The only fascists I can see are democrat governors and mayors reaching for more and more control. They even admit OUT LOUD give no consideration to the Bill of Rights when they MANDATE. Snitching gets rewards!DocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:45 amActually, Trump’s potential authoritarianism and the coronavirus are entirely related.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:34 amYes, that point is one you've made dozens of times...and for which Trump and crew keep providing more ammunition, almost daily. I get it, and I'm not saying that the point shouldn't be made here when there's a new reason to do so.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:28 amThere are no hard lines between subject matter any more. Trump’s deficiencies, usually appropriate subject matter under “Orange Deuce,” are almost certainly the single greatest factor in what we’re seeing in the coronavirus pandemic. Trump prioritized his own political fortunes over public health. He’s now doing it again by making a huge gamble and pressing for an early reopening of the economy. He is literally gambling with the lives of tens of thousands of Americans, just as he did in January-March.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:15 amLet's just say that I found calourie's and Salty's exchange to be heartwarming, both your and Doc's posts not so much.6ftstick wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:42 amAnyone else find this post as the new bottom here.DocBarrister wrote: ↑Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:27 am
So, if Trump somehow manages to stay in power, what will prevent Trump and his cultists from beginning to kill their perceived enemies?
Shame?
Remorse?
Compassion?
Empathy?
DocBarrister
Doc, I think this particular post belonged on Orange Duce.
Frankly, I agree with your tough view of Trump's authoritarian tendencies, his lack of empathy, his his shameless dishonesty, and the cult-like behavior of many of his supporters. However, let me make a plea that this thread be devoted more to sharing information about COVID-19, measures being taken to battle the pandemic, challenges to those efforts, etc. The study about hydoxychloroquine is very relevant and the adverse impact of hyping this drug is relevant, including the point that stupidity and dishonesty and incompetence is costing lives. As well as Barr's quite outrageous threats. But the projections about future authoritarian behavior in a second term better fits on the other thread.
Just my opinion of course.
I hear what you’re saying, but how can we possibly keep the subjects separate?
Trump’s apparent willingness to sacrifice some American lives for his political survival is perhaps the most disturbing thing I have ever seen in American politics. It is all tied together with his response to the pandemic. “Orange Deuce” and the coronavirus pandemic have become intricately, irreversibly intertwined.
DocBarrister
But the musings about where his authoritarianism, etc could take us in a second term really isn't virus related. That part has a perfect home in Orange Duce.
Authoritarianism doesn’t arise during prosperity and calm. It arises during chaos and emergency. The Nazis first came to power during the Great Depression. They were elected to become the largest party in parliament in German federal elections in July 1932.
The coronavirus pandemic is not just a threat to Trump ... it is, perversely, an opportunity.
Does anyone here think Trump was kidding when he declared himself to have “total authority?”
DocBarrister
Protect and defend the constitution—who cares about that sh*t—its ABOVE their pay grade.