Having fun with make believe AA's for 2020

[getitdone]

OK here are my "rules" Only 3 A, M, and D. 1 Fogo per team, plus 2 SSDM, and 1 LSM plus 1 Goalie.

1st team Attack-
M Sowers Princeton Outstanding year
C Gray UNC Had no idea he could he could shoot like that plus great playmakre
G Ament Penn St Outstanding playmaker

2nd team Attack
J. Bernhardt MD Concede L W has more points, but he is their best player
M Okeefe MD Probably best shooter in country
L Wisnaukas MD

3rd team Attack
E Walker UVA 2nd best shooter in country
B Nichtern Army
C Scanlon Cuse

With apologies to Matt Moore at UVA. H could easily be on 3rd. Who would you take off? J Carraway at Gtown also is in that mix.

1st team Midfield
J Anderson UNC Do it all middie
T Cook UNC Physically dominant and has improved his shooting dramatically
C Fletcher Cornell Much like Cook

2nd team Middie
B Curry Cuse
T. LeClaire OSU
J Hannah Denver

3rd team Middie
N. Montgomery Duke
O Caputo Duke
T Dordevic Cuse

1st team Defense
J T Giles Harris Duke
C Saustad UVA
C Fake Yale
Here is where the fun starts because I did not see anyone else that I could feel legit about putting here Most of the best D1 teams were loaded on the O side and had weaknesses on the D side

1st team goalies
Adler St. Joes helped drive a very nice comeback year for them.
Van De Bovenkamp does not have much of a D in front of him and he gets peppered so his stats are inflated but he is good.
E Peters Princeton was the best that I saw this year.
Deluca UD had some unimpressive games this year
S Shafer Loyola also had some very good games

1st team FOGO
TD Ierlan Yale

2nd and 3rd team
I don't have enough All the returnees had awesome days and so so days like Arceri at Penn St LaSalla at UVA Savio at Loyola

1st team LSM
R McNulty Loyola

2nds team
J Connors UVA

3rd team
B Salvatore Cornell Might be a little high here

Finally SSDM 1st team
Terefenko OSU
P Dearth Cuse

2nd team
Did not see enough to put someone here.

[kramerica.inc]

It is a reasonable list. Pretty accurate from the games I saw this year.

Probably not worthy of making 1-3 team, but So. Garrett Degnon was looking like a nice surprise HM Midfielder for the Jays. Probably a lone bright spot for Hopkins this year.

[10stone5]

1st team Attack-
M Sowers Princeton
G Ament Penn St

Jeff Teat Cornell

Teat’s 1st team

[jrn19]

OK here are my "rules" Only 3 A, M, and D. 1 Fogo per team, plus 2 SSDM, and 1 LSM plus 1 Goalie.

1st team Attack-
M Sowers Princeton Outstanding year
C Gray UNC Had no idea he could he could shoot like that plus great playmakre
G Ament Penn St Outstanding playmaker

2nd team Attack
J. Bernhardt MD Concede L W has more points, but he is their best player
M Okeefe MD Probably best shooter in country
L Wisnaukas MD

3rd team Attack
E Walker UVA 2nd best shooter in country
B Nichtern Army
C Scanlon Cuse

With apologies to Matt Moore at UVA. H could easily be on 3rd. Who would you take off? J Carraway at Gtown also is in that mix.

1st team Midfield
J Anderson UNC Do it all middie
T Cook UNC Physically dominant and has improved his shooting dramatically
C Fletcher Cornell Much like Cook

2nd team Middie
B Curry Cuse
T. LeClaire OSU
J Hannah Denver

3rd team Middie
N. Montgomery Duke
O Caputo Duke
T Dordevic Cuse

1st team Defense
J T Giles Harris Duke
C Saustad UVA
C Fake Yale
Here is where the fun starts because I did not see anyone else that I could feel legit about putting here Most of the best D1 teams were loaded on the O side and had weaknesses on the D side

1st team goalies
Adler St. Joes helped drive a very nice comeback year for them.
Van De Bovenkamp does not have much of a D in front of him and he gets peppered so his stats are inflated but he is good.
E Peters Princeton was the best that I saw this year.
Deluca UD had some unimpressive games this year
S Shafer Loyola also had some very good games

1st team FOGO
TD Ierlan Yale

2nd and 3rd team
I don't have enough All the returnees had awesome days and so so days like Arceri at Penn St LaSalla at UVA Savio at Loyola

1st team LSM
R McNulty Loyola

2nds team
J Connors UVA

3rd team
B Salvatore Cornell Might be a little high here

Finally SSDM 1st team
Terefenko OSU
P Dearth Cuse

2nd team
Did not see enough to put someone here.

