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Florida has a 0% tax rate, it’s budget is balanced, and we have 1,900 Covid deaths.

New York has an 8% tax rate (13% in Nyc), it’s bankrupt and begging for a bailout, and has 27,500 Covid deaths.

I’ll leave it to you guess which governor the American media fawns over.

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RedFromMI wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:57 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 2:29 pm Rep. Justin Amash just announced he is not running for President after all.
Gotta be a big disappointment to OD.
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It's no surprise that this Campaign will take the Country to new lows:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/16/us/d ... smear.html

"President Trump’s eldest son on Saturday posted a social media message suggesting Joseph R. Biden Jr. was a pedophile, an incendiary and baseless charge that illustrates the tactics the president is turning to as he attempts to erase Mr. Biden’s early advantage in key state polls.

Donald Trump Jr., who is one of his father’s most prominent campaign surrogates, put on Instagram a picture of Mr. Biden saying: “See you later, alligator” alongside an image of an alligator saying: “In a while, pedophile.”

When a reporter shared the Instagram post online, the younger Mr. Trump, echoing one of his father’s tactics, wrote on Twitter that he was only “joking around” and noted that he had included emojis of a laughing face.

Yet in the same Twitter post, he also reprised his original insinuation. He accused the former vice president of “unwanted touching” alongside a collage of photographs of Mr. Biden showing affection for children. The misleading images were mostly taken from public swearing-in ceremonies at the Capitol, where the former vice president warmly greeted lawmakers and their families."
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seacoaster wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 8:20 am It's no surprise that this Campaign will take the Country to new lows:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/16/us/d ... smear.html

"President Trump’s eldest son on Saturday posted a social media message suggesting Joseph R. Biden Jr. was a pedophile, an incendiary and baseless charge that illustrates the tactics the president is turning to as he attempts to erase Mr. Biden’s early advantage in key state polls.

Donald Trump Jr., who is one of his father’s most prominent campaign surrogates, put on Instagram a picture of Mr. Biden saying: “See you later, alligator” alongside an image of an alligator saying: “In a while, pedophile.”

When a reporter shared the Instagram post online, the younger Mr. Trump, echoing one of his father’s tactics, wrote on Twitter that he was only “joking around” and noted that he had included emojis of a laughing face.

Yet in the same Twitter post, he also reprised his original insinuation. He accused the former vice president of “unwanted touching” alongside a collage of photographs of Mr. Biden showing affection for children. The misleading images were mostly taken from public swearing-in ceremonies at the Capitol, where the former vice president warmly greeted lawmakers and their families."


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Peter Brown wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 11:34 am
seacoaster wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 8:20 am It's no surprise that this Campaign will take the Country to new lows:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/16/us/d ... smear.html

"President Trump’s eldest son on Saturday posted a social media message suggesting Joseph R. Biden Jr. was a pedophile, an incendiary and baseless charge that illustrates the tactics the president is turning to as he attempts to erase Mr. Biden’s early advantage in key state polls.

Donald Trump Jr., who is one of his father’s most prominent campaign surrogates, put on Instagram a picture of Mr. Biden saying: “See you later, alligator” alongside an image of an alligator saying: “In a while, pedophile.”

When a reporter shared the Instagram post online, the younger Mr. Trump, echoing one of his father’s tactics, wrote on Twitter that he was only “joking around” and noted that he had included emojis of a laughing face.

Yet in the same Twitter post, he also reprised his original insinuation. He accused the former vice president of “unwanted touching” alongside a collage of photographs of Mr. Biden showing affection for children. The misleading images were mostly taken from public swearing-in ceremonies at the Capitol, where the former vice president warmly greeted lawmakers and their families."


hu·mor
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1. the quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech.
"his tales are full of humor"
yeah, it was just a joke. :roll:
After all, Don Jr is a well known comedian.

He doubled down, just a smear, not a joke.
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Received an application from County Board of Elections to complete for June 23, 2020 primary election "absentee ballot" using 'temporary illness or physical disability' check box for COVID-19 per cover letter. Signed by Democratic and Republican commissioners.

