youthathletics wrote:You are good, really good, like politician good. Remind me to never play chess with you
Too many philosophy classes is the culprit here. Defend your position in front of a room full of people....and it was sink or swim. And lacrosse taught me that I hate to lose.
youthathletics wrote:How can you complain about Trump all day long, our spending on military preparedness, then move on to the lack of infrastructure spending, then move onto free health care spending, then try and say conservatives are turning in to liberals. Good lord afan, you make it sound like conservatives have no heart, empathy, and all they want to do is blow up $h1t....c'mon.
Dislaxxic is spot on with this one. There's a context.
The context is: your party brought our country to a grinding halt while feigning "fiscal responsibility", remember? No spending bill, unless it's revenue neutral. And they played that game for years.
I've pointed this out dozens of times now: if $2.7 Trillion in new spending----while borrowing all of it----- is what you Republican voters wanted, why didn't you get off your duffs and demand that your Republican party do just that? You didn't. What did you do instead? You DEMANDED that Obama get spending under control, remember? So that's what he did. The sequester cut Federal spending for the first time since 1953. So you should have LOVED Obama, right?
Nope. What did you do instead? You railed against him for a "lackluster" economy, even though we were getting growth of ~2% GDP per year. And the military whined about being "hollowed out". As if Obama wanted that. Nope. That was you and your merry band of voters who apparently can't find a working calculator, nor recognize who is in charge of Federal spending (hint: the Republican Congress was in charge of that) asked for...
So it's simple: what do you supposed would have happened had McConnell insisted that Obama spend $2.7 Trillion on new spending, putting every dime on the credit card, while only $700 Billion of that spending is on the military?
Take a WILD guess.
So my point is: if this is what you and your fellow dumb&ss (
) Republican voters wanted, Obama would have been OVERJOYED to give it to you all the way back in 2010! But you didn't. You told him to cut spending. So we got a hollowed out overtasked military....things like Navy Ships running into each other, killing sailors....and the bottom 50% of Americans, Trump's forgotten voters, had a tough time because less borrowed Federal money was pumping through the economy.
You ASKED Obama to do that. Own your decision. Take the consequences like a man, and blame yourself for the outcome.
youthathletics wrote:Peel this back....technology advances at an immeasurable pace we MUST spend as necessary to be "that country" the has our interest first, then helps those in the EU/ all over....that's what good people do (regardless of left or right) see we do have a heart. If we do not have a robust able military we are like them, vulnerable. You throw around that our kids are going to pay for this...you are not that naive, at no point in the recent history have our children suffered.
You don't think that your kids have suffered because of our fiscal profligacy?
My dad attended Syracuse by working summers in construction. Now what construction job can pay the 2018 $50K+ in tuition at SU? And that's just one example. Print this post out, and put it on your mirror. We're in for a rough ride in the coming decades as all the consumer, Federal, State, and corporate debt bills arrive.
youthathletics wrote:Our safety should not ever be in question. I bet your EMR rating is concerning to you, remember...safety first-fun second.
Not one workplace accident in 19 full years of operation. I'm more proud of that than any award we've ever won for our spirits. So yep, you got me on this one!
youthathletics wrote:All Trump is doing is what each of us do in our own homes. We provide a safe place for a family as best we can....I bet even most have an alarm system. Think about it this way, if half that caravan ended up in the local park next to your house, you'd be livid, and I bet you'd install a security system if you did not already have one.....safety first.
Oh, I'm on the record for turning that caravan away. But that doesn't change my position that, as I predicted, the Republicans wouldn't come even close to passing an immigration reform bill. They don't want to fix the problem----they want to keep their supporters angry, and voting for them. Republican voters didn't bother noticing that Republicans controlled both Houses and the White House, and could have passed any reasonable Reform bill with ease. They just had to get off their butts and do it.
What did we get instead? A bunch of excuses, and status quo. Just as I said they would. Congressional Republicans find it far more valuable to stoke fear, and blame "others' for not fixing the problem. And voters buy it hook, line, and sinker. And blame everyone but the Republican reps that they voted into office.
youthathletics wrote:I think in the end, we all just like the dialogue, at least on here. Be good.
Without question! My favorite posters are the ones I "argue" with the most. I adore old salt and guys like tech37 or you yourself. What fun would this place be if we all agreed on everything!
And it's always fun, and surprising, finding the things that we do agree on.....
Have a great weekend!