All things CoronaVirus

[RedFromMI]

Florida just added 1413 cases in the last 24 hours, according to my Twitter feed (from a reporter at a Miami TV stations feed). Largest single day case increase. Has not made it into worldometer yet - they have reset for tomorrow...

[Peter Brown]

If they were brown people you wouldn't hear a peep out of MDlax. He's a champion all right, champion of identity politics.

not sure where you get that from, but sure, I do think that folks have some legit beefs based on how more dominant parts of society have treated them.

You want to call that "identity politics", I'd just call it keeping it real.

But the comment about the 'idiots' in these protests weren't about any sort of racial identity politics if that's your concern...unless you see that in the Confederate flag stuff? I guess I'd agree with you that those particular protestors probably fit into the 'idiot' category. Same for the 'idiots' carrying the assault weapons.

Point is...if anyone who you consider a Trumpist ( ) had questioned protester's intelligence as you did, and the protesters were non-white, you'd be claiming "racism" on here.

really?

Or are you saying that if someone said because they were non-white they were idiots?
Or called them idiots while waving the confederate flag perhaps?

This isn't rocket science.
Be racist and we'll know it.

Just be an idiot, whatever color, and we can know that too.

Does waving a rebel flag make a person an idiot? Does waving a BLM flag make somebody anti cop? Does waving a don't tread on me flag make someone a racist? Does waving a Betsy Ross flag also make you a racist? In America who should care what kind of flag you want to wave? The last time I checked we were all free to wave whatever flag we want. Hell if you choose to do so you can burn old glory in the street and in the eyes of some folks, that makes you a true American patriot. Any of you geniuses out there that can figure this entire mess out please advice as to what the solution is. That is what freedom means. When our government starts deciding what are good flags or bad flags this country is sliding down one very slippery slope that will not end well.

We quite agree that we have the freedom to be whatever sort of 'idiot' we prefer.

I certainly wasn't suggesting that the government or even a POTUS should be telling us what flags we should salute, which we should not.

But, yeah, if you choose to fly the Confederate battle flag I'll certainly understand that you're giving the finger to the descendants of slaves. But, hey, you might have some other intent and just be too stupid to realize the offense you are giving? Possible.

Pretty sure you'd know what flying a swastika flag meant to express, too.

On BLM, some may well intend to be offensive to police, but lots do not mean it the way those using the Confederate flag intend. They do all want less police violence disproportionate based on ethnicity. So do lots of police, btw.

The Betsy Ross flag, as we discussed, has been a recent appropriation by those wanting to send a racist message. But your having it clearly had no such meaning.

I'm strongly opposed to burning the US flag, but you and I would agree that the government shouldn't get involved.

TLD made all the point that was needed with his "Just don't kneel" post. Which went over some heads apparently.

So to make the point in a more pointed manner. How would the folks who see no problem with the flags being waved by these protestors react if instead, different protestors waving the flag of North Vietnam, or China, or Russia in an earlier age. How about Kaepernick kneeling? How about a Muslim flag of jihad?

I strongly support the rights of Democrats to fly the flag of the Chinese Communist Party, or ISIS.

Taking a knee is enough.

You should know by now that the one word never used in the DNC platform is ‘enough’. It’s never enough. This is the heartbeat why leftist governments fail.

A couple of yours





2nd amendment guys.

‘Yours’ as in ‘mine’...

Mass shooters are rarely triggered by politics.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... -religion/

Also, Tim McVeigh was from New York.

[Peter Brown]

Florida just added 1413 cases in the last 24 hours, according to my Twitter feed (from a reporter at a Miami TV stations feed). Largest single day case increase. Has not made it into worldometer yet - they have reset for tomorrow...

I thought you guys are data driven?

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/32 ... t-the-peak

[a fan]

I don't think he realizes that today's Democratic party in the US would be on the conservative side of many of the Western European countries like our oldest NATO allies.

But to him someone who is a Democrat is a fire breathing Commie (or as you say lefty-pinko-socialist)...

Really no clue.

He realizes it. He just likes to troll. His entire industry is based on the Federal largesse. And his education came from the State Government. He could have gotten his education from a private University like myself, and so many of his fellow posters. But he didn't. Why? Because he believes in big government when it benefits him...and doesn't believe in big government when it benefits others.

.....and you'll see the same attitude from countless "anti-government" crusaders around the country. Yet they're always the FIRST ones with their hands in my pockets, taking my taxdollars to subsidize their businesses and their choices.

It's why he didn't understand why AOCortez was railing BigPharma for taking taxpayers money for R&D, yet not cutting taxpayers in on the profits. To him, it makes perfect sense for businesses like his to profit off of government owned and subsidized assets.

[wgdsr]

you guys all realize you are staking your positions on %s and you don't even know what those %s are, right?

just that they should move more to one side or the other. then all would be right, problem solved.

[a fan]

you guys all realize you are staking your positions on %s and you don't even know what those %s are, right?

just that they should move more to one side or the other. then all would be right, problem solved.

My position is, my Governor giving us the green light to open my business is the least of my worries in terms of actually getting some business. But there's a small percentage of Americans who haven't figured out that the government isn't the problem here.

[wgdsr]

you guys all realize you are staking your positions on %s and you don't even know what those %s are, right?

just that they should move more to one side or the other. then all would be right, problem solved.

My position is, my Governor giving us the green light to open my business is the least of my worries in terms of actually getting some business. But there's a small percentage of Americans who haven't figured out that the government isn't the problem here.

like you a fan
your rant seemed to go a bit further.
go to a public school, that you pay taxes for, and your right to have a position on govt/size/scope is now cancelled.

just impression.

