runrussellrun wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:30 am
wrhuradio wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:28 pm
wgdsr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:06 am
1st - loi's signed in the fall... that's a commitment to receive scholarship money. with even partials, i'm assuming the number is spelled out for the next year as the athlete is giving up rights. i also don't recall any players not landing after signing an nli.
2nd - kids just got their season cut short. the country is in lockdown. kids have protection, according to you, of their last year's scholly... your running people off the team scenarios in this instance seem far fetched.
no offense, you don't seem to know what you're talking about. happy to be corrected.
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Recruited walkons DO sign LOI's. Because they are 1-year deals, say a player signs an LOI but his deal with the coach is year 1 they get no money, year 2 they get 10%, and so on as their role increases.
Scenarios that you see players that sign LOIs that dont make it have to do with not getting the financial aid packages they were expecting (other than athletic $) not qualifying academically. Look at the rosters annually at Nassau CC. You'll see guys there that were reportedly verbally committed to Div 1 programs that dont make it there.
This is not including coaching changes that occur which opens up floodgates even more.
Unfortunately we can't cross reference enough information on this since very very few Div. 1 programs announce their November signees, but coaches like to announce their recruited walkons signings too when there are releases. Look at Div 1/FCS Football programs
2-Yes, the kids appear to be protected of the percentage of $ they are getting in 2020. However, it wouldnt be the first time a player is 'recruited over" and then the choice becomes Do I stay or try to go elsewhere.
Is this like paying for a "conversation", instead a "RobbieKraft ending" ? What is a recruit walkon?
runrussellrun: A recruited walk-on is a common term, also know as a preferred walkon. It's a player that coaches have specifically targeted and invited to their programs to walk-on, (or play for free). Typically its someone the coaches feel would be great practice or program players, high academic kids, and sometimes they see as possible future scholarship players so they offer them to walkon with the chance to earn $ in the future.
It's like being an intern as a college athlete.
You'll hear the term "true walkon" mentioned; that's when a guy is not known by the coaching staff and shows up for regular student body walkon tryouts, and makes the team.
In lacrosse, 3rd and & 4th goalies have a lot of recruited walkons. It's very hard to justify paying those goalies much more than a token amount but you have to have them as insurance policies because it is a position of high injury risk.
Same in Men's & Women's Soccer. In Men's soccer at 9.9 scholarships you normally can't justify paying a 3rd goalie anything more than a small percentage unless you have great scholarship savings elsewhere on the team that are highly productive players relative to their cost.
In college football- FBS/FCS rosters are loaded with recruited walkons. backup QBs, Kickers, Punters, Long-snappers comprise a chunk of recruited walk-ons, and down the road you see some of them go on full scholarship, usually senior years or when they are no doubt starters and a late scholarship popped up in August due to a transfer, injury retirement etc. Coaches do this because as an industry they feel they are not worth full scholarships. FBS limit is 85 FCS limit is 64. FBS Coaches would rather have a 13th offensive lineman than spend a scholarship on a long snapper, that could not even end up being the starter and then they consider them dead weight.
You'll see say 4 Kickers on Alabama's roster- the starter is sometimes on scholarship, the other 3 are not. When the starter graduates, its possible the new starter in spring practice earns a scholarship for the next year if he appears to be that rock solid.
