Do you know anyone that said COVID 19 in America was avoidable? I know one guy that was close.... “we have 15 cases and it will soon be 0 or close to 0”....Your CinCcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:42 pmYou think if Trump had gone all in all this would have been avoided? It is not about a false anything. It is about what happens when you ignore what your smart people are telling you. GWB screw up is a valid comparison also. Why was his screwup even possible... 9/11/2001 is why. America was all ticked off. It is alot easier to motivate people to do what you want when they are angry. The point is not about body count, the point is what happens when you either ignore or delay the information given you. Sometimes 4 people die, sometimes 50 thousand people die. COVID blindsided the entire world. Woulda, shoulda, coulda is easy to say now. We are all Monday morning quarterbacks. Every monday morning I always know what my Buffalo Bills did to lose the game. It is so much easier to understand what went wrong after the game has been played.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:25 pmMore false equivalency.... Find a better comp....we have 50,000 people dead in a month and have lost trillions in economic value......looking for WMD’s is a more fitting analogy....chuck wagon is a better descriptorcradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:06 pmThat was not my point TLD. I knew one of the usual jackwagons here would not understand. I hope I can splain it for you in simple enough terms for you to comprehend. I was comparing the intelligence failure where BHOs folks IGNORED the threats being made in Benghazi. I was comparing that to the intelligence failure Trump made in the COVID screwup. It was not about what happened in Benghazi. It was about what happens when any POTUS ignores the critical information being given to them by people that understand the situation. I hope you understand now? I tried to make it clear enough for you and your self portrait.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:55 pmHere we go with Benghazicradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:49 pmI understand your point and I don't disagree with it. I am not an expert on how government works but I do know one thing. The government responds to emergencies the same way the Titanic responded to that iceberg. They are too big and too slow to ever be able to make the turn in time. The BHO people were given months of warning about the dangers in Benghazi and they did nothing. The Trump people were given ample warning about what COVID might do to the country. Nobody in government no matter the party ever wants to deal with the worst case scenario. They will always dick f**k around looking for an easier way around the problem. That is how our government works. They are scared s***less about being the boy who cried wolf and getting it wrong from the start.RedFromMI wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:31 pmNO - failure to hold this administration's feet to the fire just allows it to get worse. Trump could have been a true leader, but was so damned afraid of messing up the stock market that he refused to things in his power that needed to be done as time was of the essence (and still is).cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:26 pmThe fact that the gubmint was caught with their pants around their ankles seems to surprise you. I know enough about how slow the procurement channels work in DC that it would not have mattered who the POTUS was. The POTUS could demand anything become top priority. You think the underlings, especially if they dislike a POTUS are honestly going to work any faster? POTUS screwed this up but there was no bright shining light anywhere around here in the world of Washington DC. It took people like a Fan to grab the bull by the horns and make up for the short comings of the federal government. The people of the USA are the ones who have bailed out their incompetent leadership. Our leaders screwed the pooch on many levels. The monday morning quarterbacking should wait until somebody, somewhere, somehow get this entire sh***y mess under control.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:09 pm Easy, NY was hit early and hard and didn't have enough PPE for medical staff in hospitals, much less for anyone else, given the enormous increase in usage.
Florida came much later and received PPE on time. Helped to be a Trumpist on the latter, former was just luck.
That's why those 'missing 6 weeks' of not cranking up PPE production, testing, etc are so important and to have a national distribution system instead of states bidding against one another. We needed far more than we had. Still do.
When in the last 100 years did we have 50,000 people die from a virus in one month? You don’t know what you are talking about. You actually “sound” stupid.
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/p ... uns-deadly