Been using them for years due to business travel from October 1 to following January 31; but, I had to go to Board of Elections and show ID to complete. Driver's license and telephone/utility bill with home address.

No ID requested in cover letter nor application.
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Jim Malone wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 12:28 pm Received an application from County Board of Elections to complete for June 23, 2020 primary election "absentee ballot" using 'temporary illness or physical disability' check box for COVID-19 per cover letter. Signed by Democratic and Republican commissioners.

Been using them for years due to business travel from October 1 to following January 31; but, I had to go to Board of Elections and show ID to complete. Driver's license and telephone/utility bill with home address.

No ID requested in cover letter nor application.
I'd be interested in how Oregon has done this.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 11:53 am
Peter Brown wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 11:34 am
seacoaster wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 8:20 am It's no surprise that this Campaign will take the Country to new lows:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/16/us/d ... smear.html

"President Trump’s eldest son on Saturday posted a social media message suggesting Joseph R. Biden Jr. was a pedophile, an incendiary and baseless charge that illustrates the tactics the president is turning to as he attempts to erase Mr. Biden’s early advantage in key state polls.

Donald Trump Jr., who is one of his father’s most prominent campaign surrogates, put on Instagram a picture of Mr. Biden saying: “See you later, alligator” alongside an image of an alligator saying: “In a while, pedophile.”

When a reporter shared the Instagram post online, the younger Mr. Trump, echoing one of his father’s tactics, wrote on Twitter that he was only “joking around” and noted that he had included emojis of a laughing face.

Yet in the same Twitter post, he also reprised his original insinuation. He accused the former vice president of “unwanted touching” alongside a collage of photographs of Mr. Biden showing affection for children. The misleading images were mostly taken from public swearing-in ceremonies at the Capitol, where the former vice president warmly greeted lawmakers and their families."


hu·mor
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noun

1. the quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech.
"his tales are full of humor"
yeah, it was just a joke. :roll:
After all, Don Jr is a well known comedian.

He doubled down, just a smear, not a joke.
And yet “jokes” of the same ilk and of the same quality are applauded by so many on the left that there is a cottage industry of bad “comedians” whose only schtick is “right bashing.”

See Colbert, Kimmel, Maher, Meyers...And then there’s the lower tier- Busy Phillips, Samantha Bee...

Why is that?
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kramerica.inc wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 1:27 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 11:53 am
Peter Brown wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 11:34 am
seacoaster wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 8:20 am It's no surprise that this Campaign will take the Country to new lows:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/16/us/d ... smear.html

"President Trump’s eldest son on Saturday posted a social media message suggesting Joseph R. Biden Jr. was a pedophile, an incendiary and baseless charge that illustrates the tactics the president is turning to as he attempts to erase Mr. Biden’s early advantage in key state polls.

Donald Trump Jr., who is one of his father’s most prominent campaign surrogates, put on Instagram a picture of Mr. Biden saying: “See you later, alligator” alongside an image of an alligator saying: “In a while, pedophile.”

When a reporter shared the Instagram post online, the younger Mr. Trump, echoing one of his father’s tactics, wrote on Twitter that he was only “joking around” and noted that he had included emojis of a laughing face.

Yet in the same Twitter post, he also reprised his original insinuation. He accused the former vice president of “unwanted touching” alongside a collage of photographs of Mr. Biden showing affection for children. The misleading images were mostly taken from public swearing-in ceremonies at the Capitol, where the former vice president warmly greeted lawmakers and their families."


hu·mor
/ˈ(h)yo͞omər/

noun

1. the quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech.
"his tales are full of humor"
yeah, it was just a joke. :roll:
After all, Don Jr is a well known comedian.

He doubled down, just a smear, not a joke.
And yet “jokes” of the same ilk and of the same quality are applauded by so many on the left that there is a cottage industry of bad “comedians” whose only schtick is “right bashing.”

See Colbert, Kimmel, Maher, Meyers...And then there’s the lower tier- Busy Phillips, Samantha Bee...

Why is that?
They get paid as comedians???

Seriously, I think political humor can get rather extreme and tasteless at times. But it's humor.