I'd take Walker out pretty easily. Moore had 1.5 more points per game. Walker didn't even come close to cracking the Top 30 in points per game. Good player, but a lot of guys i'd choose over him.

[Cooter]

In the OSU games that I watched, Tre LeClaire was playing attack.
LeClaire has put up nice numbers with 26g - 8a and 34 pts in 7 games.
He had 2 big games right before the break with 5g,1a against Notre Dame, and 6g, 2a against Cornell.

[ABClaxfan]

OK here are my "rules" Only 3 A, M, and D. 1 Fogo per team, plus 2 SSDM, and 1 LSM plus 1 Goalie.

1st team Attack-
M Sowers Princeton Outstanding year
C Gray UNC Had no idea he could he could shoot like that plus great playmakre
G Ament Penn St Outstanding playmaker

2nd team Attack
J. Bernhardt MD Concede L W has more points, but he is their best player
M Okeefe MD Probably best shooter in country
L Wisnaukas MD

3rd team Attack
E Walker UVA 2nd best shooter in country
B Nichtern Army
C Scanlon Cuse

With apologies to Matt Moore at UVA. H could easily be on 3rd. Who would you take off? J Carraway at Gtown also is in that mix.

1st team Midfield
J Anderson UNC Do it all middie
T Cook UNC Physically dominant and has improved his shooting dramatically
C Fletcher Cornell Much like Cook

2nd team Middie
B Curry Cuse
T. LeClaire OSU
J Hannah Denver

3rd team Middie
N. Montgomery Duke
O Caputo Duke
T Dordevic Cuse

1st team Defense
J T Giles Harris Duke
C Saustad UVA
C Fake Yale
Here is where the fun starts because I did not see anyone else that I could feel legit about putting here Most of the best D1 teams were loaded on the O side and had weaknesses on the D side

1st team goalies
Adler St. Joes helped drive a very nice comeback year for them.
Van De Bovenkamp does not have much of a D in front of him and he gets peppered so his stats are inflated but he is good.
E Peters Princeton was the best that I saw this year.
Deluca UD had some unimpressive games this year
S Shafer Loyola also had some very good games

1st team FOGO
TD Ierlan Yale

2nd and 3rd team
I don't have enough All the returnees had awesome days and so so days like Arceri at Penn St LaSalla at UVA Savio at Loyola

1st team LSM
R McNulty Loyola

2nds team
J Connors UVA

3rd team
B Salvatore Cornell Might be a little high here

Finally SSDM 1st team
Terefenko OSU
P Dearth Cuse

2nd team
Did not see enough to put someone here.

I have a few issues with this list

1.) C Saustad is a great player, but he didn’t play in a game this year so if not sure if it’s possible to justify him as an All American.

2.) Someone else already stated this, but Teat is a first team All American.

3.) Trimboli was arguably the best midfielder for Syracuse this year and I’d argue that he could be considered an All American.

[cu21]

OK here are my "rules" Only 3 A, M, and D. 1 Fogo per team, plus 2 SSDM, and 1 LSM plus 1 Goalie.

1st team Attack-
M Sowers Princeton Outstanding year
C Gray UNC Had no idea he could he could shoot like that plus great playmakre
G Ament Penn St Outstanding playmaker

2nd team Attack
J. Bernhardt MD Concede L W has more points, but he is their best player
M Okeefe MD Probably best shooter in country
L Wisnaukas MD

3rd team Attack
E Walker UVA 2nd best shooter in country
B Nichtern Army
C Scanlon

I’m sorry but any list without Jeff Teat on at least the second team simply can’t be accepted. I think it’s almost impossible to not put him on the first team but to not have him on the second team never mind the third team is criminal and simply fails to recognize his impact on the game and offense. Go ask any defense who is a bigger disaster to face this Cornell offense of MD offense.

