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All things CoronaVirus
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- Dr. Rick Bright says in statement he was pushed out of BARDA for a narrower, more limited role at NIH for wanting to use science to test treatments for COVID19, specifically the administration push to get chloroquines in wide use
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/c ... erage.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/c ... erage.html
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I am the biggest proponent of listening to the other side of anyone you'll ever meet; you always learn more listening to the other side! Always.
I actually invite some (what I consider) known speakers to private events where they get to tell me to my face (and my friends) that we are completely wrong about everything. half the time I believe them!
The one thing I hope I don't do here, and I am sure I am guilty from time to time, is make direct personal insults (I am allowed to call Dems nitwits, because that is not a direct insult to anyone in particular!). I hate when I catch myself doing it; truly hate it.
Feel free to call me a hypocrite when you see me do that.
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However you want to pay is good with us...I'll provide the view.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:33 pma fan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:30 pm
And Gilead got their money for this research from......who?
Government handouts staring you in the face. And you still can't see it.
The FDA's granting of orphan status for remdesivir as a treatment for COVID-19 came with financial incentives for Gilead that include tax breaks, waiver of FDA fees and market exclusivity for seven years if the drug is approved. New drug molecules typically only get five years of this exclusivity.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... treatments
BTW, US taxpayers are suing your super awesome "free market" company for IP theft. Might want to put that into your stock pricing.
https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2019/11/ ... s-hiv.html
I'm long and strong and riding with my boy Dan O'Day until this pandemic is crushed. My cap gains will pay for the jumbo crabs at MD's plus a few bottles of your reserve collection.
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you gotta re-read your posts, PB.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:39 pm
I am the biggest proponent of listening to the other side of anyone you'll ever meet; you always learn more listening to the other side! Always.
I actually invite some (what I consider) known speakers to private events where they get to tell me to my face (and my friends) that we are completely wrong about everything. half the time I believe them!
The one thing I hope I don't do here, and I am sure I am guilty from time to time, is make direct personal insults (I am allowed to call Dems nitwits, because that is not a direct insult to anyone in particular!). I hate when I catch myself doing it; truly hate it.
Feel free to call me a hypocrite when you see me do that.
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This wasn't Sophia, but was still a good litmus test for a 12 yr old.6ftstick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:23 pmIt's my Dennis Miller theory of homosexuality shot through the movie "Boy and the Dolphin." If you're a 12-year-old boy and you're watching the movie "Boy and a Dolphin" and a 27-year-old Sofia Loren crawls up out of the Aegean Sea after sponge diving, she's standing there in the deck of the boat in a see-through gauze top, rivulets of water dripping off her torso onto the deck of the boat. If you're a 12-year-old boy and you're watching that and you still want to make it with the captain of the boat, you're gay.njbill wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:18 pmIngrid Bergman vs. Sophia Loren. Debate among yourselves.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050208/me ... 1671141376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2eIC4YiEq8
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Love the jumbo crabs but without fresh schucked raw clams there can be no party... period.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:33 pma fan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:30 pm
And Gilead got their money for this research from......who?
Government handouts staring you in the face. And you still can't see it.
The FDA's granting of orphan status for remdesivir as a treatment for COVID-19 came with financial incentives for Gilead that include tax breaks, waiver of FDA fees and market exclusivity for seven years if the drug is approved. New drug molecules typically only get five years of this exclusivity.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... treatments
BTW, US taxpayers are suing your super awesome "free market" company for IP theft. Might want to put that into your stock pricing.
https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2019/11/ ... s-hiv.html
I'm long and strong and riding with my boy Dan O'Day until this pandemic is crushed. My cap gains will pay for the jumbo crabs at MD's plus a few bottles of your reserve collection.
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This could be explosive...he's unlikely to be the only scientist PO'd big time.Trinity wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:39 pm - Dr. Rick Bright says in statement he was pushed out of BARDA for a narrower, more limited role at NIH for wanting to use science to test treatments for COVID19, specifically the administration push to get chloroquines in wide use
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/c ... erage.html
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They replaced him with a guy who was a dancer at Chippendales.Trinity wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:39 pm - Dr. Rick Bright says in statement he was pushed out of BARDA for a narrower, more limited role at NIH for wanting to use science to test treatments for COVID19, specifically the administration push to get chloroquines in wide use
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/c ... erage.html
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What about this one?old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:41 pmThis wasn't Sophia, but was still a good litmus test for a 12 yr old.6ftstick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:23 pmIt's my Dennis Miller theory of homosexuality shot through the movie "Boy and the Dolphin." If you're a 12-year-old boy and you're watching the movie "Boy and a Dolphin" and a 27-year-old Sofia Loren crawls up out of the Aegean Sea after sponge diving, she's standing there in the deck of the boat in a see-through gauze top, rivulets of water dripping off her torso onto the deck of the boat. If you're a 12-year-old boy and you're watching that and you still want to make it with the captain of the boat, you're gay.njbill wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:18 pmIngrid Bergman vs. Sophia Loren. Debate among yourselves.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050208/me ... 1671141376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2eIC4YiEq8
Tony Curtis sounds like he is from Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.
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Meh. One news cycle.
