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Good guy with gun 1 Bad guy 0
South Philly gunstore owner guarding shop overnight shoots, kills armed looter

A 67-year-old South Philadelphia gun store owner shot and killed a man he said was looting his business for what he suspects is the second night in a row.



Greg Isabella, who owns the Firing Line Inc, one of the oldest gun shops in the city, said he saw a group of looters on his surveillance video breaking a padlock on his gate using bolt cutters and descending on his shop in the early hours of Tuesday morning.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/philadelphia ... med-looter
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Brooklyn wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:51 pm
laxman3221 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:44 pm
Looter to running puzzies in 1second

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Florida sheriff urges residents to shoot looters who break into their homes



A Florida sheriff recommended homeowners shoot any looters who attempt to break into their homes during a press briefing Monday.

“I would tell them, if you value your life, they probably shouldn’t do that in Polk County," Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said, according to Fox 13 Tampa Bay. “Because the people of Polk County like guns, they have guns, I encourage them to own guns, and they’re going to be in their homes tonight with their guns loaded.”
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laxman3221 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:43 pm
Keep those blinders on.

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laxman3221 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:54 pm

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Riots and violence intensifying in cities. Threats of
Moving to the suburbs.

Gun sales through the roof.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:38 am Riots and violence intensifying in cities. Threats of
Moving to the suburbs.

Gun sales through the roof.


I would tell any American, conservative liberal or middle of the road, be sure you own a legally-purchased gun (handguns are fine; Glock 19 the best for beginners; roughly $600), get trained to handle it, keep it locked but very accessible, and be prepared to use it if necessary. 9mm has the least kickback and I'd use hollow points as the best bullet to stop an intruder. If you feel comfortable, an AR-15 is even better for home defense should you find yourself against a group of persons looking to burn your house down.

The Antifa d-bags and the far left are not properly trained in weapons other than knives, bricks, fire, and mobs, so if they come into your town and are looking for trouble, please first know your individual state rights such as Stand Your Ground. Many blue state governors will side with Antifa even if you are protecting your family.

Antifa are no different than the Manson family and have as few morals. These riots are likely to peter out, but the underlying danger will remain long after the far left exhausts its nightly criminality this go-round.

Please get educated on how to defend yourself and your family.

meanwhile, voters will laugh at the next gun restriction campaign. Every event, no matter how horrible, always ends up favoring America in the end. And this one too will be that way. No more #2A undoing is one of the more hopeful outcomes here.
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laxman3221 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:54 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:51 pm
laxman3221 wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:44 pm
Looter to running puzzies in 1second

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Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:24 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:38 am Riots and violence intensifying in cities. Threats of
Moving to the suburbs.

Gun sales through the roof.


I would tell any American, conservative liberal or middle of the road, be sure you own a legally-purchased gun (handguns are fine; Glock 19 the best for beginners; roughly $600), get trained to handle it, keep it locked but very accessible, and be prepared to use it if necessary. 9mm has the least kickback and I'd use hollow points as the best bullet to stop an intruder. If you feel comfortable, an AR-15 is even better for home defense should you find yourself against a group of persons looking to burn your house down.

The Antifa d-bags and the far left are not properly trained in weapons other than knives, bricks, fire, and mobs, so if they come into your town and are looking for trouble, please first know your individual state rights such as Stand Your Ground. Many blue state governors will side with Antifa even if you are protecting your family.

Antifa are no different than the Manson family and have as few morals. These riots are likely to peter out, but the underlying danger will remain long after the far left exhausts its nightly criminality this go-round.

Please get educated on how to defend yourself and your family.

meanwhile, voters will laugh at the next gun restriction campaign. Every event, no matter how horrible, always ends up favoring America in the end. And this one too will be that way. No more #2A undoing is one of the more hopeful outcomes here.
I am still waiting for some antifa punk to be caught red handed and beaten into a bloody pulp with every bone in his/her body shattered. Maybe when there are consequences for their actions they will begin to understand. The first time one of these skinny ass little white boys actually has to pay the price for their actions or witnesses the price you have to pay for being an anarchist. They will go back to jerking off to porn in their dorm rooms and eating bad delivery pizza.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:42 am
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:24 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:38 am Riots and violence intensifying in cities. Threats of
Moving to the suburbs.

Gun sales through the roof.


I would tell any American, conservative liberal or middle of the road, be sure you own a legally-purchased gun (handguns are fine; Glock 19 the best for beginners; roughly $600), get trained to handle it, keep it locked but very accessible, and be prepared to use it if necessary. 9mm has the least kickback and I'd use hollow points as the best bullet to stop an intruder. If you feel comfortable, an AR-15 is even better for home defense should you find yourself against a group of persons looking to burn your house down.