[Typical Lax Dad]

OK here are my "rules" Only 3 A, M, and D. 1 Fogo per team, plus 2 SSDM, and 1 LSM plus 1 Goalie.

1st team Attack-
M Sowers Princeton Outstanding year
C Gray UNC Had no idea he could he could shoot like that plus great playmakre
G Ament Penn St Outstanding playmaker

2nd team Attack
J. Bernhardt MD Concede L W has more points, but he is their best player
M Okeefe MD Probably best shooter in country
L Wisnaukas MD

3rd team Attack
E Walker UVA 2nd best shooter in country
B Nichtern Army
C Scanlon Cuse

With apologies to Matt Moore at UVA. H could easily be on 3rd. Who would you take off? J Carraway at Gtown also is in that mix.

1st team Midfield
J Anderson UNC Do it all middie
T Cook UNC Physically dominant and has improved his shooting dramatically
C Fletcher Cornell Much like Cook

2nd team Middie
B Curry Cuse
T. LeClaire OSU
J Hannah Denver

3rd team Middie
N. Montgomery Duke
O Caputo Duke
T Dordevic Cuse

1st team Defense
J T Giles Harris Duke
C Saustad UVA
C Fake Yale
Here is where the fun starts because I did not see anyone else that I could feel legit about putting here Most of the best D1 teams were loaded on the O side and had weaknesses on the D side

1st team goalies
Adler St. Joes helped drive a very nice comeback year for them.
Van De Bovenkamp does not have much of a D in front of him and he gets peppered so his stats are inflated but he is good.
E Peters Princeton was the best that I saw this year.
Deluca UD had some unimpressive games this year
S Shafer Loyola also had some very good games

1st team FOGO
TD Ierlan Yale

2nd and 3rd team
I don't have enough All the returnees had awesome days and so so days like Arceri at Penn St LaSalla at UVA Savio at Loyola

1st team LSM
R McNulty Loyola

2nds team
J Connors UVA

3rd team
B Salvatore Cornell Might be a little high here

Finally SSDM 1st team
Terefenko OSU
P Dearth Cuse

2nd team
Did not see enough to put someone here.

Jeff Teat may be 1st team and LeClaire plays attack.

[RedIvy]

OK here are my "rules" Only 3 A, M, and D. 1 Fogo per team, plus 2 SSDM, and 1 LSM plus 1 Goalie.

1st team Attack-
M Sowers Princeton Outstanding year
C Gray UNC Had no idea he could he could shoot like that plus great playmakre
G Ament Penn St Outstanding playmaker

2nd team Attack
J. Bernhardt MD Concede L W has more points, but he is their best player
M Okeefe MD Probably best shooter in country
L Wisnaukas MD

3rd team Attack
E Walker UVA 2nd best shooter in country
B Nichtern Army
C Scanlon Cuse

With apologies to Matt Moore at UVA. H could easily be on 3rd. Who would you take off? J Carraway at Gtown also is in that mix.

1st team Midfield
J Anderson UNC Do it all middie
T Cook UNC Physically dominant and has improved his shooting dramatically
C Fletcher Cornell Much like Cook

2nd team Middie
B Curry Cuse
T. LeClaire OSU
J Hannah Denver

3rd team Middie
N. Montgomery Duke
O Caputo Duke
T Dordevic Cuse

1st team Defense
J T Giles Harris Duke
C Saustad UVA
C Fake Yale
Here is where the fun starts because I did not see anyone else that I could feel legit about putting here Most of the best D1 teams were loaded on the O side and had weaknesses on the D side

1st team goalies
Adler St. Joes helped drive a very nice comeback year for them.
Van De Bovenkamp does not have much of a D in front of him and he gets peppered so his stats are inflated but he is good.
E Peters Princeton was the best that I saw this year.
Deluca UD had some unimpressive games this year
S Shafer Loyola also had some very good games

1st team FOGO
TD Ierlan Yale

2nd and 3rd team
I don't have enough All the returnees had awesome days and so so days like Arceri at Penn St LaSalla at UVA Savio at Loyola

1st team LSM
R McNulty Loyola

2nds team
J Connors UVA

3rd team
B Salvatore Cornell Might be a little high here

Finally SSDM 1st team
Terefenko OSU
P Dearth Cuse

2nd team
Did not see enough to put someone here.