Don Jr is not remotely a comedian...and he doubled down on the smear campaign.

Pretty sure you know the difference, Kram.
Doesn't matter whether from the left or right, we CAN know the difference.
PB is just a partisan, so ahh well.
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He suggested that Biden engaged in one of the last taboos, at least in my view, and a type of criminal conduct for which even garden variety criminals will punish someone in the nick for it. C'mon; there is no equivalency between calling someone a pedophile and calling them, for example, a serial sexual harasser. He's the President's son, and an acknowledged piece of sh*t. It's not humor. Defending it is nearly as classless as the act itself. But that's what folks do for Trump.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... ord-reade/

"When Tara Reade, a former staffer in the office of then-Sen. Joe Biden, stepped forward to make a claim that Biden had sexually violated her, an endless stream of commentary ensued: It’s hard to not believe her if you believed Christine Blasey Ford (who accused Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh of sexual assault when both were teenagers). Democrats are in a pickle! Live by the “believe women” rule!

This effort at moral equivalency made the same error that all such comparisons do: It attempted to treat unequal things as equal. In the case of Ford, she had never changed her account of an assault at a party, which Kavanaugh denies. She testified under oath, credibly recounting the episode. There was also another alleged incident of sexual misconduct from Kavanaugh’s time at Yale, which a credible third party reported having witnessed (which Kavanaugh has also denied). Although we will never know for certain, Kavanaugh’s denial of heavy drinking and his implausible explanations about his calendar undercut his testimony.

In the case of Reade, the overwhelming weight of evidence suggests no sexual assault occurred. To conclude she is telling the truth, you would have to believe that, for the first and only time in his career, Biden decided to assault a woman in a fully visible spot in the Capitol. Reade, as previously reported, repeatedly modified her story. At one point she claimed the assault had been documented in a written complaint. After Biden denied the incident, she said come to think of it, the complaint wouldn’t have included the assault portion. There was plenty here to set off alarm bells. Sure enough, the more media entities investigated, the more flaky Reade’s story seemed.

PBS published a massive investigation on Friday, which included interviews with 74 former Biden staffers, 62 of them women. Rather than any hint of impropriety, “people who spoke to the NewsHour described largely positive and gratifying experiences working for Biden, painting a portrait of someone who was ahead of his time in empowering women in the workplace.” (Some did, however, acknowledge his nonsexual touchy-feely conduct, for which Biden has apologized.) In addition, the investigation spoke to a staffer who sat next to Reade and “told the NewsHour that Reade was fired for her poor performance on the job, which he witnessed — not as retaliation for her complaints about sexual harassment.”

Finally, the specifics of her allegation — that Biden accosted her in a hallway when she brought him his gym bag — turn out to be wholly improbable:

Reade’s attorney told the NewsHour that Reade recalls the assault happening “in a semiprivate area like an alcove” and that it was “somewhere between the Russell (building) and/or Capitol building.” He pointed out that survivors often have difficulty with specifics about trauma. … A recent walk through that area showed the subway tunnel contains no out-of-view areas, like an alcove. The remaining portion of the route includes multiple stairwells as well as corridors lined with offices. It is a main thoroughfare for senators and staffers.
Some former staffers told the NewsHour that if Biden did assault Reade in any of these places, it would have been a brazen attack in an area with a high risk of being seen.
Politico also investigated Reade’s charge, interviewing more than a dozen people. “A number of those in close contact with Reade over the past 12 years, a period in which she went by the names Tara Reade, Tara McCabe or Alexandra McCabe, laid out a familiar pattern: Reade ingratiated herself, explained she was down on her luck and needed help, and eventually took advantage of their goodwill to extract money, skip rent payments or walk out on other bills,” Politico found. “The people [interviewed] provided copies of past emails, screenshots of Facebook Messenger or text exchanges with Reade, copies of billing invoices or court records detailing their grievances or correspondence.”

Reade declined to comment on the Politico article, but her lawyer, Douglas Wigdor, took issue with the article, arguing that past incidents don’t bear relevance to the allegations against Biden. “If the assertion is that someone who has lied to their landlord because they don’t have the money to pay rent so then they lied about a sexual assault, I don’t think that is fair journalism,” Wigdor said.