The Antifa d-bags and the far left are not properly trained in weapons other than knives, bricks, fire, and mobs, so if they come into your town and are looking for trouble, please first know your individual state rights such as Stand Your Ground. Many blue state governors will side with Antifa even if you are protecting your family.

Antifa are no different than the Manson family and have as few morals. These riots are likely to peter out, but the underlying danger will remain long after the far left exhausts its nightly criminality this go-round.

Please get educated on how to defend yourself and your family.

meanwhile, voters will laugh at the next gun restriction campaign. Every event, no matter how horrible, always ends up favoring America in the end. And this one too will be that way. No more #2A undoing is one of the more hopeful outcomes here.
I am still waiting for some antifa punk to be caught red handed and beaten into a bloody pulp with every bone in his/her body shattered. Maybe when there are consequences for their actions they will begin to understand. The first time one of these skinny ass little white boys actually has to pay the price for their actions or witnesses the price you have to pay for being an anarchist. They will go back to jerking off to porn in their dorm rooms and eating bad delivery pizza.


I agree, but Antifa like to mob up not travel solo, so the matter of a solo beatdown is in doubt.

In NYC, if you defend yourself against Antifa, de Blasio is going to side with the anarchist, not you. And if you want a concealed carry in NYC, be prepared to fork over $250,000 to de Blasio to get it (even then it's not worth it, because de Blasio will simply side with the Antifa d-bag if you go to trial - and you guys wonder why I knock Democrats all the time, Elected Dem leaders are on the side of the criminals and the evidence is not in doubt!).

I believe one of these days they will indeed travel to a leafy suburb and try out their tactics, and that's where the trouble starts. People in the 'burb's won't simply watch their stores burn down; if Antifa tries anything in a red state 'burb, there will be way more damage to them than a simple beatdown.
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Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:24 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:38 am Riots and violence intensifying in cities. Threats of
Moving to the suburbs.

Gun sales through the roof.


I would tell any American, conservative liberal or middle of the road, be sure you own a legally-purchased gun (handguns are fine; Glock 19 the best for beginners; roughly $600), get trained to handle it, keep it locked but very accessible, and be prepared to use it if necessary. 9mm has the least kickback and I'd use hollow points as the best bullet to stop an intruder. If you feel comfortable, an AR-15 is even better for home defense should you find yourself against a group of persons looking to burn your house down.

The Antifa d-bags and the far left are not properly trained in weapons other than knives, bricks, fire, and mobs, so if they come into your town and are looking for trouble, please first know your individual state rights such as Stand Your Ground. Many blue state governors will side with Antifa even if you are protecting your family.

Antifa are no different than the Manson family and have as few morals. These riots are likely to peter out, but the underlying danger will remain long after the far left exhausts its nightly criminality this go-round.

Please get educated on how to defend yourself and your family.

meanwhile, voters will laugh at the next gun restriction campaign. Every event, no matter how horrible, always ends up favoring America in the end. And this one too will be that way. No more #2A undoing is one of the more hopeful outcomes here.
The Antifa crowd isn't traveling to the burbs. There are WAAY too many thing NOt in their favor. They can't disappear in a crowd and they have no clue what a random homeowner is packing. Not smart.

I don't recommend an AR for home defense. Those rounds can travel for miles before being stopped. For the shotgun enthusiasts, 00 Buck works great. Drop a larger-than-deer-sized target from 50 yards. And from a home defense standpoint, it's great. Good stopping power and if you're in a residential area you'll be less likely to hit bystanders in nearby houses as it wont travel through drwall as far as AR 556.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:06 am
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:24 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:38 am Riots and violence intensifying in cities. Threats of
Moving to the suburbs.

Gun sales through the roof.


I would tell any American, conservative liberal or middle of the road, be sure you own a legally-purchased gun (handguns are fine; Glock 19 the best for beginners; roughly $600), get trained to handle it, keep it locked but very accessible, and be prepared to use it if necessary. 9mm has the least kickback and I'd use hollow points as the best bullet to stop an intruder. If you feel comfortable, an AR-15 is even better for home defense should you find yourself against a group of persons looking to burn your house down.

The Antifa d-bags and the far left are not properly trained in weapons other than knives, bricks, fire, and mobs, so if they come into your town and are looking for trouble, please first know your individual state rights such as Stand Your Ground. Many blue state governors will side with Antifa even if you are protecting your family.

Antifa are no different than the Manson family and have as few morals. These riots are likely to peter out, but the underlying danger will remain long after the far left exhausts its nightly criminality this go-round.

