All things CoronaVirus

[a fan]

Remember when I said weeks ago to just cut checks. And every thousand dollars per month per taxpayer would be a piddly $150Billion

This is why. There's NO WAY our unemployment system can handle all the means testing red tape nonsense and get money back into the economy.

This is why having millionaires like Pelosi and McConnell is so bad. They don't get it.



“Everyone we talk to in that office when we ask them what happened tells us, ‘the system was designed to fail,’” the adviser said. “That’s not a problem when unemployment is 2.8 percent, but it’s a problem now. And no system we have can handle 25,000 people a day.”

https://www.politico.com/states/florida ... mp-1271172

[njbill]

The science is in the infancy stage when it comes to understanding this virus. They do not have the slightest idea why some folks die with pre- existing conditions and other wise healthy people die albeit in smaller numbers. My wife has taken to heart the opinion of one her doctors at Rochester General. She has said we don't know what the f**k we are dealing with. This thing does not act like anything they have dealt with before. When it hits your lungs you are in big trouble no matter who you are.

I heard Fauci say essentially this the other day to Anderson Cooper. The best scientists simply don’t know why some healthy comparatively young people get very, very sick, while most don’t. Of course, the “mild” symptoms you hear about still sound pretty serious to me.

[RedFromMI]

From Florida (of course) Twitter (actually Leon County, which is where the capital Tallahassee is located):

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[foreverlax]

Private jets = conspicuous consumption. Doesn’t reflect broader distress. I’d imagine some yacht sales have occurred but not sure with depreciation and an unclear future how much of a fire sale it is. Worked on

a $45mm credit (group of loans) to a mid sized boat manufacturer in SC and their bank had increasingly loosed terms the past few years, taking the debt to non-recourse, dividend recap loan to owner, etc. have to assume that business and the bank associated have problems now but the bank could’ve maintained certain protections had they of chosen to ho la the line.

You actually sound like one of the more intelligent posters here...praying you're not a Dem, but if so, that's okay; with age comes wisdom. You just can't help yourself. You are consistent, if nothing else.

Your reply has me thinking. Good for you! First time for everything...

[Peter Brown]

Private jets = conspicuous consumption. Doesn’t reflect broader distress. I’d imagine some yacht sales have occurred but not sure with depreciation and an unclear future how much of a fire sale it is. Worked on

a $45mm credit (group of loans) to a mid sized boat manufacturer in SC and their bank had increasingly loosed terms the past few years, taking the debt to non-recourse, dividend recap loan to owner, etc. have to assume that business and the bank associated have problems now but the bank could’ve maintained certain protections had they of chosen to ho la the line.

You actually sound like one of the more intelligent posters here...praying you're not a Dem, but if so, that's okay; with age comes wisdom. You just can't help yourself. You are consistent, if nothing else.

Your reply has me thinking. Good for you! First time for everything...

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[foreverlax]

The science is in the infancy stage when it comes to understanding this virus. They do not have the slightest idea why some folks die with pre- existing conditions and other wise healthy people die albeit in smaller numbers. My wife has taken to heart the opinion of one her doctors at Rochester General. She has said we don't know what the f**k we are dealing with. This thing does not act like anything they have dealt with before. When it hits your lungs you are in big trouble no matter who you are.

I heard Fauci say essentially this the other day to Anderson Cooper. The best scientists simply don’t know why some healthy comparatively young people get very, very sick, while most don’t. Of course, the “mild” symptoms you hear about still sound pretty serious to me.

My buddy's son-in-law, late 20's...played d3 hoops and can hike for days, hopped on a Peloton for the first time and came in first. - he came back from out west, positive test, 101 for 2-3 days...pretty much a nbd.

The daughter lives with him - asymptotic, still.

[jhu72]

A real governor

[Laxgunea]

Good news. Looks like monkeys develop antibodies to corona. There's hope for this list! (self included)

[Peter Brown]

Good news. Looks like monkeys develop antibodies to corona. There's hope for this list! (self included)

Excellent news!! Do you have a link?

[foreverlax]

Private jets = conspicuous consumption. Doesn’t reflect broader distress. I’d imagine some yacht sales have occurred but not sure with depreciation and an unclear future how much of a fire sale it is. Worked on

a $45mm credit (group of loans) to a mid sized boat manufacturer in SC and their bank had increasingly loosed terms the past few years, taking the debt to non-recourse, dividend recap loan to owner, etc. have to assume that business and the bank associated have problems now but the bank could’ve maintained certain protections had they of chosen to ho la the line.

You actually sound like one of the more intelligent posters here...praying you're not a Dem, but if so, that's okay; with age comes wisdom. You just can't help yourself. You are consistent, if nothing else.

Your reply has me thinking. Good for you! First time for everything...

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There is some bliss within ignorance...enjoy!

[tech37]

Good news. Looks like monkeys develop antibodies to corona. There's hope for this list! (self included)

Excellent news!! Do you have a link?

It's the missing link.

boooo...

[Peter Brown]

Hmmm, now I am not one to critique a politician who is simply trying their level-best to deal in very difficult circumstances, however we need to be sensitive to any time when Democrats get too in touch with their authoritarian impulses. Plus if anything occurs which impacts those great lacrosse players from upstate New York, I can think of no other online forum which needs to have their voices heard than Fanlax.

Andrew Cuomo has basically instituted martial law by declaring that he will now seize ventilators from upstate NY and transport them downstate. This order will be carried out by The National Guard of NY. If you are an upstate NY hospital or own a private practice anywhere in the state of NY, your assets are subject to seizure.

