Hobart 2020

[Dallasdog]

I understand PJ Delpha 2 yr starter at closed D and the transfer from OCC is returning for another year

[Farfromgeneva]

If rumors hold true of Mueller, Delpha, Scott, Hurley and Lampert coming back and we don’t lose anyone else plus what appears to potentially be the best overall class this decade, we will be in good shape as long as some combination of Holtby/Drennan/CJ White/Andrew Vona can be near average or better. I thought Drennna was going to be next in like after 2019, but appeared as though Holtby was the solid #2. Close D will be very experienced w Mueller, Delpha and Christiansen who was improving off a 1st team FR year, heck if Mueller could ever be fully healthy for a full season the lacrosse world will be wondering where that kid came from. Every bit as good as a guy like Mike Manley (former local area kids who played at duke a while back) If fully healthy.

Incoming FR include: Connor Durkin, Chad Bach, Zach Delaney, Sam Ward, Porter Johnson, Greenburgh (NC middie that 10stone liked), Kewley (LSM from Va), Gullace (Mid from NJ), Cardinali (late attack from NJ), Datellas (A from WGenny first in forever from there), Duby (d from JD), Turner (D from NJ) and Andrew Vona (G from LS in MA).

From publicity standpoint, it appears as though Durkin, Bach, Delaney, Johnson have the look of distinguished careers or better. I think there’s a lot in the guys that I read less on in this list as well. Ward is interesting, got injured Jr yr so may be slow to get going in college but an ext real year to get healthy isn’t bad from a knee injury. If he steps up we could have a 6’4” and 6’7” attackmen running on same line of him and Barthelme.

Way way too early guess, but assuming the 5 listed return, while starting O is more top six than definite a/m last couple of years 1st mid line is easy with

1st Mid: Scott, Madonna and Herlihy.
1st Attack: Knox, Archer and Mott/Grooms/Barthelme/Durkin (think at last as FR Bach and Delaney more likely to see PT at Mid)
hard to say and there’s enough talent for a full 3rd line IMO
2nd/3rd Mid: Mott/Yanko/Bach/Delaney/Simas/Mitrow/Romm/Baltzer (great wing GB play early)/Meite/Greenburgh
-If Mott isn’t starter he’s clear 2nd line as is likely Simas
FO: Shea/Blanchard makes me very comfortable and I think they both have upside, Shea potentially a lot more
LSM: EBF/Ryan/Nalen/Ballo/Imburgia/Trujillo/Hurley and FR
Close D should be the three above w maybe Nalen and Horton in the mix.

SSDM: Sherman is lock, two way guys or those who aren’t top 2 mid lines and hustle. I’d like to see Simas, Mitrow and Baltzer get into it. Meite is fast as hell.

Goalie-probably Holtby but we will see. Three guys have some college PT at least and a seriously deep and veteran set of Close D and LSM in front of him.

Perkins coming back to RMU is not but otherwise don’t think any other teams in conference are bringing back as many Seniors and have strong returning casts. On the team level losing Adler is probably bigger than losing Holden. Should be able to pick up where we left off and go higher next year

[catchnshoot]

It will be interesting to see how some of the young guns hold up without Holden drawing so much attention and the best defenders / doubles etc..
They look like a talented group but a Holden type player changes the whole dynamic

[Farfromgeneva]

Let’s not forget Holden has an underwhelming 22,17 his Soph year where he shot below 20%. Archer by comparison had 43pts as a Soph an Knox 41 as a FR and on pace to improve his numbers. Those two should be a pretty good 1-2 then add Mott, Madonna, Scott who have been 20-40pts guys and Herlihy w 13 goals in 5 games along with others. There was some feeling that we’d slip losing Aslanian but I think we have 2-4 guys who are capable and potentially ready to step into the #1 role. Should be Archer I only worry about his ability to handle the beat down w/o adding 5lbs of muscle.

[oldbartman]

According to Twitter, our latest 2021 commit.

https://youtu.be/q_BkQO6YAkY?t=10

[LRoggy]

According to Twitter, our latest 2021 commit.

https://youtu.be/q_BkQO6YAkY?t=10

That's the type of size we need to take the next step. I really liked the two outlet passes he threw. More line drive, less loop.

Wisconsin. I suspect our offensive coordinator knew about him.

[FMUBart]

Looks athletic with good speed, could see him playing pole given his perceived ability in transition. Not sure the caliber of play, but sure passes the physical test!

[Farfromgeneva]

Question is will 2020s be on campus come Sept?

[Laxgunea]

No one knows. Everyone is being told to plan for all possibilities. There is a very strong desire to start face to face, but remote options may also be offered, for faculty and staff as well as for students. Everyone is scrambling.

