Race in America - Riots Explode in Chicago

[Typical Lax Dad]

Party has EVERYTHING to do with this story.

Suddenly everybody is an expert. Except for one or two folks nobody on this forum has lived anywhere near Minnesota. But somehow they are "experts".

Let's cut the partisan bullshtt. Nobody here has condemned neither the Dems nor Reps. This problem is systemic as I said before. You want to express an opinion, fine. But please don't act as if you know what the hell is really going on here.

A lot of experts. I have learned a lot reading the posts.

[ChairmanOfTheBoard]

i agree the problem is systemic.

in other news- jeebus, zuckerberg is at an all-new low here, for fullofsh1tness. he's getting near the depths of DJ Trump!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/29/tech/fac ... index.html

[Brooklyn]

A lot of experts. I have learned a lot reading the posts.

Yeah, we all learn a lot from a brilliant comment like this: "Why do I mention Democrats? Because they are throwing gasoline on a situation they have zero clue about other than the video, which is frankly par for the course for the mentality of the average Democrat these days; it's all woke narrative to get to the end, the end being socialism." As with so many of his brilliant posts, PB fails to back it up. Just another in a long series of witless nonsense in which he continually spews hate for Democrats.

By contrast, his hero tRUMP pours gasoline into the fire through his hate filled rants some of which had to be deleted by social media because they are so inflammatory. Naturally he has nothing to say about his hero's incessant hate and baiting.

[ToastDunk]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CAyW64NAe ... y6yrs6nrdh

[old salt]

Very considerate that the liquor store being looted is ADA compliant.
A looter in an elec scooter chair just wheeled off with a couple cases.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Very considerate that the liquor store being looted is ADA compliant.
A looter in an elec scooter chair just wheeled off with a couple cases.

I saw one the other day. It may have been him.

[cradleandshoot]

Similarities in police mistake/negligence/stupidity/overreaction leading to tragic death. Similarities in 3rd degree murder and manslaughter charges (led to 2019 conviction in Justine Rusczyk Damond case).

Not similar in rioting, burning your own neighborhoods, looting, and general destruction.

Nice job rioters. Hard not agree with this tweet (IMO).

+1

[cradleandshoot]

This cop tortured the guy to his death for no reason in broad daylight.

And all you care about is your heck pathetic deplorable disgusting partisan bull turd and lies.

I will now gladly take my penalty from the mods for calling you out Petey as a low life piece of turd.

See you all in a few weeks.

Unlike most, I would never seek you to be placed in a time out no matter what you say about me. Most Democrats (I assume you are one based on your litany of posts) get fairly fried when someone prefers facts, patience, and nuance.

More importantly, you are wrong here: the cop did not torture the guy 'to death'. He died of other causes, assuming the coroner is not corrupt and issued his findings in a neutral manner (which I will assume since coroners aren't generally partisan). Was the cop an arse? Sure. Many are. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

And so far as me caring about partisan anything: I don't care about partisan anything; I call out Dems and Republicans where they deserve it, mostly dems since I find their policies to be antithetical to American excellence. I think George W was the worst president this country has ever had; failry sure he was a Republican.

"More importantly, you are wrong here: the cop did not torture the guy 'to death'. He died of other causes,"

PB, the dude kept saying over and over and over pleading that he could not breath. Eventually he passed out and could not plead for his life anymore. YES the police tortured him and caused his death. The video is disgusting and revolting. I have not heard any experienced police officers say this was a proper way to subdue a suspect. Common effing sense tells you don't put your freaking boot on the guys neck. What SHOULD have happened was one of the police officers at the scene should have dragged his ass off of the man. The fact these other officers stood by and watched this... DEPLORABLE.

Just to be clear, I’m in no way ‘defending’ the cop’s actions. I’m defending his legal rights as a human. I’m willing to wait and see what actually caused the guy’s death; this is likely a more nuanced death, not a more nuanced abuse of power.

What I don’t see is racism. Most do. I just see a cop with a power complex. That happens across America every day.