I'm not entirely down with this power move. Maybe necessary, also maybe short-sighted, definitely unconstitutional.

What says the Upstaters of NY State here?

[Laxgunea]

Good news. Looks like monkeys develop antibodies to corona. There's hope for this list! (self included)

Excellent news!! Do you have a link?

doi:10.1101/2020.03.13.990226, 2020.
I see it is 2 weeks old.
The better news: keep taking high blood pressure meds!
the-scientist.com/news-opinion/blood-pressure-meds-point-the-way-to-possible-covid-19-treatment-67371

[Laxgunea]

Hmmm, now I am not one to critique a politician who is simply trying their level-best to deal in very difficult circumstances, however we need to be sensitive to any time when Democrats get too in touch with their authoritarian impulses. Plus if anything occurs which impacts those great lacrosse players from upstate New York, I can think of no other online forum which needs to have their voices heard than Fanlax.

Andrew Cuomo has basically instituted martial law by declaring that he will now seize ventilators from upstate NY and transport them downstate. This order will be carried out by The National Guard of NY. If you are an upstate NY hospital or own a private practice anywhere in the state of NY, your assets are subject to seizure.

I'm not entirely down with this power move. Maybe necessary, also maybe short-sighted, definitely unconstitutional.

What says the Upstaters of NY State here?

A cold response: makes no difference if it turns out ventilators don't help.
But I'll add, as a far left lefty ... far beyond Bernie ... Downstate sends us garbage and poop (yup ... local landfills accept sewage ... ) so I am not surprised at anything else they might try.

[tech37]

Good news. Looks like monkeys develop antibodies to corona. There's hope for this list! (self included)

Excellent news!! Do you have a link?

doi:10.1101/2020.03.13.990226, 2020.
I see it is 2 weeks old.
The better news: keep taking high blood pressure meds!
the-scientist.com/news-opinion/blood-pressure-meds-point-the-way-to-possible-covid-19-treatment-67371

Whoa laxgun...these links are not going to work. If you can fix the links I'd like to see the articles too. Just copy and paste the URL at top from article when it's open.

[runrussellrun]

Remember when I said weeks ago to just cut checks. And every thousand dollars per month per taxpayer would be a piddly $150Billion

This is why. There's NO WAY our unemployment system can handle all the means testing red tape nonsense and get money back into the economy.

This is why having millionaires like Pelosi and McConnell is so bad. They don't get it.



“Everyone we talk to in that office when we ask them what happened tells us, ‘the system was designed to fail,’” the adviser said. “That’s not a problem when unemployment is 2.8 percent, but it’s a problem now. And no system we have can handle 25,000 people a day.”

https://www.politico.com/states/florida ... mp-1271172

TAATS

[Jim Malone]

Governor Cuomo ordered the National Guard to reallocate "UNUSED" ventilators and medical equipment to areas where there are not enough resources.

Stop putting ridiculous spins on it.

He is doing what leaders do during wartime for crying out loud.

Some of you are real pieces of work.

20 f'in deaths an hour around me!

[Carroll81]

Media has begun the COVER YOUR rump phase.

Could all this misery have been avoided.

What?
On Tuesday, professors of medicine at Stanford University, Dr. Bendavid and Dr. Bhattacharya, released statistical data that shows the estimated death rates of the novel coronavirus, or COVID-19, are likely “orders of magnitude too high.”Models that have been used by government officials project that million of Americans, 2.2-4 million, will perish from COVID-19 if no precautions are taken, peaking in June. But after looking at data samples from places like Wuhan, China, where the virus originated, hard-hit northeast Italy, Iceland, and the United States, our nation may be looking at a .01 death rate, which is a ten-fold lower death rate than that of the flu and equating to some 20,000-40,000 deaths total, the study found.

Experts, Trump’s advisers doubt White House’s 240,000 coronavirus deaths estimate
by William Wan, Josh Dawsey, Ashley Parker and Joel Achenbach, Washington Post, Updated: April 3, 2020- 6:26 AM

What? Who developed the FN model

https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronav ... 00403.html

What?
Epidemiologist Behind Highly-Cited Coronavirus Model Drastically Downgrades Projection
https://www.dailywire.com/news/epidemio ... ises-model

All Models are wrong. Some models are useful. - W. Deming

[njbill]

A real governor

He (Md) certainly belongs in the top group of governors. I would add Ohio and Michigan. No. 1 is Calif. He was very early in getting ahead of things. His actions are now paying dividends.

In the next group I would put NY (he has had the toughest job but I think was a little bit behind the curve early on); NJ (a little disappointed in my governor given our numbers, but has done a pretty good job); PA (late to close the entire state, plus has been lucky with the lack of numbers, but he gets it and did close the key areas rather early).

Bringing up the rear: Mississippi (acted idiotically early, but was one of the earlier southern states to close; props for that); Florida (very very late to the party, didn’t cancel spring break, didn’t close the beaches early enough, very late to shut down his state, especially given the numbers, waffling back and forth on allowing religious group to congregate ).

While Florida was ahead until yesterday, Georgia’s governor gets the booby prize with his comment that “we only found out yesterday this thing is contagious.”

Omitting a lot, to be sure, simply because I don’t have much information on the others.

Feel free to add names, commentary, criticisms. Pete, feel free to defend your BFF, St. Ron.

[njbill]

Good news. Looks like monkeys develop antibodies to corona. There's hope for this list! (self included)

Excellent news!! Do you have a link?

It's the missing link.

boooo...

Good one.