She has EVERY right to says what she wants, in that venue especially. Now you are calling her a "half wit". What is wrong with you? such a bully, only your fecesbook mindset has you in binary arsewhole world. Thumbs up for AFAN

So now I don't have the right to say what I want about this situation? And neither does BLM. This lady is the only one who gets to share her opinion, and gets to scream at people calling them hypocrites. And I don't have "EVERY right to say what I want", and call her logic "halfwit?" Do I have the RRR scorecard right here?
Phantoms, ghouls and gobblins.....monsters under the bed. what they hey are you discussing here? more classic NET moving. NO ONE said you did NOT have the right to write what you want. It is only YOU who is objecting to HER.
And this lady isn't a hypocrite for yelling at BLM marchers for not marching in Chicago----all while she sits back and does nothing. Do I have this straight? Again, I will spell it out for you AGAIN. at 5:30 of this video, she asks about the District of Columbia, aka, DC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... e=emb_logo


You're running in circles, with no way out. Let me know when you and your bullying friend think it's ok for BLM to march. I'm sure they CAN'T WAIT to get your approval to march. Again, only in your HEAD (zombie, great zong/R.I.P. ) is anyone saying BLM needs approval to march. Just suggestions of when and where. Simple. like making booze. Making good booze, like a good cause/march.....isn't so simple.



I'm the bully---not this lady, screaming at protesters at the top of her lungs. All while doing nothing. Whew. Good one. You know ,she does NOTHING ? based on what information that you have on this young woman ?

A couple questions:
WHO is this woman........and why is a right wing group editing/publishing this video? Brietbart

Should BLM march and protest in Chicago. For black on black killing. Black on black lives Don't Matter? Is this what YOU are saying AFAN? That BLM would be stupid to march in Baltimore? Do you even know if they ever have ? Does she know?

Here is a strong, admirable, elderly black woman in New York whose store was looted/ransacked/'ruined by BLM folks, and she wants a word with all the leftists on this board:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... store.html

"You tell me Black Lives Matter - you lied': Black woman shames looters for destroying her Brooklyn store and tells them 'get a job'

I'm in love!

[ggait]

and she wants a word with all the leftists on this board:

God wants a word with you Peter Brown. Because you said these things and are sticking by them:

“The preliminary autopsy was just released right now, and the results suggest that the deceased died of causes unrelated to the cop's knee.”

“You are wrong here. The cop did not torture the guy 'to death'. He died of other causes,”

Do your wife and kids know you say and believe such awful things?

[old salt]

The Battle of Lafayette Park & the MSM's walk of shame :

https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/02/me ... t-rioters/

Media Falsely Claimed Violent Riots Were Peaceful And That Tear Gas Was Used Against Rioters

The entire narrative the media glommed onto in lockstep was that Trump was a monster who tear-gassed peaceful protesters to do something meaningless. None of that was true.

Following days of violent riots and looting in cities across the country, Washington, D.C., announced a 7 p.m. curfew on Monday night. About the same time, President Donald Trump addressed the nation from the Rose Garden. Afterward, he walked through Lafayette Park to St. John’s Episcopal Church, which rioters had set on fire the night before. Standing before the church sign, which reads “All are welcome,” President Trump, who previously said he’d be paying his respects to a very special place, held up a Bible.

The speech announcing the country would return to rule of law and protection of civil liberties, the walk through a park that the night before had been given over to rioters, and the visit to the vandalized historic church where every president has worshiped since James Madison, were reassuring to many in the country.

For the media, however, these actions were further proof that Orange Man Bad is literally the worst, restoring rule of law is criminal, and standing in front of a church holding a Bible is an assault on the American conscience. They focused on how the Park Police had cleared the area ahead of the city-wide curfew declared by D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser.

Facts were no barrier to their narrative. They spun a tale of violent, jack-booted cops running rampant through the streets over innocent docile protesters, using tear gas to clear the area. It turns out none of that was true.

Every single major media outlet falsely reported that Park Police were unprovoked when they used “tear gas” to clear the area. If any of that were true, it might mark the first time in history that cops without gas masks launched tear gas in an area that the president of the United States easily walked through minutes later.

After thousands of false tweets, print stories, and broadcast stories to the contrary, local journalist Neal Augenstein of WTOP reported that a Park Police source said “tear gas was never used — instead smoke canisters were deployed, which don’t have an uncomfortable irritant in them.” Further, the source said the crowd was dispersed because of projectiles being thrown by the “peaceful protesters” at the Park Police and because “peaceful protesters” had climbed on top of a structure in Lafayette Park that had been burned the prior night.