Democrats will abuse the situation to do what they do. Incite blacks to vote for them. Meanwhile they occupy every office in Minnesota.

I also see a bad cop who acts like he never had any training on how to subdue a subject without killing him in the process. This officers actions play right into what many black people have been saying for decades. That the police don't give a s**t about their lives. I believe that 95 % of all officers are dedicated to serve and protect their communities. That other 5% proves everything the critics have been saying about them. If you don't have respect for all of the people you serve, either turn in your badge or get a desk job someplace where you are not on the streets. I understand this from the experience of my own nephew. He spent 5 years as an RPD officer. He went in to the job bright eyed and optimistic he could help people. 5 years later he was a mess in every sense of the word. He could not handle the mental stress of patrolling the streets at night in a mostly black neighborhood. Without the right psychological makeup you can't do this job effectively. You become the police officer with a badge who is angry and resentful at the people you are suppose to be protecting. When you start to take your anger out on the people you have to arrest, it is time to find another job. The more I try and understand this i know one thing for certain. If you want to be a police officer you have to be able to maintain the right frame of mind at all times.

[Peter Brown]

Sounds like Brook is upset that the cloak is off what his party has wrought over the last four decades. Cities burning is a metaphor for Democratic policy making.

Wonder If anyone here will start a thread here about the officer in Oakland who was shot dead last night simply protecting a building? Maybe his life is worth less than George Floyd’s because no one can post a virtue signal write-up to draw fake praise from fellow lefties? I guess it would help if only we could make him sympathetic and get CNN to do woke performative art. Wonder if we’ll ever hear his name?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/one-feder ... california

The good news is voters are watching.

[Andersen]

I understand why people would equate the killing of a White Woman in Minneapolis with the killing of George Floyd. There's obvious similarities on the face of it, however they ignore the history in this country of Black Americans and Law Enforcement as well as current social context. You can't pick out the one or two items the incidents have in common and leave out the bigger picture and context.

Same with a policeman murdering a suspect and a criminal murdering a police, they're both horrible but not exactly the same.

[Peter Brown]

I understand why people would equate the killing of a White Woman in Minneapolis with the killing of George Floyd. There's obvious similarities on the face of it, however they ignore the history in this country of Black Americans and Law Enforcement as well as current social context. You can't pick out the one or two items the incidents have in common and leave out the bigger picture and context.

Same with a policeman murdering a suspect and a criminal murdering a police, they're both horrible but not exactly the same.

I don’t know if you live in the north or not, but if so, your post illustrates a big divide between what I’ve seen in my life between northerners and southerners. In the south, we are far more integrated physically with people of color than my friends in the north. Most of my northern friends live in 100% segregated neighborhoods.

Without getting into the whys and wherefores, I was basically raised by a black woman called Joanne. When she died, I gave a eulogy. It never occurred to me in a Trillion years that she was different than me in any way. She was better. Her funeral was comedy black southern Baptist, meaning it was awesome, a fitting fun tribute to a remarkable lady.

The point is this: I never nor ever will consider a persons color for anything. Democrats reduce the individual to issues beyond the individual’s control. ‘If you’re black, you must need my help’. ‘If you’re white, you must be a racist’. One dimensional bs. It’s the dumbest deducing method in the universe and turns off anyone with a functioning brain. Democrats are the party for the elite class that does all the ‘effing’; they aren’t so great for the ones being ‘effed’.

[6ftstick]

I understand why people would equate the killing of a White Woman in Minneapolis with the killing of George Floyd. There's obvious similarities on the face of it, however they ignore the history in this country of Black Americans and Law Enforcement as well as current social context. You can't pick out the one or two items the incidents have in common and leave out the bigger picture and context.

Same with a policeman murdering a suspect and a criminal murdering a police, they're both horrible but not exactly the same.

AAHHH how could I be so silly to think a white womans death mattered.

She lived a white privileged life. Screw her.

[Typical Lax Dad]

More see do:

[Peter Brown]

I understand why people would equate the killing of a White Woman in Minneapolis with the killing of George Floyd. There's obvious similarities on the face of it, however they ignore the history in this country of Black Americans and Law Enforcement as well as current social context. You can't pick out the one or two items the incidents have in common and leave out the bigger picture and context.