[catchnshoot]

Tough to bring students back until their is a vaccine
The Finger Lakes Region might be re-opened But you start bringing back thousands of students many who are residents of hot spots , you may be creating a problem for areas like Geneva where this has been much less of an issue

[Farfromgeneva]

Football players are being told business as usual planning for fall as of now. Per a Sr on team.

On thing I also noted from this gentleman is that the colleges, who do excel in abroad program participation and function, did an excellent job getting kids back this winter. By comparison I have a niece at Lewis & Clark (tied now in US News w us, who was well behind us 5-10yrs ago in rank and tied more or less in endowment so decent comp) that was studying abroad in New Zealand and borderline abandoned by that college, a professor ultimately got her a ticket home weeks and then some after the last of the HWS abroad kids were back and that is was well organized by the school. It was interesting to see the vast difference between the two. I should add that my niece was accepted to WS and had a slightly better financial aid package from us but felt like there was more outdoors activities at LC, the cost of travel eat up most of the aid difference (though I think our grant money was significantly better than LC in the mix) and she still felt like it had that Snobart and Will Sniff culture going on though that may be partly from the stories I’ve regaled her on the colleges which were really declining in my 2nd half of 1990s period when Hersh was on the way out and Gearan came in. So we do some things very well vs our peers in certain regards.

[FMUBart]

Great news Far From! I thought once we flattened the curve and alleviated the medical capacity issues(mostly in NYC and other urban areas) things would begin to get back to normal. Waiting for a vaccine

[oldbartman]

Local news writ-up of incoming FY Sam Ward.

https://hingham.wickedlocal.com/sports/ ... have-liked

[spartanslynx]

Sam Lucchesi as gone pro and signed with the Bayhawks

[FMUBart]

Ithaca is starting fall 2020 semester on Oct 5th; SU plans on starting late August. Not sure of the disconnect, but things appear to be moving in the right direction..

[Farfromgeneva]

One has D1 tv sports the other wishes it had D1 tv sports and takes 5th yr multi school transfers for a D3 sport?

[Laxgunea]

Hobart has no plan yet. Still reeling from financial trouble, paycuts, and furloughs. It isn't looking too good in Geneva right now.

[Farfromgeneva]

I’ve got to say the more I think about it that if the primary three at attack next year were Knox, Archer and Mott (or even if maybe Grooms or a FR earns this spot) that it could be a very dynamic offense.

Archer is probably the highest rated kid we’ve had coming in this decade and gone 32 (19,13), 43 (19,24) and 18 (7,11) in 5gms on teams that have had clear scorers like Frank Brown, Knox, Scott and Holden. Not saying he’s suddenly going to drop 55-60 goal season but I think we’ve yet to see his best and it’s coming.

I still think Knox has another level or two and even if a specialist scorer could end up on his own level in Hobart (at least D1) history.

Mott has been solid and still has upside. Imagine these three with a lot of off ball movement, pick and roll, etc and defenses will have to respect the middies w Scott, Madonna, Herlihy, Simas and a number of others.

I honestly don’t know if we will miss a beat despite losing Holden and Aslanian the last two years. And potentially could have another level up.

[Farfromgeneva]

Some bold predictions for the heck of it, assuming we have a seasons next spring:

NEC championship hard fought through SJU and RMU. Play in game win and we get that “dang, those guys were pretty good this year and near/in at large quality”.

Christiansen wins NEC DPOY leading a defense that gave up a 8.9 GAA for season

Blanchard/Shea combine above .550 for year

Baltzer becomes consummate wing/SSdM/jack of all trades with 9g,12a,65gbs

Archer goes 30/30 (g/a)

Knox has > 50g (and over 100 next two years)

Scott completes metamorphosis into prototype 2 way middie doing it all w 30g,20a,50gbs and 6cts

One FR drops 40pts

If Lampert comes back he breaks out as a 2nd line middie like a Max Romm and has 15-20g

[Laxgunea]

I love it. I think Simas will be important too. And I was impressed with Maite. A few guys, like Yanko, have everything they need for breakout seasons. I think Madonna will continue with one of the hardest outside shots in college. Reminds me of Cassells a few years ago with that big shot, but much more versatile. I also expect Bathelme to emerge. I was looking forward to his evolution this year. Love his vision, thoughtfulness and calm. He might end up as a 4th attack, esp if it opens Archer as a shooter. On D, if Delpha and Mueller are back, and stay healthy, we have lowest goals against in league. Goalie will be key. I wish Drennen was healthy this year.