Sgt. Eduardo Delgado, the public information officer for the Park Police, confirmed the agency did not use tear gas. And later this afternoon, United States Park Police acting Chief Gregory T. Monahan exploded the entire false narrative:

On Monday, June 1, the USPP worked with the United States Secret Service to have temporary fencing installed inside Lafayette Park. At approximately 6:33 pm, violent protestors on H Street NW began throwing projectiles including bricks, frozen water bottles and caustic liquids. The protestors also climbed onto a historic building at the north end of Lafayette Park that was destroyed by arson days prior. Intelligence had revealed calls for violence against the police, and officers found caches of glass bottles, baseball bats and metal poles hidden along the street.

To curtail the violence that was underway, the USPP, following established policy, issued three warnings over a loudspeaker to alert demonstrators on H Street to evacuate the area. Horse mounted patrol, Civil Disturbance Units and additional personnel were used to clear the area. As many of the protestors became more combative, continued to throw projectiles, and attempted to grab officers’ weapons, officers then employed the use of smoke canisters and pepper balls. No tear gas was used by USPP officers or other assisting law enforcement partners to close the area at Lafayette Park. Subsequently, the fence was installed.

Prior to getting the actual facts, nearly every major media outlet falsely reported that canisters of tear gas, not smoke canisters, were used against peaceful protesters. The false story spread internationally despite its lack of evidence. Here are just a few of the uncountable examples.
- Reuters published a video it claimed showed U.S. Park Police using tear gas. The video did not show any such thing.
- A Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times reporter tweeted out an NPR piece headlined “Park Police Tear Gas Peaceful Protesters To Clear Way For Trump Church Photo-Op.”
- PBS’s Yamiche Alcindor reported erroneously that she was “still processing that I saw peaceful protesters teargassed outside the White House so Pres Trump could walk to St. John’s Episcopal Church.”
- The Washington Post ran an article falsely headlined, “Inside the push to tear-gas protesters ahead of a Trump photo op,” authored by Ashley Parker, Josh Dawsey, and Rebecca Tan. Washington Post reporter Hannah Natanson claimed Tan “was tear-gassed in reporting this story.” Gender and family issues reporter Samantha Schmidt retweeted that claim, adding, “There were five of us Post reporters — all young women — near Lafayette Square when federal officers started spraying gas and rubber bullets.”
- The New York Times falsely headlined its article, “Tear Gas Clears Path for Trump to Visit Church.” An accompanying video showing the result of smoke canisters was falsely headlined:
“His walk came after riot police and National Guard troops used tear gas and flash grenades to clear a path through a peaceful protest in a city park,” the New York Times falsely reported about both the use of tear gas and whether the protests were peaceful. They were not.
- In response to Augenstein, Garrett Haake claimed, “Tear gas was definitely used, and park police can’t deny that.” Asked what made him sure about his claim, he cited his “experience. the burning sensation it caused in my lungs, & my retired marine security.”
- MSNBC falsely reported, “Trump Visits Church After Police Clear Protesters With Tear Gas.”
- ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos reported the doubly false “Police use tear gas, push back peaceful protesters for Trump church visit.”
- The Washington Post’s dramatic Philip Rucker falsely claimed in a tweet that “Military police fire tear gas at peaceful protesters to clear street in front of St. John’s.”
- Peter Baker of the New York Times falsely reported on the security threats and how they were removed, saying, “police and troops have moved against peaceful protesters with tear gas and flash bangs.”
- Here the New York Times falsely claimed the protesters were peaceful and that tear gas was used against them:
- Brett LoGiurato, the senior editor of Wharton Press peddled the tear gas lie and instructed his political allies to censor the news:
- Maggie Haberman of the New York Times also peddled the lies about tear gas and peaceful protesters:
NPR hit a trifecta by falsely reporting about tear gas, falsely reporting about peaceful protesting, and as a bonus downplaying the arson against the church:
- Religion News Service’s Jack Jenkins got the story wrong.
- The Daily Beast/CNN’s Jackie Kucinich also falsely reported about peaceful protests and tear gas. She wrote, “This was a peaceful protest. And they are using tear gas. In the United States. In front of the White House. They tear gassed peacefully protesting and shot rubber bullets at people so President Trump could walk across the park to St. Johns on television. Correction …he had protesters tear gassed to walk to St. Johns, hold up a Bible in front of the church, usher in advisors for the photo-op. And then … walk home.” Whatever the previous sentences of fact-free emoting are, they’re not journalism.
- Jonathan Swan of Axios claimed an anonymous “senior White House official told Axios that when they saw the tear gas clearing the crowd for Trump to walk to the church with his entourage: ‘I’ve never been more ashamed. I’m really honestly disgusted. I’m sick to my stomach. And they’re all celebrating it. They’re very very proud of themselves.’” To state the obvious: this source seems extremely poorly informed and not worth granting anonymity to.
- Former Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri and Fox News contributor Jonah Goldberg both fell for and used the false reporting as a means of critiquing former Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin for complimenting Trump’s visit to St. John’s. Former Obama ambassador Michael McFaul, who has repeatedly spread false stories related to the Russia collusion hoax, also fell for this story.

