I believe his approach would require a level of organization which I don't believe our current federal government is actually capable of. And in addition, probably much more testing than we are capable of at first.ggait wrote: ↑Mon Mar 23, 2020 6:56 pmPete -- That Ginn guy's ideas and argument just suck. That isn't censorship by the lefties. It is the free marketplace of ideas, after review/reflection, deciding that the guy doesn't know what-the-fork he's talking about. And because of the bull shirt assymetry principle, it is a lot easier to create the bull shirt than to (rightly) debunk.Peter Brown wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:06 pm
Whether or not you agree with Ginn’s arguments for, say, reopening schools, people like Ginn are asking some important and detailed questions about what we know about the progress of the coronavirus.
Peter Brown wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:06 pm
But it is unhelpful and hazardous to ignore the real, human costs of protracted lockdowns, which will require increasily strong justifications the longer they drag on.
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Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:06 pm
Which if you allow yourself to read and not burn books, was his thesis.
In contrast, this guy (a doc at Yale) makes a somewhat similar argument. But his arguments are just a lot better and (by the way) he's much more qualified. TBD what the marketplace of ideas will say about his take. FYI, I have no idea what Dr. Katz's politics are. But I'd note that his oped was published by the commie pinko NY Times (and later amplified by NYT's Tom Friedman).
So please retire the tired partisan ax grinding. If you want to engage over ideas, bring it. And if I disagree with you, it will be because of your facts or logics. Not your partisan slant.
Let me know your thoughts on Katz's views. I myself am quite concerned about the economic cost of curing this disease.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/opin ... Position=2
We have let this situation get out of hand, and because we don't know the real level of infected carriers, it may be too late to try something like his approach. Trump for the most part has tried to foist too much of the responsibility on the states - I think so he can blame them when the wheels really come off.
Now the current briefing seems to be a good portion of Trump touting that we cannot just shut down the entire country (which actually has not happened yet). I cannot help but believe that having to shut down his hotels in FL/NJ/etc have to be weighing on him.
Now if you had gotten preparations earlier, you could do more selective shutdowns and better contact tracing to tamp down outbreaks locally. But I am afraid the numbers say we are in for a world of hurt with respect to the virus...