Please get educated on how to defend yourself and your family.

meanwhile, voters will laugh at the next gun restriction campaign. Every event, no matter how horrible, always ends up favoring America in the end. And this one too will be that way. No more #2A undoing is one of the more hopeful outcomes here.
I don't recommend an AR for home defense. Those rounds can travel for miles before being stopped. For the shotgun enthusiasts, 00 Buck works great. Drop a larger than deer-sized target from 50 yards. And from a home defense standpoint, it's great. Good stoppign power and if you're in a residential area you'll be less likely to hit bystanders in nearby houses.
Double aught is a great choice. If you want to get up close and personal a 12 gauge rifled slug works the best. If you cut the antifa punk in half with your first shot the rest of the skinny white boy punks will head back to their dorm rooms to jerk off to online porn and play video games. The blood and gore might diminish their craving for pizza. :)
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#4 buck is a good option if you're in close quarters. 00 probably more versatile with the range of up to 50 yards.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:19 am #4 buck is a good option if you're in close quarters. 00 probably more versatile with the range of up to 50 yards.
Then you have to patch up all those holes in the drywall. You can wash the blood off and cover over with one good coat of paint. Rifled slug is always the best drop em in their tracks option.
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cradleandshoot wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:42 am

I am still waiting for some antifa punk to be caught red handed and beaten into a bloody pulp with every bone in his/her body shattered. Maybe when there are consequences for their actions they will begin to understand. The first time one of these skinny ass little white boys actually has to pay the price for their actions or witnesses the price you have to pay for being an anarchist. They will go back to jerking off to porn in their dorm rooms and eating bad delivery pizza.


You'll be waiting for a long while, Pal. Nobody can find a single Antifa member in any of this:


https://www.cantonrep.com/ZZ/news/20200 ... -us-cities


More likely, you will find some disguised white supremacist whose activities are financed by Republicans.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:06 am
The Antifa crowd isn't traveling to the burbs. There are WAAY too many thing NOt in their favor. They can't disappear in a crowd and they have no clue what a random homeowner is packing. Not smart.

I don't recommend an AR for home defense. Those rounds can travel for miles before being stopped. For the shotgun enthusiasts, 00 Buck works great. Drop a larger-than-deer-sized target from 50 yards. And from a home defense standpoint, it's great. Good stopping power and if you're in a residential area you'll be less likely to hit bystanders in nearby houses as it wont travel through drwall as far as AR 556.
ARs are actually a great platform for home defense. .223 / 5.56 is a lightweight round. Even though it's going faster than most pistol or shotgun rounds, as soon as it hits something (drywall, armed burglar), it's gonna start tumbling and lose a ton of its energy. Slower, heavier rounds, especially full metal jacket, have a greater chance of continuing through to your neighbor's house. ARs have a standard 30 capacity magazine vs. maybe 7 in a pump action or semi-auto shotgun or 10-15 in a pistol. Sight radius is longer so it's easier to aim accurately. It's easy to set up with a shorter barrel and a suppressor as well for indoor firing when you don't have any ear pro on. Depending on what parts you put on, it can also be very light. Recoil is also more manageable vs. many other guns.

JHP rounds also help prevent over-penetration and reduce the chance of going through the wall to the neighbor's house and are available in rifle and pistol calibers, including .223.



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The tumbling of the 556 is what concerns me personally with using it as home defense where I am. Seen it go through multiple car doors. And once it hits that first object, where it tumbles is anyone's guess. But that's just my opinion/preference, specific to my situation. Lots of kids in our neighborhood. Love the OO and #4 - Good stopping power, and highly accurate from up to 50 yards. That's more than sufficient where I am with suburbia sized .25 to .50 lots.
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holmes435 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:58 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:06 am
The Antifa crowd isn't traveling to the burbs. There are WAAY too many thing NOt in their favor. They can't disappear in a crowd and they have no clue what a random homeowner is packing. Not smart.

I don't recommend an AR for home defense. Those rounds can travel for miles before being stopped. For the shotgun enthusiasts, 00 Buck works great. Drop a larger-than-deer-sized target from 50 yards. And from a home defense standpoint, it's great. Good stopping power and if you're in a residential area you'll be less likely to hit bystanders in nearby houses as it wont travel through drwall as far as AR 556.
ARs are actually a great platform for home defense. .223 / 5.56 is a lightweight round. Even though it's going faster than most pistol or shotgun rounds, as soon as it hits something (drywall, armed burglar), it's gonna start tumbling and lose a ton of its energy. Slower, heavier rounds, especially full metal jacket, have a greater chance of continuing through to your neighbor's house. ARs have a standard 30 capacity magazine vs. maybe 7 in a pump action or semi-auto shotgun or 10-15 in a pistol. Sight radius is longer so it's easier to aim accurately. It's easy to set up with a shorter barrel and a suppressor as well for indoor firing when you don't have any ear pro on. Depending on what parts you put on, it can also be very light. Recoil is also more manageable vs. many other guns.

JHP rounds also help prevent over-penetration and reduce the chance of going through the wall to the neighbor's house and are available in rifle and pistol calibers, including .223.