The entire narrative the media glommed onto in lockstep was that Trump was a monster who tear-gassed peaceful protesters to do something meaningless. None of that was true. But it took a day of reporting to get the truth out, long after the lie took hold.

In related news, despite or perhaps because of the media hysteria, polls show overwhelming majorities of Americans support the use of the National Guard and the military to bring peace to the cities the media claim aren’t being targeted by violent riots.

[Typical Lax Dad]

[Typical Lax Dad]

[old salt]

c) some form of martial law as we go into election season.

Trump is giving the Governors every opportunity to prevent this. Most seem to understand this & are taking the hint.

Seems to me that the ones having the most success in keeping things calm (er) have been those who have embraced the validity of the protests and the underlying roots of the anger. Police chiefs marching with protestors, etc.

You want to see this blow up? Call out the dogs and bull horns, Bull Connor style.
Roll out the tanks and see this country go completely up in flames.

There's plenty of time for the police to take a knee & sing kumbaya with the legit peaceful protesters before the curfew starts.

When the curfew starts, the streets need to be clear, order maintained & property protected.

This is no more restrictive than the covid lockdowns we've been enduring.

[a fan]

Here is a strong, admirable, elderly black woman in New York whose store was looted/ransacked/'ruined by BLM folks, and she wants a word with all the leftists on this board:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... store.html

"You tell me Black Lives Matter - you lied': Black woman shames looters for destroying her Brooklyn store and tells them 'get a job'

I'm in love!

Pete, if you think that's bad?

That's nothing. Registered Republicans damaged an entire block of buildings in Denver over the weekend.

[a fan]

This is no more restrictive than the covid lockdowns we've been enduring.

They didn't have curfews for covid, or for those who were protesting covid lockdowns.

But these are different circumstances because of the property loss and violence.

The purpose of the curfew is to thin the herd, making the situation more manageable. But MDlax is right----if cities take a hard line, my opinion is that it will prolong the protests. Here in Denver, folks were violating the curfew, but were allowed to march and protest peacefully.

[RedFromMI]

The Battle of Lafayette Park & the MSM's walk of shame :

https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/02/me ... t-rioters/

(omitted details from article)

The "pepper balls" are actually eye irritants classified as a kind of tear gas. (According to the CDC website as of this morning at least). Mix that in with the smoke reporters who are experienced in seeing tear gas deployed are going to call it just that...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... LBV5FESQX4

While clearing out the street near St. John’s Episcopal Church on Monday night, authorities shoved protesters down with their shields, fired rubber bullets directly at them, released gas and set off flash-bang shells in the middle of the crowd.

But at a news briefing Wednesday, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany denied that law enforcement officers took some of those actions.

“No tear gas was used and no rubber bullets were used,” McEnany said -- even though footage from the scene shows protesters being shot with rubber bullets. The chemical compounds used by authorities Monday night also fit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s definition of tear gas.

Some protesters on the street near the White House on Monday threw water bottles, while many simply stood with their arms raised. But McEnany described the largely peaceful crowd as “rioters” and said that authorities “had no other choice than in that moment to act and make sure that they were safe and that the perimeter was pushed back."

[RedFromMI]

Marquette rescinds offer for admissions to women’s lax player due to social media posts about the George Floyd death:

https://amp.jsonline.com/amp/5311865002 ... ssion=true

isn't the entire idea to EDUCATE a person like this?

Legally, Marquette made the wrong move with this. Especially with the idiotic press release statement, "all are welcome", just after announcing this young woman is NOT welcome. Do they really think the rest of the world is this stupid?

The above is a very good post.