In sum, Reade’s story is riddled with inconsistencies. There are plenty of contemporaneous witnesses (including those who would have received a complaint and say they did not) to dispute her allegations. Questions about her credibility abound.

“Believe women” does not mean we must be blind to facts or engage in willful blindness. Sexual assault is a crime. In our system of justice and in the court of public opinion, facts still matter, and not all allegations are equally meritorious. Some are downright false. With regard to Reade, it’s long past time the media stopped indulging in the notion that if you believe Ford, you must believe Reade.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 1:34 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 1:27 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 11:53 am
Peter Brown wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 11:34 am
seacoaster wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 8:20 am It's no surprise that this Campaign will take the Country to new lows:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/16/us/d ... smear.html

"President Trump’s eldest son on Saturday posted a social media message suggesting Joseph R. Biden Jr. was a pedophile, an incendiary and baseless charge that illustrates the tactics the president is turning to as he attempts to erase Mr. Biden’s early advantage in key state polls.

Donald Trump Jr., who is one of his father’s most prominent campaign surrogates, put on Instagram a picture of Mr. Biden saying: “See you later, alligator” alongside an image of an alligator saying: “In a while, pedophile.”

When a reporter shared the Instagram post online, the younger Mr. Trump, echoing one of his father’s tactics, wrote on Twitter that he was only “joking around” and noted that he had included emojis of a laughing face.

Yet in the same Twitter post, he also reprised his original insinuation. He accused the former vice president of “unwanted touching” alongside a collage of photographs of Mr. Biden showing affection for children. The misleading images were mostly taken from public swearing-in ceremonies at the Capitol, where the former vice president warmly greeted lawmakers and their families."


hu·mor
/ˈ(h)yo͞omər/

noun

1. the quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech.
"his tales are full of humor"
yeah, it was just a joke. :roll:
After all, Don Jr is a well known comedian.

He doubled down, just a smear, not a joke.
And yet “jokes” of the same ilk and of the same quality are applauded by so many on the left that there is a cottage industry of bad “comedians” whose only schtick is “right bashing.”

See Colbert, Kimmel, Maher, Meyers...And then there’s the lower tier- Busy Phillips, Samantha Bee...

Why is that?
They get paid as comedians???

Seriously, I think political humor can get rather extreme and tasteless at times. But it's humor.

Don Jr is not remotely a comedian...and he doubled down on the smear campaign.

Pretty sure you know the difference, Kram.
Doesn't matter whether from the left or right, we CAN know the difference.
PB is just a partisan, so ahh well.
It is all humor. And thinking comedians don’t have political agendas like Politicians is being naive.

People saying nasty things about others in the name of “making a joke” is a regular occurrence in this country.

“What’s said in jest is more than half meant.” Do it enough times and that reputation sticks. If you’re in the political arena, it appears you’re fair game these days. Like it or not.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 4:48 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 1:34 pm
kramerica.inc wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 1:27 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 11:53 am
Peter Brown wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 11:34 am
seacoaster wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 8:20 am It's no surprise that this Campaign will take the Country to new lows:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/16/us/d ... smear.html

"President Trump’s eldest son on Saturday posted a social media message suggesting Joseph R. Biden Jr. was a pedophile, an incendiary and baseless charge that illustrates the tactics the president is turning to as he attempts to erase Mr. Biden’s early advantage in key state polls.

Donald Trump Jr., who is one of his father’s most prominent campaign surrogates, put on Instagram a picture of Mr. Biden saying: “See you later, alligator” alongside an image of an alligator saying: “In a while, pedophile.”

When a reporter shared the Instagram post online, the younger Mr. Trump, echoing one of his father’s tactics, wrote on Twitter that he was only “joking around” and noted that he had included emojis of a laughing face.

Yet in the same Twitter post, he also reprised his original insinuation. He accused the former vice president of “unwanted touching” alongside a collage of photographs of Mr. Biden showing affection for children. The misleading images were mostly taken from public swearing-in ceremonies at the Capitol, where the former vice president warmly greeted lawmakers and their families."


hu·mor
/ˈ(h)yo͞omər/

noun

1. the quality of being amusing or comic, especially as expressed in literature or speech.
"his tales are full of humor"
yeah, it was just a joke. :roll:
After all, Don Jr is a well known comedian.