Same with a policeman murdering a suspect and a criminal murdering a police, they're both horrible but not exactly the same.

AAHHH how could I be so silly to think a white womans death mattered.

She lived a white privileged life. Screw her.

Yup. The Oakland officer too.

The left is predictable if nothing else.

[6ftstick]

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/fir ... pjteANH_sM

[youthathletics]

So what is the outcome ?

As Remi points out in his Instagram video ....
1. the majority/minority numbers issue. Which is why you see more whites than blacks as SEALs or Engineers or ….
2. he pleads for them to value all life and especially stop killing each other.
3. he pleads to never give anyone a reason to justify in their mind why you deserved to what happened to you.
4. his point at the end, was quite revealing. When he said. When other ethnicities say "why do you care if a black person dies more so than another, when you all seem to kill each other all time". For him....he says that others have no right to say that, to just shut up...even if the comment was not intended to divide, but dig deeper into the why?

I believe he is on to something in item 4, and if I am off the mark forgive me. This is the purist of human emotions being articulated, without actually telling everyone what it is he wants. You can almost see the wall of protection in front of his heart as he says..."just shut-up" to those with the quoted comments in item 4. I honestly do not know what else can ever take place. Anger is one of the first stages in the grieving process, and I do not believe the anger in the protests is solely about the death per say, I believe it is that so may are still working through the grieving process of history and some/many are still stuck in the forgiveness process. Forgiveness is one of the hardest things a human being can do, true forgiveness...because not truly forgiving others will tear you up inside.

Wish I could do more.

[Brooklyn]

Similarities in police mistake/negligence/stupidity/overreaction leading to tragic death. Similarities in 3rd degree murder and manslaughter charges (led to 2019 conviction in Justine Rusczyk Damond case).

Not similar in rioting, burning your own neighborhoods, looting, and general destruction.

Nice job rioters. Hard not agree with this tweet (IMO).

The absence of agent provocateurs during period that has been noted.

Interestingly, after the criminal trial for the above incident, her family was awarded $20 million for her death. By contrast, the family of a black man who had been killed by cops was awarded only $200K. Evidently, the life of a white woman is worth 100 times more than the life of a black man to some people in Minneapolis. Interesting, isn't it?

[Brooklyn]

Sounds like Brook is upset that the cloak is off what his party has wrought over the last four decades. Cities burning is a metaphor for Democratic policy making.

Projections, again?

Who here has criticized Klobuchar more than I have? Same with her conspirator Freeman (DA)? When you consider what party they belong to, I'd say it is clear that nobody has addressed this issue more than I have.

Hopefully, some day you will address the institutional racism committed by members of your own party before projecting such sentiments unto others.

[Brooklyn]

Governor Walz is about to address the local media. Will be interesting to see what he has to say about why police and firemen were kept on standby for three hours while Minneapolis burned. KARE 11 (local NBC affiliate) reporters last night kept asking that question repeatedly. If I was a reporter, I would ask about the possibility that maybe the fires/violence was orchestrated and he wanted the orchestrators to leave the area before sending in the cavalry. Previously he said they don't have enough manpower. But if this is so, why did they finally appear after three hours and easily compel people to leave???

Will see ...

[Peter Brown]

Governor Walz is about to address the local media. Will be interesting to see what he has to say about why police and firemen were kept on standby for three hours while Minneapolis burned. KARE 11 (local NBC affiliate) reporters last night kept asking that question repeatedly. If I was a reporter, I would ask about the possibility that maybe the fires/violence was orchestrated and he wanted the orchestrators to leave the area before sending in the cavalry. Previously he said they don't have enough manpower. But if this is so, why did they finally appear after three hours and easily compel people to leave???

Will see ...

Better be careful with the conspiracy charges, Brook, or a fan will say you’re on to the tin foil stuff.

Ironically it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if the police were told to fall back; their mayor doesn’t have their back.