ANTIFA is a bogeyman.


The only people who ever say something like this are the people whose lives have not yet been impacted by Antifa.

Antifa at the end of the day are parent basement ne'er do wells who need a gang to belong to, and they find confidence in the mob. One day they will make the wrong introduction, and then you'll be back on this thread crying how unfair it is that someone could own a gun and also defend themselves and their families against the far left agitators called Antifa, neglecting to mention that on June 3 you said they didn't exist. Mark my words, as sure as the sun will come up tomorrow.
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Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:54 pm
holmes435 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:58 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:06 am
The Antifa crowd isn't traveling to the burbs. There are WAAY too many thing NOt in their favor. They can't disappear in a crowd and they have no clue what a random homeowner is packing. Not smart.

I don't recommend an AR for home defense. Those rounds can travel for miles before being stopped. For the shotgun enthusiasts, 00 Buck works great. Drop a larger-than-deer-sized target from 50 yards. And from a home defense standpoint, it's great. Good stopping power and if you're in a residential area you'll be less likely to hit bystanders in nearby houses as it wont travel through drwall as far as AR 556.
ARs are actually a great platform for home defense. .223 / 5.56 is a lightweight round. Even though it's going faster than most pistol or shotgun rounds, as soon as it hits something (drywall, armed burglar), it's gonna start tumbling and lose a ton of its energy. Slower, heavier rounds, especially full metal jacket, have a greater chance of continuing through to your neighbor's house. ARs have a standard 30 capacity magazine vs. maybe 7 in a pump action or semi-auto shotgun or 10-15 in a pistol. Sight radius is longer so it's easier to aim accurately. It's easy to set up with a shorter barrel and a suppressor as well for indoor firing when you don't have any ear pro on. Depending on what parts you put on, it can also be very light. Recoil is also more manageable vs. many other guns.

JHP rounds also help prevent over-penetration and reduce the chance of going through the wall to the neighbor's house and are available in rifle and pistol calibers, including .223.



ANTIFA is a bogeyman.


The only people who ever say something like this are the people whose lives have not yet been impacted by Antifa.

Antifa at the end of the day are parent basement ne'er do wells who need a gang to belong to, and they find confidence in the mob. One day they will make the wrong introduction, and then you'll be back on this thread crying how unfair it is that someone could own a gun and also defend themselves and their families against the far left agitators called Antifa, neglecting to mention that on June 3 you said they didn't exist. Mark my words, as sure as the sun will come up tomorrow.
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holmes435 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:02 pm
Peter Brown wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:54 pm
holmes435 wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:58 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Wed Jun 03, 2020 11:06 am
The Antifa crowd isn't traveling to the burbs. There are WAAY too many thing NOt in their favor. They can't disappear in a crowd and they have no clue what a random homeowner is packing. Not smart.

I don't recommend an AR for home defense. Those rounds can travel for miles before being stopped. For the shotgun enthusiasts, 00 Buck works great. Drop a larger-than-deer-sized target from 50 yards. And from a home defense standpoint, it's great. Good stopping power and if you're in a residential area you'll be less likely to hit bystanders in nearby houses as it wont travel through drwall as far as AR 556.
ARs are actually a great platform for home defense. .223 / 5.56 is a lightweight round. Even though it's going faster than most pistol or shotgun rounds, as soon as it hits something (drywall, armed burglar), it's gonna start tumbling and lose a ton of its energy. Slower, heavier rounds, especially full metal jacket, have a greater chance of continuing through to your neighbor's house. ARs have a standard 30 capacity magazine vs. maybe 7 in a pump action or semi-auto shotgun or 10-15 in a pistol. Sight radius is longer so it's easier to aim accurately. It's easy to set up with a shorter barrel and a suppressor as well for indoor firing when you don't have any ear pro on. Depending on what parts you put on, it can also be very light. Recoil is also more manageable vs. many other guns.

JHP rounds also help prevent over-penetration and reduce the chance of going through the wall to the neighbor's house and are available in rifle and pistol calibers, including .223.



ANTIFA is a bogeyman.


The only people who ever say something like this are the people whose lives have not yet been impacted by Antifa.

Antifa at the end of the day are parent basement ne'er do wells who need a gang to belong to, and they find confidence in the mob. One day they will make the wrong introduction, and then you'll be back on this thread crying how unfair it is that someone could own a gun and also defend themselves and their families against the far left agitators called Antifa, neglecting to mention that on June 3 you said they didn't exist. Mark my words, as sure as the sun will come up tomorrow.
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Sure!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articl ... out-antifa

Is the BBC cigar to your liking?

https://quillette.com/tag/antifa/

Quillette?

https://quillette.com/2019/07/03/how-an ... -violence/

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