I would have withdrawn her admission offer just as fast. Same for the Harvard incoming freshmen a couple of years ago who acted like such sexist, foulmouthed jerks to some women in line with them at a pizza parlor during a college visit at which they got drunk... Just happened to be some Harvard women's lax and rugby players...who reported the incident...admissions offers withdrawn.

Admission is a privilege, not a right.

And "Legally", the university has zero problem.

Will it lose them support or interest in attendance among those who think like this girl apparently does? Yup. And that's a business call. Up to them.

I have to agree - even though MU could have used it as a teaching moment, the pushback they would have received from keeping her on would far outweigh and tiny negative publicity they get from dumping her.

[old salt]

This is no more restrictive than the covid lockdowns we've been enduring.

They didn't have curfews for covid, or for those who were protesting covid lockdowns.

But these are different circumstances because of the property loss and violence.

The purpose of the curfew is to thin the herd, making the situation more manageable. But MDlax is right----if cities take a hard line, my opinion is that it will prolong the protests. Here in Denver, folks were violating the curfew, but were allowed to march and protest peacefully.

I say again -- the curfews are no more restrictive that the covid lockdowns we've been enduring.

The peaceful protests are counter to the prohibitions & restrictions on public gatherings still in effect.

The peaceful protests make a mockery of social distancing & legitimize disregarding it.

[a fan]

I'm in agreement, OS. I didn't couch my words well.....just pointing out that States didn't have a timed curfew, which is irrelevant to your overall point.

I'm HOPING that the hospitals aren't filled in cities like mine in a month or so with COVID patients.


But that doesn't mean I don't understand why they are protesting.

[Brooklyn]

Forum right wing delusionals continue to say BLM, Antifa, and the like are causing the violence we've seen on TV these past 2 weeks. As with the old LP forum they post endless lies which they fail to back up with any proof. They would do themselves a big favor it they could actually present some evidence to prove their delusional claims.

[old salt]

These 7 year olds were peacefully protesting in their trailer park :

[youthathletics]

And your evidence it is from a rag paper, witha BS CHS (Confidential Human Source) that the FBI will not acknowledge. Are you out of tin foil yet?

[a fan]

Should BLM march and protest in Chicago. For black on black killing. Black on black lives Don't Matter? Is this what YOU are saying AFAN? That BLM would be stupid to march in Baltimore? Do you even know if they ever have ? Does she know?

I've tried, in vain, to explain this to you, and I've run out of ways to do it. When I try to rephrase my point, or use other examples to help you to understand my point, you yell at me about whataboutisms or moving goalposts.

So for the last time: I'm making fun of this woman for screaming at protesters that they are hypocrites, and not protesting in the right cities. She asked, and I'm paraphrasing, why they aren't protesting in Chicago.

This complaint doesn't make any sense and I've told you multiple times as to why. That it. Nothing more.

Don't know what else to do here to bridge the communication gap you and I have when typing to one another.

[Nigel]

The Battle of Lafayette Park & the MSM's walk of shame :

https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/02/me ... t-rioters/

(omitted details from article)

The "pepper balls" are actually eye irritants classified as a kind of tear gas. (According to the CDC website as of this morning at least). Mix that in with the smoke reporters who are experienced in seeing tear gas deployed are going to call it just that...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... LBV5FESQX4

While clearing out the street near St. John’s Episcopal Church on Monday night, authorities shoved protesters down with their shields, fired rubber bullets directly at them, released gas and set off flash-bang shells in the middle of the crowd.

But at a news briefing Wednesday, White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany denied that law enforcement officers took some of those actions.

“No tear gas was used and no rubber bullets were used,” McEnany said -- even though footage from the scene shows protesters being shot with rubber bullets. The chemical compounds used by authorities Monday night also fit the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s definition of tear gas.

Some protesters on the street near the White House on Monday threw water bottles, while many simply stood with their arms raised. But McEnany described the largely peaceful crowd as “rioters” and said that authorities “had no other choice than in that moment to act and make sure that they were safe and that the perimeter was pushed back."

The media chose political messaging over factual reporting. And it’s not nitpicking to demand precision on these things from an industry that claims to report accurately. Each falsehood by the media was used in a direction that was hostile to those Americans who don’t share the dominant media position that America is irredeemably evil.

For people who are adamant that the violent riot portion of protests be downplayed or ignored, even pepper balls are an egregious violation. But for those who see how millions of mistruths pile upon each other to create false narratives that always go in the same political direction, facts still matter and are worth fighting for.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/06/03/af ... identical/