He doubled down, just a smear, not a joke.
And yet “jokes” of the same ilk and of the same quality are applauded by so many on the left that there is a cottage industry of bad “comedians” whose only schtick is “right bashing.”

See Colbert, Kimmel, Maher, Meyers...And then there’s the lower tier- Busy Phillips, Samantha Bee...

Why is that?
They get paid as comedians???

Seriously, I think political humor can get rather extreme and tasteless at times. But it's humor.

Don Jr is not remotely a comedian...and he doubled down on the smear campaign.

Pretty sure you know the difference, Kram.
Doesn't matter whether from the left or right, we CAN know the difference.
PB is just a partisan, so ahh well.
It is all humor. And thinking comedians don’t have political agendas like Politicians is being naive.

People saying nasty things about others in the name of “making a joke” is a regular occurrence in this country.

“What’s said in jest is more than half meant.” Do it enough times and that reputation sticks. If you’re in the political arena, it appears you’re fair game these days. Like it or not.
yeah, if you're in politics, you're definitely fair game.
And some of it is indeed quite tasteless.
And of course comedians have a point of view.
I certainly have no issue with such, thought SNL's send ups of the Clintons over the years were hilarious. Al Gore impressions were devastating. So, too, was the impression of Palin, devastating.

But no, I quite disagree with any equivalency.
Comedians are different than politician's family members or campaign staff.

Quite different standards.
The comedian is actually trying to be funny.

In this case, pure smear.

Let's not give Don Jr a pass.
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But D presidential candidates have a long history of pedophilia under the Trump regime. Don't forget that pizza place Hillary was running that Flynn's son sniffed out.

"I was only joking" is such a lame cop-out. Everyone knows what it actually is.
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“I wish you would!”
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Peter Brown wrote: Sat May 16, 2020 6:21 pm Florida has a 0% tax rate, it’s budget is balanced, and we have 1,900 Covid deaths.

New York has an 8% tax rate (13% in Nyc), it’s bankrupt and begging for a bailout, and has 27,500 Covid deaths.

I’ll leave it to you guess which governor the American media fawns over.

:lol:
What are their respective "Morality Rates"?

:D :D :D
by cradleandshoot » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 am
Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
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o d motto:

"F%@%'em if they can't take a Joke and Joke'm if they cant take a F%@#"
by cradleandshoot » Fri Aug 13, 2021 8:57 am
Mr moderator, deactivate my account.
You have heck this forum up to making it nothing more than a joke. I hope you are happy.
This is cradle and shoot signing out.
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Ron DeSantis (and I!) are still waiting on a number of you to apologize to him for your hysterical warnings about how Ron was endangering the health and welfare of Floridians. Don't hide behind the 'the beaches will seed America', since even your vaunted NYTimes discovered that it was the opposite effect, that New Yorkers actually seeded Florida.

Let's go MD, a fan, the CU's two 77 and 88, disslaxx, Red, njbill etc....step into the light and send Ron an apology! C'mon, won't be hard to do...just a quick note saying you had it all wrong and you don't understand Florida. Let's do this.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/ ... -strategy/

DeSantis is bemused by the obsession with Florida’s beaches. When they opened in Jacksonville, it was a big national story, usually relayed with a dire tone. “Jacksonville has almost no COVID activity outside of a nursing-home context,” he says. “Their hospitalizations are down, ICU down since the beaches opened a month ago. And yet, nobody talks about it. It’s just like, ‘Okay, we just move on to the next target.’”
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I would posit that anyone, irrespective of political leaning, would find the way Joe Biden "handles" little girls and grown women (Ash Carter's wife) unsettling. Maybe I'm wrong? Which of you dads with daughters would want Joe's brand of "affection" lavished upon your daughter(s)?

If he touched my daughter like that, whether when she was 15 or today, when she's 35, he would get a face full of knuckles and a kick in the balls.
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