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For this 12 year old there were 2 women that gave me the Chris Matthews tingle down my leg. Top of the list... Raquel Welch and she is still hot. Not far behind... Barbara Eden... I did dream of Jeanie.old salt wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:41 pmThis wasn't Sophia, but was still a good litmus test for a 12 yr old.6ftstick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:23 pmIt's my Dennis Miller theory of homosexuality shot through the movie "Boy and the Dolphin." If you're a 12-year-old boy and you're watching the movie "Boy and a Dolphin" and a 27-year-old Sofia Loren crawls up out of the Aegean Sea after sponge diving, she's standing there in the deck of the boat in a see-through gauze top, rivulets of water dripping off her torso onto the deck of the boat. If you're a 12-year-old boy and you're watching that and you still want to make it with the captain of the boat, you're gay.njbill wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:18 pmIngrid Bergman vs. Sophia Loren. Debate among yourselves.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050208/me ... 1671141376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2eIC4YiEq8
We don't make mistakes, we have happy accidents.
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Trump knows better than the doctors. Dude needs to stay off Twitter.jhu72 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:44 pmThey replaced him with a guy who was a dancer at Chippendales.Trinity wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:39 pm - Dr. Rick Bright says in statement he was pushed out of BARDA for a narrower, more limited role at NIH for wanting to use science to test treatments for COVID19, specifically the administration push to get chloroquines in wide use
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/c ... erage.html
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Some Chincoteagues are indeed tasty! I'm more of an oyster guy myself, but I do like to mix few a salty clams into the mix. Generally better, or at least safer, in cold months though. Gotta slurp.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:41 pmLove the jumbo crabs but without fresh schucked raw clams there can be no party... period.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:33 pma fan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:30 pm
And Gilead got their money for this research from......who?
Government handouts staring you in the face. And you still can't see it.
The FDA's granting of orphan status for remdesivir as a treatment for COVID-19 came with financial incentives for Gilead that include tax breaks, waiver of FDA fees and market exclusivity for seven years if the drug is approved. New drug molecules typically only get five years of this exclusivity.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... treatments
BTW, US taxpayers are suing your super awesome "free market" company for IP theft. Might want to put that into your stock pricing.
https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2019/11/ ... s-hiv.html
I'm long and strong and riding with my boy Dan O'Day until this pandemic is crushed. My cap gains will pay for the jumbo crabs at MD's plus a few bottles of your reserve collection.
Never really seen the appeal of large quahogs up north, but I do love me a big platter of fried full bodies, soft shells.
It'll certainly be good to get back, at some point, to being able to share these experiences with families and pals.
Meanwhile, buy and prepare as much seafood as you can while at home, the industry is hurting as people usually eat most seafood at restaurants.
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:41 pmyou gotta re-read your posts, PB.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:39 pm
I am the biggest proponent of listening to the other side of anyone you'll ever meet; you always learn more listening to the other side! Always.
I actually invite some (what I consider) known speakers to private events where they get to tell me to my face (and my friends) that we are completely wrong about everything. half the time I believe them!
The one thing I hope I don't do here, and I am sure I am guilty from time to time, is make direct personal insults (I am allowed to call Dems nitwits, because that is not a direct insult to anyone in particular!). I hate when I catch myself doing it; truly hate it.
Feel free to call me a hypocrite when you see me do that.
Well, I mean people who know what they are actually talking about
Anyway, if you are a conservative on this board and you want to learn what true liberals are, invite Matt Bruenig to your house and be entertained for hours by a guy whose knowledge about most political subjects is significantly beyond his years, even though I hardly agree with him on economic matters. I do agree with him on almost everything when it comes to civil rights. Glenn Greenwald is quite an amazing teacher too. Ryan Grim. Bernie Sanders prior press secretary is going places and can speak with such charm, you'd hardly think she's a socialist: Briahna Joy Gray. These are smart people with tons of ideas, and it's fascinating to hear their thoughts on wealth disparity, M4A, etc...
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3R -- let's talk death counts. 2.8 million people die in the USA each year from all causes.632,092 total deaths in the USA, as of April 22, 2020 (hey, that's today ) How does that match up to the same time frame, in the previous ten years.
21K dead from V-19
34k of those each year are from seasonal flu. That's what you get with widely used flu vaccines but not social distancing measures. If we didn't have flu shots, then the deaths would be higher.
39k of those are from car crashes. That's what you get with all the things we do to combat those deaths -- air bags, seat belts, traffic lights, speed limits, drunk driving laws, etc. If we got rid of those things, car deaths would be higher.
UW currently projecting 66k deaths from Covid. Doesn't sound all that bad. But you only get 66k ASSUMING that current social distancing measures are maintained until June.
If you take down those SD measures, then the deaths would go up. How much I don't know. The Imperial College folks predicted 1-2.2 million with zero measures. For comparison, the 1918 Spanish Flu killed 675k in the USA.
So what would you do 3R? Let it rip and accept a 7 figure death toll? Or something else?
You can't argue that we should accept 66k deaths and have no measures. Because that is not an available option. With no measures, it would be much higher. Would 200k be ok? 500k? 1 million? 2 million?
Personally, I wouldn't shut the country down for only 200k deaths. I would for 500k.
You have to tell us your number.
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Amen! I've learned more about the military from you, OS, and DMac then I ever would if I just went about life......cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:37 pmHey, a Fan... here at the forum the learning never stops and no one ever graduates.
And that's just ONE subject.