[a fan]

OH, that. I was just trolling Pete Brown who has been trolling the board for weeks now.... he attended a State School, and so I was poking his obvious hypocrisy.


I didn't mean any of that, thought that was obvious, sorry. I'm proud that my tax dollars goes toward State Universities.

[RedFromMI]

Florida just added 1413 cases in the last 24 hours, according to my Twitter feed (from a reporter at a Miami TV stations feed). Largest single day case increase. Has not made it into worldometer yet - they have reset for tomorrow...

I thought you guys are data driven?

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/32 ... t-the-peak

That is the same model that says FL should wait until 6/1 to relax SD. You have to wait far past the peak - until it is low enough you can be ready with testing and a second bounce wave does not occur. Absolute minimum of 2 weeks after peak - but more commonly around a month.

Peak is when it is at its worse. Relax now and pay in a couple of weeks - you have plenty of unfound cases out there to get a new set of hot spots.

[Brooklyn]

Also, Tim McVeigh was from New York.

A Republican influenced terrorist. That was his way of (quoting Reagan) getting government off people's backs.

[Brooklyn]

I strongly support the rights of Democrats to fly the flag of the Chinese Communist Party, or ISIS.

Your Republicans are likelier to be the ones who do that.

[6x6]

You should know by now that the one word never used in the DNC platform is ‘enough’. It’s never enough. This is the heartbeat why leftist governments fail.

America with lefty-pinko-socialist Universities like your University of Florida is doing just fine.

...although I will admit, after reading post after post from this Forum's most famous University of Florida graduate, this taxpayer would like the money he put toward your "education" back.

Please. It's like you slept through every History class...... it's just painful to watch....

I don't think he realizes that today's Democratic party in the US would be on the conservative side of many of the Western European countries like our oldest NATO allies.

But to him someone who is a Democrat is a fire breathing Commie (or as you say lefty-pinko-socialist)...

Really no clue.

While I don’t disagree with you about PB, there are also an abundance of Democrats on here that voice similar opinions about Republicans or conservatives.

[a fan]

Yes. His name is DocB. And Pete has turned out to be as big of a troll as Doc, although I'll readily admit that Doc gets more personal with his ridiculous and frankly offensive slurs towards any fellow poster who doesn't follow his over the top pronouncements.

Everyone else? Yep the occasional jab at actual Republicans....but 99% of it is directed at Trump....and Trump isn't a conservative. Not even close. You can criticize Trump all day long for his non-conservative policies. He's just a d*ck, and deserves his lumps.

Conservatives of my day could hardly recognize the 2020 Republicans....and would point out their foibles with ease and relish. MDLax is a pretty nice example of that. 2020 Republicans aren't conservative. They're spendy, reckless hypocrites.

The board, imho is socially center, and fiscally on the right. Brookie is on the left. RRR is on the left.

The rest of us? dotted around the center in one slight direction or another, depending on the issue. Aside from those mentioned, there aren't any of us on far left or far right.

I find it hilarious that Pete has wandered on to a lacrosse forum, with a bunch of East Coast lax fans, many of whom attended some pretty fine colleges, including military academies....and assumed we're all anarchists and hardcore lefties, instead of the much more likely modest righties or modest lefties. Which is what we are.

[Brooklyn]

Brookie is on the left.

Brookie is a political Realist, not leftie nor anything else.

If you have read my posts you know that I affirm the ideals of our Founders many of which are dismissed as "Marxist" by delusional righties today even though they were expounded and implemented decades before Marx was born.

[Cooter]

Better than being dead. We're all valuing the "life" part of that "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" thing....

I'm not. I need the other two things, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to value life.

A man thrown in prison has life, but lacks the other things - it is considered a punishment in this country.

[Brooklyn]

RRR is on the left.

Correction: Black hole.



As for PB, while he is entitlted to his views it is obvious that he subscribes to political delusionalism.

[Brooklyn]

Thought for today and tomorrow:

[Cooter]

What does that have to do with the coronavirus?

[a fan]

I'm not. I need the other two things, liberty and the pursuit of happiness to value life.

A man thrown in prison has life, but lacks the other things - it is considered a punishment in this country.

We ALL need the other two things. There isn't a single person happy about losing their freedoms, not even Jeff Bezos.

You are temporarily sacrificing your hard earned freedoms and pursuit of happiness to save the lives of your fellow Americans.

In particular, you're reducing the odds that our 1st responders and health care workers....cops, nurses, doctors, et. al......from being overwhelmed, and succumbing to this *hitty virus. Thats a noble thing. Take pride that our nation thinks that much of these selfless people for a change.

We're almost there. Yep, it sucks. Yep, I hate it too. But I'm willing to do this for the sake of those people.

And as I said before, even after the .gov says you're free to go...you're going to find out that the free market is going to limit you from your previous free movement more than the government will.

So even though the .gov says you can visit a elderly care home.....it's not unlikely that they'll still have their own lockdown procedures. Or, as I tried to wager with Pete Brown....that the NBA players and/or owners may be unwilling to play even though the .gov says they can play.

Just sayin'. Don't be surprised.

[Brooklyn]

What does that have to do with the coronavirus?

Well, if you think for a minute (a not altogether difficult task for most people) there have been back-and-forth discussions about the consequences of the previous election on the current crisis. For example, as I'm sure you are aware, we have discussed Trump_Stupid's decisions to undermine the CDC, the failure of that agency to properly execute its duties thanks to his incompetence, Dump's decision to issue visas to those who came from areas infected with the plague, the failure of leadership in other regards, his divisiveness, etc. Now, some of you on this forum succumb to the delusionalism of right wing political correctness so you may not want the USA to take a different direction politically. But those of us who care for the USA and for everyone within it much prefer to take a wiser political direction. All this has been hinted at previously on this thread.