Hard to give any Credibility to any post following this without Jeff Teat. In the tewarrton thread Teat is number two....

Please tell us this was just a big oversight........

[Comeonman]

A Sowers, Princeton
A Gray, North Carolina
A Ament, Penn State

M Cook, North Carolina
M Hannah, Denver
M Kirst, Villanova

D Kennedy, Villanova
D Adler, Cornell
D Eddy, Boston

SSDM Dearth, Syracuse

LSM McNulty, Loyola

FO Ierlan, Yale

G McElroy, Georgetown

[getitdone]

OK I admit I had Teat as second team initially and talked my way out of it to put Wisnaukas on that team. He just had way more points. I then forgot about him on 3rd team. Even if I don't go by stats and that can't be your only reasoning to have someone on a team then I am left with Teat, Bernhardt, and O'Keefe. I am good with that. Plus this is the 2020 AA team not the 2018. Teat's soph year he was amazing-every possession it ran through him and he was much better than Sowers. This year the table has turned plus Piatelli and Long are also really good and they have reduced the pressure on him.
3rd team Attack then goes to L Wisnaukas MD, Scanlon, Cuse and E Walker Denver. Walker does not really have an attack running mate that takes the pressure off him. Middies yes but attack no.

I did make another mistake with Saustad on D. They had both a good close and their longpole was also very good. I picked the wrong name. As far as Trimboli, I think he is their 3rd best middie. Again just my take as I like what the other two Cuse middies bring to the table. That being said he would get HM AA.

LeClaire played attack and was run out of the box as well. You can put him anywhere and my thinking was that as long as he got what he deserved then it did not matter. The guy is a very good player who is also up there as far as best shooters in the game.

Kirst- I simply did not see play.

Adler D Cornell- I saw him play 3 times. He is good on ball but off ball he is a nightmare. Causes as many problems off ball for the team D because he lacks the team D concept. Sorry now way 1st team. Again just an opinion.

[stupefied]

Have fun making believe but five games in ...So many good attackman .Teat is wondrous but would not have been on first team if I were to make a list and that is no being disrespectful or underrating him or his impact , just that talent runs so deep at attack as shown by no mention of the Lulleys, Holdens , Carraways etc. Moore is one that remains underrated imho. Like Teat, he's surrounded by other talent that may suppress . Sowers would be my only shoo in after five games though Gray is much better than I ever imagined and Ament is terrific . Fletcher and Adler? Seriously big red . promote Piatelli Guess Anderson somewhere but Cook eh. Good to see Hannah recognized . Interesting no Aiken or Constabile , try covering them . Problably choose Curry out of Cuse trio since he gusually ets pole. Reps get regurgitated at close despite what I see, my list be quite different .Conners would be choice at lsm especially since my 2nd lsm was playing close at season start. Ierlan was still king but position was getting more competitive. Lot of good goalies as well though some good ones had struggles, fluctuations would have been be smoothed out over course of season.

[ABClaxfan]

I really think Trimboli is being overlooked here. All three first line midfielders at Syracuse were studs this year, but Trimboli made an impact all over the field in every game. Looking at the stats, he was second on the team in points only behind Scanlan, he had the best shooting percentage out of all the first line midfielders, and only had 1 turnover. I think he should be considered a first teamer

[Farfromgeneva]

The Hobart game had me believing Djordevic was an aa as the preseason hype had him.

[calourie]

Matt Gaudet was going to score 75+ goals this year. One of the best inside finishers the college sport has ever had. Steve Mock of Cornell with the same skillset was a 3rd team USILA AA in 2013 with 50 or so. A compilation of Gaudet's highlights would be invaluable in showing future attackmen how the game should be played around the crease.

[RedIvy]

Have fun making believe but five games in ...So many good attackman .Teat is wondrous but would not have been on first team if I were to make a list and that is no being disrespectful or underrating him or his impact , just that talent runs so deep at attack as shown by no mention of the Lulleys, Holdens , Carraways etc. Moore is one that remains underrated imho. Like Teat, he's surrounded by other talent that may suppress . Sowers would be my only shoo in after five games though Gray is much better than I ever imagined and Ament is terrific . Fletcher and Adler? Seriously big red . promote Piatelli Guess Anderson somewhere but Cook eh. Good to see Hannah recognized . Interesting no Aiken or Constabile , try covering them . Problably choose Curry out of Cuse trio since he gusually ets pole. Reps get regurgitated at close despite what I see, my list be quite different .Conners would be choice at lsm especially since my 2nd lsm was playing close at season start. Ierlan was still king but position was getting more competitive. Lot of good goalies as well though some good ones had struggles, fluctuations would have been be smoothed out over course of season.

I agree that Adler and Fletcher are good but surprised to see them listed on this. Adler May very well prove he deserves this but not at this point. Fletcher is very good too but I couldn’t put him here on his body of work through the 5 games played this season.

Long and Piatelli are also very good and Teat is a big reason for their success, Teat has learned that he can’t do it all and has adapted for the good of the team and the team is stronger. Teat was the engineer behind Cornell’s offense in his sophomore, junior and the 5 games of his senior year but has adapted to enable his teammates more. His accomplishments this year are the sum of the Big Red Offense and the evolution he created. In IMO that is well deserving of first team AA.

[faircornell]

While I have no inside knowledge, my guess is that when you are the high scorer on the Canadian National Team as a college Sophomore that degrees of AA become less important.

My guess is that Teat was trying to get his team to Memorial Day weekend. That is a bigger goal and a more elusive one. Had he done that the honors would have followed.

[jrn19]

While I have no inside knowledge, my guess is that when you are the high scorer on the Canadian National Team as a college Sophomore that degrees of AA become less important.

My guess is that Teat was trying to get his team to Memorial Day weekend. That is a bigger goal and a more elusive one. Had he done that the honors would have followed.

Literally all these guys were trying to get their guys to Memorial Day weekend. They all wanna win. Teat is a fabulous player, but this narrative amongst Cornell fans that he and he alone was so benevolent and cared so much about winning in a way no one else ever has and therefore he wasn't as productive is silly. Teat was 11th in PPG last year, well behind Ament, Sowers, Spencer, etc. I'm presuming he was just as focused on trying to get to Memorial Day weekend last year and Cornell....missed the tournament.

Sowers, Ament, Gray, Wisnauskas, and on and on all care about winning and getting to MDW. Teat was not any less productive because he cared about winning more. Dude is awesome and if you want to argue him for 1st Team AA, that's awesome. But let's calm down with the hagiography. There are other amazing players too.

[WildPride]

A Sowers, Princeton
A Gray, North Carolina
A Ament, Penn State

M Cook, North Carolina
M Hannah, Denver
M Kirst, Villanova

D Kennedy, Villanova
D Adler, Cornell
D Eddy, Boston

SSDM Dearth, Syracuse

LSM McNulty, Loyola

FO Ierlan, Yale

G McElroy, Georgetown

Nice to see Kirst and Kennedy getting some recognition. Well deserved.

[RedIvy]

While I have no inside knowledge, my guess is that when you are the high scorer on the Canadian National Team as a college Sophomore that degrees of AA become less important.

My guess is that Teat was trying to get his team to Memorial Day weekend. That is a bigger goal and a more elusive one. Had he done that the honors would have followed.

Literally all these guys were trying to get their guys to Memorial Day weekend. They all wanna win. Teat is a fabulous player, but this narrative amongst Cornell fans that he and he alone was so benevolent and cared so much about winning in a way no one else ever has and therefore he wasn't as productive is silly. Teat was 11th in PPG last year, well behind Ament, Sowers, Spencer, etc. I'm presuming he was just as focused on trying to get to Memorial Day weekend last year and Cornell....missed the tournament.

Sowers, Ament, Gray, Wisnauskas, and on and on all care about winning and getting to MDW. Teat was not any less productive because he cared about winning more. Dude is awesome and if you want to argue him for 1st Team AA, that's awesome. But let's calm down with the hagiography. There are other amazing players too.

Clearly there is bias.... the observation being made is how he changed over the years from someone who tried to do it all to someone who enabled others, for those who watched him adjust (obviously primarily Cornell fans) it’s very clear. Agreed they are all trying to win but not all in the same way and he may have been more productive in points had he not adjusted. For Jeff Teat it’s not about his size, speed or athleticism (although all good), it’s about his cerebral approach to the game.

And no one said there aren’t other amazing players, however many would say Teat was worthy of first team, but to not list him as a top 9 is ridiculous IMO, which was the original point.